Mini 2020: Destiny III: Cosmic Mafia [終わり]

[Staeg]

Which one of y'all wants to party in harmony with me tonight?

DGB, Katsuki, Nacho, Staeg get first dibs

ME ME ME

This pact is sealed.

fuck

[Staeg]

You can call it an act of defiance

vote: Cupcake

[Staeg]

I was 3rd, so old school says it's me. The fact that it's not me means it must be the other third also known as fourth and therefore Staeg.

Vote: Espeonage

I wasn't gonna pay attention to this game I wasn't going to pay attention to this game I wasn't gonna pay attention to this damn it.

Getting out in front of X before Y can X. yadda yadda votes blah blah pressure someone just do the thing

This was very good

[Staeg]

VOTE: Kuribo

VOTE: AnonymousGhost

Excellent and also missing the point

[Staeg]

Well this game started quickly

#ScumPostDetected

Yessss

unvote
Vote: kokichi oma

[Staeg]

Good luck with that one
Also, string*

[Staeg]

it's nai on the scummy side

That's an oxymoron unless you're just tossing out Mafia words

It's an attempt to be rather clever while also trying to divert attention away from the buddy with the budding wagon

[Staeg]

What if Cupcake is town, Feysal? How does that reflect on Esp?

[Staeg]

don't think that kokichi post is anywhere near as bad as some people are suggesting it is

also don't think kokichi is all that hard a player to read given time

currently want to lynch in these players, unless they start looking town:
{cupcake, dunnstral, cupcake, kokichi, cupcake,

feysal

, cupcake,

nacho

, cupcake}

maybe add cupcake to that list

This makes no sense. You say my post is nai? Yet say you want to lynch me. Explain

I don't believe you made an attempt to interpret what this means before asking for an explanation

Well this game started quickly

#ScumPostDetected

Yessss

unvote
Vote: kokichi oma

This vote looks the fakest. If you thought it was a scum post, why wait for someone else to point it out instead of yourself? Especially when you seem to be so excited for it

...ya same here
I would at this stage ask for what the most likely explanation you think could be appropriate here, buttt
I wasn't online when those posts were made, which can be fairly easily inferred from the burst-like posting - you once again didn't make even a cursory attempt to look for an explanation before entering phalanx stance~

Do you happen to have opinions on players not attacking you?

[Staeg]

don't think that kokichi post is anywhere near as bad as some people are suggesting it is

also don't think kokichi is all that hard a player to read given time

currently want to lynch in these players, unless they start looking town:
{cupcake, dunnstral, cupcake, kokichi, cupcake,

feysal

, cupcake,

nacho

, cupcake}

maybe add cupcake to that list

This makes no sense. You say my post is nai? Yet say you want to lynch me. Explain

OK this kid is town.

LLD is not.

VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

wHat??

[Staeg]

side note, i don't believe that kokichi doesn't have his role. i don't think him lying about that makes him scum, though

side note, the hell is this, that's obviously not what he's claiming?

[Staeg]

SUper down with an AG wagon as well fwiw,

[Staeg]

Kuribo's recent push on Dunn feels entirely ill-founded and I don't particularly like you either, Muffins

[Staeg]

Kuribo's recent push on Dunn feels entirely ill-founded and I don't particularly like you either, Muffins

Don't you start, if he doesn't wanna be called out for naked voting he shouldn't naked vote

I'm not sure what type of response is possible to it, though? Other naked votes have happened which would have just-as-good defenses as this one, and it feels

very

weird that you'd stick to the objection

[Staeg]

real talk: if someone can point me to one post in staeg's ISO they think comes from town and competently defend it as a town post, i'll eat the shirt i'm currently wearing

This is a new reason to not like you :<

[Staeg]

Kuribo's recent push on Dunn feels entirely ill-founded and I don't particularly like you either, Muffins

Don't you start, if he doesn't wanna be called out for naked voting he shouldn't naked vote

I'm not sure what type of response is possible to it, though? Other naked votes have happened which would have just-as-good defenses as this one, and it feels

very

weird that you'd stick to the objection

I was asked about him, that's the difference. He responded, which is also the difference.

I don't know why it surprised you or strikes you as weird that I'd engage people who interact with me.

Yeah that's fair - it did seem like more random words that don't mean much of anything rather than actual interaction to me. Is there any point in elaborating?

