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Why was the clown sad? She broke her funny bone
Hey! That's my line! - The Ringleaders
so Maki is claiming Krusty, don't watch the show but that's a cool clownLast edited by Mathdino on Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:59 am, edited 1 time in total.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Did you hear about the human cannonball? He got fired!In post 39, StefanB wrote:Interesting that no one else really reacted to it. But one was interesting:
Most people don't really react to miller claims anymore. Most people believe proper play is to claim it in your opening post and it's mentioned on the wiki. The best thing to do is just ignore it and treat him like any other player since the miller claim is not verifiable (at least not by a cop)One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Did you hear about the circus fire? Yeah it was in tentsIn post 63, Wh4t wrote:Cedrick, I love the jokes but on rereading all your posts so far have been fluff. Bahumbug.
Why do you have a very high expectation of rvs posting?One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Did you hear about the circus clown’s funeral?In post 81, Wh4t wrote:I think this assumption is a bit of a stretch. Sure RVS posting starts out all fun and games however, we're now up to four pages of content which need to be analysed for anything remotely AI. If you believe that all RVS content is not AI, then it would logically follow that games would never leave the RVS phase.
They all came in one car.
No it’s not a stretch because he voted me for my rvs posts. Not only that he misrepresented my posts.
First, During RVS it’s perfectly acceptable to make fluff posts.
Second, he said ALL my posts were fluff. One, was fluff (my rvs post). Two, was game related (putting a name to the clown maki couldn’t remember for some reason) and Third, explaining to Stefan why I thought nobody reacted to the Miller claim, which is what he was questioning at the time.
All 3 were on at the end of page 1/2 which is typically rvs time period, not on page 4 like you are referencing.
So not only is his description about my posts false, he DOES have an unrealistic expectation of what kind of posts people have to make on page 2.
66.66666666% of my posts were non fluff. 33.33333333% of them were fluff (my intro post)
And somehow he has a big enough issue with it that it’s vote worthy.
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How do you kill a circus clown?In post 85, Wh4t wrote:Gamma, skimming over your past games I see that you get scum read quite frequently as town. Why do you think that is?
Pedit Cedrick, you've proved 1 of your posts are non-fluff and I'm not even entirely convinced that set-up spec should qualify as something game-progressing, but I'll be generous. Naming a clown absolutely does not count as AI content. Apologies if you feel I've misrepped you. I'm feeling your response is genuine.
Go for the juggler.
I never said it had to be AI. But it wasn’t fluff. My statement still holds true. Your expectation of posts in rvs is unrealistic. Not every player is going through serious post every time they post. I certainly am not. Now I do have to limit my more useless posts due to the rules, there is still going to be posts I make that aren’t always going to be game advancing as will others and you know what? That’s ok.
Even now, there isn’t much to go off of. I’d say the scummiest person so far is you for your unrealistic expectation but having a different opinion isn’t AI. I don’t really see much to comment on atm but I haven’t been reading very intently. I’m in an altered mental state atm so I’m not prepared to do in-depth shit right now.
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Haven’t seen anything worth weighing in on yet.In post 87, Raskolnikov wrote:wait a second, why is no one weighing in on beefsterOne thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Why did the elephant leave the circus? He was tired of working for peanuts.In post 93, Archwing wrote:This is bad.
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What do you call a woman falling in love with a carnie? Juggle FeverIn post 98, Archwing wrote:Chronological progression:
Someone claims Miller
People talk about it
Someone refs wiki which states optimal play
Beefster says claiming Miller was bad
And now there is nothing worth weighing in on?
I said I was gonna lie low but fuck sakes.
Not that it matters, I don’t recal anyone saying it’s optimal play to do that.
What’s wrong with two people having a different opinion? Beefster not sharing somebody else’s opinion doesn’t mean they are scummy for it.
I’m more interested in you saying you were going to intentionally lay low. My opinion of you of a player has dropped because it’s never acceptable to lay low. It’s actually pretty scummy.
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Why did the one legged clown leave the cheese circus? Because he couldn't get his stilton.In post 105, Archwing wrote:If that's the case why did you wait until now to vote?
Why did I wait until you admitted you were intentionally laying low to vote you for intentionally laying low?
Because I didn’t know it was intentional until you just admitted it.
