Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

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quack quack

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VOTE: Keyser Söze

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Sup Gamma, nice to finally play with you. how've you been?

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good to be here

are you town bernie?

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because he has a red role pm ofc why else?

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where's Mr. Söze on your reads list?

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I was reading the game

because the rapping is

and soft mind melded with Gemini a couple of times so the slot was too good to pass up

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good to be here

are you town bernie?

For better or worse

That is a huge relief

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Mr. Söze pinged me during catchup I'll calibrate my reads a bit better then see if I feel like lobbying for his lynch

what is the strength of your read roughly, like 0% being null and 100% being cop cleared

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lol no one

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oh I was memeing about my less than great reads but there is actually no one on this list I have a history of reading particularly well

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skitter30 and I have been t/t plenty and tend to work well together. I tend to just dump math in the town bin and sort him later and that generally works for me (as he's generally town). but lots of people I don't have history with and those I do know I'm p bad with

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how so?

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I'm awkward on first dates and replace ins. Here I thought we were getting along

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are those Q's directed at me?

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hi the worst I think we played spyfall one time

Hi irrelephant we sure did

Why is Skitter scum

I have the faintest whisper of a townlean on skitter atm

What is Nauci

null

Who don’t you want lynched today?

great question

You, Bernie and Math. there's others who I think are mechanically a pretty bad lynch d1 if that's what you're asking?



pedit: @Gamma good point. though I died shortly after you replaced in

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Mr. Söze pinged me during catchup I'll calibrate my reads a bit better then see if I feel like lobbying for his lynch

what is the strength of your read roughly, like 0% being null and 100% being cop cleared

haven't really looked into him (or most people) as of yet tbh but he's been working along what I like to see for now
you catch up and I hear NSG more invis more skitter and maybe even some gamma and I'll do a second pass on people who seem okay-for-now if nothing terribly intriguing comes up

okay fair take. I'm still voteparking this until someone irks me more

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I'm back whaddup

initial ping was his treatment of Shoshin thru rvs/early game. also got the feeling he's avoiding town hunting and leaving avenues open for later. haven't really seen anything in there that screams town to me so far.

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mmkay interesting. do you have experience with key?

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welcome back! o/

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Gemini asked people to elaborate when reading!me was like "yeah I'm not totally sure I see those reads" which was a solid start. her commentary on your comnon sense defence of rvs math was good too (this game pwned rvs)

considering how young this game is I think I've pretty much seen what I'd expect from town!you if that makes sense? like its not a strong read lol, what makes you ask?

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catchups are hard. I try and have as much of an opinion as I can but there isn't much to go by yet.

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do you have any particularly strong reads yet?
and how do you feel about Keyser?

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Bernie Sanders struck me as very towny during catchup and I'm pretty attached to that read still. Irrelephant is good as well.

Stungun I've been struggling with in particular, do you see anything particularly town telling yet?

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I like Gamma better than Mom ATM from that bottom reads list. Both are not easy reads.

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Mom just hasn't really said anything AI. the only thing she's doing is voteparking Invisibility.

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Invisibility actually feels more lucid than usual and I have no idea how to interpret that

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I have no thoughts on invisibility

I want to get this quote framed.

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it's ok, we've got a while for me to towntell

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I might kinda follow you on the Stungun read.

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fair enough

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VOTE: Momrangal

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I get a very natural impression of how he's gathering and processing information, he just kinda flows. It's just a thought process thing. It's possible I'm underestimating him on the basis of hidden alt and so forth but he just really struck me as above board.

how are you viewing him atm?

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o hai new pages.

I'll probably read after work. Anything spicy?

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Are people scumreading Bernie here?

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momrangel really needs to start talking about other players, not just Invisibility

Would you say she is a competent town/scum player?

Personally, yes/yes
I'm somewhat surprised seeing her tunnel lynchbait as EITHER alignment

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where's your head at on her? Haven't read back but just shot thru your ISO and you seem to be dancing around her

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I don't wanna townread you, you're a usual suspect

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you should be sorry!!
I don't feel like re wagoning you rn. If my gut was right we're probably not catching you d1 anyway.