And frankly it's disingenuous for you to act like that's even the first naked vote in this game I've had a problem with or called out.

Nah, it's just the first one that spiraled into a series of somethings.

[Staeg]

Hey Staeg, where you at bruh?

You kinda disappeared after poking me a few times

ya sry m8 I'm on it, I just taught my first class ever and din't announce a V/LA because of overconfidence

[Staeg]

Kurbio, the push seemed off because at every step you raised an objection that differed significantly from anything I might have responded. There was a groove to it that didn't fit my reading of the game, even if none of it was technically wrong.

My original interpretation of Dunn's Kokichi vote and unvote was not fencesitty at all, mostly because I had a similar impression that there was a clear improvement, but I appear to have misassigned someone's post to Kokichi, since 156 is the only intermediate post and it's not a very good one. My previous frame pointed at Dunn making a reasonable transition that didn't merit much explanation (which made me confused about why Kuribo would jump on it), and this new one just feels like he got distracted and didn't pay attention, then tried to reverse-engineer the reasoning later.

Responding to "why is [post] bad?" with "no why is it good?" was similarly jarring - your further response was the next intuitive step, and your dance felt like it had an added 2.5 step between the 2-beat and the 3-beat and was thus off.

I projected the off-ness of the dance onto Dunn at the time, and felt like he understandably couldn't quite catch your pitch. I now appear to think he's scum, oops, more on that in a bit.


You then asserted disenginuity on my part and assumed that the faultline I perceived was regarding the naked vote, not regarding your approach specifically, which, blech, is fair in retrospect, but did not at all read like a reasonable interpretation of my posts at the time.

All this resulted in me feeling like you're not reading between the lines, or that your eyes perceive much different words written there. The "series of somethings" was a not-entirely-sober way of saying that you're talking past each other, and that you're also talking past me regarding a misplaced understanding of my points of disapproval.

[Staeg]

GHEY DGB

THIS GAME IS KINDA STAGNATING WITHOUT BLOOD

WANNA GIVE KURIBO DUNS TODAY

I'm going to have to read the game again since no one wants to vote for the scum because it'll hurt their feelings, to find a scum that is socially acceptable to vote.

This entire debacle on behalf of DGB feels very inconsistent with my model of how emotionally intelligent she is

and

of what some people - kuribo, mostly - are saying in regards to their reasoning (ie directly contradicting the claim that this is emotion-based and pointing at actual content), to the extent that I'd call it a scumpost.

I admit I haven't been keeping track of what LLD has been doing besides that post that DGB dissected.

@LLD

- What are your reads on the players that you mentioned in 163 i.e. Maria, Kuribo, Katsuki/Camn hydra, Staeg, and Esp?

This feels artificial. Mechanical, to an even greater extent than the rest of your assorted Q&A sessions.

But as scum, why would he bother, when the whole point of the crumb is that he should not know what the town is called, and he does? Him doing that as scum would practically require cognitive dissonance.

He was selling the idea that scum didn't know this knowledge, and everyone else was either lapping it up or too disconnected from the game to do anything about it. If he's scum he's trying to make himself look like town, that's a motivation

Along with misassigning some posts to various players and thus no longer feeling like your first moves in the game were that great, this is a signal beacon. I don't see a way for you to come to this conclusion and then continue pushing the angle in light of everything that happens

and after being warned of thunderstrike territory

. You have an already written bottom line and are trying to rationalize your way to it, which is exceedingly more likely to come from a scum perspective.

unvote
vote: DUnnstral

Anyway... camntsuki... I'm not going to pretend that I'm following their posts. I'd rather lynch in my lynch pool than begin to lynch outside of it.

VOTE: Steag

ty for joining the best wagon ghost.

Can you two talk to me about why Staeg and why not listen to Nacho's meta tr on them?

And I want nacho to talk more about their read on staeg and if it's ch anged

Did you get around to answering the thing where if I'm aware of having such a meta it might be somewhat invalidated?
(it isn't, since I'm godawful at faking my town mindset as scum, but that's me saying that)

[Staeg]

Unless my "artificial-ness" and "mechanicalism" relates to your read on my alignment, you're not doing anything beyond talking to talk.

I'm still down to rope you since ancient times, and I don't think anyone's going to go and interpret what I said as anything other than negative valence.