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How is being at the singles bar different from going to the circus? At the circus the clowns don't talk.In post 105, Archwing wrote:btw... you were the one who referenced the wiki. lmao.
You are right. I did. Now show me where I said it was optimal play.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Girls say they want a guy who is funny and spontaneous but when I tap on the window at night dressed as a clown it's all screaming.In post 106, Wh4t wrote:I don't even have words to express myself right now.
You think you proved something but you didn’t. I’d probably keep my mouth shut also if I were you.
No where did i say it was optimal play to do that. I personally think it’s best not the claim at all and just play the game. If you don’t act scummy you won’t ever have to worry being investigated.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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I manufactured clown shoes.....which was no small feat.In post 112, Archwing wrote:you said it was proper, and you said it was referenced on the wiki. seems pretty fuckin legit to me dude
I urge you to reread my post again. You are definitely misinterpreting it and putting words into my mouth.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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What is the gooey red stuff between an elephant's toes? Slow clownsIn post 116, Archwing wrote:yeah, fine, you didn't use the word optimal. but what i said in 112, which LITERALLY USES THE WORDS YOU SAID, "proper" and referencing wiki, one could easily read that as optimal, or something of that nature.
I also said “most people believe” and I mentioned the wiki cause I’ve seen games where people have claimed miller specifically because it says so in the wiki.
It’s all relevant.
I never said that was proper play, because I don’t think it is but it is becoming common play in my limited experience. I think I’ve playex 5-10 games with a miller. Been miller once.
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What time did the man go to the dentist? Tooth hurt-y."In post 125, Raskolnikov wrote:everyone's fighting each other, but atm I'd like reads on the table from people who haven't put weighed in so much atm before narrowing focus too hard.
What kind of reads do you expect people to have this early?
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Did you hear about the guy who invented Lifesavers? They say he made a mint.In post 142, Raskolnikov wrote:Maki I'm 60% sure beef was rolefishing me can you vote with me.
I’m surprised you went that route. I was like 80% sure he thought you were softing Ronald and he was cc’ing you.
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A ham sandwich walks into a bar and orders a beer. Bartender says, 'Sorry we don't serve food here.'"In post 154, Raskolnikov wrote:
Can you be more specificIn post 130, Cedrick wrote:Some people are way too eager and it feels fake.
Sure. Wh4 has an unrealistic expectation of what posts on page 1/2 should look like and votes somebody for fluff posting. That looks to eager to me.
You are expecting people to have a bunch of reads on page 5. That is also unrealistic to me and seems eager.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Whenever the cashier at the grocery store asks my dad if he would like the milk in a bag he replies, 'No, just leave it in the carton!'In post 179, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't get this joke at all. What's a carnie? Please explain.In post 104, Cedrick wrote:What do you call a woman falling in love with a carnie? Juggle Fever
Carnie is a carnival worker. A juggler would be somebody who may work at a carnival
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Why do chicken coops only have two doors? Because if they had four, they would be chicken sedans
I am not sure what I have done to make you think I am conf.biased.In post 187, Wh4t wrote:I moved my vote to Cedrick to get a reaction and I'm growing more convinced that he is heavily confirmation biased town. So I can agree with that read too.
I said it feels fake. It is too try hard too early. People on this site tend to town read people who get the game out of rvs, and more and more scum have been trying to use that to their advantage. To me your aggression seemed unnatural. If it isn't, then don't worry about my opinion so much.In post 190, Wh4t wrote:How is any of this fake though? I feel like you're shutting me down for scum hunting. Since when is there such a thing as "too early for scum hunting?"
You also neglect to mention others who are sorting from the start. I suppose my playstyle rubs you the wrong way, and the feeling is mutual, but it doesn't make either of us scum.
I do and I am waiting to see how it plays out especially now since somebody has spoken out about it.In post 191, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Do you not find suspicious the fact that Raskol scumreads Beefster for asking about Ronald Mcdonald but turns a blind eye to Stefan (coincidentally, a scumread of mine too) who blatantly rolefishes for both flavour and role?
