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Post Post #105 (isolation #0) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:47 am

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Yoo! :]

VOTE: profii 99% justifications 1% playing gimme a read or something
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Post Post #106 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:54 am

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In post 15, Chickadee wrote:
In post 9, vonflare wrote:with 13 players the game could be lylo in at most 6 game-days

that's 5 RL days per game day, however night phases can be up to 48 hours and I assume scum would drag that out as long as possible so if we don't consistently lynch scum we only have 72 hours per day phase if we budget for 3p lylo

I don't see this going well. we could quicklynch day 1 and use the saved time towards having longer later days? We could let the game play out normally and then if the game goes late we just speedlynch every day? We definitely need to budget our time well in the earlygame, though.
I like everything about this post.

I'd say for D1 we quick lynch, but let everyone check in and lynch someone that would give us a decent amount of info. Let's aim for no more than like 72 hours.


Pedit: @Lovebird - we should still b budgeting our time.
I like this I've been thinking a lot about it

I feel like it benefits town to work with superficial day phase maximums like 96 hrs for example

Realistically some days will probably be quicker than others and some would probably push past this but if we work around 96 hrs at least we're ridiculously unlikely to run out of time
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Post Post #110 (isolation #2) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:24 am

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I like your thinking.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #3) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 54, Chickadee wrote:I'm with you Bins. I just want to give everyone a chance to check in first.
In post 104, profii wrote:I feel like a QL is the way to go. Eating out with Mrs Profii but will vote towards someone resistant to this plan soon

As I think Bins said, day 1 accuracy is bad. Let's get some info and move in that direction.
Out of Chickadee and profii?

Gut is telling me profii
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Post Post #114 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:32 am

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Chick is like a nully scummy vibe but I'm a paranoid noob so for me to vibe that D1 she'll probably end up town :lol:
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Post Post #120 (isolation #5) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:14 am

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I saw Chick, good thinking. I'm thinking like an ongoing thing though not just D1
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Post Post #127 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 am

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P sure you're scum because you're talking in circles and seem more interested in gamestate than other playsrs but ok
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Post Post #128 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 am

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And this is in 4 posts :P
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Post Post #130 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:14 am

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Humour me my friend, who's scummy so far?
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Post Post #131 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:14 am

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I'm liking the other bird
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Post Post #133 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:30 am

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NKA with minimal discussion? :lol:
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Post Post #134 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:31 am

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So you want to waste a lynch and throw D2 to circular WIFOM nonsense? Fabuloussss
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Post Post #136 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:36 am

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But how do you VCA a QL?

Can you link me to any scum games of yours our of interest? I need to check myself here
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Post Post #139 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:40 am

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Ouch sorry to hear it

I seem to replace into scumread scum slots a lot, it's a bad feel.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:40 pm

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In post 145, Momrangal wrote:Hmm I like the duck. I like the duck very much.

Can I trust the duck this game?
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Post Post #149 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:51 pm

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In post 147, Lovebird wrote:
In post 131, the worst wrote:I'm liking the other bird
I love it when other birds are in my games.

Quack.
Same here. :]

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Post Post #152 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:28 pm

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I agree

Keen to hear your thoughts on pg 2-7
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Post Post #156 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:23 pm

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In post 155, Kokichi Oma wrote:Not sure who is scum.
Pretend you were a 1-shot dayvig and there was only one scum and we had 5 seconds left

Who would you shoot?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:23 pm

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Ftr normally I love zero quality posts like that this early but....TIME
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Post Post #159 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:28 pm

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In post 158, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 156, the worst wrote:
In post 155, Kokichi Oma wrote:Not sure who is scum.
Pretend you were a 1-shot dayvig and there was only one scum and we had 5 seconds left

Who would you shoot?
It's been like 5 pages, why would I just random shoot someone.
It's 7 pages c'mon that's heaps of content :P

Just tryna get conversation going. Everyone hates D1 I think.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:19 pm

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:facepalm:

Bird blocking {love, chick, tw}
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Post Post #165 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:34 pm

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In post 164, Iconeum wrote:
In post 163, the worst wrote::facepalm:

Bird blocking {love, chick, tw}
Useless post. It's not like we are on the clock or something. Y no reply to my opening post?
That post was infinitely deeper than I can possibly explain :]

I'm not really motivated to reply to your post in detail atm, I'm rarely a habitual wallposter and currently happyish enough with my read on you so yeah

I don't think Bins is a very good vote but its more of an experience/tonal thing, I haven't played before but scum would be very aware of how what she's done would be perceived...? It's a fine entrance and I like that you're hunting I just don't think she's scum


Vonflare nulltown

Agreed on Porkens, I'm actually quite keen for him to catch up.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:35 pm

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What do you think of Kokichi?
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Post Post #173 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:15 am

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Why are you so focused on QL?

