Mini 1998: Super Smash Mafia for Nintendo Switch! [GAME OVER

[Joey_]

i dont know who to flip honestly, i hardtownread pinnochios then scumread his lines d2, maybe i should reread

[Joey_]

that might be the case
but no one acknowledged the post

If you want to read into that, mariar's subconsciously not being aware that the "cop" role and/or investigative role is dead might mean that shes town, since knowing that cop is dead is a huge deal for scum

[Joey_]

i dont know who to flip honestly, i hardtownread pinnochios then scumread his lines d2, maybe i should reread

what was different?

well idk! im a huge tone reader, sometimes i scumread someone really hard until i understand how he thinks then i hard townread their lines, and sometimes its the other way around.

i think i liked his nonchalance early on but his early play never really converted into "obvtown weirdo" like i expected him to, not sure if im being clear

[Joey_]

I dont know anything about pinnochhio, but he went into my pile of "weirdos" early on, like ppl who make hardlay any sens whatsoever like brafin for exemple (and just like you said, could be because they are newb). This profile of player get pushed on quite a bit because they are a doing wierd shit and outing wierd lines likes the gun one or how everyone kept pushing the infernoduck while pushed ME and i kept hardtownreading his sorry ass. That being said, normally those slot that i hard tr eventually keep producing content that i can townread (like the duck) but it didnt happened to the pinnochio

Im giving a pass to kokichi as well which might be an error. Im also giving a pass on you gamma because for the life of me i dont think i ever was satisfied with a read on your slot, i alwats always seems to second guess myself probably because your tone is pretty neutral most of the time

[Joey_]

something like that

[Joey_]

Kokichi Oma Joey_
Index Chan
Torque
pisskop Wisdom < Null line
Gamma Emerald Dunnstral
acryon pinturicchio <prob only 1 scum due to votes?

yass is my pocket warm enough for you sweetheart

[Joey_]

Good luck, i acted my illu

[Joey_]

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[Joey_]

actually i retract that beta emerald tr lol im still being unsure

[Joey_]

Wow nothing has happened in the last 24 hours.

You should not be prodging with how active you've been

Agree with this. Adds to the weirdness of his play.

@Joey: Who is scum?

real answer is not town and it describes how im going to move forward after my meat blunder

[Joey_]

i think pin is town gamma

Why?

Wow nothing has happened in the last 24 hours.

You should not be prodging with how active you've been

Agree with this. Adds to the weirdness of his play.

@Joey: Who is scum?

real answer is not town and it describes how im going to move forward after my meat blunder

Fair enough, but keep in mind almost everyone was a part of the meat blunder (although he looked like textbook scum so calling it a blunder seems overly negative).

True! the spirit of the lynch was correct but the result wasnt so im okay taking it slower this time

[Joey_]

I wil stick to my locktown reads and then lynch anything outside via poe and hierarchy of reads sooo

[Joey_]

I don't rly care if you sr me slot I expect to be lynched this game cause that's just how I roll.
But you're dam well not gonna shade my pushes when you're the one who's having an inactive hissy fit not doing shit.

Pedit: I hate that acryon is tring me for tone it's a huge reason why I have him as a scumread of mine
Torque is a bit better cause he has a lot of experience with me but that's not the reason why I'm townreading him in fact the tr went down a little because yes I can fake things like 768 I'm really fucking good at scum I know I am torque should know this too and his lack of paranoia around my slot is ?????? I still don't think his actions have been outright scummy.
Why do you not case people you say it's because they'll become townier but I disagree wouldn't you casing them help show others more reasons on why said person is scum and if they answer said case it gives you more holes to push in the argument

i tr you for tone, fite me ??

[Joey_]

im not decided yet @wis, will update my reads then make a move

[Joey_]

I don't rly care if you sr me slot I expect to be lynched this game cause that's just how I roll.
But you're dam well not gonna shade my pushes when you're the one who's having an inactive hissy fit not doing shit.

Pedit: I hate that acryon is tring me for tone it's a huge reason why I have him as a scumread of mine
Torque is a bit better cause he has a lot of experience with me but that's not the reason why I'm townreading him in fact the tr went down a little because yes I can fake things like 768 I'm really fucking good at scum I know I am torque should know this too and his lack of paranoia around my slot is ?????? I still don't think his actions have been outright scummy.
Why do you not case people you say it's because they'll become townier but I disagree wouldn't you casing them help show others more reasons on why said person is scum and if they answer said case it gives you more holes to push in the argument

i tr you for tone, fite me ??

you don't tr me hush.

i dont understand how you think scum-me bses about not making cases when like everyone knows i dont
Why you dont think i tr you ? i said so about 5 ish pages ago
didnt you say it yourself when i subbed in?

