Mini 2017: Encore Mafia - Now Without Cults [Endgame]
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VOTE: Ms Marangal
Let’s lynch obvscum this time-
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Also do you guys think it’ll be a good idea to list all roles you ever had? I’m not sure how useful this will be though.-
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I proposed it because I deduced that it won't help scum as they can easily collate the list of all such roles at Night. I believe they would be hardworking enough to generate that list.
But if you're against it then fine with me.-
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There's no way you're getting a townread off the first post in the game, especially an RVS vote.
I agree with the first paragraph.In post 11, mutantdevle wrote:I'd fully expect scum to collect such a list but I don't see any point in helping them with that or doing the work for them. If anyone has a role that would benefit from knowing everyone else's potential role then they should collect the list themselves.
Also, since this isprobablya PR heavy game, I'd like to request thatno one crumb their role, scum will spot it and they WILL kill you for it. Anyone who feels like their role is useless should feel free to drop a fake crumb though if they want to bite a night kill . But of course, don't be so obvious about it that it'stooobvious.
Also, if anyone is a neighbouriser, I want in :3
Finally, VOTE: Srceenplay, I'll get you this time
I think I have generated enough wifom in this post. This final line in of itself furthers that wifom.
I disagree with the second paragraph. I agree this is likely to be role madness, but this means crumbs are not as useful for scum as everyone is a role so PR wise it doesn't matter much who they kill.
I want to be in a neighbourhood as well :3
Also I'll end off by saying that Awoo is giving me lynchbait feels.-
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Part of the reason I suggested this is because I was thinking of certain roles that would be better if the rolepool of everyone is known. For example, Role Cop is almost a Cop this game. Though I am aware that because some players have hundreds of games it'll be difficult to generate that list and therefore it does help scum.
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Iirc the only game I had with you under any of your accounts was on the fallout shelter. I was town, you were scum. You lurked D1, I got lynched D1, and then someone got a guilty on you N1.In post 23, mastina wrote:
Have we really not played together before?In post 20, BNL wrote:There's no way you're getting a townread off the first post in the game, especially an RVS vote.
You would not be making this post if we had ever played together, but I could have SWORN we've played together; I've seen you around a whole fuckload, yet this is something you absolutely should know about me if you have literally any experience with me.
Are you confusing me with someone else? I haven't been on Mafiascum between Feb 2017 and May 2018.-
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To clarify I feel like Awoo gives me the same vibes as new players in general. Everything they say comes off as scummy. However they are just town who doesn't know how to game properly (sorry no offense). This is what I mean by lynchbait.-
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Also this is probably town as they have a long wait before getting their role PM and the game actually starting. Whereas scum get pregame chat. It could be faked by scum but I'm not feeling it.In post 26, Kokichi Oma wrote:Do mods no longer PM people when the game starts? I had to iso to see if this game started cause i got my role PM few days ago-
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Not as players in a game; you reviewed my Normal.In post 35, mastina wrote:
I've been on mafiascum for much longer than that.In post 24, BNL wrote:Are you confusing me with someone else? I haven't been on Mafiascum between Feb 2017 and May 2018.
I was there when you were first around in 2015, and I've been around since you've been back; I could have sworn you'd encountered me at some point.-
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Game is not progressing. Going to switch to my strongest scumread now.
UNVOTE: Ms Marangal
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Not impossible. I find all-scum wagons quite plausible early Day 1, and you seem like you'd be an easy vote to make.In post 79, Awoo wrote:Hard read: Everyone voting for me is mafia-
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That said, I want to go here first:
UNVOTE: mastina
VOTE: mutantdelve
He has some decently sized posts but I don't see scumhunting in his iso.-
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In post 84, Awoo wrote:Updated read: everyone but kokichi voting for me is mafia
Is 84 a correction to 79, or did 82 change your read on Kokichi?In post 79, Awoo wrote:Hard read: Everyone voting for me is mafia-
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Zzz
This game is way too slow. How many lurkers do we have?
I can see the mylo vote, but I wanna pressure mutantdelve first. Vote mutant with me?-
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Hi Esp. Glad to see you won’t be lurking.
You think my post was scummy?-
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Yeah, pretty much. I'm kinda overexcited about playing my first forum Mafia game in 1.5 years.In post 92, Errantparabola wrote:BNL: He's laying the whole "I'm engaged with the game!" a little thick, isn't he? I'll chalk it up to being back from a long hiatus
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Okay.