QL is an awful idea every time (unless it's a joke in which case it's hilarious :lol:) and I'm 99% sure it was a joke. On top of this even if we do decide it is somehow a good idea....and I'll eat humble pie......it's a matter of playstyles & opinions alone currently and really shouldn't be considered AI o.O

You will see tears leeking from these black beedy eyes if town decides to proceed with the QL plan. Can you explain to me how it benefits town / what your motivation is for reading people based off their reactions to it?
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Post Post #174 (isolation #24) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:17 am

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In post 172, profii wrote:Momrangel - i cant make sense of this slot at all, I'll decide later.
NO MOM

Does this mean you're scum with profii?!

I hope we roll the same alignment one day :c
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Post Post #216 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:49 pm

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In post 214, Ausuka wrote:This game is not nearly active enough. Right now I'm pretty willing to lynch in {Koki, LUV}
Ditto this lynchpool

Porkens you know the theme of this game kinda necessitates keeping up right?
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Post Post #217 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:51 pm

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In post 216, the worst wrote:
In post 214, Ausuka wrote:This game is not nearly active enough. Right now I'm pretty willing to lynch in {Koki, LUV}
Ditto this lynchpool
+ profii :]
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Post Post #219 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:07 pm

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I'm not really sure town comes to the conclusions Profii is coming too... :/

but yay wagons!! VOTE: Lil Uzu Vert
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Post Post #243 (isolation #28) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:35 am

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VOTE: Profii
vote feels a lot better here

L-3 by my count
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Post Post #245 (isolation #29) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:47 am

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to allow time for any unforeseen fuckery outside D1 I really think we should have someone's head within 36 hours

but maybe that's just me
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Post Post #246 (isolation #30) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:48 am

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NERO if you're still there


are you happy w/ voteparking LUV?
what do you think of profii?
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Post Post #247 (isolation #31) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:48 am

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let's talk about Koki and Mom as well :]
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Post Post #251 (isolation #32) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:12 pm

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what makes you think profii is unlikely to flip scum?

I'll admit I'm a little tunnelled on him but he's mostly busywork so far. his reasoning also feels like "this sounds like it's a good idea for town" more than "this is a good idea for town", like I feel like scum!profii is more likely to reach that outcome than town!profii
do you think town!profii comes up with his reasoning? & are good examples of what I'm looking at
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Post Post #252 (isolation #33) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:14 pm

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goal in life: find someone who i can sheep on Mom D;
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Post Post #256 (isolation #34) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:45 pm

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do you really think Koki is likely scum?

agree they're definitely the lowest hanging fruit atm
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Post Post #260 (isolation #35) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:31 pm

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mm same

normally I townread Ico in like 2 seconds flat, he has this kinda inquisitive/faux-aggressive townie playstyle
this totally feels like he's trying to seem like himself so to speak
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Post Post #261 (isolation #36) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:31 pm

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profii's puppy is just..too cute
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Post Post #264 (isolation #37) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:38 pm

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SAME HERE

i hate how easy it feels but every time i try to disprove myself i'm like uuuhhh....
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Post Post #273 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:15 pm

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any other reads of note?
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Post Post #277 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:19 pm

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I'd be interested to hear more on your Mom read, too, Porkens.

Or any of your scumreads :]
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Post Post #287 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:46 pm

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akshully where is von ):
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Post Post #289 (isolation #41) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:13 pm

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Hypocrisy is probably a slight towntell I think
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Post Post #292 (isolation #42) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:20 pm

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I'm always underwhelming :]
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Post Post #299 (isolation #43) » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 pm

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actually same profii, i was just about to say vonflare should really be posting more
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Post Post #303 (isolation #44) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:09 am

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I'm liking Porkens.