It's like yelling at the person who just farted in the room but completely ignoring that hobo taking a poop on the floor.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Why did the Clydesdale give the pony a glass of water? Because he was a little horse!"In post 220, Gamma Emerald wrote:No? Proper cop play is not to investigate scummy people. If you cop the days lynch guess what? You either have to claim your inno or you wasted an invest because your guilty got lynched anyway. The goal of a cop imo is to sort people who probably won't get sorted otherwise.
people have different opinions of proper cop play, but in my opinion the one most beneficial is to investigate null reads actually. So if you come in to the game and are active and actively scum hunting, you shouldn't worry about about it. If somebody still claims a guilty on you, you let your body of work speak for itself. Basically don't put yourself in the position to be investigated. put yourself in the position to be NKd.
Nobody is going to lynch a miller claim and scum isn't going to kill one. I don't want a miller in lylo personally.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Why do cows have hooves and not feet? Because they lack toes (lactose)In post 449, brassherald wrote:Cedrick's play has dropped a little bit, I haven't seen attempts to game solve so much since my last post, just theory discussion and responses.
Just pointing out I’ve only made one post since your last post and that was to announce I was going to be v/la
Unfortunately I’ve been to busy to focus on this game so I haven’t even posted. It’s across all my games actually.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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I told my wife that it was her turn to shovel and salt the front steps. All I got was icy stares.
Only skimmed the last couple of pages but I find myself agreeing with arch and gamma about Kiana. I honestly have no clue what’s happened the last 10+ pages or whatever though but for now
VOTE: Kiana
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What did the blind man say when he ran into a poll?In post 517, Wh4t wrote:I feel Cedrick, as town, has no business coming in and dropping a vote on an escalating wagon when he hasn't yet caught up in the thread. It feels very opportunistic and wreckless at best, to vote without all the information when VLA on a wagon that could potentially go through before his return. I see no natural progression on his Kiana vote, or of his town reads of Gamma/Arch to dignify sheeping them so confidently.
Didn't see that coming
The thing is you don’t know anything about me so you can’t speak intelligently about what I would or wouldn’t do as town. Part of this game is convincing others to lynch somebody. I felt the few posts that they posted sounded good though me. It’s definitely good for some pressure. If the wagon went through while I was away, it wouldn’t be my fault singulary. I also know I’m able to check the thread throughout the day. I’m just trying not to focus all my time on mafia when I have better things to be focusing on. If you want to scum read me for my vote that’s fine. You haven’t been a town read of mine all game so the feeling would definitely be mutual.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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What's the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts?In post 539, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Bujaber raises good points against Cedrick but according to the points its more likely that Cedrick is playing poorly rather than scum. However the fact that he feels that the post is the "biggest shock" is exactly what I felt. Pretty good read here and so I'm giving Bujaber some townpoints for 528.
Beer nuts are a $1.39, and deer nuts are under a buck.
I wouldn’t say I’m playing poorly but I’m not playing my best game. I’m just not as into this one as I am my others. I’ll try to get motivated again next week. I am really stressed out irl.
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Until I can get caught up.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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I had a dream that I was a muffler last night. I woke up exhausted!"
Wh4. Anytime you want explain this weird read you have on me go right ahead. You came in with some weird obsession. You backed off when I made you look bad and now it’s back.
Tunneling me is hazardous to your health, especially when you don’t have any reason to. You’ve been obsessed with me and it’s super scummy.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. It's impossible to put down!
I wasn’t around to sort anyone. You are using me being busy against me. That’s scummy. If I was posting and not sorting you’d have a point but I wasn’t. Over 200 posts were made between my last game post and when I declared v/la. If you were town paying attention you’d have noticed that. Or you’d have noticed that when I corrected brass. The fact you ignored that and just said what you said is super scummy. Intentionally manipulating my absence.
My vote on Kiana wasn’t opportunistic either. People were making some very good posts about her and I found myself agreeing with them. You then tried to use my v/la against me which is a very shitty thing to do again.
The funny thing is you have 2 sets of 2 scum teams (Kiana being one of them) and you think I make sense with both pairs? Gtfoh.
I have been gone and missed a lot and even I have a more narrowed list of scum reads than you do. You scum read almost half the player list.
So your reasons for suspecting me are crap and very manipulative. If you do happen to be town please learn this one lesson going forward.
