Mini 1995: The Absolute Worst Game Ever Run

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THE GAME LINK DIDNT EVEN LEAD TO HERE

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This was a terrible idea.

Varsoon, hold me '_'

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VOTE: Eldritch

LESSGOOOO

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No I refuse

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This is not the legacies of hydra that I had birthed.

In any case, who are you even voting

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Thoughts on just quicklynching one person each day until one of the two factions win?

Pedit: idfk what or who that is

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VOTE: TGP

i think I'll move here though

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A50s the oldest shouldn't he be the dad?

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The early burd gets teh wormz

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Are you suggesting multi ball?

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Ok

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Are you scum with me?

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Someone needs a time out

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By the way, is it a Marangalv2.0 accout?

It is!

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VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

I think I'm nice and cozy here

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Mmm i can drop by anenien as well. He could live to do more

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So like...

This is getting ridiculous

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Ehh, forget the 2nd why.

Instead, replace it with a why Anen in particular? There are plenty of people that could do more.

Well sure, we need to start somewhere right?

Start holding some people accountable for something and maybe people will start caring

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Retraching that: Red, how do you know that dead players will be allowed to post after death? It doesn't say anything about that in the opening?

It doesn't say they can't.
Do we even know town has majority?

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

I think I'm nice and cozy here

I understand I could do more, but TBH, nobody has really done much.
Also it doesn't say when you die you can't perform your abilities.

I agree! Maybe we should do something about that

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You literally have the bird doing fuck all and red flavor saying something is genuine with someone saying they are town

Huh
I agree with this.

While the entire game is like, fucking around and doing jack shit, Red is actually trying to play the actual game like an actual game and this is the first person NSG decides to scum read?

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I think he's town

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Retraching that: Red, how do you know that dead players will be allowed to post after death? It doesn't say anything about that in the opening?

Exactly

a lot of things aren't banned in the rules - from what mastina said i still assume we're not supposed to do them.

red's unvote and vote there are really bad, by the way.

I was talking about this. I guess it isn't a explicit scum read, but she's still deciding to attack someone who's actually trying to scum hunt, given he had developed a town read (presumably) on your slot

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Town can't make bad votes?

And sure, normally yes but Red was trying to actually do somrtjkng productive in the game when the rest of the world and their mommas was doing $#!@. It would be so easy to just let town continue doing what their doing.

The fact that he was trying when he clearly didn't have to rings more town than it does scum

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NSG thinks I'm a month old scummer.


LOL

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i don't.

So what's with the low key deflection of my (imo) a solid point with the "I once upon a time" thing?

Like I even agreed that its NAI but the circumstances of

THIS GAME

made me feel like it was an exception to the rule

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VOTE: eldritch
Dead people is allowed to speak so even if we lynch them
This game will bel like this still

This kinda felt like this was posted to gather dome kind of reaction

Red: meh vote; if dead players are allowed to talk does it really benefit you to lynch us? We'd become an 11 person Tree Stump at that point. No attempt to actually sort us; scum lean.

QFT

That really makes no sense, does it?

Good news, we're town

I feel like this post was genuine UNVOTE:

Kinda the same with this. This is what NSG is scum reading.

we are here, at least one head of us is here. I'll try to read the game thread, but I have a rather busy morning today. I'll try to get to it later today.

~cd

Where are you still?
VOTE: Infinitecanine

I also liked this

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Quite honestly it isnt the best content but its game content and outside of Varsoon saying "lets stop with this trolliness" he is actually one of the first people to actually move seriously. I see that as more town because its like they need to be the ones who needs to sort people and its pretty hard when no one is playing so making movements to try and make others play is a very pro-town move coming from a highly pro-town mindset

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Why won't you lynch Varsoon?

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Maybe its old memories but varsoon is being incredibly lack luster

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I also liked this

why? i really don't care for people voting lurkers to "get content out of them" or something when it's clear that that won't actually affect when they check the thread. if someone's active lurking like assemble or something? sure. in this case, after pretty much their first post in the thread? i see it as more lamist than anything else.

Quite honestly it isnt the best content but its game content and outside of Varsoon saying "lets stop with this trolliness" he is actually one of the first people to actually move seriously. I see that as more town because its like they need to be the ones who needs to sort people and its pretty hard when no one is playing so making movements to try and make others play is a very pro-town move coming from a highly pro-town mindset

it's literally effortless to do this as scum and i don't think it's the kind of thing that even comes from town more often than scum. so, i don't really see it as a towntell, and i don't think other people should either.

I mean, I don't know about million person but I know cool dog is around.


Also like, I'm still talking about this game and not in general.

Its still exception to the norm so yeah


Pedit: oh hey

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Mom was suspicious for her comment on the two factions thing.

I'm getting tired of hearing this I know you guys can do better

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Hmmm..