Porkens, what's your take on Koki? How about Ausuka?
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Post Post #304 (isolation #45) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:09 am

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And updated take on Nero?
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Post Post #307 (isolation #46) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:44 am

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I'm happy waiting within reason. :]

Vonflare should post more.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #47) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:10 am

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what are your thoughts on me advocating for your lynch?
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Post Post #314 (isolation #48) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:14 pm

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I've flip flopped a lot but very cold on LUV and Koki SRs
Porkens I'm still trying to work out exactly but I like the fact he finally took a stance and cast a vote

do you see scum!Porkens doing this? I'll admit low key him dragging his feet this much is maybe short term anti-town but..........
who is scum here?
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Post Post #315 (isolation #49) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:26 pm

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I'd rather vote someone who seems to be to be scum motivated than people who just.. currently aren't vry helpful
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In post 250, xyzzy wrote:as of this votecount, you have 26 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes.
we really need to be consolidating

I'm willing to get off profii if someone can show me who tf is more scum motivated than him today

where is vonflare again :C
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Post Post #320 (isolation #51) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:43 pm

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Deliver me a better wagon
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Post Post #321 (isolation #52) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:43 pm

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Will sheep it
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Post Post #322 (isolation #53) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:44 pm

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WKing profii with no substance is the worsttt
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Post Post #324 (isolation #54) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:05 pm

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Rly it's so surface tho
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Post Post #327 (isolation #55) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:16 pm

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Ausuka can be town I think

Pretty sure at least one of profii & vonflare is scum. His defending profii could literally be either alignment but I don't really dig the style of it.

Iconeum would be a great compromise lynch he should be obvtown by nowwww
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Post Post #329 (isolation #56) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:17 pm

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Ya bussing
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Post Post #331 (isolation #57) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:28 pm

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I appreciate that I'm facetious

Don't disagree with the idea that we should be looking for at least one scum somewhere on this wagon tbh but I'm not convinced it's a mislynch
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Post Post #348 (isolation #58) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:43 pm

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Iconeum
bruh
gimme something

you're playing hard into your scum meta
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Post Post #355 (isolation #59) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:47 am

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In post 354, Momrangal wrote:
In post 325, Ausuka wrote:If profii is scum, so is vonflare. And I don't think vonflare is scum.
Enlighten me. Why do they gotta be scum together and why can't they have opposing alignments?
actually this. I regret not asking sooner.

I wouldn't be remotely surprised if one or the other is scum.
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Post Post #378 (isolation #60) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:47 pm

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In post 363, Nero Cain wrote:@ Worst-I'm not sure why you are cold on LUV and KOKI scum reads b/c between those two and Porkens they are doing shit all. I guess you could argue that LUV and Porkens are moving the game forward by voting Profi but meh.
I mean without knowing either of their town or scum games at least it feels like they're taking a stance and trying to do something. LUV and Koki are just too null to be SRing while there's more interesting stuff going on imo, I'll visit them later assuming they do something

there are probably players I'm digging less than profii right now (say Iconeum/vonflare) but I don't see either of them as more likely wagons atm
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Post Post #379 (isolation #61) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:25 pm

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actually no Iconeum is a better lynch VOTE: Iconeum

on reread von is more likely scum than profii but pretty sure at least one of them is red. his push on ME is shit and I can smell a bad cw when i see one :c
I don't mind being D1 lynch too much just remember scum is somewhere in profii/vonflare and lynch Iconeum with fire :lol:
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Post Post #380 (isolation #62) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:15 pm

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hold on

considering how we should be working in 96 hr days how quickly do ppl feel the profii wagon actually took off?
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Post Post #382 (isolation #63) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:56 pm

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whose reaction to what Koki?
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Post Post #384 (isolation #64) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:37 pm

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we do 100%. Ico is scummy and his wagon is currently two of my TRs.

I'm rollin with it
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Post Post #389 (isolation #65) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:36 pm

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In post 388, profii wrote:I’d still rather do Koki over Ico rn
Why?
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Post Post #393 (isolation #66) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:56 pm

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Right, when Icon was interacting with the thread he did the grand total of:-
- threw down some really weird tunnelly reads way too early
- plucked one of my posts out of all of them to call useless
- empty voted me after ignoring my post directed back at him

Dude doesn't like scum and has a meta of being outspoken and like, soft-aggressive as town. it TOTALLY feels like he's uncomfortable interacting with other players and trying to look busy/towny while he is.
Koki has been a little interactive and is just taking his time forming reads

basically I trust Koki to be form reads later in the game more than I trust Ico to be town :P
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Post Post #396 (isolation #67) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:15 pm

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but even the trajectory of his '''read''' on me is awful
In post 161, Iconeum wrote:the worst a lot of NAI stuff, but get a feeling he wants this game moving forward
half a shade-throw half a light TR??
In post 164, Iconeum wrote:
In post 163, the worst wrote::facepalm:

Bird blocking {love, chick, tw}
Useless post. It's not like we are on the clock or something. Y no reply to my opening post?
to which I replied in some length despite the fact I didn't feel like it.....and he ignored my reply........ :(((

and then naked vote
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Post Post #397 (isolation #68) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:15 pm

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like 150 posts later

I'd probably be reading totally differently if he'd made some kind of effort to communicate tbf
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Post Post #398 (isolation #69) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:20 pm

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profii if you're still there

how do you read Nero Cain? Ausuka? and Bins?
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Post Post #400 (isolation #70) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:43 pm

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Lovebirdy is a townread at the moment. I'm pretty comfortable revisiting this read on D2. Let me have a digest.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #71) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:48 pm

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do you think the Ico wagon (Bins / Ausuka / me) is predominantly scum or town driven?

do you think the Koki, Ico or TW wagon is better? why/why not?
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Post Post #402 (isolation #72) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:50 pm

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apologies for the spanish inquisition this will help me
In post 399, profii wrote:QL thing seems to be a bit of a gimmick almost
on the QL thing, I think there's probably some terminology greyness here. all in all we agree that D1 needs to be fast.
a true blind QL type deal is obviously anti town so I'm glad everyone's cleared up that no one wants this... :P

as it is a bit of a gimmick, why did you base a lot of your original reads around it?
did you like Bins' reasons for coming forward with the idea of a quick lynch? I can dig up the post if that'll help
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Post Post #404 (isolation #73) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:25 pm

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No promises
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Post Post #407 (isolation #74) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:50 pm

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Sure, meta is also very difficult to gauge since he's participated so little.
It's more like one very very strong ping than numerous pings. I just need him to offer something. I've seen Ico obvtown like mad D1 before, town!Ico would know that his level of content so far isn't acceptable

one last question here, how do you feel about vonflare atm?
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Post Post #409 (isolation #75) » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:09 am

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yeah the sudden intense WKing has me a bit like uuuhhh
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Post Post #411 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:27 am

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categorically I think Iconeum is the best lynch here because I'd like to lynch scum.
koki feels like......such a compromise, everything about that lynch is lacklustre.. (unfortunately everything includes his reaction).......


I'm reasonably happy saying either of us would be a bad lynch as things stand.
I'm also currently very interested to see what Momrangal things of Iconeum vs. Kokichi and current gamestate.


and yeah deadline has me a bit down. I think marathon weekend fucked us a bit on top of holidays. god it was fun though :3
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Post Post #435 (isolation #77) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:38 pm

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Disappointed mostly.. :/ it was a shit read on my part, though I had literally nothing to work with and his posting did not feel genuine. Obviously I laid out my SR in more detail but the flashiness of the wagon took me a little by surprise. Actually following it, I feel a lot less uncomfortable with the profii wagon.

Mom, why did you hammer? I wanted to talk to you about stuff!
How do you feel about profii currently? What do you think of the epic flashwagon on Ico?
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Post Post #436 (isolation #78) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:39 pm

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Chickadee what motivated you to join the Icowagon?

I was down with tonsillitis last week too I know your pain :c
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Post Post #448 (isolation #79) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:32 pm

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Von they're both in like a ?_?block for me. I don't like the survivalist vibe I got from Koki late yday much but with zero content to adjust either of their faults against.....I am ok giving them maybe 48 hours to impress me before stabbing either of them.
In post 439, Chickadee wrote:Pedit: Von, you remain my top town read. Anything more to add than doot?
What makes Von a strong townread of yours?
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Post Post #451 (isolation #80) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:34 pm

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In post 442, Lovebird wrote:Nero Cain
Ausuka
Lovebird

the worst

Porkens
Chickadee
Momrangal
profii
Kokichi Oma
Bins

vonflare

Lil Uzi Vert


Am I missing someone for townreads?
Why Bins Von or LUV? Just summarily is fine

For the record I have a light tonal townread on Mom but wanna hear more from her this phase :] it would've been stronger if not for her last D1 post there
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Post Post #454 (isolation #81) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:38 pm

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In post 452, vonflare wrote:
In post 448, the worst wrote:Von they're both in like a ?_?block for me.

really? because just recently you said you liked porkens:
In post 303, the worst wrote:I'm liking Porkens.

