wasn't Pine solowolfing at the time?In post 2492, Joey_ wrote:i read the game and the scum pt, i dont see any of them mentionning planning to no-nk for town cred
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But you still did it!In post 2494, Kokichi Oma wrote:Also no killing for town cred and no killing and giving town a mislynch is 2 different things| here.GTKAS-
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Kokichi's plan today was to claim doc to get the towncred because he "stopped the kill"
He could have claimed commuter or bp and it would have had the same effect
he was going to plant himself as the "reason" there was no kill to get cred that will help him secure a win for F5 and F3.
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Mechanicly Confimed wolves > WolfreadsIn post 2509, Kokichi Oma wrote:
But, you still think I cant be scum with anyone else. So why does that matterIn post 2507, Alisae wrote:Because I want YOUR lynch first.
I said this before after you flip scum protective that guilties acryon
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Yeah I'm seriousIn post 2531, acryon wrote:
Are you serious?In post 2529, Alisae wrote:
dude the day already endedIn post 2528, acryon wrote:Back. Going to do a read-through today.
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Great I don't want to play with you either after this game and for reasons I'll go into post game!In post 2552, Kokichi Oma wrote:Also If alisae is scum and threatened to replace out if I wasnt lynches I have 0 respect for her and never playing with her again.| here.GTKAS-
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Like I am doing my job as a member of the town by lynching you because you are a wolf.
You "roleswapping" is bullshit and one of my favorite ways to justify claiming other PRs as a wolf because its reasoning that I can always get away with too.
So if you're going to lose respect for me because of how much I absolutely need to for people to see that you are a wolf, then thats fine because of certain actions you performed this game.
Like your play yesterday was so uneedlessly anti-town if that is actually the case because you could have just claimed doctor and get it over with. Instead you did whatever the fuck you did yesterday and flailed around.| here.GTKAS-
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[qoute="MS wiki on Trust Tells]A Trust Tell is a specialized behavior a player may use to "prove" their alignment in any arbitrary game via a personal meta argument. For instance, a player may promise that they are Town if and only if they actually are Town in a game, and will use that self-imposed rule when they draw Town as an argument to confirm their alignment whenever they see fit.
The purpose of a trust tell is not to break it at some point in the future and coast on it to win. It's far more effective to keep it up indefinitely, as it will "prove" the player's alignment in game after game.[/quote]You faking you had a guilty in twilight when you didn't and your crazy FN gambit could have been seen as these since they fit the conditions of- The player insists that they only do this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
- The player, over the course of multiple games, only does this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
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You faking you had a guilty in twilight when you didn't and your crazy FN gambit could have been seen as these since they fit the conditions ofIn post 2574, Alisae wrote:[qoute="MS wiki on Trust Tells"]A Trust Tell is a specialized behavior a player may use to "prove" their alignment in any arbitrary game via a personal meta argument. For instance, a player may promise that they are Town if and only if they actually are Town in a game, and will use that self-imposed rule when they draw Town as an argument to confirm their alignment whenever they see fit.
The purpose of a trust tell is not to break it at some point in the future and coast on it to win. It's far more effective to keep it up indefinitely, as it will "prove" the player's alignment in game after game.- The player insists that they only do this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
- The player, over the course of multiple games, only does this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
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Fucking quote tags.In post 2575, Alisae wrote:In post 2574, Alisae wrote:
You faking you had a guilty in twilight when you didn't and your crazy FN gambit could have been seen as these since they fit the conditions ofMS wiki on Trust Tells wrote:A Trust Tell is a specialized behavior a player may use to "prove" their alignment in any arbitrary game via a personal meta argument. For instance, a player may promise that they are Town if and only if they actually are Town in a game, and will use that self-imposed rule when they draw Town as an argument to confirm their alignment whenever they see fit.
The purpose of a trust tell is not to break it at some point in the future and coast on it to win. It's far more effective to keep it up indefinitely, as it will "prove" the player's alignment in game after game.- The player insists that they only do this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
- The player, over the course of multiple games, only does this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
But point aside, I rather lynch you because I don't think people had recognized it yet over getting you modkilled for it, because that's somethingactualscum would do.| here.GTKAS-
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Like you're not going to be fun to play with until these tells are burnt to the ground, and I certainly didn't have fun pushing you either because of this, and it was kind of why I was extremely angry.
You communicating to trust you could have been because you have laid out the trust tells needed to confirm your alignment.
I'm sorry for the way I pushed you, but it was because I had reason to believe you dropped a trust tell, and luckily I am a wolf. If I was town I probably would have replaced out because it would be for the integrity of the game, plus I probably might not have cared as much if I was actually town?
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Garry Oma I have no reason to lie to you now the game is over and I am talking to you in a civilized manor about this because I have enough respect (as little as that may be) to approach you about this instead of getting you modkilled and banned by taking this up to a list mod, because that's a shitty way to win the game.
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a VT or even argueably anyone BUT rask N1 we would have been in trouble.
Especially if we didn't block Pint successfully.