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If I'm correct:

Yes I can vouch for it
No I don't want to go into tells in great detail

but I strongly suspect Mr. Sanders is town

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I don'ttttttt think so but I'm newish
If I was scum and saw someone obviously playing into what I identify as their towngame I would vouch for them ya

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Yo brass want a pagetop?

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gotchu fam

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Hmmm you don't trust me enough for me to answer this question cryptically so
No.

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I'm kinda coming around on you Mr. Söze

But I swear to fucking god if I vote someone else in LyLo then drop a coffee cup I am gonna lose my shit

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Oh yeah I read Shoshin as yikes level lynchbait and your push was scummy

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FTR you're more likely town than Shoshin atm I'm just not happy about it

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duckling, you feel a lot more ... reserved than you usually do. Or like, out of it, or, like, less *present*. Idk how to say that better.

do you or do you not know who BS is?

I've read half the game.

Yeah I have a very strong suspicion on who BS is.

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Oh yeah I read Shoshin as yikes level lynchbait and your push was scummy

FTR you're more likely town than Shoshin atm I'm just not happy about it

So what I'm getting out of this is:
Shoshin reads as lynchbait
Keyser pushing Shoshin is bad
Keyser still reads town otherwise
Am I correct?

Did at game start yeah

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duckling, you feel a lot more ... reserved than you usually do. Or like, out of it, or, like, less *present*. Idk how to say that better.

do you or do you not know who BS is?

I've read half the game.

Yeah I have a very strong suspicion on who BS is.

It's not a tough task if you know who to ask
Gonna sit here and bask, knowing BS is

Spoiler:

a mask

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Sup
I was right
Normally can't call alts to save myself, our very recent discussion about how we both play was extremely convenient

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I can't work out if skitter feels off because she's scum of because she's tunneling me. This is not a great point in our friendship for her to try and tone read me as a hard scumread.

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also post reveal Bernie Sanders remains probably my strongest townread I think

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probs yeah
Stun reads well but I'm reserving judgement a teeny bit.

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feeling casual and relaxed? that doesn't sound like me at all.

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bro are you reading the thread
BS sounds nothing like Boon

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no hot meta

also what??
I love the rapdino shtick but please don't use it as an excuse not to pay attention

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I'll take it

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bro are you reading the thread
BS sounds nothing like Boon

no hot meta

also what??
I love the rapdino shtick but please don't use it as an excuse not to pay attention

What about the reveal is such an appeal
Why do you feel he's town with such zeal
(people said he might be boon
I wanted to give that convo some room)

while reading I very very quickly worked out who BS is, coincidentally we've recently had a reasonably detailed discussion about how we approach the game plus I've had the honour of lurking one of his very recent towngames

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lurking = reading

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Shoshin re-read 609

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if you want anything strikingly exciting from me you'll probably have to wait for later this week / weekend, understand the wagon given gamestate tho

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Fam I haven't even gotten going yet.

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I said he was town not that he had good reads

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TW who do you think is scum?
if deadline was right now I want some names of who would you lynch and in what order

also interested in your momrangal read, I read it you saying she's NAI and voting my impression was as pressure but then she did content and I haven't seen you respond/update there

you're correct my Mom vote was mostly pressure. her response didn't rock my world so I'm gonna need to spend some time processing it.

kinda not an easy question to answer right now but maybe something like Mom > Gamma > Nauci right now, but my scumreads are currently the slots I also feel the most bland about...which has me realising I'll be deeply boring until I have more time.

Math nsg and skitter are viable scumspects but I have really low interest in pushing either of the 3 currently

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need more posts brass?

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duckling, when you have a chance can you talk about this a bit more? I'm actually really confused wrt to the tonereading thing.

literally no sorry

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I BELIEVE IN YOU BRASS.......

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HI NAUCI!!!!