Hmmm...

I think I can buy the IC scum read, and IMO is actually A better lynch than superhydra who I think is town

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That we the purple stunt is clearly scum-ATE but I'm overlooking it because it very much warmed up my cold cold heart.

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I mean, I don't know about million person but I know cool dog is around.


Also like, I'm still talking about this game and not in general.

Its still exception to the norm so yeah


Pedit: oh hey

if you know that cooldog is around but not posting, what do you make of that?

what's your read on him now? you liked red's vote – what do you make of the most recent interaction with eldrich?

Bad pings overall and I would hope that he wasn't blatantly actively lurking. I do buy the fact that he's busy, but I take issue with the fact that he says lurkers=scum and is generally just pushing bad and fallacious arguments on a slot that's probably easy to lynch and make an argument against.

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VOTE: IC

Ohhhhh

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I mean, I don't know about million person but I know cool dog is around.


Also like, I'm still talking about this game and not in general.

Its still exception to the norm so yeah


Pedit: oh hey

if you know that cooldog is around but not posting, what do you make of that?

what's your read on him now? you liked red's vote – what do you make of the most recent interaction with eldrich?

Bad pings overall and I would hope that he wasn't blatantly actively lurking. I do buy the fact that he's busy, but I take issue with the fact that he says lurkers=scum and is generally just pushing bad and fallacious arguments on a slot that's probably easy to lynch and make an argument against.

These aren't reasons? You've been calling them scum the whole time. Not anti town but actually scum

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It really is a policy lynch, but I don't care.
I won't be able to play this game with them here.
Their existence makes for a bad game environment.

They've cooled it with the trolling lately. Havnt you noticed?

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IC is at L-2.

Who can I convince to join in on this wagon?

Ginngie?

I've been getting the impression that you're reasonable.

Vax maybe?

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Bastard games are when the cop isn't guaranteed to be sane, for instance. They might be insane (all results are opposite of what they should be), paranoid (all results are anti-town), naive (all results show as town), or random (very bastard).

Non-sane cop being bastard is news to me

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If I’m honest not design but

Like

Micolash


AAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Some say Kos, or some Kosm

Grant us eyes like you did for the Vacous Rom

I really like how varsoon is doing nothing but complaining about trolling and super hydra making it hard to play

Yet, he has yet to really play and all his posts has been mostly about bloodborne.

Like comeon

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I do not know where that came from

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I'm not but if you're gonna complain about game relevance and bot being able to read the thread due to the lack of it don't contribute

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On the topic of the game, lets go back to IC.

why is NM calling that wagon a bad wagon? I mean... I put some (admittedly weak) but valid points

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The two claimed loyal vigs?

Great job. Now what about IC

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And still, that hydra did produce some solid content but, for whatever reason, you seem to refuse to see it and, currently it does trump the content coming from your slot despite the fact that all they are doing is "trolling"

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Pedit: because...?

And if you say it developed to fast ill kill you right here right now

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I was just gonna say I'm not entirely convinced NSG cares enough about this game to solve it, but looking over the playerlist, she's basically the only one with a chance at solving this lategame.

I'm pretty hurt by this statement

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What is that LAMIST thing you keep saying

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I'm scumreading Varsoon and so is Marangal. Yet you think I'm town and she's scum. How does that add up?

NM isn't comfy with white knighters and that's what he thinks I'm doing.

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Also to make things perfectly clear, I'm lukewarm on Varsoon. I just want him to do more because I think he can do more. I'm tagging on varsoon more because I want him to deliver what he's asking others to do.

And it isn't like I'm not trying to engage with him myself

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Mudslinging?

Errmmmm

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In my mind its all been dino and NM.

also, I guess I can't make a joke about someone playing with my title to respond to me

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I still don't understand what LaAMIST means

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I'm sorry Gamma.

Or maybe Elli who I know of but not know intimately.

But I don't think you can be upset with me for deciding to not put more effort into who is posting what when knowing the heads won't aid or hinder my ability to read the slot to begin with

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You're not gonna believe this but...


I'm an energizer!

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You can't 1v1 when the other party isn't willing.

Besides, trying to kill me at night is futile.

Also, I'm someone you want to be keeping around for a few days at least

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I can't get shot period

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Yeah no shit I didn't die, I already said I couldn't get shot at.


I'm a hider, varsoon is cleared

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I said I was a wasted shot yesterday so why tf would you still shoot me and why is every one not thinking of ways of false positives may appear in this game its a gosdarnit Mastina game

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What confuses me is why Mom wouldn't just hide behind the loyal vig claims to confirm them as town?