Porkens, what's your take on Koki? How about Ausuka?
what changed?
Literally nothing happened
Therein lies my issues

I was liking the way he was going for a while but his content is so lacklustre I need more to feel comfortable.

I kinda like the fact he took a stance on "locktown"ing Mom who is super difficult to read at all but otherwise do you see any reason I should have a different stance on him? :P
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Post Post #455 (isolation #82) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:39 pm

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In post 302, Porkens wrote:VOTE: unvote
VOTE: profii

mom locktown
In post 303, the worst wrote:I'm liking Porkens.

Porkens, what's your take on Koki? How about Ausuka?
Just for context
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Post Post #457 (isolation #83) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:45 pm

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Correct his brief interest in the game but mostly-inactivity and Koki's slightly survivalistic vibes at the end of the day haven't really been enough to give me a read
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Post Post #458 (isolation #84) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:46 pm

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I want to see what Porkens' reasoning is before comitting to his lynch but on a basic level I have no objections, no.

In the interest of time if he hasn't blown my mind in 48 hrs I'll sheep that wagon.

Why do you want to push a Porkens lynch?
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Post Post #461 (isolation #85) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:48 pm

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In post 459, vonflare wrote:because he's scum.
Step me through it
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Post Post #463 (isolation #86) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:52 pm

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I'll get back to that, thank you
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Post Post #465 (isolation #87) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:57 pm

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On account of the fact I'm town explain how Porkens is scum

Your case just hit new levels of horse shit btw. Even besides the fact I know for a fact you're wrong you're lining up lynches based on pre flip associatives which are.....not good??
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Post Post #468 (isolation #88) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:09 pm

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My alignment has nothing to do with Porkens' though. Your suggestion it does is an obscene stretch. :P

Also if your case was legitimate, I can't see why Porkens flipping EITHER alignment would make your read on me better or worse. I literally expressed that I was liking the way Porkens was taking a stance on Mom. Other than that I'm 100% "meh" on him.

Explain to me how Porkens is scum outside of your really bad attempt at associations?



pedit: ok he's a lurker lynch, I have no reason to reconsider my stance on him
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Post Post #469 (isolation #89) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:11 pm

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In post 450, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 433, Chickadee wrote:@Kokichi - any reads yet? You were pretty eager to hammer yesterday.
When? Toward the end? I voted before hammer.
Duuuude why did you ignore the important part of that post? :lol:
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Post Post #470 (isolation #90) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:14 pm

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In post 319, vonflare wrote:I don't like this wagon
Talk to me about the profii wagon

The fact you have not even considered scum!profii that I can see is really disturbing to me


Do you still dislike the wagon when comparing it to the utter flashwagon on Iconeum?
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Post Post #477 (isolation #91) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:05 pm

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In post 473, Nero Cain wrote:In post 464, vonflare wrote:
you've been buddying porkens.

Shouldn't this mean that its more likely that worst is scum and Pork is town?
THANK YOU HIS CONCLUSION IS RIDICULOUS
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Post Post #479 (isolation #92) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:08 pm

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In post 473, Nero Cain wrote:In post 435, the worst wrote:
Actually following it, I feel a lot less uncomfortable with the profii wagon.

I don't understand.
So I'm not really organically scumreading profii anymore but I don't think his wagon seems all that strongly scum motivated. Within the context of this game it actually was a pretty long fought wagon. Compare with Ico who received two "seems scummy" votes then was speedlynched after I laid out a case on him.

I wanna see whether von, whose sole defence of profii was "I dont like his wagon", has any thoughts here
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Post Post #480 (isolation #93) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:09 pm

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Like theres a MUCH higher chance scum slipped into the back half of Ico's wagon imo
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Post Post #481 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:14 pm

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In post 428, xyzzy wrote:7 players voting for Iconeum (Bins, Ausuka, the worst, Kokichi Oma, Porkens, Chickadee, Momrangal)
Koki was blatantly opportunistic/survivalistic to the point where he contradicted his own banter abour stealing the hammervote so if he doesn't offer anything p quickly today he's a brilliant lynch

Porkens similar deal, if he doesn't offer anything quickly today he's a great lynch.