I'm null on you, your posts didn't really strike me either may. Maybe very slightly leaning town.
Do you want to say anything that could change that?-
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Yo Mylo
Some people are voting you. What do you have to say about that?-
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Yeah I think EP is town.
About implosion, I don’t know. He has been mirroring a lot of my thoughts in his posts, which I like, but because he has me as his strongest townread, I am paranoid that he could be buddying me.
Pine’s play is really underwhelming right now. I’m not sure what he’s thinking with his recent posts, but I’ll give him some time.-
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Ok. Same as Awoo then.
Do you have any thoughts on who is town and who is scum though?-
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I'll be looking forward to it then.
Mylo gave me the same newbie vibes as Awoo did, but I'm more cautious of him.-
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Hmm. I still can’t sort you.
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No need. Instead, answer me
What exactly did you sheep me about?
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I don’t think that’s a good reason for a vote-
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I see. So you’re the kind that doesn’t like RVS. Then this makes a lot of sense.In post 121, Myloninja13 wrote:That's fair, but it's better than my personal alternative of no vote.-
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Also before I forget happy birthday Wisdom!-
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Implosion, how did you go from Mylo going from Designated Lynch to "hard time getting a solid read on"?
I agree with the mutantdevle vote. Other than the mentioned awkward 138, many of his comments are related to addressing points at him. He seems more interested in self defense than scum hunting.
UNVOTE: Myloninja
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Pine is probably town, and is likely not mutant's partner-
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Acceptable responseIn post 155, implosion wrote:The real answer is that calling him a Designated Lynch™ was never really especially serious or meaningful.-
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Give me a good reason I should believe you’re town if you refuse to scum huntIn post 160, mutantdevle wrote:
"Maybe mutant has a reason to not be scum hunting but instead of asking him that reason I'm just going to opportunistically vote for him and paint him as scum for it."In post 151, BNL wrote:I agree with the mutantdevle vote. Other than the mentioned awkward 138, many of his comments are related to addressing points at him. He seems more interested in self defense than scum hunting.
All of my posts that addressed points against me at the time of your post were simply questioning things about me rather than defending myself against them. I don't so how that makes up 'many of my comments' or is particularly defensive.
And ofc I'm going to seem more interested in self-defence than scum hunting when I've done literally no scum hunting at all...-
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Actually I will provide an alternative question.
How are you going to help town win if you don’t hunt for scum?-
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Not really seeing the Pine wagon.
Mastina what do you think of Pine?-
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Implosion so how did you get mutantdevle town?-
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I think with mastina talking about her role so much, I think it’s best to leave sorting her to another Day.
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I never thought you were scum. I made it clear that I was town reading you, and by "lynchbait" I meant mislynch bait, which is that I thought that if you were to keep up that kind of posting you'd probably get wrongly lynched, based on your first posts having the same feel as other mislynch baits I've played with before.In post 216, Awoo wrote:BulletNLynchproof:
So here's why I called this guy powerscum:
too reasonable & agreeable, slow to action and fast to back off. What did awoo mean by this? well:
6 and 9 suggest something meaningless, immediately backs off facing slightest opposition. Not saying this never comes from town but the purpose behind these posts reminds me of the whole "trying to appear town" thing. Trying to appear reasonable, you know? This is further backed by 20 more useless(? idk im vt xD) setup spec but then calls me lynchbait, has also proceeded to never vote for me in the game, for some reason backs up calling me lynchbait while (also spewing me as town?) in 28.
Translator's note: spewing means "when mafia has perfect information and calls someone town/mafia too easily because they know already".
What I'm trying to say here is, he's soft defending me suspiciously, when he probably shouldn't be. It gives the mental image of the "brian skies mafia" who is super reasonable about everything and hard to lynch, and sometimes stays off town lynches on scummy townies just to be right about it and appear really intellectual (LOL) but you know what I mean.
AND FUCK THIS POST 80 this is what set me off the deep end. Here is an artists depction of this scenario:awoo wrote:duhhhhh i think everyone voting for me is scum btw i eat glue and paint chips and idk how to play mafia
Does anyone else see a problem here? See how this fits into the intellectual powerscum idea? Yeah. I might eat glue, but I can also win the game.BNL wrote:Hmmm... interesting. The young master has quite the plausible and not impossible theory. *sips champagne* *contemplates* Hm.... indeed. Let us encourage this truly intelligent thought to flourish.
ok whos next on the list...