I know you don't make cases. I wanted to see why

[Joey_]

I don't rly care if you sr me slot I expect to be lynched this game cause that's just how I roll.
But you're dam well not gonna shade my pushes when you're the one who's having an inactive hissy fit not doing shit.

Pedit: I hate that acryon is tring me for tone it's a huge reason why I have him as a scumread of mine
Torque is a bit better cause he has a lot of experience with me but that's not the reason why I'm townreading him in fact the tr went down a little because yes I can fake things like 768 I'm really fucking good at scum I know I am torque should know this too and his lack of paranoia around my slot is ?????? I still don't think his actions have been outright scummy.
Why do you not case people you say it's because they'll become townier but I disagree wouldn't you casing them help show others more reasons on why said person is scum and if they answer said case it gives you more holes to push in the argument

i tr you for tone, fite me ??

you don't tr me hush.

i dont understand how you think scum-me bses about not making cases when like everyone knows i dont

didnt you say it yourself when i subbed in?

I know you don't make cases. I wanted to see why

MFW misquoted ***

Why you dont think i tr you ? i said so about 5 ish pages ago

[Joey_]

@town Im pretty certain this is town mariar btw, im also pretty sure im 10/10 on reading her

[Joey_]

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[Joey_]

i was memeing you but i still think ure le town

[Joey_]

yo wis talk to me about the pinnochio's tr

[Joey_]

cant help but think of scum-maria saying that to scum-dunn

think what you like but playing with Dunn has become more and more annoying to me over time.

why?

[Joey_]

me and dunn scum is really easy to win as because people mostly take my word as his best friend with my read on him.
It's kinda funny tbh Dunn can have like
1 or 2 posts and people will go "WHAT'S YOUR READ ON DUNN"
Pedit: Dunn's really good at this game if you can get him to play and I've talked to him to try and get him to play but even in hydras he's just...not there no matter how much I ask him to post more in games so he's just kinda a lurker who isn't doing stuff and it sucks cause ik he's better then this

ure a lying mefia!!! im your bestfriend

Honestly tho yea dun's fun when hes playing, i also think your interactions with him are very different than the dancer game

[Joey_]

yo wis talk to me about the pinnochio's tr

i liked how he handled my acryon vote, scum him probably doesnt say anything since he got one more vote for his mislynch but he remembered that i had stated im not voting acryon and questioned it
also how he wants to continue pushing acryon when he sees another wagon rising
in general I get the impression he has a strong read and wants to push it

to be fair, if you look into his pov, he basically fosed only you two (duck n crayola) then you replaced in and pushed on his other scumread. I get the town coherence in pointing out you voting crayola even if it was on his scumread tho, meaning he doesnt have an underlying agenda but ehhhhh i dont know wheres scum is dude, mariar's def town and crayola most likely too

[Joey_]

just because his stance on the beef flip and or wagon dont make any sens as mefia. He started d2 saying that while he wasnt on the wagon, he thought the wagon was onto scum etc it makes hardly any sens to be this transparent about your incoherent behavior idk and tonewise (yes tone wisdom) i think hes fine, he looks sincere in most of his post, his reads development looks organic

[Joey_]

Shed fearkill my kitty ass <3

[Joey_]

just because his stance on the beef flip and or wagon dont make any sens as mefia. He started d2 saying that while he wasnt on the wagon, he thought the wagon was onto scum etc it makes hardly any sens to be this transparent about your incoherent behavior idk and tonewise (yes tone wisdom) i think hes fine, he looks sincere in most of his post, his reads development looks organic

i dont agree with any of that
he had the same tone when i played with scum-him

my tone reading skills works for most players, not all of them which is how i form my early reads then proceed to poe later

[Joey_]

and what read development
he's latched onto what basically is a policy lynch

i disagree with his reads but im okay with the thought process

[Joey_]

you guys made me doubt my crayola read, its annoying

[Joey_]

lol

[Joey_]

Funny wagons

[Joey_]

@index get on pinnochio

[Joey_]

@index get on pinnochio

you got your mislynch yesterday
not today

Doesnt that imply you think im mefia or you are saying that in general

[Joey_]

in general
but you are more underwhelming than i expected

im not really happy with my crayon read if thats what you were implying

[Joey_]

Why are your reads so bad and why do people follow those reads? @Joey

Which reads and why are they bad

[Joey_]

