Mini 1997: The Clownspiracy (Game Over!)

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if it's wrong though block has to go through or else game is kinda over though. koki-kaito maybe was overly paranoid and does seem unlikely but if town their reads are awful and beefmaki prob dont get lynched and win

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be easier if the main was public, don't really think koki is gerryoats tbh

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VOTE: bu l-1

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what is the double wagon debate

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I thought that sounded familiar
its from 2108

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thats how you know you isod someone too many times...

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if bu kaito kaito is maybe giveuptrolling as in that case game is almost over (roleblocks win game if scumlynch pretty much)
dont know why he'd push stef seriously but just troll comment on bu when he was scumreading him earlier

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Bah.

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Mmm. Should've pushed beef harder d2. Next time need sheep on beef instead of "association" scumreaderino (I will almost never lynch someone d1 without letting them claim).
I'm kinda sad wh4t replaced out lol. Wh4t stefan and me were supposed to be the townbloc (also wtf these nightkills you're not supposed to kill my d1 super townread VT CLAIM that's not fair).

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Bujaber as scum probably could've prevented the kiana lynch d1 by not hammering (normally that's not the case, but here I really don't think anyone else would've) and I think it would've been worth the extra sus. Issue is saying "I will lynch it's between that and no-lynch" was committing to the stance ahead of time, and I guess let people force you into it and not have to worry about doing another wagon to prevent nolynch. Yes it might have felt super scummy for you but there were so many people pushing the same thing that you would have blended in.

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Still good effort by bu, lot of what hurt him seemed to be the role thing, claiming d2 and not dying (and that early claim was partially because he was busy irl and couldn't defend himself afaik?) which there isn't much you can do against.

GG WP to everyone. Thanks for modding mathdino!

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Miller in game with no cop nice meme btw.

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So BTW my guess for kiana is that they were a iraonavp/expedience alt. To start off with, given they clearly aren't FA and that's the only female ban I remember, I think despite kiana pronoun it was either neutral or he pronoun user.
I was interested so thought of this a bit. Even before the event the kind of 0-reconsideration ridiculous read style I've seen maybe once or twice ever and reminded me of
a) someone who plays a lot and is well known, who I was wondering was the main at the time as kiana seemed to be an alt anyways, but they were both in a mutual game playing together so this was ruled out
b) iraonvp's bs scumread/push style in viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68380 (but it just reminded me at that point, kiana was not banned yet)

Given that, when seeing the ban, I thought of the pool of permabanned likely suspects (F16/alts, shotty, iraon/expedience, house/grey, reaper/langbuddhas, maybe narna again, there are others like accountant and must-not-be-mentioned and way more but idk how likely they're to ban evade to play mafia) and the style this game seemed like it'd be a clear fit for iraon but not so much elsewhere (funny enough I think I played with all listed except reaper, though that's probably why they're the names to come to mind).
On review the play of extreme BS push style matches up very well, furthermore the language seems to have many similarities. I think even vocally I get the impression kiana was very close to saying "town-aligned" a bunch of times (say of speaking some people have but iraon was notorious) but stopped themself. The very rigid, unnatural sentence structure is a huge thing too. Finally the exclamation marks and exuding a feeling of almost glee at pushing BS I think is a very very distinct thing to feel from a post and it definitely gives me the same vibe as here. Though, it is still possible I'm wrong as that is still a huge group of possible people and there'd be a ton of incentive to hide stylistic things in that kind of alt (is this the applied scumhunting?).

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Miller in a game without Cop nothing new. Makes everyone suspicios about Maki, so not pointless.

Yeah I know it's just a nice meme like fruit vendor. I was hoping for a cop (or JOAT having a 1-shot-cop) right up until massclaim because of it though

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Lol getting nkd over conftowns tho