When a person is gone for a big portion of the game, odds are he was just busy and not scum.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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You're American when you go into the bathroom, and you're American when you come out, but do you know what you are while you're in there? European.In post 632, Raskolnikov wrote:He's kept a scumread on you but idk if I'd call it tunneling or obsession when he's talked about other people way the same or more.
No he called me town after I schooled his scummy ass.
I get busy with work and he uses that to smear my name again. Calls my vote reckless or opportunistic when they were neither of those things.In post 187, Wh4t wrote:I moved my vote to Cedrick to get a reaction and I'm growing more convinced that he is heavily confirmation biased town. So I can agree with that read too.
Like he really was implying that if kian got lynched when i was on v/la it would somehow be my responsibility. What kind of BS is that?
He thinks he’s a cool kid but he’s really a bully. Attacking people who he thinks are easy targets. He’ll get his eventually.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Did you hear about the guy who invented Lifesavers? They say he made a mint.In post 517, Wh4t wrote:It feels very opportunistic and wreckless at best, to vote without all the information when VLA on a wagon that could potentially go through before his return.
With 11 days left in the game why are you worried about a lynch happening on somebody YOU scum read?
With 11 days left in the game do you honestly think a speed wagon and lynch are going to happen?
Even if it did, since it’s on your scum read, why would that be a bad thing?
Why would I be considered the reckless one instead of whoever joined after and actually speed lynched them?
Your thought process isn’t town. Hasn’t been from the beginning. I’m sorry you rolled scum. I’m even more sorry you played your hand wrong.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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If you see a robbery at an Apple Store does that make you an iWitness?In post 635, Wh4t wrote:You're not proving me wrong by continuing to defend yourself. That's awesome that you're reading a book about anti-gravity however don't be surprised if you're VLA and yet have time to read the game, place reckless votes; but you don't have time to give reads/thoughts.
Please learn to see others' perspectives before handing out lessons yourself.
Omg that was a joke dude. You haven’t picked up on that yet? Oh wait you should cause multiple people have mentioned my jokes.
My vote wasn’t reckless. Just cause you say it is doesn’t make it so. Maybe YOU should learn to see others perspectives. I know for damn sure if I saw somebody vote somebody I was scum reading I would be happy. I wouldn’t cast shade on them. Are you scum with kian?
How can you say I’m not giving reads or thoughts when I gave thoughts and a read when I placed my vote? Dude cmon bro.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Spring is here! I got so excited I wet my plants!In post 638, Raskolnikov wrote:
Eeeeeh I think it would be at least partially tbh, though responsibility is a bit of loaded when kiana's probscum anyways...In post 634, Cedrick wrote:Like he really was implying that if kian got lynched when i was on v/la it would somehow be my responsibility. What kind of BS is that?
Yeah I would be 1/7th responsible. He was implying my responsibility would be way greater than that and he scum read him so that isn’t even a natural progression of thoughts.
“Damn, he just voted somebody I’m scum reading. If they get lynched I’m blaming him cause he put them to l-3”
Like what?
The way to find scum is to pressure people. L-3 is doing just that.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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What’s Forrest Gump’s password? 1forrest1In post 640, Raskolnikov wrote:Cedrick need your thoughts on arch vs kiana ATM way more than anything else.
I’m suspicious of Kiana over arch. I don’t really like how she was trying to pocket me early on and I felt the posts made before I voted here were enough that she should get another vote on her.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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I bought some shoes from a drug dealer. I don't know what he laced them with, but I was tripping all day!
My next vote will probably be on wht4. His scum read on kian was clearly fake. I can’t tell if it’s buddy or not so his flip teaches me more. Plus if he’s actually town it’s no big loss for us since he’s not playing very good.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Why did the invisible man turn down the job offer? He couldn't see himself doing it.
I can handle being scum read if you actually had reasons. You started with saying my posts were fluff when 1 was. You backed off.
Later you noticed I wasn’t posting and then declared v/la and said because I’m not sorting others I’m scummy. Well hello McFly. If im not posting at all clearly I’m not sorting. Im not even playing. Being busy or absent from the game isn’t AI. If I was active lurking that’d be one thing but I wasn’t even doing that.
You say I made a horribly opportunistic vote on somebody. I’m sorry but l-3 isn’t opportunistic. That’s a classic pressure vote. You want to know why? Because it just officially became a wagon. When greater than 50% of the required votes are placed, it’s an official wagon.