Im mostly always correct btw when i out a read, i dont out many but i mean them

[Joey_]

My read on beef wasnt bad per se, its easy to call it bad in hindsight you know. What i did badly was rush the lynch but not the read itself (rushing it was the error). My read on you is far from being in the same ballpark as beef's so chill, if youre town i will change my mind eventually

[Joey_]

i crayolas just missed that dun was also voting on Mariar, meaning he looked at the ppl "not voting" and didnt look at the wagon composition and so on, imo town is more likely to check who is fence sitting + scum likely to be extremely aware of who is voting who

[Joey_]

the vote log has a typo btw if that wasnt clear

[Joey_]

Kokichi what is you read on mariar ?

[Joey_]

My read on beef wasnt bad per se, its easy to call it bad in hindsight you know. What i did badly was rush the lynch but not the read itself (rushing it was the error). My read on you is far from being in the same ballpark as beef's so chill, if youre town i will change my mind eventually

I'm talking about ex ante, not ex post. I'm using ex post to note that your read was confirmed as bad. I don't want to be lynched and be the same like Beef ("oh well, my read on Pin was bad too"). I'm not nearly playing like Beef so I expect better reads on me.

incorrect read =/= bad, like i said my actual mistake was not to get more content from the slot

[Joey_]

i crayolas just missed that dun was also voting on Mariar, meaning he looked at the ppl "not voting" and didnt look at the wagon composition and so on, imo town is more likely to check who is fence sitting + scum likely to be extremely aware of who is voting who

I think this is reaching

not its not, its reading the game and having genuine observations. I made a read similar to that one about mariar being oblivious that rask fliped cop

[Joey_]

I'm a one shot vigilante. I shot acryon last night and he didn't die

you fucking kidding me lol

[Joey_]

UNVOTE:

[Joey_]

can i just fucking read before ppl use my vote on a claimed vig yo

[Joey_]

Btw pinnochio a huge part of my fos was actually your rxn to me calling your soft out, it was also the basis of mariar's fos on you and thus, my read was correct in that you were being awk/non genuine there

[Joey_]

i have a class will read later

[Joey_]

i crayolas just missed that dun was also voting on Mariar, meaning he looked at the ppl "not voting" and didnt look at the wagon composition and so on, imo town is more likely to check who is fence sitting + scum likely to be extremely aware of who is voting who

I think this is reaching

not its not, its reading the game and having genuine observations. I made a read similar to that one about mariar being oblivious that rask fliped cop

the one about maria was somewhat better, though it was still shallow in that she could have faked it

but the one now is reaching, scum acryon could have miseed the vc error just the same as town acryon

i honestly dont give a slight fuck about your opinion on my reads buddy ftr

[Joey_]

Its always the same thing this game, and yes im conf biasing my read because i kinda townread crayola still so eat me

[Joey_]

i crayolas just missed that dun was also voting on Mariar, meaning he looked at the ppl "not voting" and didnt look at the wagon composition and so on, imo town is more likely to check who is fence sitting + scum likely to be extremely aware of who is voting who

I think this is reaching

not its not, its reading the game and having genuine observations. I made a read similar to that one about mariar being oblivious that rask fliped cop

the one about maria was somewhat better, though it was still shallow in that she could have faked it

but the one now is reaching, scum acryon could have miseed the vc error just the same as town acryon

i honestly dont give a slight fuck about your opinion on my reads buddy ftr

yeah as long as they can affect the game ill keep pointing out how theyre bad

they arent bad, you are also conf biasing but yes i do agree this one has less credibility. You are also way overestimating how much scum plan to fake stuff like this, most often than not scum dont plan slips like that

[Joey_]

Its always the same thing this game, and yes im conf biasing my read because i kinda townread crayola still so eat me

now is the time to vote torque then

ill do what i want thx

[Joey_]

mariar pin was scummy because he obviously softed and was caught, why do you doubt his claim ?

[Joey_]

i personnaly think pin's been obvious town since the claim and early on but not between those 2 points

[Joey_]

Why the fuck would I tunnel so hard someone being scum, for fucks sake, I'm not that stupid

Why would you soft this obviously your role ?

[Joey_]

IDK MARIAR IM NOT OMNIPOTENT

[Joey_]

VOTE: pin

[Joey_]

actually cant both be town ? i hard townread mariar and i townread pin, so eh

[Joey_]

also mariar doesnt just CC that as scum

[Joey_]

UNVOTE: how can both be town ? im bad at setup spec

[Joey_]

Why the fuck would I tunnel so hard someone being scum, for fucks sake, I'm not that stupid

Why would you soft this obviously your role ?