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master of bullshitting

....you know me so well

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Side note, I think that putting the worst under a lot of pressure makes him very sortable, but this is mostly based on the one instance where Mathdino hounded him until the end of the earth one game, to great results.

this will 100% sort my level of interest in the game
and 50% sort my alignment

I'm telling you rn if you wagon me to L-1 nothing will change.

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Hmmm I'm holding out til this catchup is done

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491 My rule of thumb that I absolutely don't vouch for is that, when heavily pressured, scum!tw becomes exponentially more dodgy/bullshitter, and slightly more serious as town. (based on one game w/ him and skimming a couple of others)

*takes notes*

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578[/post//[post]583 I post this kind of crap when I'm unmotivated scum so it's hard not to read it this way

Not very nice to call brass' opening post unmotivated and crap!

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not gonna happen. what's your intention in applying unnecessary pressure when I literally don't have the capacity to rock your world rn?

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same bruh

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I'm in "everyone voting me but Bernie could easily be scum and I don't currently know where to go next" mode. I also don't have time to sort thru them or take the time to analyse Mom's last few posts, but my gut is telling me Nauci is not town here.

So... chill.

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@The Worst: PRETTY SUPER DUPER PLEASE tell us what those couple of mind meld moments with Gemini you mentioned were? That was a pretty big dollop of potentially "yeah this sounds good" bull to drop and I'm not letting you go on that one. It doesn't take any time or bandwidth to think about and contribute to the game with because clearly you've either already thought about what they are or should just come clean about making it up.

I did check my early ISO
she had like 2 posts and both of them were like "saem bro"
honestly can't give you more than that

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VOTE: Nauci

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guess who's #1 on my list of people we aren't lynching today

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uh pardon me since when do you know me well enough that you can tell what's fake from me? o.0

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don't give me that phoney AtE crap. if you think it's fake tell me why you think it's fake. the fact you're trying to call me out on a personality thing when you don't know me is g r o s s

but also most of the player list just feels totally resigned with my lunch. like if I was revealed as IC where would people even go?

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I mean, I'm pretty sure I said earlier that I don't want to lynch you right now because you said you think you'll be more engaged later in the week and that I'll wait till then, and that I switched off your wagon because of it.

I did pick this... there's a small handful of players on the list who seem to actually want to sort me rather than compromise lynch.

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(:

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D3 hammer was gr8 too

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I'm like 15 pages of splotchy reading behind but Nauci is not feeling like town!Nauci.

if I was active lurking as scum I'd go closer to the prodge range, as much as I love charismatic spamming it is an awful strat when you want to be townread.

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dude...

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I'm staying in touch with the current goings on because falling out of touch means I have MORE critical rereading to do and I hate critical rereading

also this is like time while bored at work, so cognisant loosely of current gamestate but also don't have the consistent time/energy/inclination to try and do a solid catchup in few-minute blocks.

like I'm happy to start mastina wallposting if you want but the quality will he substantially lower than if I do it my way

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I'd be surprised if this surprises you actually, it's literally playstyle clarification

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Gn friend o/

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that comment was irony tinted, I'm gonna play my way.

basically I'm not sure what you want to get from me out of this convo. like its fairly normal for me to keep up activity itt even when I'm behind in reading and I haven't had the energy for a decent catchup. Sorry

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I don't dislike your continued push on me much, I just think you're caught up on playstyle stuff. this is normal catch up me I think? have a look at gunner mafia (large theme) if that's a decent comparison. I literally skipped like 40 pages of that game because I was entertaining family from overseas and managed to come back with SHEER VIRTUE OF TOWNINESS later

you're still town though and this conversation is townie from you, I just think you're reading too much into me.

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again this sounds eerily like playstyle differences

goodnight :>

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right?

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good

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don't give me that phoney AtE crap. if you think it's fake tell me why you think it's fake. the fact you're trying to call me out on a personality thing when you don't know me is g r o s s

but also most of the player list just feels totally resigned with my lunch. like if I was revealed as IC where would people even go?

You still sound like you’re in defence-mode, not scum-hunting mode

‘

The best defense is a good offense

’ - Kevin Spacey

and?

