Mini 2020: Destiny III: Cosmic Mafia [終わり]

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WHATS UP

I HAVE NOT READ D1 SINCE I REPLACED IN

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i dont trust any of you guys with a day vig >.>


kuribo is town but i 100% expect the next person to piss him off

*cough* dunn

to get insta vigged

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Something doesn't add up here, you say you didn't read the day then how did you get to your second post here

i was reading before i got here

i do it every game i replace into for the most part

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i dont trust any of you guys with a day vig >.>


kuribo is town but i 100% expect the next person to piss him off

*cough* dunn

to get insta vigged

Who would you dayvig?

either mollie or lld.
probably lld.

I can confrim this game is multiball I had a 1 shot vest as well and I got killed through it

This means I was killed by 2 things

why not mention this at daystart btw?

i dont trust any of you guys with a day vig >.>


kuribo is town but i 100% expect the next person to piss him off

*cough* dunn

to get insta vigged

so you did read d1

cool

almost exactly half of it.

I think scum are in muffina/ag/dgb.

i just dont like your reads

can you remind me why your read on AG flipped pretty quickly? I didn't get it reading before.

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those are policy lynches/vig shots, how about you tell us what you actually think about the other players?

well where i was in reading
i dont understand your thought processes and it makes you seem scummy to me
dunn is unnecessarily aggro for ostensibly no reason whatsoever
lld is scum
kuribo is somewhat justifiably upset but it looks like it leads into some wacky decision making
(like 3 or 4 people thought dunn was scum because he won an argument and was a dick about it)
ag seemed obvtown
fey was like whatever and made like 2 posts
espy seemed town (and he was when i replaced in \o/)
i honestly was scumreading mariar

i dont really remember much about anyone else

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Nosferatu, which part of the multiverse does an AG obvtown read come from?

why not

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first!

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Kuribo - I don't think scum would have bothered or even thought about breadcrumbing the name of the town when the whole point is they should not know and they do. As if I even need to name a reason. His reasoning could be better though. Insects can tell the difference between two and three.
Pixie - One of my strongest town reads at this point. Anyone who thinks she could be my partner after yesterday cannot be thinking clearly. I apparently only survived because she moved my vote, so if she was my partner, don't you think I'd have known about it?
Dunnstral - I was conflicted about this read for a long time. I noted him being defensive a number of times, but his play since then has looked more and more town. He may be too argumentative for his own good, but I don't see any scum intent behind that.
Ghost - My town read from yesterday still holds, and post 980 has made it stronger. I would not expect scum to basically brag about their past scum performance.
Nacho & Staeg - I've had my doubts about their mason claim from the start, though I did not think it likely they would be scum. I thought about gambitting neighbors, lovers, or maybe they misunderstood something about their roles. But probably they are what they say they are.

reading through feysel's posts for some inspiration, there's probably a buddy in here, probably ghost just from reading this although i generally still townread him

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Oh yeah. You exist in this game Nos. I tracked you last night. No result.

sounds about right

Since Nosferatu seems to be very much alive; it's a safe bet I have wasted my invention as I must not have been targeted

yikes

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I haven't read your recent posts kuribo but if you kill my buzz just keep in mind that I WILL be in new jersey next week. I am sure that I can find SOMEPLACE to bury your body there

don't bury a man in nj

that's cruel and unusual

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And yeah, you are caught cuz Espe. I know, it sucks.

And you know what sucks? 3 years ago the exact same thing happened. I replaced into espe's slot right as he's confirmed scum.

It's a fucking tragedy innit?

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i still think lld bused feysal

her initial vote was garbage

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He's obviously going to come back in with the "dudes what the fuck 'tis obvious sarcasm like LLD and whoever the heck else has been tossing around, untwist jimmies now thanks" and I get that
Luckily there's no way I'm scum _with_ him, right?

I mean if I scumclaim to joke along with something I'm not so totally unaware that I think there won't be consequences.

I just cared about making the joke more.

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He's scum regardless of the joke, because Espe was scum

I would have to disagree

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i mean no shit but what about that furthered that read

as far as i could see you got nothing out of that

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so it did literally nothing

that's cool my dude

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i mean you literally scumread him because you left him out of his meme list and he said bruh so idk what i really expected tbh

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Ghost claims he tracked Nosferatu to nowhere, which indicates he didn't try to kill anyone. If we're not in multiball, this means nothing because one of the other scum could have shot DGB. If we ARE, then that makes Nosferatu ether town or not-Feysal mafia. OR DGB roleblocked him from killing someone, which I extremely and highly doubt.

AG claimed no result on me, does that mean it didn't go through or he tracked me to nowhere?

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You think I only scum read him because I forgot he was in the game?


You're gonna pretend I never said this:

Espe. I'd lynch Espe in a heartbeat. Sorry, but I would. Part of it was the reaction to my first post about partying with me. You wanted in on that, didn't you Espe, or at least wanted to know why you weren't in. Oh, don't get me wrong, I haven't read much of anything from Espe--- similar to most of the players--- but that nagging feeling in my head says scum lies there. He's disengaged, he's made excuses for why he isn't scumhunting, and he's tried a couple of times to buddy up to people, myself included. I'd rope Espe right now.