But wait. How on earth are you lecturing me on opportunistic voting? You placed arch at l-2 earlier in the game while going back and forth on if you wanted to actually scum or town read him. You gave absolutely no reason for it and you even apologized to him for it. I at least gave a reason for my vote and I certainly didn’t apologize.
I vote to lynch the Hypocrite
VOTE: wht4
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A three-legged dog walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "I’m looking for the man who shot my paw."In post 692, Beefster wrote:
This looks like backpedaling.In post 663, Wh4t wrote:VOTE: Beefster
I've changed my mind about wanting to end the day early. I think this is an avenue worth persuing. Rask will be happy.
That’s twice now where he has backed off voting arch. I am not sure why he keeps avoiding running up arch.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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When you ask a dad if he's alright: "No, I’m half left.”In post 690, BuJaber wrote:Wooow at that reaction from cedrick. That is a sudden change in tone and style. It reeks of scum implosion.
No it doesn’t actually. Once you realize he 1. Keeps flip flopping on me for horrible reasons 2. Being very manipulative. Wht4 comes out looking like scum.
His refusal to run arch up is kind of interesting to me. If arch flips scum I’m pretty sure wht4 is his buddy.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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GROCERY STORE CHECKER: "Paper or plastic?" DAD: "Either, I’m bisacktual.”In post 676, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
You don't like me townreading you? Why?In post 644, Cedrick wrote:I’m suspicious of Kiana over arch. I don’t really like how she was trying to pocket me early on and I felt the posts made before I voted here were enough that she should get another vote on her.
What exactly would be the purpose of pocketing you. Are you so good a player to believe yourself to be a pocketing target?
I didn’t feel your town read on me was genuine. I didn’t think I had done anything to be townread. I expected people to scum read me not the other way around.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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How do you tell the difference between a frog and a horny toad? A frog says, "Ribbit, ribbit" and a horny toad says, "Rub it, rub it.”In post 701, Kiana Kaslana wrote:If wh4t is Archwing's buddy, then why would he opportunistically vote for Archwing?
Good point. I’m not sure if they are scum together. But regardless his vote could be perceived as opportunistic. If he’s scum and arch isn’t then it definitely is and he’s a hypocrite. If he’s bussing but trying to appear town, it still appears opportunistic and he still looks like a hypocrite.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Did you hear the news? FedEx and UPS are merging. They’re going to go by the name Fed-Up from now on.In post 703, Kiana Kaslana wrote:I don't get this joke either.
In western movies “paw” is daddy. It’s cliche in westerns for the son to try and avenge their fathers death. Confrontations usually taking place in bars or saloons
Paw is also a dog’s foot.
The muffler joke. Muffler is part of the exhaust system of a car.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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5/4 of people admit that they’re bad with fractions.In post 705, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Is hypocrisy necessarily a scum trait? I usually see it coming from town.
It is when he’s guilty of the same thing he’s using against me. He can’t scumread opportunistic behavior if he’s guilty of it also.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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What is Beethoven’s favorite fruit? A ba-na-na-na.In post 711, Beefster wrote:
Just to be clear, I do not think Arch is town. I just think the momentum on his wagon is a bit troubling.In post 697, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
Are you townreading Arch? Why?In post 691, Beefster wrote:
The arch wagon is good, but it's troubling that it snowballed so quickly. There is probably scum on this wagon.In post 656, Raskolnikov wrote:Stance on arch and kiana wagons, if you will.
Kiana wagon was an overreaction. Probably scum on this wagon- moreso than Arch.
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Two guys walk into a bar, the third one ducks.In post 715, Kokichi Oma wrote:But you're voting w4at already. So what leads you to believe arch is town, since your basis relys on him flipping town.
My vote on wht4 has nothing to do with my read on arch. I’ve been suspicious of wht4 for most of the game.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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What do you call a cow with two legs? Lean beef. If the cow has no legs, then it’s ground beef.