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Nauci is not feeling like town!Nauci.

What is "town!Nauci"?

= "Nauci when she's town"

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Welcome Gustavo o/

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and?

I want you to 'rock my world'.

Nauci is not feeling like town!Nauci.

What is "town!Nauci"?

= "Nauci when she's town"

What is "town!Nauci"?

town!Nauci = Nauci when she's town

Workin on part 1

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Keyser no offence bro but you're becoming an active annoyance to play with. I'll catch up when I catch up and respond to your posts when I can. Are you actually just like lockscumreading me or is there some personal reason you continually prod and throw shade at my slot?

Dead set I've solemnly sworn under the Order of the Brass Herald not to replace out of games ever but I do not blame people for being like "lol fuck these pages" at this point.

I'm struggling to form townreads without sheeping at this point which is killing motivation further. Sorry to ruin your day but I'm town and I'm not getting mislynched today. Stop positioning me for a mislynch and move on to something else.

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like every time I open the thread it's more pages of people talking in circles, I have IRL and other commitments so I'll get around to effortposting at some point.

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hmm otherwise I could abandon the first 36 pages and start trying now

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I don't want a 1500 page essay. Simply two or three sentences to say why Nauci isn't town Nauci in your opinion, then I leave you.

so what impressed me about Nauci's playstyle when I was scum vs. her was how transparently conspicuously town she was. she was constantly critical, open minded and worked well with others townies.

she feels less attached and engaged here and I cannot shake the feeling that her posting is pushing an agenda and specific preconceived stances rather than actively forming opinions fluidly as she goes.

if that makes sense??

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town!Nauci would mean "Nauci when she's town",

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can't aim this morning

, the specific use of it in any one post is open to context. can relate to previous game experience or town meta or w/e

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tis indeed a good mafia theory post

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it's okay, right back atcha.

I just felt misrepped because I am not posting random stuff and don't do that as either alignment I just don't feel like I've had the time or the opportunity to actually present myself. you're fine I need to put more effort into obvtowning.

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Nauci how do you rate your reads on powerful playstyles generally? do you tunnel as town?

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Mmkay. Your current take on Irrelephant feels tunnelled but I'm starting to suspect that's influenced by how hard Shoshin is pushing you to help her sort him. Keen for your Mom and Gamma reads.

pedit: NOT_MAFIAAAAA WHAT'S NEW?!?!

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I look forward to playing this set-up again when my consciousness has been uploaded into a machine and the roles include Ted Nugent, Joe Arpaio and Snooki

wanna comod POTUS2130 mafia?

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Shoshin do you have some examples of scumgames?

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Nauci

Why did you vote nauci immediately after math did with absolutely no reason for it and hardly any mention of him prior?

VOTE: shoshin

He’s not a team player. I ask him a few questions and he flails and votes me.

By his own definition of what scum is, he’s guilty of being scum.

I’ll see y’all day 2.

does this not strike you as a situation scum!Shoshin would try to avoid being in though?

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1st quote was accidental

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Shoshin do you have some examples of scumgames?

There's one on this site. My scum play looks nothing like my play in this game. It's not even close.

I'm not asking for your evaluation, there's a couple of things I want to check. Do you have some off-site games you can throw me a link to?

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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76221 - me as scum
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76303 - me as town

Gustavo was in both games. He should know better than to vote me here. The way he's misrepresenting what I'm saying shows a pretty strong desire to characterize my play in the worst possible light. No way he's town here.

just caught this too. thanks.

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I don't want a 1500 page essay. Simply two or three sentences to say why Nauci isn't town Nauci in your opinion, then I leave you.

so what impressed me about Nauci's playstyle when I was scum vs. her was how transparently conspicuously town she was. she was constantly critical, open minded and worked well with others townies.

she feels less attached and engaged here and I cannot shake the feeling that her posting is pushing an agenda and specific preconceived stances rather than actively forming opinions fluidly as she goes.

if that makes sense??

is this useful?