Reactions?? You have to think about the macro game and not only the micro game. I now have to set of reactions: my softclaim and my claim. I only had one shot so I'm pretty much useless now.

its a terrible way to rxn test ppl also its begging for votes

[Joey_]

2 vigs is a game like this? Unless you wanna tell me scum have a bp/doctor no way

this points to acrylo as scum bg maybe

[Joey_]

bp

[Joey_]

2 vigs is a game like this? Unless you wanna tell me scum have a bp/doctor no way

Uuuuuuh maybe that's why I thought that acryon should've died?????

thats bs since you didnt know mariar's role, it only more credible since 2 vig shot claim

[Joey_]

VOTE: acryon

i told you youre only obv as town when ure pr

[Joey_]

BTW we should wait a day for ANYONE to claim responsible for the shot failling to kill croyola

[Joey_]

Why the fuck would I tunnel so hard someone being scum, for fucks sake, I'm not that stupid

Why would you soft this obviously your role ?

Reactions?? You have to think about the macro game and not only the micro game. I now have to set of reactions: my softclaim and my claim. I only had one shot so I'm pretty much useless now.

its a terrible way to rxn test ppl also its begging for votes

I wanted votes on me, I have been playing scummy totally out of my townrange to be exactly were I am as I'm not too invested in this game because of the bunch of trolls. Now I'm way less invested because shitcop treating me like I'm shit when all I did was ask a simple question

cool, then dont fucking say im bad at mafia when i scumread your play when you are doing salyers gambit

[Joey_]

You also appealed to me, its odd that you would need to appeal to someone scumreading you when you are doing that gambit, its just odd play

[Joey_]

Not, i never saw a Joat 1xvig + another vig 1xshot, if anything i would give the vig 2 shot and give the joat another ability, or one lessa bilitiy. The fact that town could make 1 lynch + 2shots in one night doesnt sound right to me the more im thinking about it

[Joey_]

if you're actually trying to push that logic whew
Pedit: 2 vigs dunn.

maybe pin just scum?

[Joey_]

We should wait to see if anyone has business about the hypothetical failed shot

[Joey_]

ill prob lynch pin here if no one has anything to do with the failed shot

[Joey_]

the heavy POE 3/3 im lookin at is torque/pinnochio/dun

What do you think mariar?

quoting myself to shove it in wisdom's ass

[Joey_]

i think its L-1 BTW, lets wait for dun/kokichi to post

[Joey_]

im usunre on torque but its hard to believe 2 1xVig

[Joey_]

If you think that's why you're scum I don't feel bad shooting you

rekt

[Joey_]

Mariar's play make 0 sens ever as scum

[Joey_]

She would cc an exhausted Vig 1xshot town just to lynch them, i dont think so

[Joey_]

yea 2x1shot vig is just ehhh

[Joey_]

exactly why pin is dying!

Do you agree to shoot tonight ? especially if pin flip town ?

[Joey_]

Does it make any difference if I say that I'm actually a two shot vigilante and I was lying so if I was roleblocked I wouldn't get roleblocked again and shoot acryon?

Can you just hardclaim

[Joey_]

We can easilllyyyyyyy Vig test <3

Mafia cannot role block 2 of them anyway

[Joey_]

Maybe we have a sk ? is sk possible in this setup ?

[Joey_]

I'm Jigglypuff, a two shot vigilante. Hardclaim. In my fourth post I asked someone if he had a problem with pink balloons. I was overwhelmed with people noticing my crumbing, I posted it as a joke and it backfired. I'm the lowest tier fighter so I think it would be hilarous if I get mislynched

Do you agree on vig testing ? like we leash your shot in exchange you dont get bamboozled tonight

[Joey_]

hmmm lemme think this is kinda stupid to vig test isnt it

[Joey_]

Maybe we ask to cross kill ? If any of them flip town we lynch the other.. honestly 2xshot vig is a really common role, yet i dont see mariar's cc'ing there arg

[Joey_]

I would shoot Torque or acryon because they're the most scumread players at this moment, as they're wagons are the biggest (excluding mine)

you think mariar's town ?