This isn’t true.In post 744, Wh4t wrote:he's admitted that he's reading the game
That’s really crappy thing to do. V/la should be used for legitimate reasons only. It should not be abused as scum.In post 744, Wh4t wrote:As scum I use VLA as an excuse for lurking particularly Day 1
Well I’m not reading the game and I probably shouldn’t be here defending myself from scum but I am. Weren’t you lecturing me on seeing others perspectives? This is now at least twice where you haven’t done that. Just cause I’m not doing something you would do, doesn’t mean that somebody else wouldn’t.In post 744, Wh4t wrote:it doesn't make sense to me that he's VLA and yet has time to read the game/make time consuming defensive arguments
Lord knows I’d never intentionally lie about being v/la as scum to get an advantage.
Even if I was caught up you wouldn’t get that from me. I am not a fan of list reads.In post 744, Wh4t wrote:doesn't have time to give even a simple readslist so we can see where he's at
Well here ya go. You have 4 reads from me. 2 scum reads and 2 town reads. Why do you need anymore? I didn’t accuse you of bullying for asking for reads so that’s a very scummy misrep. I called you a bully cause you attacked me early for my rvs posts which were perfectly fine and again cause I voted “opportunistically” according to you which I disagree with and is hilarious coming from you since you’ve done it twice now.In post 744, Wh4t wrote:All I've assumed is that he thinks Kiana and I are scum and he town reads Arch/Gamma, apparently asking for more is bullying.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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What do you get when you cross an elephant with a rhino? Elephino.In post 752, Gamma Emerald wrote:btw do you play Ace Attorney?
Never heard of it so no.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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In post 756, Wh4t wrote:Cedrick could you provide a readslist for clarity please?
How many tickles does it take to make an octopus laugh? Ten-tickles.In post 751, Cedrick wrote:Even if I was caught up you wouldn’t get that from me. I am not a fan of list reads.
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I’m only familiar with 25 letters in the English language. I don’t know why.
Gamma and arch made a few posts about Kiana that I liked enough it motivated me to vote.
I don’t even know if I fully town read gamma or arch, but based on the fall out and reactions I feel they are more likely town than Kiana and you.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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What do prisoners use to call each other? Cell phones.
Your vote on me is weak as is your reasons. If you aren’t scum you could stand to try harder and do better.
Wht4 is scum. He’s completely misrepresented everything about me and you think me getting mad is scummy?
If somebody completely misrepresented everything about you would you ignore it? Doubt it. Maybe if i was scum I’d ignore it and hope nobody noticed but there is no town motivation to allow somebody to lie about you.
That’s cool though. I’ll just vig him tonight.
VOTE: kiana
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What do you call a factory that sells passable products? A satisfactory.In post 789, BuJaber wrote:
Where is he lying about you? This is what I don't get. You're not saying he's wrong. You're saying he's lying.In post 787, Cedrick wrote:What do prisoners use to call each other? Cell phones.
Your vote on me is weak as is your reasons. If you aren’t scum you could stand to try harder and do better.
Wht4 is scum. He’s completely misrepresented everything about me and you think me getting mad is scummy?
If somebody completely misrepresented everything about you would you ignore it? Doubt it. Maybe if i was scum I’d ignore it and hope nobody noticed but there is no town motivation to allow somebody to lie about you.
That’s cool though. I’ll just vig him tonight.
VOTE: kiana
Since nobody wants to lynch wht4
I’ve already addressed them all. That post I made that you took issue with for starters. Don’t play dumb. Pretty much read the posts I’ve made about him and you’ll see them.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Did you hear about the kidnapping at school? It's fine, he woke up.In post 788, Hiraki wrote:Oh lordie, could this be the most obvious game of mafia I've ever played?
Can someone read Bu's post and see what's wrong with it for town points? This is a teaching moment! Don't give them help Koki!
Well for starters once wht4 started lying more about me he started town reading him so that's a red flag. I find it hard to believe Bu would actually think i am scummy for defending myself. Why would I react like that if i were scum? I was off most people's radar.
fence sitting on rask
thinks koki is probably scum but doesn't really want to pressure or lynch it until other people lynch which doesn't really look like a town mindset to me.
says kaito's lurking is only AI depending on how certain wagons pan out which is false and scummy.
@ Bu, since you would rather ask me instead of reading the posts I have already made. Here are lies/misreps that Wht4 has said about me.