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have fun Nauci o/

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That'd ruin the surprise. I should actually be able to look into this in good time but if not I'll just talk to you about it.

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TW: you've played with Gus, right? What's your opinion of this stubbornness?

I haven't played with Gus before I've just read some of his games! He's not a popular boi and he's always stubborn

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I'm bored os anuone around?

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Hey the worst, any thoughts on Errant?

there's a very specific reason I'm not talking about the NSGslot much here

EP's contribution... his catchup was kinda ok but felt largely consensusey. I'd be kinda curious to see his reason for townreading me but temporarily willing to put that down to being psychic until further notice
there's really nothing there that I find particularly alignment-telling, just kinda obligatory. maybe +1% scum equity for feeling safe/survivalitic but not going there yet

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A lot more engagement how? If I need to be more engaged, what the fuck do you want from me? If others need to be more engaged with me that's placing the burden of removing the scumread on other people which isn't fair to me because regardless of what I do if no one else does what you want "oh no one is engaging with him, SCUM!!!!"

Doing quick activity checks to determine if anyone could be scum due to the stall
Mathdino hasn't posted since posting here
Not_Mafia has DEFINITELY been active elsewhere, thinking this might actually be mafia
the worst has been active elsewhere, plus despite being bored at one point has not tried to engage since then, probably scum
Shoshin has been very active in one other game, this might be passable but still sketchy
VOTE: the worst
Still definitely want to keep talking with Gustavo but he's actually provided signs that he's not bsing so I don't like the vote as much, and given the compilation of things against the worst I think he's the best vote rn

VOTE: Gamma

scum with 1+ of the other people he's shaded in 1294.

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also L-1

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UNVOTE:

L-2 for ^ this while I catch up proper

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also Gamma has watched scum!me and knows lurking is not scum indicative for me.

I've had a serious week sorting out some career stuff irl. also slightly overgamed. I've been slacking in games I'm less invested in (not elaborating obviously).

the dude literally knows I do not actively make the decision to lurk as scum, so I do not know why he's pushing that angle. >.>

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1218 WIFOMy as fuck but I actually kinda agree that Gamma's scumflip spews Gustavo as town.

Keyser's take on Irrelephant/self TvT read my mind. actually being itt both of them feel legit.

1231 doesn't feel like town reacting to a case scum is making on them. @Gamma do you feel grossly misrepped by town!Key or actually think scum!Key is pushing you? it feels like you're not really willing to commit to either take?

nauci is probably town too

super interested in why you think this, the nullness of my read on Nauci is like. nibbling at the back of my skull.

i kinda want a mom wagon to be a thing

my gut's screaming that gamma is a mislynch. it doesn't really feel like a wagon on scum to me

what part of the wagon composition is bugging you? note for myself to reconsider this.

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I'll give you credit for saying it first
But yeah I'm not a big fan of the worst
In other news, I caught a towntell on Nauci
I'm sadly still scumreading her but I won't be as bossy

The worst or Gamma Emerald, those are my two picks
Gimme better wagons, it's how I get my kicks

VOTE: GEmerald

good take and literally consistent with how town!Dino treats my slot
I'm taking my usual approach here and just treating Math as maybe?town because he'll probably be sorted by night actions.
at the same time I'm not really seeing scum!Dino tactics here. he's been low site activity recently but scum!Dino consistently plays with a greater agenda. like if Math is scum here I don't see what he's doing.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I have to go to bed but this wagon is pretty overdue by now

Bernie I've spoken about to death, still a townread.

VOTE: Gamma

Shoshin lower on read list but also swinging back to townleaning. her interactions with wagons and reactions to pressure have been reasonably consistent with town!Shoshin. I don't think she's even close to outside of her scumrange but I really doubt I'd be able to nail scum!Shosh without more information than we have rn.

VOTE: Gamma

Not_Mafia.