Like ffs make the cop Macho and give us a JK and maybe this would have been somewhat tolerable.
Or Roleblocker/Rolestopper
Or Rolestoper/Rolecop
Just SOMETHING because this is so follow the cop with 2 extra clears from gamestart too because of the vigs.| here.GTKAS-
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But yeah
Dunn should stop playing mafia.
Joey was fucking terrible.
Pint tbh made extremely good shots and ywall extremely overestimate how strong Wis' scumgame is like its on RC's leve at his peak he is just an extremely overpowered wolf and if he was only lynching town I would have suggested to lynch him before LyLo because of his reputation it doesn't really matter how obvtown he is.
I <3 Wis and Claire and Torque except I didn't read any Torque posts sorry.
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Have a fun retirementIn post 2423, Joey_ wrote:Alisea cannot be mafia, if shes scum i never play this game ever| here.GTKAS-
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Voting Town
And another Townie
I thought I quoted an unvote but I guess not so treat this as the post where you unvotedIn post 1212, Joey_ wrote:
you fucking kidding me lolIn post 1139, pinturicchio wrote:I'm a one shot vigilante. I shot acryon last night and he didn't dievoting town again
unvote
voting townIn post 1744, Joey_ wrote:VOTE: pin you deserve to lose the game for your faction for that shot alone, that is freaking ridiculousmore town votes
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And honestly
the tryharding wasn't even that needed.
the only reason why me and Acryon didn't block Dunn N3 is because we literally forgot about his existence.
So like even without it, I just have to make sure Gamma wasn't lynched and that would allow a wolf win. That's the heart behind everything I did yesterday.
Turned out it played a lot more better then I ever expected it to be.
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Yeah yeah we're still cool I think
just don't be like that Garry Oma fucker and start trust telling.
pedit: I think your error was you underestimate people's abilities. Kiana is extremely good at wolf, so that supposed townslip could easily have been faked.
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I would have shown you several instances where I've done the exact samething and even won those games, including Spyro which you were my hydra partner forIn post 2601, Joey_ wrote:i wasnt lynching koki today with his entrance btw, it removed everything that was shady about the slot earlier (the lies)| here.GTKAS-
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I think I played well and I earned my win sure. And this might have been my best wolfgame on site maybe?In post 2610, Joey_ wrote:you are happy with your win/game (and thats fine)
But I feel disgusted with the win and actually hate myself for it.
But I'm a shitty person so that's okay I guess.
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I mean, you could have used that wording to signal that you trust told here
and with your FN gambit stupidity that is also a trust tell for you.In post 1784, Kokichi Oma wrote:In the event I have a guilty. Should i claim it now?
Its up to you to burn it, and you should probably burn it anyways because its bad play.| here.GTKAS-
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Like Kokichi
this is sitebannable and modkillable.
You do this shit when you want to attract a kill towards yourself.
Luckily, anyone that is competent will look at that post, see that it was made in twilight, see that you have also posted during the phase, and go "Yeah this guy is just trying to bait a kill."
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Like this is something that's reportable if you think I am bluffing for whatever reason then your welcome to call it but I feel like this is the best way to approach you about the issue so you can work on burning it without consequence.| here.GTKAS-
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I mean yeah and these post cover thatIn post 2576, Alisae wrote:
Fucking quote tags.In post 2575, Alisae wrote:In post 2574, Alisae wrote:
You faking you had a guilty in twilight when you didn't and your crazy FN gambit could have been seen as these since they fit the conditions ofMS wiki on Trust Tells wrote:A Trust Tell is a specialized behavior a player may use to "prove" their alignment in any arbitrary game via a personal meta argument. For instance, a player may promise that they are Town if and only if they actually are Town in a game, and will use that self-imposed rule when they draw Town as an argument to confirm their alignment whenever they see fit.
The purpose of a trust tell is not to break it at some point in the future and coast on it to win. It's far more effective to keep it up indefinitely, as it will "prove" the player's alignment in game after game.- The player insists that they only do this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
- The player, over the course of multiple games, only does this behavior as a certain alignment, and never as any other alignment.
But point aside, I rather lynch you because I don't think people had recognized it yet over getting you modkilled for it, because that's somethingactualscum would do.First off, it can be any alignment not just town. For example a wolf trust tell could be you always selfhammer at L-1, so optimal play would be to run that player up to L-1 to see if they selfhammer.
It has to fit those conditions yes?
The reason why he does those gambits is because he wants to die.
Wolves don't want to die they want to live.
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Yeah and Ellibereth is probably winning paragon today because he has a database on a lot of people that consists of meta tells.In post 2624, Joey_ wrote:PEDIT : Alisae not doing something as mafia doesnt mean its a trust tell if you do it as town, i bet my ass everyone and their moms only do some kind of behaviors as either alignement, its the premise of the game.
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Did a more extensive search
viewtopic.php?p=9528138#p9528138 - This is where Garry first a similar play on MS that made me think it was a trust tell because I saw him fake guilties more often but I guess he did it less then I thought.
I already linked the FN bullshit
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