[Joey_]

We also assure that no protective be on these 3 slot + if any of the target are BP they should claim before

[Joey_]

i think lynching pin's just better tbh but this is safer

[Joey_]

lol gamma read the game

[Joey_]

experience tells me that this kind of plan very very very rarely works, ppl ends up doing whatever they want almost every time

[Joey_]

experience tells me that this kind of plan very very very rarely works, ppl ends up doing whatever they want almost every time

thats why maria shoots dunn and not him

i know but if i was vig and ccd like that i might just want to shoot my cc you know, saying

[Joey_]

We can easilllyyyyyyy Vig test <3

Mafia cannot role block 2 of them anyway

that only works if both are town

Yea cross kill seems like a better option

[Joey_]

my fear is that somehow pin flip actuall town vig here lol

[Joey_]

mariar being sk doesnt really work imo so pin is the meanie

[Joey_]

she*

[Joey_]

ahh misread, soz

[Joey_]

i honestly doubt 3 deaths will happen lol theres always something

[Joey_]

@pinnnochio pk claimed ? where and what

[Joey_]

if hes town bp it gives creidbility to pint btw

[Joey_]

that he actually tried to shoot them (or he rolecoped him as mafia but thats just ehh)

[Joey_]

Lets make an official contract/plan that everyone agree on for tomorow

[Joey_]

if hes town bp it gives creidbility to pint btw

That's exactly what I'm saying. If acryon was a BP, he could claim and give me a hand on this, but he's not doing it, because he's not a BP

him not being bp doesnt mean hes mafia tho

[Joey_]

Lets make an official contract/plan that everyone agree on for tomorow

No

why not, it kills any ambiguities

[Joey_]

Lets make an official contract/plan that everyone agree on for tomorow

such as?

Mariar shoot X
Pint shoot y

X and Y claims to not be BP'S
Everyone agree to not use protective on X and Y

somthing like that

[Joey_]

You are in the school of thought that everyone being uninformed is best for town, i disagree i think the more infomation town has the easier it is to poe down fuckers mefias

[Joey_]

And then, what makes you think people won't disregard the plan tonight, or tomorrow? Youve surely played enough to know that one RC can completely bungle a plan, for good or ill.

thats the point of the contract, if they claim to not have followed it they basically claim to have played againts their wincon because they will be considered as scumclaiming, thats the point of the contract to keep ppl from being stubborn like Rc and do wahtever

[Joey_]

RC is doing this kind of shit behavior because ppl let him and dont punish him for that, im not gonna be a pussy and go back on my words if whoever agree to the plan dont follow it to the fucking word

[Joey_]

Like its pointless to let the SK live if we cannot MAKE SURE everything goes to plan and the only way to do that is to KILL ANY AMBIGUITIES AND FORCE THEM TO ACT THE WAY WE WANT, if they dont we lynch their ass one by one

[Joey_]

I already said so, im on phone now so lazy to retype

[Joey_]

Maybe we ask to cross kill ? If any of them flip town we lynch the other.. honestly 2xshot vig is a really common role, yet i dont see mariar's cc'ing there arg

Awful plan

I was thinking out loud

[Joey_]

i dont get it, i read pinnochio as town so hard yet mariar's claim is impossible to do as scum or sk, it makes 0 sens i dont get it

[Joey_]

im resisting it wis, wanna fite?

[Joey_]

Scum can also easily force town to take a whole day to lynch an sk or they put themselves in a really shitty situation

[Joey_]

im scared of sk and im town so

[Joey_]

So basically since no one claimed responsibilities for the failed shot, heres the scenarios since im assume town didnt influence the shot

1. Crayole le mefia with le bp (itd be easy to claim bp here as mefia if Pinnochio's was really vig)
2. Pinnochio le mefia with le lie (unlikely, feels like he really did shoot imo here)
3. Pinnochio really did shot le crayola but he was blocked by mafia in some ways (??? likely, still pointing to pinnochio's being 3p)

????

[Joey_]

Alsooo

4. We leash the sk, mafia wifom and let him live, town is forced to lynch Sk or prisoner dilemna ?????
??? town get fucked in the ass ??