VOTE: gamma

The fact he’s not voted all game and his first vote is on me and his reason basically implies he knows I’m town is a red flag for me

I can’t be scum who doesn’t give a shit if I’m wrong. I’m fairly obviously town. He’s not scum hunting imo.

hard read: Gamma and Gustavo are not the same alignment.
I'll be fairly surprised if I'm wrong here but Gamma has not treated the Gustavo slot well at all. Gustavo is consistently prickly as either alignment IME so I doubt I'm going to get a solid read on him--stun on the other hand I'd be seriously fucking impressed with his late posting if he was scum.

bluntly if we're looking at scum in {stungun/Gustavo, Gamma}...lol




just from cursory wagon review I'm reading it as
{Bernie, Gustavo}
{Math}
{Shosh}
{NM}
{}
{}

I don't have a strong read on NM yet and in a sec will check if Math does. but this actually feels like a really well composed wagon.

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Holy balls N_M is here
If he posts then there's no fear
I'm really sorry for ghosting y'all
My sitewide posting has slowed to a crawl
I'll stop rhyming when I can sit down and write
Until then I still think a Gamvote is right

........same

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update:
I am happy with my nullread on Not_Mafia

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Shoshin lower on read list but also swinging back to townleaning. her interactions with wagons and reactions to pressure have been reasonably consistent with town!Shoshin. I don't think she's even close to outside of her scumrange but I really doubt I'd be able to nail scum!Shosh without more information than we have rn.

just to elaborate on this.
there is just not enough available to have a good feel for Shosh's scumrange which is why I'm approaching her with extreme caution. her only scumgame onsite was super weak (no offence Shosh).

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I have a very similar scumtell (every post I make has a screaming subtext of "GET ME OUT OF HEEREE")

just for good measure, do you have offsite scumgames you're able to link at all?

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alright I can work with my current read for now I think.

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ftr I really need to talk to Skitter rn

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Why aren't you townreading the worst anymore, EP?

^ this is a good question--why were you townreading me in the first place?

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I have a very similar scumtell (every post I make has a screaming subtext of "GET ME OUT OF HEEREE")

just for good measure, do you have offsite scumgames you're able to link at all?

This is kinda exactly how you’re coming across (“get me out of heeree”)

oh, I'm sorry you can't toneread me

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I'm more or less caught up and actually feel reasonably comfortable with myself in the current gamestate so I'll be around for more readable content. :>

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hmm I kinda get what you mean. it's definitely stalled and taken too long but I still feel like it's a solid and well intended wagon. :/

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uhh haven't really thought about it
you're not very pocketable so probably just sheep you

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I'm town if that helps at all

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I have an opinion if it's worth anything

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well I was meaning gamma/shoshin but obviously I mean both

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why do you not want to vote with NM?

gut says maybe you rn?

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Mom is town tho

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794 and surrounding were solid af fmpov. like I am not a fan of how I was positioned as scum for my predecessor and irl busyness here. it crossed my mind several times that I was an easy af push for scum to hide behind, and I found Mom seeing things exactly the same way.

either she's town or has me pocketed hard but I'm not sure what scum!Mom's method is in WKing me here

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besides honestly that's just the wrong track. Gamma is just not town here, and it's seriously gross the way you're pussyfooting around his lynch.

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yeah but why are you asking me to remove context from my reads on people? :/

Irrelephant11/TW/whomever else was planning to hammer: can we wait to see if Math/NM respond to prods in time? Which is a minimum of 12 hours from now, I think?

obviously

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794 and surrounding were solid af fmpov. like I am not a fan of how I was positioned as scum for my predecessor and irl busyness here. it crossed my mind several times that I was an easy af push for scum to hide behind, and I found Mom seeing things exactly the same way.

either she's town or has me pocketed hard but I'm not sure what scum!Mom's method is in WKing me here

I kinda feel like I've already addressed this fam :<
not really seeing the scum motivation there. like sure if we get some flips I'm always open to reconsidering my reads but I'm not currently seeing a reason to knock her down?

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get some sleep Nauci <3

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good call

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A lot more engagement how? If I need to be more engaged, what the fuck do you want from me? If others need to be more engaged with me that's placing the burden of removing the scumread on other people which isn't fair to me because regardless of what I do if no one else does what you want "oh no one is engaging with him, SCUM!!!!"