[Staeg]

you are being pushed for your lack of scumhunting.

Well, I don't think that's fair

I think it is

dissuade me

There are a good amount of players with less scumhunting than I.

Espeonage, Kokichi, Camntsuki, arguably Nacho, arguably Kuribo

how does my name not appear on this list? it feels randomly generated

[Staeg]

Consider this post a L-1 @Staeg. So claim

sure, Hades without a Moon sign, Mason and apparently not actually a treestump d1

delayed V/LA notice until July 15th

will be back to interact with game before then as well~

[Staeg]

If these Greek God claims are just another way to say your Moon sign, why not go with that if they're scum? I've said it before but I'm saying it again that the sample role PM provides the town flavor for a town player.

what the fuck

[Staeg]

If these Greek God claims are just another way to say your Moon sign, why not go with that if they're scum? I've said it before but I'm saying it again that the sample role PM provides the town flavor for a town player.

what the fuck

someone apparently doesnt know that the constellations were named after the greek gods? maybe?

but i'll be honest, I didn't read any of that shit

No, I mean, "I don't know why they would claim this as scum" + the later "NOPE going down with this ship" AND "if they're

town

they can look at the sample role PM

which town players would definitely be likely to peruse

"??

[Staeg]

Muffin's case for staeg-scum post-claim is light years better than AG's sunken ship that's somehow still burning (->muffin probably town), to the extent that I can't simulate the reasoning

It doesn't help that it's happening on the background of Muffin's more reasoned case

[Staeg]

Is an AG lynch on the table?

[Staeg]

What if DGB is right about AG, and mollie is right about Muffin: what if they're both scum?

Then rope gets delivered to the weaker link and reassessment happens later on, but I'm disinclined to think that this is likely

[Staeg]

I'm not too sure, it's easiest for scum to just sit back and "mmmhm yup masons, onto the next wagon" and collect claims.

This feels at odds with what you just said, kuribo.

[Staeg]

Is AG one of those people?

unvote
Vote: AnonymousGhost

I'm not averse to lynching Feysal

[Staeg]

I haven't read through some middle 10 pages of the thread, but I assume dgb didn't answer anything regarding the rampant misdirection and misinterpretation regarding folks not voting LLD

[Staeg]

rampant misdirection and misinterpretation regarding folks not voting LLD

You know I'm town so does it matter? LLD is scum.

...I don't really think you are, and she's apparently so scum as to fall off your scumteam list altogether?

[Staeg]

I'm getting reads

YOu have like 5 posts in your entire ISO that have reads in them and those are either super-light, meta-based or outright unexplained, you're doing worse than I am dude.

The strongest read you've lobbed out there is a meta meme on Maria, which you then flopped back on with 1070 (and the next one) and didn't even seem particularly engaged with when it was raging hard (aka 'claiming scum'). Quem?

[Staeg]

unvote
vote: Kokichi

[Staeg]

my bad, didn't know that was hammer. but the deadline only days the 15th which could be 1 minute from now anyway

Fate doesn't do bullshit deadline crap-pulls
I am upset that Feysal got lynched over Kokichi after that godawful claim, and this "oh woop deep doop I could not have known this would hammer and also

deadline my dudes

" after you zoinking out over being at L-2... :<

[Staeg]

i still want to lynch staeg

if anyone can read a post like #996 and tell me that sort of post comes from a town mindset, they're either lying or trolling

There's a fairly obvious discrepancy between me being one of their bigger scumreads and my name not appearing on that list

Staeg is at L-2, read my sig.

ah, by the by, here's more willful ignorance of patterns that you really should be able to perceive - DGB really isn't town here, folks

[Staeg]

Fate, hes calling your role and flavor making skills godawful

holy assblasted brimstone what the FUCK is this?

me, attempting to turn the flames towards Fate? not in seven gods-forlorn worlds would you see that happen

the timing of different pieces of information - the wait until you pointed out any discrepancies with the sample PM, the time-delay before even claiming signs, the aversion towards claiming in the first place all the while complaining about getting wagoned - are abhorrent beyond belief, and you dare try and turn that into a criticism of

Fate

???