[Joey_]

Mfw the mod sliped that index’s town

[Joey_]

Notice how the mod used the phrasing “if i told you” over “if i answered that question” implying the favoritism would apply if index knew the answer to that question. Also there wouldnt be any favoritism toward scum there but only town thus the answer/information is pro-town. Tell me im reaching again pk/wis

[Joey_]

Lol everytime im reaching im correct ftrr

[Joey_]

Also the mod hesitating there about answered imo means that the answer would help the situation at hand, also saying “one side” is uhh kinda makes me want to believe there isnt an sk lmao

[Joey_]

Lolol curious about how right i am

[Joey_]

It does violate the spirit of the game but info is info

[Joey_]

Good job hammering randomly guys

[Joey_]

Torque disnt even have the time to claim if he had anything to do with the failed shot

[Joey_]

that was such a scum hammer dude imo

[Joey_]

but its so odd

[Joey_]

mfw wrong thread

[Joey_]

fucking hell

lol 1 was random as shit, d2 wasnt fite me pinnochio

[Joey_]

same

[Joey_]

dont you fucking self dude

[Joey_]

also i feel bad for the flip, torque was a poe for me i shouldve read more in detail and voiced my opinion more

[Joey_]

VOTE: Pinturicchio
I already said it: I must not live until a MyLo or LyLo situation or scum will push my wagon to death. Lynch me today, as I don't have more shots.
MariaR is conftown or a Serial Killer, she made the pisskop shot.

do you claimed blocked ?

[Joey_]

Beta Emerald	Cuckichi	Pinocchio	Torque
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[Joey_]

loled at your 1688 when i was updating my list

[Joey_]

we lynch dun 10000% today btw

[Joey_]

Beta Emerald	Cuckichi	Pinocchio
???	???	2xVIG
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[Joey_]

Im unsure about gamma ! i think hes town but unsure, unlike how sure i am on both you and le grill. Acrylic is prob town too imo

[Joey_]

maybe pinto is actually baiting mariar into claiming the kill, that would be the only logical (and terrible) explanation for pinto to not out who they shot + self

[Joey_]

maybe pinto is actually baiting mariar into claiming the kill, that would be the only logical (and terrible) explanation for pinto to not out who they shot + self

What the fuck are you talking about

She already claimed she would shoot someone tonight, and me saying that MariaR is town or a SK is me saying I didn't shoot pisskop, so unless scum killed pisskop (???), Maria did it

Could you make some actual sense?

you have 0 credibility to ever say something to me while you are selfing, if you want ppl to read you then unvote

[Joey_]

I was also hinting that MAYBE you shot PK and you are baiting mariar to claim the kill. Because not cc'ing your "vig cc" and confirming that they shot the mafia then selfing is just freaking odd play man as either alignement

[Joey_]

I don't want people to read me, I want to get lynched, as it the best for my wincon

wtf, if you are town its never best for your wincon to get lynched, neither is for scum actually

[Joey_]

@pinnochio you shouldnt be voting yourself

[Joey_]

Pinnochio's, this is a loser attitude to consider your lynch as town to be the best thing for the game, it serves no purposes if you are actually town because mariar's alignement wont change by your flip : Shes either SK or town. I once was literraly followed by mafia onto the night kill and i still survived that game for many days because mafia wanted to kept me alive for the wifom value. Dont be that guy who abandon.

[Joey_]

I'm not abandoning. I'll be the best lynch option tomorrow and that means we lose. Hell just by saying all this someone will start with "uh but what if Pin voted himself and said he wanted to be lynched just to get towncred??" Just kill me already. I'm voting myself not in LyLo or MyLo, I'm doing it now so town gets better chances at winning. I'm a better lynch than anyone else because we don't know anyone's alignment and if we mislynch a town, we lose. Chances of making a mislynch today are higher than making them tomorrow, also PoE will be better tomorrow

just replace out if you are to self

[Joey_]

VOTE: pin you deserve to lose the game for your faction for that shot alone, that is freaking ridiculous

[Joey_]

Also it means mafia has a night shot that is unclaimed/uncompleted

[Joey_]

pin if you lie about shooting wisdom and you are town just to get lynched, this is black list worthy and is NOT PLAYING FOR YOUR WINCON

[Joey_]

Hes lying as town, ill post my paypal when he flips if im correct

[Joey_]

the unclaimed mafia shot is just ehh weird, pin has little incencitive to not claim blocked in some ways, the wis shot is like 100% scum motivated

[Joey_]

Pin out who you actually shot in twilight

[Joey_]

the unclaimed mafia shot is just ehh weird, pin has little incencitive to not claim blocked in some ways, the wis shot is like 100% scum motivated

the mafia shot was wisdom REEEEEE

thats too stupid, theres no need to pin to scumclaim today while waiting for you to claim so he could tell everyone how he shot obvtown wis, makes n0 sens

[Joey_]

I did shot Wisdom, and if instead of asking the logic behind it you just mock me just confirms why I'm not invested in this game. I still think I'm the best lynch for today tho

LOL

[Joey_]

Like there isnt a fucking alignement that could fit your behavior but fucking fool, congratz

[Joey_]

acry can be scum bp in that scenario, i just think that i dont see anything else than blatant gt to explain this shit lmao

[Joey_]

Mariar pin is either trolling or gting

[Joey_]

I could see a pin claiming he shot wis when he was just infact rbed

Why would he wait for you to show up to claim who he shot ?