Doing quick activity checks to determine if anyone could be scum due to the stall
Mathdino hasn't posted since posting here
Not_Mafia has DEFINITELY been active elsewhere, thinking this might actually be mafia
the worst has been active elsewhere, plus despite being bored at one point has not tried to engage since then, probably scum
Shoshin has been very active in one other game, this might be passable but still sketchy
VOTE: the worst
Still definitely want to keep talking with Gustavo but he's actually provided signs that he's not bsing so I don't like the vote as much, and given the compilation of things against the worst I think he's the best vote rn

VOTE: Gamma

scum with 1+ of the other people he's shaded in 1294.

UNVOTE:

L-2 for ^ this while I catch up proper

this doesn't make you look any better
this means you reacted to my vote with OMGUS before catching up

this makes me want to revote x(

[the worst]

Hamma Emerald

Mathdino/the worst, talk to me here: what do you make of NM's activity this game?

I don't have a solid read on NM yet. Invisibility was literally just Invisibility. I'll have a better gauge on NM after a couple of flips imo but he's sitting null.

what's your take on his play here?

[the worst]

My experience with Nm is he’s useless and never actually plays the game. He literally does nothing to help town

He actually has good reads as town, just is rarely interested in pushing them aggressively.

BTW assuming you're an alt--have I played with your main? maybe twice as TvS?

[the worst]

My experience with Nm is he’s useless and never actually plays the game. He literally does nothing to help town

How does he not get PLed every game

Wat

bc he's hilarious
(also really good as tpr and has good reads sue me)

[the worst]

> calls Gamma and Nauci partners
> Gamma and Nauci start a PL wagon at EOD to avert from Gamwagon

this is almost too good
almost

[the worst]

okay seriously the guy often votes well lategame and becomes substantially more readable as we get flips

please please tell me you guys are drunk

[the worst]

The only people who really commit to PL’s on me are the noobs and the desperate, and Gamma ain’t no noob

QFT

[the worst]

My experience with Nm is he’s useless and never actually plays the game. He literally does nothing to help town

He actually has good reads as town, just is rarely interested in pushing them aggressively.

BTW assuming you're an alt--have I played with your main? maybe twice as TvS?

I doubt we’ve played but could be. Been a couple years.

Nah I was mistaken, if you've been inactive for a couple of years. I'm a n00b.

[the worst]

who are the scum that positioned your slot for a lynch?

re-read my ISO
literally said the idea crossed my mind, net all things I didn't find anyone particularly scummy for it. the way Bernie pushed it was a bit icky but he's already a hard townread.

still means I find it townie for someone to reach the same conclusion.

[the worst]

actually skitter just reread my ISO.

you're falling down my list for the leading questions up there. I'm not answering any of them because the answers are already ITT. it surprises me you haven't already parsed why I'm not on the Gamma wagon and why I find Mom townie.

[the worst]

duckling your posts are scumpinging me

like throwaway comments like this combined with asking questions which the answers to are already sitting in the last like 3 or 4 pages is seriously not like you.

[the worst]

all in good time, some stuff I won't talk about d1 anyway

[the worst]

i find general stances like 'i think scum may have positioned my slot for a lynch but i don't find anyone particularly scummy for it' to be incredibly scummy. it's vaguely shade-throwing an entire group of group of people without every directing that suspicion at a particular person.

okay but this isn't my stance at all

[the worst]

that's my exact stance

like it crossed my mind that it would be easy for scum to hide behind the push on me so I checked it out. Bernie's push felt the grossest to me but I'm assisted by the fact that I have sweet sweet tells and would be very surprised if he's scum here.

Mom didn't have those tells so the fact she reached the same conclusion I did is actually really telling for me.

[the worst]

nah not really

that's what I've been saying

[the worst]

welcome back fam
no rhymes?

[the worst]

what do you need? I honestly kinda skipped a bit of d1

[the worst]

Bahahaha what

Who is Ranmaru

I guess I’m flattered? Hahahahaha

Be flattered Ranmaru is a great lad

[the worst]

uh what am I meant to reply to?