I figured the vigs, if town were most likely going to get shot at by scum last night if only to reduce the chances that one if them hits them. Also the fact that being nearly universally town read made it likely that I would have a 50/50 chance of living. If they were also scum, I didn't mention them at all yesterday so if I hid behind them and died, no one would have thought that I would have hid behind them

i don't really believe the claim. that's the kind of thing that should definitely be explicitly claimed, especially given that you know you'll be either essentially guiltying yourself come tomorrow, or you'll be confirming the person you hid behind as scum.

did you crumb who you were going to hide behind, momrangal?

I focused on three people yesterday, and one of them I lock-towned more or less. Of the two I didn't, I focused on one explicitly more than I did the other. Based on that, it would be an easy assumption on who I hid behind, at least I hope it would have.


As far as why I Havnt claimed yesterday, I did claim that I couldn't get shot at during night. I had wanted to lay low and not claim because I didn't want to tip off mafia and potentially get 4 kills in the first night because of how easy it would have been to guess who I hid behind.

It wasn't until near deadline that I realized that I was slated to be shot at, which is why I soft-claimed something along hider, bp, or commuter. If I was mafia, the first thing that would come to mind up on seeing that is xshot BP or even just straight up bp based on what my team's roles were

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I mean, yeah I made a few one time mentions of other people bit if you Isoed me only a few names came up multiple times

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Aneninen
TheGoldenParadox
Momrangal
schadd_
Ginngie
mutantdevle
northsidegal
Vaxkiller
Varsoon
RedFlavor

Putting this here for my sake

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Ok so, assuming 10:3 we are most likely at 8:3. The vigs imo are gonna need to holster and not kill, or we risk loosing the game

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I'm a hider
Redflavor and TheGoldenParadox are loyal vigs

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VOTE: Vaxkiller

Shall we?


Also hiding behind one of those 4 (now 5) works because I was about to throw a list up of possible people I would hide behind.

I think it would be contingent on the fact that the vigs don't shoot because that could lose the game for us right there

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OH WAIT

that pool of 5 just shrunk to like, a pool of three erm.. That's a really small pool for two possible kills

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At this point I think its 50/50 anen and mutant?

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Well eerr I'm assuming Vax gets lynched here

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Vax
Anen
Mutant

Those are the wild cards left.

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Permanent V/LA on weekends but I hid behind mutant

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Hmmm

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Idk, if you holstered then that means red has to be telling the truth about his role but like, I feel like he's not really... I don't know. I'm inclined to believe that he is likely town based off what you just said and that his kill and the mafias kill is separate?

What I'm not understanding is that I basically had said that I was gonna hide between mutant and Anen, the only two that was left unclaimed. If they guessed correctly, they would have killed both me and mutant. Its lucky that they didn't because scum would have won if they did but its like I'm just left wondering why red didn't follow yesterday's plan

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Can some one remind me why anen is conftown?

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Oh right mmm....

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Uh

How would we know, she died last night.

Also, I hid behind mutant. If were treating Varsoon as town, then we need to be treating Mutant as town as well like... It just doesn't work like that.

Also food for thought, if mechanically the game is made to produce false positives why are we assuming that we aren't also getting false negatives?

I didn't like Aneniens entrance much

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I guess no one is gonna talk to me

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Uh

How would we know, she died last night.

Also, I hid behind mutant. If were treating Varsoon as town, then we need to be treating Mutant as town as well like... It just doesn't work like that.

Also food for thought, if mechanically the game is made to produce false positives why are we assuming that we aren't also getting false negatives?

I didn't like Aneniens entrance much

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If varsoon is cleared via me mutant must be cleared via me

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No if ends or butts about it.

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VOTE: Aneninen[/vote[

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VOTE: Aneninen

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Tbf, I think Varsoon is cleared more to do with his cop claim than your hider claim :3

His claim is gunsmith and Anen asked earlier if we were treating Varsoon as conf town and if he was he should be treated as town as well. Sure NSG flipped but like he's doing shit all and isn't even thinking about the way this game may be set up. I'm made a solid point on the fact that if there is false gulties being set up then false Innos must be in this scenario as well. In this position scum, especially "cleared" scum are going to be more confident now and will actively try to move the game into a state that's more beneficial for them. He is never going to get questioned now and that sets a dangerous precedent. He knows this and knows that he can get away with everything.

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And honestly I'm surprised no one is even thinking about how the last flip happened regardless of the fact that it makes sense that the scum team should have been thus. Every one is clearing and guiltyjng based on what happened vs how people are playing when its stated that this game is literally the worst game ever. That this game is set up so people would counter claim and when that happened, people would look at the role that wasn't duplicated.

Every one is acting like this game has already been solved even though we should already know that the mod will not make it that easy

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Agreed with miss suit and tie!

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I do feel bad for dropping this game off but by gods i do not appreciate the game throwing one bit. I don't understand why a townie would just up and claim scum like that

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I spent a bit of D1 not knowing who my partners was.

I even asked Mastina if i even get to know or if were all like traitors or summin