[Staeg]

there is no time clock for deadline so i will just vote VOTE: Feysal

holy fucking cow you pple are letting this slide by?

yeah idk either, man

[Staeg]

Still don't get ghost scum regardless of the flip

I still get ghost scum regardless of the flip <_>

[Staeg]

Still don't get ghost scum regardless of the flip

I still get ghost scum regardless of the flip <_>

Please explain to my very tiny brain

Artificial-sounding series of questions that don't shape into something like a town-looking mindframe and regardless of whether they get answered or not, reads seem to not change much in their light;
General crowd-followy attitude in terms of who gets voted while still throwing some very smelly turds at fans in the background (the goddamn masons tangent is the most salient example, where extra points get subtracted for reasons that feel clearly reverse-engineered from a conclusion)
This and the following two posts being quite eldritch from any sort of gamesolvy or town mindset (along with some others triggering a similar reaction; can dig up, but doesn't feel worth it)

[Staeg]

I can confrim this game is multiball I had a 1 shot vest as well and I got killed through it

This means I was killed by 2 things

or it means you were killed by a strongman
which is strange either way

What's strange about the Strongman theory is the question of why the Mafia would use it before they had a need to use it.

I'd eat my hat if a casual X-shot strongman was in the game; a pattern with people getting targeted during the night affecting one's abilities has been established for one

I don't think pixie-scum is a valid conclusion from the end of yesterday

[Staeg]

Feysal, does your passive refer to specific alignments/factions as per your example?

[Staeg]

Nosferatu, which part of the multiverse does an AG obvtown read come from? The rest of your reads don't make incredible amounts of sense, either, besides the LLD one, I suppose (getting real nervous about how she pulled a vanishing act once traction wasn't attainable)

I will note that I don't actually think this is multiball (this being distinct from me being the mason with a suspicious shelf life)

[Staeg]

me and DGB talked for four fucking pages on N1, Nacho barely made four posts, fuck that shit, there's no god damn reason for him not to be talking, especially AFTER i revealed to him I was redirecting any NK attempt against me

he has 2 posts total in our mason qt

[Staeg]

My money's still on the no multiball scum have a conditional strongman without explicitly limited shots theory

[Staeg]

vote: LLD

squee

[Staeg]

My money's still on the no multiball scum have a conditional strongman without explicitly limited shots theory

vote: LLD

squee

This line of logic makes no fucking sense.

"It's not Multiball but LLD hardbussed her buddy who wasn't in any risk of being lynched after a game where she JUST DID THAT."

Like......

No clue about prior games, feysal lynch was a shitfest that you do get brownie points for, this is mostly a reaction to your interactions with the rest of the game (like dgb, who I'm still surprised flipped town) and current read on the gamestate
speaking of that

Mollie is a Feysal partner.

I think if it's one scumteam, Kats is probably third scum. If it's Multiball, Ghost+Someone bigger than ghost. Muffin? Makes sense.

Or maybe Espeonage+Muffin.

Hard to tell.

I'd be hella down to rope Ghost, as the barrier around them appears to be indescribable obvtowniness that I can't see for my life, but the concept of a multiball variant on the game that doesn't involve me and Nacho being scum seems entirely novel

[Staeg]

Can you talk to me about how Mollie ends up scum at the end of the day?

[Staeg]

what you are doing here is spreading the votes out and dispersing town. if you think 1 mason is scum then obvsly the other is too so why not vote the 1 that pple are actually talking about lynching?

AG, this feels highly relevant

[Staeg]

Spoiler: Ghost does math

Countdown to LyLo with Multiball (7v2v1):

D3 Lynch = 9 P
N3 = 7 P
D4 = 4v2v1 (LyLo)

Countdown to LyLo in Singleball (8v2) [assumes scum team started with a 3 man team]

D3 Lynch = 9 P
N3 = 8 P
D4 = 7 P
N4 = 6 P
D5 = 5 P [3 v 2] (LyLo)

@Mod - When is D3's deadline?

posts like these are what ping me

what's the supposed takeaway from two worst-case countdowns? what use is this to anyone? is this just posturing? might be, might be
the deadlines are consistent in their duration - if you cared to know the answer instead of wanting to signal usefulness, this takes about 1 minute to check


And, sorry, what's the distinction between talking about lynching and actually lynching?

[Staeg]

or, rather, what's the relevance to the point at hand - do you feel like there's some world where one of us is town and the other is scum, or is this a "well staeg surely has a nifty power role if nacho had to claim along with him~~~~~" case?