1. my 3 early posts were all fluff - rvs and 2 game related posts
2. claims my vote on Kai was opportunistic - This depends on your definition obviously, personally i felt like I made a good pressuring vote. It's not like i put a person to L2 or L1 even without any real reasons like he did. THOSE are opportunistic imo
3. claims my vote on kai was reckless - This isn't even a definition thing, this is just flat out wrong
4. Claims I used AtE in post 634 - he will claim this is a difference in definition but I didn't use AtE at all, what is said is the truth and it's part of the reason why I scum read him. he is trying to intentionally misrep and manipulate my actions
5. says I was actively lurking - In no way was I active lurking what so ever
6. says i am throwing defensive fits - Defending myself from lies and misreps is not and never will be considered a Defensive fit.
7. he says I admitted to reading the game - I never said I have read the game, i have never said I am even caught up.
there could be more, but that is plenty enough for me to think he is scum, and anyone who comes to his defense is guilty by association imo. there is no excuse for any of that shit. I don't see why any townie would blatantly lie and misrep me like that so I don't think he is a townie.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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Apparently you can’t use “beef stew” as a password.
It’s not stroganoff.
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1. 2 of my posts were game related. I don't care what definition he has, game related posts are never fluff.
2. oh so we going back to this one? fine. note I said "MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE PROPER PLAY", I never said or even implied I thought that way. Things on the Wiki are things for the most part generally accepted by the mafiascum community or it would have been removed.
3. Well technically, i went v/la and then voted. That isn't reckless especially it was on a weekend when activity is usually less than active and we had PLENTY of time left in the game and he still needed 3 more people to vote. historically on this site you don't see very many flash wagons like that so there was zero risk of my vote causing some catastrophic chain of events.
4. I pretty much disagree with all of this
5. sorry you are incorrect. It doesn't matter what happens after I place my vote, once 7 votes are cast the responsibility of the lynch is equally distributed between the 7 on the wagon.
6. Not sure why you brought up this one. this wasn't in my list of lies and misreps wht4 did. I don't disagree that 646 is clearly coming from my perspective, since I was the one posting it.
7. Thank you
8. I say things and do the opposite all the time. so yes i know hypocrisy isn't necessarily an aligment trait but it also depends how it's used. If somebody says they are scum for doing a certain thing, but the accuser has done that same thing twice. they don't have the right to make an accusation like that and is is what happened here. He was opportunistic multiple times so him scum reading me for the same doesn't make sense if he is town. Opportunistic becomes null in this situation.
9. Thank you. I am half tempted to go find all his scum games and look for those and report them but i won't.
10. I don't even have any full blown town reads tbh. What I do have is a brain and eyes. I saw some posts made about another player and I found myself agreeing with them and wanted to pressure that person. That's how I scum hunt, I like to see reactions to votes. Since he was town reading me I wanted to see specifically how he'd react to me voting him. Never thought that somebody would come in and chainsaw defend them like wht4 did. (and yes that is exactly what I think wht4 did which is scummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy as fuck to me)
if we have a vig, hopefully they shoot wht4 tonight.One thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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My dad always told me “don’t be quick to find faults”...In post 810, Maki Harukawa wrote:Posts like this always come from scum
Good man, terrible geologist.
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What days are the strongest? Saturday and Sunday, the rest are week days.In post 817, Hiraki wrote:In fact I said that Cedrick missed the main point too
So great job on your conjecture, it was completely wrong and if you actually read the game like I've asked you to do multiple times, you would've realized that
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Why is 6 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.In post 859, Gamma Emerald wrote:What's striking me about Hiraki is I think he also criticized your system but he's also doing the "anyone who disagrees is scum" thing.
And that’s scummy why? If anything that’s townie.
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Correct punctuation: the difference between a sentence that's well-written and a sentence that's, well, written.In post 865, Kiana Kaslana wrote:You are 100% borrowing other's opinion when you only "agree" with what "other people" have mentioned that I am "scummy". Unfortunately I am reading those "other people" as scum, so are you content with copying the opinions of scum or are you part of them trying to get a mislynch.
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Did you hear about the restaurant on the moon? Great food, no atmosphere.In post 917, Kokichi Oma wrote:Holy crap. How is Hikari on L2. Am I missing something?
No idea but looks like a scum push wagon to me. Counter wagon to KianaOne thing about life, you going to lose more than you going to win, but are you going to get up?-
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