Wrt 80, I said it was not implausible that all 3 scum were voting you because again, experience. I've often seen only-scum wagons on town early game before. Then again, those were micros, so I don't know if the same happens in games of this size.-
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After Awoo's post I don't know what to think. I just hate people who say they are obvious town.
Awoo is now a null for me.-
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But you don't scumread me.In post 237, implosion wrote:And WRT Awoo, BNL seems like an awfully weird choice for him to make if he is scum looking for a counterwagon. Only vote there was Espeonage who isn't exactly at the front of the game's zeitgeist at the moment, with a decent number of people calling him town. I don't think scum-Awoo would think the wagon has a significant chance of forming, unless it's a really odd bus. If he's scum it was just a move to gain towncred and I don't think that's the move that scum looking for towncred is especially likely to make.
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I can see Wisdom town by his votes regarding the Awoo wagon.
I'm also starting to sense mutantdevle town, especially 209
UNVOTE: mutantdevle
VOTE: implosion
Not a fan of how he joined my wagon. Glad to see you've stopped buddying me, though.
pedit: Only when conveyed seriously. I'm not going to rant in this game why I hate such players.-
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You just had me as strongest town. I didn't like how you suddenly flipped on me, especially in the post where you said "BNL is not a bad counterwagon"-
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Also I don't think reckless wagon hopping is scummy. I didn't think your vote on me was scummy, your read flip was.-
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While talking about this though, why did you vote a lot of your null/scum reads, but you did not vote mutantdevle even though you were clearly thinking that he was scummy?-
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Oops I forgot about 237. It was awkward. But I definitely think the read flip sucks much more.-
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Then again,
UNVOTE: implosion
VOTE: Kokichi Oma
I liked your responses. I feel like Kokichi is falling under my radar.-
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It's more like I don't have a townread on you despite you having the largest post count (other than myself).-
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I feel this is town from mylo. I feel that this is what town would post when they were half not following then return.In post 262, Myloninja13 wrote:Woah, why is BNL being wagoned? He's like my only strong townread here lol.
Though I must must say this is partially based on the fact that I know I’m town.-
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Since when did I say that you said that I scumread you?In post 264, Awoo wrote:yo, BNL, I never said you scumread me, read carefully. I didn't like the way you called me town.
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I could do either. Both ways are acceptable ways of trying to get a better read on you. I chose to vote you because I felt like it.In post 266, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Ok. So the point of voting me over trying to engage with me is?In post 257, BNL wrote:It's more like I don't have a townread on you despite you having the largest post count (other than myself).-
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Ugh, wow, this post is so scummy. Like it shows that Awoo has already decided to scumread me rather than actually continuing to read me.In post 277, Awoo wrote:Things to consider when I feel like it (You can try this too!)
- look at mastina votes
- respond to BNL, call his reply scummy, show your work in a well structured argument
But I'm hesitant to actually see this as scummy simply because I know a lot of people play bad like this as town.-
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I think you clearly scumread me. Why aren't you voting me already?In post 301, Kokichi Oma wrote:I could vote BNL
@Wisdom same question-
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In post 308, Myloninja13 wrote:He's my obligatory "Strong player" townread.
Hey mylo, my play has already stopped being strong.In post 310, Myloninja13 wrote:Without really intending to, I generally find an experienced player who is townish, and just sheep them until I have any idea on what to do. This game, it's BNL!
Also my vote has moved off mastina long long ago.
I feel like asking a question here but I can't think of one. Anyway, I would like a response to this.-
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Town {Errantparabola, implosion, mutantdevle}
Nulltown {Kokichi Oma, Myloninja13}
Null {Espeonage, Pine, Wisdom, Ms Marangal, the worst}
Nullscum {Awoo}
Not including mastina on this list because I think lynching her today is not a good idea.
Too many unreadable people for my liking. Come on, lurkers!
UNVOTE: Kokichi Oma
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Hi Wisdom. I can't read you. Talk to me?-
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I guess I'll start by taking the initiative by answering your previous question. Idk it was a gut read. His interaction with the worst later made it go down for him a little though.In post 268, Wisdom wrote:
Why wouldn't scum post it?In post 263, BNL wrote:
I feel this is town from mylo. I feel that this is what town would post when they were half not following then return.In post 262, Myloninja13 wrote:Woah, why is BNL being wagoned? He's like my only strong townread here lol.
Though I must must say this is partially based on the fact that I know I’m town.-
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Oh hey Mara. Also good to talk to you because I can't sort you.
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