[Staeg]

me and DGB talked for four fucking pages on N1, Nacho barely made four posts, fuck that shit, there's no god damn reason for him not to be talking, especially AFTER i revealed to him I was redirecting any NK attempt against me

hey kuribo

i understand your frustration with me - i do
but, when you neighborized DGB, DGB was active as fuck. it was also you neighborizing DGB, who you have a close personal relationship with.
that PT should be very active.

now, when you neighborized me, i probably had less posts than the moderator aaaand most of those posts were probably just flat spam? so the expectation that you neighborizing me is gonna make that lurking disappear is a bit unrealistic - my lurking is not related to my alignment, just my life. (granted - the reason i didn't followthrough with posting last night was because i wanted to play fallout while hungover instead of reading and trying to be smart but we don't *exactly* have to talk about that.

nacho I still want those reads ;-;

why is AG town ;------;

[Staeg]

And yeah, you are caught cuz Espe. I know, it sucks.

And you know what sucks? 3 years ago the exact same thing happened. I replaced into espe's slot right as he's confirmed scum.

It's a fucking tragedy innit?

Spoiler:

[Staeg]

I don't even feel like I have a leg to stand on when saying "idk if that's the way this particlar cookie crumbles" since I don't disendorse the lynch, but, jeez
I'm still in the rotating stage

[Staeg]

He's obviously going to come back in with the "dudes what the fuck 'tis obvious sarcasm like LLD and whoever the heck else has been tossing around, untwist jimmies now thanks" and I get that
Luckily there's no way I'm scum _with_ him, right?

[Staeg]

Well I guess you're town then, goddamnit

[Staeg]

VOTE: staeg nacho seems scummier than staeg though

how in thirteen worlds is that relevant?

[Staeg]

are you implying that there's some way our alignments aren't the same?

[Staeg]

also FUCK i lost all of my notes on this game

also jeez good thing exactly 2 of them made it into the game

[Staeg]

dont think i posted any of them i can read again i just feel like ive lost the objectivity i had from reading the game before i replaced in.

Were you waiting for anything specific before dropping said objectivity onto the game?

[Staeg]

unvote
vote: Nosferatu

L-2 boys

[Staeg]

Vote: Nos
Mermaid vote: Kuribo

Tequila is fun

reeeeee
I can't even throw stones because I did the same thing more or less

[Staeg]

watch as nacho comes in and hammers and laughs in everyone's face at how he can get away with it

wait for it...

I feel personally attacked

[Staeg]

Your head's gonna look great on my mantle next to Feysal's. He might have made himself obvious, but I sent him to hell, and I'm sure he's waiting for you with open arms.

as the lord of the underworld I reject this notion wholeheartedly, he has no hands to hold open

[Staeg]

watch as nacho comes in and hammers and laughs in everyone's face at how he can get away with it

wait for it...

I feel personally attacked

I like how you've basically joined this wagon to save your own skin with no mention of that slot before this point - not even if you think it's town or scum.

Spoiler:

He did the same thing on my wagon day 1

detach your head from your buttocks

[Staeg]

Also I don't think the mermaid reward thing is a vig for some reason

[Staeg]

When did your read on me change, Staeg?

You had some weirdo reverse engineered stance that just wouldn't budge at which point I went back and didn't find the previously felt similar thought pattern bc I'd mistaken one of Kokichi's posts for Espe's or something

[Staeg]

this reeeeeeally doesn't look like town!nacho or even town!staeg for that matter, at least the teeny bit I have played with him

this is the epitome of town!staeg I have no clue what you're on about

[Staeg]

I wanted to play this game but its obvious that there is nothing I can do in this situation. I can't convince people that my slot is town if the reasons for scumreading my slot are bullshit but no one has the mental capacity to see that.

are you still going on about how the scumread on esp is for his first post of the game?

[Staeg]

I really RUHEEEEEALLY don't like that Maria and DGB died before claimed masons

I was trying to not get that to happen by calling dgb scum (besides also thinking she was scum :~<), but like
you know exactly why that's what happened instead of alternatives

[Staeg]

I still think Mollie is scum tbh

Can you still talk to me or anyone, really, about why?

[Staeg]

Holy shit LLD

[Staeg]

What

Can you talk to me about how Mollie ends up scum at the end of the day?

I still think Mollie is scum tbh

Can you still talk to me or anyone, really, about why?

pls?