[Joey_]

and no i didnt

[Joey_]

And i know what youre thinking btw, that im informed scum doing theater, i just GENUINELY have no idea how he can justify his play as either alignement

[Joey_]

I openly softed I was shooting PK you think he's gonna cc my shot?
Pedit: you are though...Joey did you iq take a dive with Pin here?

its better than claiming to have shot wis lol

[Joey_]

Also they mightve not rbed you because they assumed you would shoot pin (if hes scum he might be bp) no?

[Joey_]

Pin can you seriously claim your role, im not keen to wait another 24 hours twilight for your flip

[Joey_]

Also Pin if you shot wisdom why wait so long to say

i know, makes 0 sens

[Joey_]

In the event I have a guilty. Should i claim it now?

lol fucking yes

[Joey_]

you know better tho considering you know your role

[Joey_]

Btw i so fucking called it, hes a freaking dumbass

[Joey_]

he prob lied

[Joey_]

i reread everything that happened 2-3 pages before his lynch for a few times and i read his post when he claimed he actually shot wisdom. A part of me actually believe he did shoot wisdom and he felt like he was misunderstood about the reasons why he would do such a thing, but again this play is seriously extremely fucking terrible no offense @pinnochio, you drop the ball

Also i reread and i wanna flip gamma, im drunk too so lets say my scumhunting senses are more sharp

[Joey_]

@Mariar where did u soft you would shoot pk

[Joey_]

@alisae whos the joat youre talking about, i forgot and im lazy

[Joey_]

pin/acry/PK/Kokichi
shooting in this

This is not heavily softing that you would shoot pk sweety

[Joey_]

wow im so fuckig stupid and forgot mariar's the joat

Mariar thats bs saying that you heavily softed you would shoot pk, if anything you heavily softed youd shoot pin but okay! i still think you believe you did soft even if i disagree that it was a strong soft

[Joey_]

@Mariar do you still think im mafia who knew he would flip town ?

[Joey_]

welll it felt like you did tho and i honestly thinks it was fine to think so too! pinnochio's play was weird

[Joey_]

Can someone fucking justify the sudden scumreads on me

poe, drunk pings

[Joey_]

poe because pinnochio and torque died so i was wrong
+ drunk pings because im drunk and read the game and it pings me. Drunk pings > sober pings

[Joey_]

lets do massclaim gamma

i hardclaim VT and im ike, gamma claim or we lynch you <3

[Joey_]

wow im so dumb you already claimed!

[Joey_]

i thought you were the one disagreeing

[Joey_]

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2 mefias left !! !!!!!!


@Alisae read PK intereaction with me ! he said he hardtownread me and shaded me in the very very same post, this is a strong tell that PK le mefia isnt aligned with le joeY!!!

[Joey_]

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We have 1 ml left, i think we lynch all those 3 slot and we win

[Joey_]

Acry is the lynch 90% of the time today Joey why do you have him as town.

i updated my read list girl!!!!!!

[Joey_]

-KOKICHI is like because i know deep down in my heart i can sort the guy, its just that im being healthy paranoid. 80% of my read on him is that hes not pr (thus harder to townread cause hes as obviously as town as you are as pr) + he wouldnt try to fight me early because he knows i can read his ass

-Acrylic is a slot i can be wrong on

-Dun showed NOTHING that i can townread, and i know i can hardtownread the slot when he show genuine thought process

[Joey_]

Yes its poe and why do you care about the credibility of my drunk pings? Regardless of the meta i gives you you should know for a fact that my dfrunk pings on you this game are wrong

[Joey_]

(Vote]gamma[/vote] fite me gamma

[Joey_]

VOTE: gamma

[Joey_]

omgus

[Joey_]

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this was your last read on me
I wasn't in your suspect pool, get rekt
VOTE: Joey

do you know what "unsure" means, also i just told you that i was drunk last night and reread, it implies that i looked at the same info with new eyes, i implies that i have new reads, it implies that you voting me for being inconsistent makes no sens

[Joey_]

Yes its poe and why do you care about the credibility of my drunk pings? Regardless of the meta i gives you you should know for a fact that my dfrunk pings on you this game are wrong

Because I'm trying to see if you're actually giving a real read or shitting something out to mislynch me. If you don'r want me to bear down on your ass you'd better provide a reason for me to think they actually matter. And no that's not fucking POE. You posted your reads and there aren't enough townreads for that to be POE.