Chickadee and Mom I'm kinda townreading. It's weakening on Mom but I'd rather try and talk it through with her atm
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Post Post #483 (isolation #95) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:17 pm

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I gotchu bird fam

In post 451, the worst wrote:
In post 442, Lovebird wrote:Nero Cain
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Lovebird

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Chickadee
Momrangal
profii
Kokichi Oma
Bins

vonflare

Lil Uzi Vert


Am I missing someone for townreads?
Why Bins Von or LUV? Just summarily is fine

For the record I have a light tonal townread on Mom but wanna hear more from her this phase :] it would've been stronger if not for her last D1 post there
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Post Post #488 (isolation #96) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:55 pm

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In post 487, profii wrote:I’ll catch up on the last few pages later

Lovebird- assuming a strike = town read

Also - in this gimmick is there a scenario where no kill prolongs us and scum just Did that?
Yes. I was wondering about that at daystart.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #97) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:56 pm

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In post 486, Ausuka wrote:
In post 464, vonflare wrote:
you've been buddying porkens.

therefore, porkens is scum.
I scumread Porkens but like this is all kinds of wrong.
Firstly we mindmeld on Iconeum, I was genuinely surprised and disappointed with myself.

Secondly why do you SR Porkens?
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Post Post #491 (isolation #98) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:23 pm

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You're town right Ausuka?
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Post Post #493 (isolation #99) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:12 pm

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Phew that's a relief
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Post Post #497 (isolation #100) » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:32 pm

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Porkens gimme some juicy reads with a bit of reasoning?
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She did voice her discomfort with the quick lynch plan. But I'd be interested to see what her response is.

Who are you townreading? -- if still Mom, mind explaining a bit about your reasoning here?
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Post Post #556 (isolation #102) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 529, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 479, the worst wrote:but I don't think his wagon seems all that strongly scum motivated. Within the context of this game it actually was a pretty long fought wagon.
In post 480, the worst wrote:Like theres a MUCH higher chance scum slipped into the back half of Ico's wagon imo
Don't these contradict?

All of mom, chick, and pork were on both wagons.
In post 350, xyzzy wrote:6 players voting for profii (
Momranga
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Chickadee
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Porkens
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In post 428, xyzzy wrote:7 players voting for Iconeum (Bins, Ausuka, the worst, Kokichi Oma,
Porkens, Chickadee, Momrangal
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First comment was re profii wagon, second was re Ico wagon
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Post Post #557 (isolation #103) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 540, Momrangal wrote:Also the duck/pork interaction feels eerily similar to the last game I played with him regarding how he treated A50
There was literally almost no interaction between me/Pork -.- it's annoying tf out of me. Liking Koki better than him now

If his next post doesn't address my last question at him he's a definite vote
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Post Post #558 (isolation #104) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:36 am

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Ausuka full reads list please?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #105) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:43 am

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How do you feel about the pace of the profii wagon and eventual collapse vs. the lightning speed of the Ico wagon?
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Post Post #579 (isolation #106) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:22 am

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In post 561, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 556, the worst wrote:First comment was re profii wagon, second was re Ico wagon
i don't think that changes anything.
In post 560, the worst wrote:How do you feel about the pace of the profii wagon and eventual collapse vs. the lightning speed of the Ico wagon?
there was another wagon inbetween those.
Hmm?
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Post Post #580 (isolation #107) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:22 am

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Vonflare needs to rtft :) he's either scum or just not following me at all :lol:
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Post Post #581 (isolation #108) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:24 am

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Ya there's almost certainly scum in profii/von

Inactivity =/= alignment so not giving low activity players a chance to showcase their intent is full blown stupid
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Post Post #584 (isolation #109) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:28 am

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I'll test that one day
In post 582, Ausuka wrote:
In post 580, the worst wrote:rtft
Do people actually say this?
Only when extremely relevant, I dislike being rude generally but von's case is bad news
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Post Post #585 (isolation #110) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:29 am

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I think I've been fairly consistent (allowing for the fact reads and opinions develop), very transparent and explained myself well when questioned.

The fact he just ignores every post that doesn't suit his lame tunnel is like :I
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Post Post #587 (isolation #111) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:32 am

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Does town!von really push this aggressively while ignoring context and half the posts I've made? :P

This is setting up a lynch not trying to read alignments. He's clearly ISO'd me and pulled out bits which support his case
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Post Post #588 (isolation #112) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:34 am

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In post 586, Ausuka wrote:No but like I think I've only ever seen it on the wiki discussion page. Like I thought that was ANCIENT.
I guess we live in an era where most people actually read! :lol:
Not ashamed for calling out the exception.
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Post Post #591 (isolation #113) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:39 am

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I'm pretty sure he's scum for the pink

What about his first bad case on me which ended in him voting Porkens for even worse reasons? His weird white knighting profii D1? Seriously everything he does makes me :////

pedit: havent read last post yet
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Post Post #593 (isolation #114) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:42 am

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In post 590, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 579, the worst wrote:Hmm?
I mean, saying that you don't find the Profi wagon scum motivated and then turning around and saying that you think scum likely were on the tail end of the Ico wagon is a contradiction and your defense that they were comments about different wagons doesn't hold water. If you think that scum got in on the tail end of the Ico wagon then I'm not getting why you'd think that scum are not those on the Profi wagon.