[the worst]

o ye
VOTE: Gamma

[the worst]

more importantly it flips red

[the worst]

fake hammer tho

[the worst]

valuable ~56 hours for sure.

[the worst]

viewtopic.php?p=9985240#p9985240

perfect

[the worst]

I'm still really not feeling the notion that the Gamma wagon is on town. :/ kinda need to hear more on his reads tho whoever asked why Math is town is smart

[the worst]

I'm still really not feeling the notion that the Gamma wagon is on town. :/ kinda need to hear more on his reads tho whoever asked why Math is town is smart

Are you pocketing me? I feel like maybe you are.

no I was only half awake when reading
but I'll send you flowers and chocolates anyway

[the worst]

he's been offsite for a few days with irl stuff

focus elsewhere nauci.

[the worst]

I was probably the n2 NK target

[the worst]

I was probably the n2 NK target

N2?

N1*

[the worst]

Keyser Soze's avatar changing to Heisenberg has me so shook

[the worst]

we should policy lynch people who suggest policy lynches

[the worst]

anyone who votes me from now on is just policy lynching for suggesting we policy lynch people who suggest policy lynches

[the worst]

same tbh

[the worst]

how've you been lately NM? don't see you around as much these days

[the worst]

I'm cool, I'm still around, I guess we just haven't been in the same games. How are you?

I'm doing pretty good.
yeah that's uncanny, I'm at an all time high number of games and I think this is the only one you're in?
I'm sure we'll be in another soon

[the worst]

@scum please for the love of god push a better wagon
I have a bit of a theory forming but I'm sad ;(

[the worst]

it is in my best interests to say yes
so
yes

[the worst]

yikes there's prolly 2 scum on my wagon

pushing a cw this hard makes me think Mom is probably the third

[the worst]

I'm like 15 pages of splotchy reading behind but Nauci is not feeling like town!Nauci.

Hi TW, sorry to re-tread old ground, but are you seeing town!Nauci

now

?

I see tryhard!Nauci
but no not towntelling

[the worst]

yeah but I get the feeling she's posting to get townread not posting to nail scum

[the worst]

how are you actually reading Not_Mafia tho

[the worst]

that's a surprisingly and impressively nuanced read on Not_Mafia. I may actually finally be getting over my first impression of you

I see tryhard!Nauci
but no not towntelling

If you believe this, what have you done about it, since our last chat about Nauci on D1?

(I've been casting my eye over your ISO for a few minutes now...)

just watched my wagon fill itself up with scumfucks. not claiming slayers gambit here but I have been busy with other stuff and I think weirdly it's delivered in its own way.

but hey here I am now. wanna jam?

[the worst]

I'm not voting for Nauci?

[the worst]

thought I did at SOD. just checked my ISO. space cadet mode rn.

VOTE: Nauci

[the worst]

ftr, this is a bad sign because we tend to mindmeld as tvt and he knows that i have a *very* good sense of this sort of thing

this is a bad sign because I have a feeling you can immitate this kind of thing as scum, and I had literally no success in working out where you were coming from on this angle.. :/

[the worst]

I'll do Nauci>Skitter>Mom I think

[the worst]

VOTE: The worst
I think mom-TW then probably N_M, if not then BV/math slot. Mom tw have to die though.
I was going to hard insist mom today actually but 1746 is legitimately scummy from duck here.
FTR vla should only stop a wagon d1 because it's about content/pressure then. I kind of just want flip now.

dude come on

[the worst]

I will if it wagons up. If I'm gonna throw down a vanity vote it's gonna be on my strongest scumread.

[the worst]

Ironically I feel like my reads are being brushed off unfairly. If you're town having a hissy fit and saying I'm in your shit list really doesn't help me correct them dude.

[the worst]

like if you just think I'm a garbo player perhaps you're subtly asking me to rep out? or do you think you have spewed your alignment here? I don't see where you actually think my stance is unjust?