[Staeg]

Also can I point out that my role is broken if it were a scum role, it means I cld steal a vote day before lylo and auto win and you pple wld never see it coming.

your role _really_ doesn't need to be unconditional

for that matter, now that you reminded me, mind switching my vote away?

[Staeg]

What if it DID work? What if DGB's redirect affected both of his abilities, but they didn't direct to the same person?

DGB's ability clearly states something about being detrimental to the target's faction, no way it redirects a kill from one townie to another

[Staeg]

My Dunn result explicitly says that he did not action N1.
My Nos result says no result.

VOTE: Nosferatu

This was resolved subsequently due to lolmoderrors

[Staeg]

That also doesn't look like an inno to me, although Dunn's just town anyway

I also have no fuckin clue what choosing a Moon Sign is supposed to do, but I'm thinking Pisces for lore reasons

[Staeg]

I am so fucking over this game tbh

Wait this actually ended up being a kill?

[Staeg]

Kuribo's been the odd man out for a while now

[Staeg]

And I'm not letting the "but _why is he still alive_?" angle take root

[Staeg]

3/4*

If you believe multiball

ye gods I was contemplating whether 'odd man out' might be misinterpreted

[Staeg]

Kuribo's been the odd man out for a while now

What about the other 3?

I would say that I'm most conflicted about cupcake, but 'conflicted' isn't the right word at all, since I've found coin tossing to be a better form of divining katsuki's alignment than my reading, whereas LLD's felt destined for gallows for a while and muffins ends up being PoE over kuribo and not a scumread mostly since I can see the angle re: evil masons (specifically the throwing in the towel on earlier days instead of trying to call for blood part), so Nacho's push doesn't seem like the most powerful ever on a background of vague towniness

[Staeg]

3/4*

If you believe multiball

ye gods I was contemplating whether 'odd man out' might be misinterpreted

So you think Kuribo is the town out of those?

yes quite.

[Staeg]

i'm an inventor (virgo+something i forget = scientist). i don't know what my inventions actually are until after each night phase. i pick a player each night and based on how my star signs interact with theirs i get an invention i can hand out the following day. i can't pick the same player more than once in a game. N1 cupcake (gave invention to kuribo d2), N2 nacho got nothing, N3 LLD but there's no point in outing what it is. i'll give it to someone, they can say what it is if they want

How did you choose the targets that you get the inventions from?

[Staeg]

Oh right, Claim.

I'm Taurus/Leo, the Entertainer. I'm a motivator.

When I target a player, all of their active abilities are unable to be prevented by any means.

It should be no surprise that I've been targeted my strongest town reads all game.

MariaR Night 1
Kuribo Night 2
Kuribo Night 3.

My flavour speaks about having a strong determined will, foresight and and honest and fearless personality. I'm a leader, stubborn but fair.

Do you have any idea and/or have you made any attempts to figure out how this interacts with roles like AG's that get influenced by someone targeting them?

[Staeg]

I cld see dunns nking maria especially if the nk was connected to the treestump (which I think it is).

Nah. He didn't take an action last night.

Except AG wasn't a tracker

So what could she be trying to convey here

To be fair the previous incarnation of the role PM also allowed for a 'no action' result if AG was targeted

[Staeg]

Had no real clue shit like that existed, but I've been thinking about Dunn's claim and my claim and how they interact now?

Did you miss any and all places where AG talked about her role?

[Staeg]

lol, staeg's not even trying anymore

hes called dunnstral and kuribo town, so from his pov the game should basically be solved but he's asking these weak questions (as though the answer to 2531, for example, was going to tell him anything about LLD if he was actually on the fence) and making uncontroversial statements like 2532 (which doesn't even really make sense)

you're funny

[Staeg]

Masons is there a reason you guys are just sitting back right now?

Yep, Nacho's disappeared and he has yet to choose a Moon sign (check the VCs)

[Staeg]

kuribo mate sorry for misspelling your name that one time, you're chill af

[Staeg]

Masons is there a reason you guys are just sitting back right now?