I'm not 100% sure b/c you haven't outright said it but if you think Ico was a Profi counter wagon but there was a Koki wagon there in the middle and why are you pretending like that wasn't a thing?
That's a fair call. The Koki wagon was pretty short lived so I guess it didn't embed itself in my memory all that well. :P

This was mostly in reaction to people jumping off profii simply because the wagon was bad. I think he's town but I don't think that's a valid reason to be TRing him. I want other players' thoughts on this
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Post Post #595 (isolation #115) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:43 am

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I can respond to it if you'd like, phoneposting so it wont be as pretty as I'd like
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Post Post #596 (isolation #116) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:44 am

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I'm disappointed with myself for the Ico read but scum!Ico made a lot more sense than town!Ico there. At least nobody can suggest I'm alignment informed lol
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Post Post #598 (isolation #117) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:47 am

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:shifty:
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Post Post #600 (isolation #118) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:48 am

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I haven't checked the specific players gimme a sec
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Post Post #601 (isolation #119) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:50 am

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Meh guess that theory's a throwaway. Worth considering at least.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #120) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:54 am

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profii wagon = town
Ico wagon = scum
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Post Post #604 (isolation #121) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:55 am

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Like I'm townreading Bins and Ausuka and there doesn't seem to be much to learn by applying that assumption to the rest of the wagons
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Post Post #605 (isolation #122) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:04 am

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@von I am trying to sort Porkens, which I've been completely transparent about. I'm trying to sort a number of players hence why I contually ask people questions. Porkens is slipping down the list because of his constant badposting and disappearing when asked anything of substance, never to address it again.

UNFORTUNATELY I'm scumreading you so I instantly dislike his wagon


Sorry if you're town and got confused but why ISO me and question me on posts you don't like out of context? With just a little bit more reading IMO all the context is there?
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Post Post #606 (isolation #123) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:13 am

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Omg actually

Sorry for posting this much

Is anyone bored? Read my ISO and tell me who you think my most likely partber is. I'm trying to scumlens my own ISO to see if I reach the same conclusion as vonflare and I need someone I trust more than him to talk to about it
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Post Post #608 (isolation #124) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:48 am

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In post 607, vonflare wrote:
In post 603, the worst wrote:profii wagon = town
no
CONTEXT
AGAIN
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Post Post #615 (isolation #125) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:46 pm

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Since nobody is entertaining me..............

Scumlensing my ISO I would have reqched the conclusion of a {tw, koki} scumteam long before a {tw, porkens} scumteam

Von has literally crafted a story and is finding evidence to fit it, if {von, koki} contains 2 scum I'm losing my shit
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Post Post #616 (isolation #126) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:46 pm

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In post 613, vonflare wrote:
In post 608, the worst wrote:
In post 607, vonflare wrote:
In post 603, the worst wrote:profii wagon = town
no
CONTEXT
AGAIN
what is there to take out of context? how does context change the meaning of this statement? what are you trying to say?
That post was in response to Nero

Literally discounting my earlier theory
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Post Post #618 (isolation #127) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:15 pm

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I'll fite u for it
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Post Post #620 (isolation #128) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:36 pm

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Hi Mom!! Why not? Talking just from my ISO.

What do you think of Porkens/Koki atm? And what about profii?
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Post Post #623 (isolation #129) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:04 pm

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See that is a much more interesting case even tho it's still anti me and wrong

Do you see how fmpov von's case is a scum case?
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Post Post #624 (isolation #130) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:08 pm

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I got distracted. I think Mom's gripe there is a lot more likely to come from town than Von's case**
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Post Post #627 (isolation #131) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:44 pm

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Hope you're alright LUV :(
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Post Post #628 (isolation #132) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:44 pm

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Is it me?!
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Post Post #640 (isolation #133) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:50 pm

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In post 632, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hey
what's shaking?
I lol'd, well played
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Post Post #641 (isolation #134) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:52 pm

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Nero is towny af
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Post Post #642 (isolation #135) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:54 pm

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In post 639, Chickadee wrote:Could it be:
Ausuka
Lovebird
the worst



??