I read that to find out how you scum read him, and I ignored the generic "disengaged, made excuses, is friendly" bullshit that is not really a real reason

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Or this

Feysal, id rather wait till the end of Friday since they had asked for VLA till Thursday. I wouldn't mourn a death in that slot though. If anything I'd say I'm almost 100% sure there's scum between he and Espe, with a non-zero chance they're buddies.

didn't read that ngl but its a non-issue since you're like pretending that this actually means anything and you're scumreading me cause of it. It's disingenuous you would even quote this.

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that's not even remotely what I was trying to say and I'm amazed you got there my dude

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I'm sorry if I'm using things against you that you said on this very page

i mean you literally scumread him because you left him out of his meme list and he said bruh so idk what i really expected tbh

bruh is his first post. how was he making excuses for not posting before he even posted my guy?

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He was making excuses for not posting after that. His "bruh" was in response to me leaving him off a list of people I wanted to party with.

i know this...

gimme a sec i need to chill

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I don't wanna accidentally fly into a rage and piss someone off so I made sure to get some lemonade and chill and shit before coming back.

Or this

Feysal, id rather wait till the end of Friday since they had asked for VLA till Thursday. I wouldn't mourn a death in that slot though. If anything I'd say I'm almost 100% sure there's scum between he and Espe, with a non-zero chance they're buddies.

When you said this, I think it's disingenuous to quote this implying that it's a reason that you scumread him for it. I say this because saying that there's scum between feysal and a >0% chance they're together, that's not a reason. That's stating a scum read and saying its not impossible for them to be buddies and there's a whole fucking intermediary between not zero and 100%. It's not even a display of confidence either. It's literally quoting just to quote and acting like it supports your argument when it doesn't at all. It's just fluff to flex on me or whatever.

The quote you're calling disingenuous wasn't meant to be part of a case: you claimed I was only scumreading Espe because I forgot he was in the game when I made my associative list, my point is I was scumreading that long before.
And as far as making cases, I'm going to point out an old saying of mine:
"I don't build cases; I just eat faces."

This is another reason I think you're trying to flex. No one fucking quotes themselves unprompted unless they're trying to stunt.

And this whole post misinterprets what I said in a way that it makes it seem (to me) like I was asking for a case or something? Idk why you even brought it up. It's just unnecessary.

I'm sorry if I'm using things against you that you said on this very page

i mean you literally scumread him because you left him out of his meme list and he said bruh so idk what i really expected tbh

The post you think helps you is me saying that you scumread him because he wanted to be in on the party list like you said in

Part of it was the reaction to my first post about partying with me. You wanted in on that, didn't you Espe, or at least wanted to know why you weren't in.

which sounds fucking ridiculous.

So it seems to me you didn't really get what I meant which is idk whatever

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I quoted myself because you acted as if my scum read had come from nowhere and I was showing you that it hadn't

I know that you think that's what happened but that's not what i meant. I think the read came from someplace, but i think it was a stupid place you feel.

question: does anyone think that the "masons" are town by play?

not really

VOTE: staeg nacho seems scummier than staeg though

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also FUCK i lost all of my notes on this game

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im not sure how that's a real question

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are you implying that there's some way our alignments aren't the same?

well no but that doesn't change the fact that I would rather lynch one before the other

also FUCK i lost all of my notes on this game

also jeez good thing exactly 2 of them made it into the game

dont think i posted any of them i can read again i just feel like ive lost the objectivity i had from reading the game before i replaced in.

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dont think i posted any of them i can read again i just feel like ive lost the objectivity i had from reading the game before i replaced in.

Were you waiting for anything specific before dropping said objectivity onto the game?

yeah, for the mood to strike me before getting back in

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back into reading that is. It's honestly whatever, I gave mollie some reads based on my notes, and i dont think the mood was going to strike me at this rate.

{lld, staeg, nacho, pixie} is still my scumpool

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scum equity lmfao

what does that mean

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im actually a reverse traitor. The scum team knows who I am, but I don't know who they are.

I've also got the PT, and they have nothing.

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scumhunting ability is testing off the charts here

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fucking fantastic

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hammer away

talking is unnecessary because im getting lynched for a joke, espe saying wanting to be included on a friend list

o/

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ive already given reads but you cant read for shit o/

and fuck a claim, just get me the hell outta dodge

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u have to catch scum to do that

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and inb4 you say you caught feysal, you did not.

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literally anyone not scum would have

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if you legitimately think that if you had any direct hand in making it obvious as fuck that feysal was scum, then you're delusional o/

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i would self hammer but that would be against my win con

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So let's pretend you survive this, you're Town, and I invite you to a PT tonight. Let's also pretend I get named mermaid

mermaid vote: kuribo

Who would you spend tonight suggesting I shoot?

{lld, nacho, staeg, pixie}
in that order probably

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nosferatu can you just claim (inc starsigns) instead of acting like this? ty

i dont feel like my claim would help me and im not emotionally prepared to fakeclaim so its not really necessary

hammers are welcome

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the fact that you scumread this slot is lol

I wanted to play this game but its obvious that there is nothing I can do in this situation. I can't convince people that my slot is town if the reasons for scumreading my slot are bullshit but no one has the mental capacity to see that.