Gamma you cant lynch me you know that

[Joey_]

wow im so fuckig stupid and forgot mariar's the joat

you literally made a table keeping track of claims dude...

aka alcohol

[Joey_]

Claires not a wolf, alisae why do you woflread me ?????

[Joey_]

Fun vote, if this is not a buss it means that acryl and koki are soft cc hole hole

[Joey_]

Claires not a wolf, alisae why do you woflread me ?????

Okay, can you atleast agree with me on something.
If there is nothing that is claimed that stops a N2 kill, then Claire is an outed wolf.

no, claire's a wolf if the mod do know understand normal guidelines + pinnochio lied and blatantly confirmed that his cc shot scum + claire shooting his partner for gambit value

AKA not happening ever

[Joey_]

do not know*

[Joey_]

I'll buy that wolves ALSO shot Wis
That is if you can convince me WHY wolves shot Wis.
Like what reads did Wis have that were deemed worth shooting him over

1. Why do you think wolves wouldnt want to shoot his ass ?
2. Why do you assume that wolfes eats people because of their reads ?

Wis lead on town but he was fairly unlynchable as long as im alive with mariar. PLUS imo pinnochio is just terrible that im believing he really did shoot wisdom, he felt insulted when i said he was baiting mariar

[Joey_]

Fun vote, if this is not a buss it means that acryl and koki are soft cc hole hole

Acryon claimed vt already I think

soft-cc via poe, not about role

[Joey_]

Like do you think dun survives the game by lynching his buddy on a ML day ? lol i dont think so

[Joey_]

Fun vote, if this is not a buss it means that acryl and koki are soft cc hole hole

Pin could have been roleblocked

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Joey_]

Claires not a wolf, alisae why do you woflread me ?????

Okay, can you atleast agree with me on something.
If there is nothing that is claimed that stops a N2 kill, then Claire is an outed wolf.

no, claire's a wolf if the mod don't know understand normal guidelines + pinnochio lied and blatantly confirmed that his cc shot scum + claire shooting his partner for gambit value

AKA not happening ever

Explain what normal guidelines have to do with claire being a wolf?
I'm not seeing why that has to do with anything but if you can explain it to me that would be nice.

Piano shot Wis, its possible his shot aligned with the factional kill but I don't see why wolves would do that like there is no heart to wolves shooting Wis I think.

This isn't exactly a gambit that Claire would have to bring up either. Pisskop could bring it up. In fact, I think he was likely to do so. The gambit value is A LOT over this coming from someone who HAS done this before (or something similar) and has gotten a don corleone nom over it. It's not the value we're questioning, its if Claire would agree to it if it was presented by someone else. And I think she would.

1. mod giving killing power that can aim at their own faction (aka GIVING VIG SHOT TO SCUM)
2. Pinnochio CONFIRMED he did not shot scum
3. OCCAM RAZOR
??????

[Joey_]

oh please alisae, how can you even think claire'S scum here ? and wis WAS never getting lynched ever

[Joey_]

1. That wasnt my point, honestly i always assumed that you cannot shoot your own scumbuddies with the factionnal night kill maybe im wrong tho. Regardless, this is no efficient lmao and it shouldnt be on the table on a ml day.
2.
3. We cant and wont know if no one comes forward to claim to have something to do with blocking pin or is bp or something. Do you see any bp claim, any jk or town roleblock claim ? no, pin was town and got roleblocked by mefia d1 (or shot bp)
and d2 he shot wisdom imo

[Joey_]

Alisae im being upset because you are talking about infinitesimal odds and plays that are extremely not efficient, claire wouldnt need to shoot her patner there, claire is SK or town and she wouldnt need to hard cc pinnochio as sk.. i dont see it. PLUS claire is player her town game (that could be wrong if shes sk tho)

Like think about it, claire is finally entering her scum chat at nght (assuming night chat only) and saying to her buddies :
Mariar :Hey guys.. ahah !! i cced him for fun but he wasnt lynched !!!! insteand of killing him, lets block him and illl shoot you pk its okay??? They will all think im soooo town and not sk!!!
PK : good idea !!! lets shoot me in the arse when im almost not fosed at all on the table and my flip wont give you any cred whatsoever
???: yea i love me some non-efficient and irrelevant play, i bet joey wont believe it happened and will help mariar in lylo