I got this list just from POE - taking out the people I wouldn't be willing to lynch today. I suppose I'll look more at these three. But not tonight. I'll do it tomorrow.
Why is Porkens out by POE?
I'd kinda ask the same about the LUV slot but I'm townreading it and wanna see Gamma in action so this is a kinda moot comment
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Post Post #645 (isolation #136) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:58 pm

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In post 643, Bins wrote:meh I could lynch Pork but I have no good reason
Who would you consider lynching today?
And who do you feel is super towny rn?
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Post Post #652 (isolation #137) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:21 pm

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I'm hard townreading Ausuka, she's helping lots and giving off a different vibe from the scum!her I've seen

How are you reading Nero and Mom?
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Post Post #653 (isolation #138) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:22 pm

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Yeah it's an interesting conundrum, like we need earlier days to have AS MUCH CONTENT as possible so town wins but at the same time dragging our feet = scum win
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Post Post #655 (isolation #139) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:32 pm

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And how about von?
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Post Post #656 (isolation #140) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:35 pm

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Mom keeps getring curiouser and curiouser, do you see scum!her derphammering the way she did while ignoring the gamestate? Allowing for the fact town is gonna be jumpy to vote like you pointed out
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Post Post #657 (isolation #141) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:37 pm

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(my own words in that last sentence, sneakyposting at work so can't track down the wording you used)
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Post Post #669 (isolation #142) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:27 pm

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That would mean there's a better than random chance of a lurkslot being scum! I like it!

VOTE: Porkens


pedit: this is a good soft guilty on a scummy slot, worth checking out anyday
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Post Post #671 (isolation #143) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:31 pm

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I'm looking forward to your catchup :]
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Post Post #674 (isolation #144) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:37 pm

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I read it as end of discussion fwiw
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Post Post #678 (isolation #145) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:00 pm

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Paaaaardon?!??
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Post Post #682 (isolation #146) » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:35 pm

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In post 681, profii wrote:
In post 676, Porkens wrote:If I die everyone loses daytalk.
are you using day talk for towns advantage right now?
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Post Post #687 (isolation #147) » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:19 am

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L-2
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Post Post #690 (isolation #148) » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:59 am

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In post 689, vonflare wrote:
In post 636, vonflare wrote: worst and porkens scum
be sure to quote me after the game
Oh, are you wrong on both of us or just me?
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Post Post #692 (isolation #149) » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:15 am

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Sounds good.
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #150) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:59 pm

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My reads have never been as bad in any game as they were here.....faark. i will never try to read ausuka again. XD

Except profii. Damn you, you adorable canine.....

Well played everyone, crazy well played scumteam!!
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Post Post #1275 (isolation #151) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:59 pm

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And thank you tonnes xyzzy for hosting. I am really really liking the Echo Bay narrative.
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #152) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:27 pm

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In post 1276, vonflare wrote:sorry worst i rly thought u were sucm
That's ok, I hardscumread you later
Kinda just wanted to jam w/ you about profii....in hindsight it seems kinda obvious you were town... :lol: I am a derp

I didn't approach it the right way, I reckon next time we're both town we'll probs be more in sync
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #153) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:44 pm

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In post 1277, xyzzy wrote:despite the scum sided nature of the setup, though, I think in practice the premise of having a deadline for the game as a whole like this worked out really well. it's probably not necessary to get quite as granular as having it be down to the minute, but I'd love to see other experimentation with the format.
When you originally mentioned it in sitecat, this is what hooked me. The idea is so so cool.

The concept was scum sided sure but I think town was just seriously outplayed here. We had plenty of power to turn this around but some really bad decisions (including me being a lazy scumy butt) lost it for us.

Ftr re dead thread--I think I was a fair vig target. I was just surprised it happened after the hood soft. Von/I seemed to resolve each other at some point.
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #154) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:01 pm

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In post 1282, Chickadee wrote:My reads were garbage.

But it's been pointed out by several people that most people think I'm garbage at this game anyway.
You're awesome Chicka<3
Scum were 11/10 this game, no joke.
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #155) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:37 pm

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But no more vigging me!! :P
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #156) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:35 am

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Stylistically I feel what you meant too. The overarching story thing is super super neat, xyzzy's modding style always feels like they're going somewhere awesome

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