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Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

Bruh

Like the fact that this post is treated as scum-indicative is fucking ridiculous. How the fuck can I argue against that?

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I wanted to play this game but its obvious that there is nothing I can do in this situation. I can't convince people that my slot is town if the reasons for scumreading my slot are bullshit but no one has the mental capacity to see that.

are you still going on about how the scumread on esp is for his first post of the game?

hell yeah I am

its fucking ridiculous and transparent to me that its the root of the problem

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The other arguments are "lurking and making excuses for doing so" which are more dumb reasons for an enduring scumread that extends past the replace out. Buddying is a given in a game when about ~75% of the playerlist has known each other for years

it's bullshit, and on top of that I have to deal with ego and disingenuous arguments. It's demotivating and annoying and beyond my control for the most part, when no matter what I do, espe's slot will be scumread. Might as well have just modkilled the slot instead of replacing it.

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If it helps, your recent posts make you obvscum too

like you're wrong and this is an example of why I don't see the point in doing anything. There will be zero reflection when I flip town. After all this, my flip will be a passing thought, and my anger and frustration will have been meaningless. It's all a pointless exercise in futility. Just fucking depressing.

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vig list was sorta independent, I think my first post was on possible feysal partners

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ghost was my guess for a feysal partner provided my townread of him was wrong.

honestly didn't know pixie redirected the lynch ngl

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fuck you

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I was legitimately about to go through feysal's ISO and adjust my scumreads accordingly

I was about to post that I would do that as soon as I ate some dinner.

replace out

either I'm getting lynched or I'm leaving. I don't give a shit. I'm not playing in this game. Fuck all of you.

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Apparently im legit not allowed to rage replace out

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so I guess I'm declaring vla when I get home

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Nobody can stop you from leaving, you can't be "not allowed" to replace out

the mod disagrees with you.

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i have to play in good faith or whatever so uhh

dont do that?

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y'all have a very loose definition of caught

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why aren't we lynching Nosferatu again?

no fucking clue

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This is the part where you reach out to your reads and ask for support. He is refusing to claim, so lynch him imo. If he is doing this as town he is game throwing and will be on the naughty list cos that
wld be really shitty to replace into a game and then say fuck you to the mod and players by not playing. I think lld's tendency to bus is rubbing nos the wrong way. At leafy that is what looks like to me.

me being upset for being bused actually doesn't make sense

you're just bullshitting

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isn't sk still singleball? How would sk!feysal know whether or not the game is multiball? Even if he did know, I don't see why it makes any sense for him to reveal that its multiball. The message just seems like an attempt at wifom.

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VEERING OFF TOPIC, IM STARTING TO DOUBT MY CUPCAMN READ AGAIN - MAY NEED TO REREAD. UNSURE ABOUT NOSEFRAUT - LIKE THAT HE'S VOTING THE """MASONS""" BUT NOT A SUPER BIG FAN OF THE FACT HE'S BASICALLY PROD-DODGING ATM

i legit have stated that i dont want to be in this game and am only in it cause the mod wont let me leave

the fact that you want to shade me for that is quite frankly amazing

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FEYSAL'S? DIDNT HE CLAIM THE REASON HE SENT THE MESSAGE BECAUSE HIS ROLE SAID IT WAS MULTIBALL OR SOMETHING?

his role had a passive that returned the alignment of any investigative that targeted him as a result.

but this is a mini and multiball seems wack with an sk in the mix

even if there is a groupscum cop, it probably is a red herring.

unless you legit think there's multiball with teams of 2

pedit: idk why you think that inspires me to be invested into the game.

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i was actually about to say that dunn is either town or my scum bud so its nice to know we're on the same track

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why?

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You're at L-1 Nos.

you must have missed when I asked for the hammer

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idk why you made that post then.

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I just want to say sorry to fate that my replace in had to go like this. I really wanted to play but after talking with kuribo and camn, it really made me not want to be here anymore. It's my fault for not playing to my best ability and ignoring them to try to save my slot but I didn't and I'm sorry for that.

send me to spec chat o/

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Cause I thought that you'd get over your negative emotions after a cool down period of a few days and play the game.

unfortunately im an emotional teenager

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If I've wronged you on that deeply a personal level by thinking you're scum then I don't know what to tell you

ur overestimating the level of effect you've had on me.

i dont think that playing the game earnestly would change your opinion, and thus I don't want to play. You haven't hurt me.

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That's actually a relief believe it or not

im glad i could give you comfort in the end times

I don't think Nosferatu is mafia

His emotion is coming because he doesn't think kuribo/camn will change his mind on the slot, which isn't alignment indicative unless he thinks they can read him super crazy well. If he didn't actually want to play, he could lurk and get modkilled, but instead he's making us burn a lynch on him for whatever reason.

cause (you) get objectively more information this way

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feels bad when i didnt get a dead qt invite

im so upset i was so fucking childish over a mafia game ugh

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"you scumread me so im leaving" what am i fucking 4? jesus.

sorry i put you guys through that.