Yep, Nacho's disappeared and he has yet to choose a Moon sign (check the VCs)

What does picking a moon sign mean?

probably gives abilities and changes how

scum

Sign-based roles affect us

also

vote: Salvation

or something

[Staeg]

I don't think I'm voting Dunnstral

[Staeg]

Vote: Dunnstral

We have 7 alive right now. There are probably three scum still alive. If we no lynch, we're looking at ending in 4 people alive and if we lynch, we're looking at three. Unless there's information that 100% confirms Dunn as town, there's no reason to do anything but lynch him; there's no realistic situation where we get endgamed because we didn't have one more townie alive and another chance at hitting scum is pretty much always a good thing here.

Nacho yes there is please stop ;-;

[Staeg]

well howdy folks, what a fine day we're having

[Staeg]

Yep that's entirely on me

[Staeg]

It's amazingly hilarious how Fate works in mysterious ways

[Staeg]

but then staeg posted something after LLD flipped whoops

fwiw I endorse this shot and may or may not have had something to do with last night's resolutions, but further elaboration feels irrelevant at this stage unless someone really needs to know

[Staeg]

ufh dunn and muffin both have horrible associations with fey

muffin's seem far more damning to me, idk

[Staeg]

Dunn do people who get empowered by your role find out about it?

[Staeg]

Skygazer who did you neighborize? Because it certainly wasn't me

also wow geez mate we just had an exchange about this

[Staeg]

Checks out

Staeg, do you have an ability you can target every night?

sort of

[Staeg]

Who did Nacho target last night with the doctor? Am I understanding that ability correctly?

Me, and it's not a doctor, it hands out a BP vest (it hasn't been shot yet)

[Staeg]

So I do like this plan, although input from muffinman would b nice

[Staeg]

[Staeg]

It's a night action the effects of which are a ~mystery~

[Staeg]

nice profile pic skygazer

[Staeg]

a curse upon your entire bloodline

[Staeg]

Deadline in 3 days boys

[Staeg]

pinky promise

b-but

[Staeg]

no lynch just seems safer, I don't think we're dealing with poisoning shenanigans, although there is a missing kill last night
hmmmm

[Staeg]

uh, it's probably just dunnstral tbh

glorious

[Staeg]

vote: No Lynch

[Staeg]

ok no

unvote
Illuminate: zMuffinMan

[Staeg]

Ok team we have <24h left to figure out this mechanism, apparently whatever I did made me vote Dunn

[Staeg]

Gemini Talking to Virgo

These are Skygazer's and Muffin's

Also, Fate, the 1st post is massively out of date with the living-list and whatnot

[Staeg]

unvote
Vote: Skygazer

[Staeg]

"You know there's....ultimately nothing you can do. Can you stop trying to save the world for a day and relax?"
"I won't know that until I die. I don't want to wake up and realize I could've done more."
"...kay..."

time running out looks like the bitch way down

[Staeg]

Just don't use it tomorrow if so

>_>

<_<

[Staeg]

I definitely now want to lynch muffins

[Staeg]

All aboard

[Staeg]

I'm pretty sure that vote won't actually land on Muffin

[Staeg]

ehaehaehaehaehha

[Staeg]

Gifts from Heaven? Or the Light at the end of Times?

WELL WHICH IS IT, FATE?

[Staeg]

Well if nothing happens I think Dunn just towntold with that unvote

it actually made me more paranoid tbf

If I were to go full conspiracy I'd say it's interesting that Nacho's role pm said they knew each other to be orderly or whatever it said but I think muffin was just trying to coast until the no lynch

I noticed this at some point on N3 when I was contemplating the option that nacho's actually scum somehow, but nope it's just fancy wording, confirmed

[Staeg]

I was fairly convinced we'd become survivor lovers at some point due to memes, but instead I unlocked magical powers

[Staeg]

Which are not necessarily beneficial <_>

[Staeg]

WOW YOU GUYS HAD THE BALLS TO LYNCH KURIBO"S SLOT?

AM IMPRESSED

I swear--

[Staeg]

Ok so what did the scum roles do?

[Staeg]

Staeg Underworld (Protects) LLD is roleblocked

lmao

I didn't know what my abilities do and they were compulsory ::::D

[Staeg]

Oh what, the scumteams were immune to each other, amazing

[Staeg]

I guess that's fair

[Staeg]

Also, attempted precommitment for next game: being less lackadaisical about anyone and everyone's anything, taking notes on what I think so that I don't end up cog-dissing as hard in-thread and a general shift of tone away from no-punctuation sentences

Whenever the next game is, I'll get to see how that fares for my life expectancy