Mini 2034: DnD uPick (Town Victory!)

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hai

VOTE: maria

Clearly opportunistic scum jumping on the largest wagon.

VOTE: Wisdom

Someone so wise should have known better.

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my 3ds died and my charger doesn't ship until tuesday :[

i got 2-day shipping....... on wednesday..... and it just like openly said in checkout "yup thisll get here on the 9th"

Right, so it means that it won't ship until the 7th, hence you still get 2 day shipping. It doesnt ever say you will get this item 2 days from when you checkout and pay no matter what.

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wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

What would you want us to say?

"AHHHHH SCUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1" and point fingers at you while the rest of the town gets pitchforks and torches?

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I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

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Also, I'm going to let Keychain mostly play the game on her own until she's consensus town then step in.

I don't really feel like posting and being scumread this game :shrug:

Hiding behind your hydra partner to avoid a scum read. For anyone other than RC this would be suspect, but given that it is RC I get it.

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less risk of referencing talking w/ mod

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And then avoid trying to figure out if the person who "spoke" with the mod actually did or not.

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Yes, in order to emulate characters learning more about their chosen profession as they adventure they can gain experience points which translate into levels. Wizards and other casters learn more spells and can cast more, rogues improve their stealthy capabilities and skill knowledge, and so on. Everything from combat to socializing can reward experience provided there is some sort of challenge to overcome! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

I think it is obvious that this translates to gaining abilities pertaining to role, and I can only presume that the enemy getting stronger and out of control can make the game unwinnable for us?

You're just assuming? I thought you had some kind of info.

I feel like it is a safe assumption based on how DnD is played and how it could translate here. If you dont have any conflicting info why do you feel the need to throw shade at the verbose player?

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Yes, in order to emulate characters learning more about their chosen profession as they adventure they can gain experience points which translate into levels. Wizards and other casters learn more spells and can cast more, rogues improve their stealthy capabilities and skill knowledge, and so on. Everything from combat to socializing can reward experience provided there is some sort of challenge to overcome! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

I think it is obvious that this translates to gaining abilities pertaining to role, and I can only presume that the enemy getting stronger and out of control can make the game unwinnable for us?

VOTE: Saske

Thou surely knows the art of shit post or reads day one yes?

Good do those. Otherwise you’re try harding.

You obviously missed their post in the signup thread. It was exactly as showy as it is here. At least do a modicum of checking before voting someone based off posting style.

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Okay SO apparently the leveling system is not public information!

So I guess only my role has knowledge of its existence WHICH makes sense! ^_^

Tinfoil hat theory, you are scum and didnt realize that only you guys had that part of the game explained to you. You spoke to it before your buddies could tell you not to. Now you are stuck in an odd position.

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uwu hi VOTE: lovebirg

my 3ds died and my charger doesn't ship until tuesday :[

i got 2-day shipping....... on wednesday..... and it just like openly said in checkout "yup thisll get here on the 9th"

do u... do u need a charger

i can order u one

NO it is not an issue with the chrager as far as I can perceive - I have FULLY charged it but it just doesent turn on? (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ

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i think rightknight and koki??? r town

hi keychain : )

which of these 5 posts to you makes schadd town

I like this line of questioning. Anyone getting a tr off these post is seeing something the rest of us arent. I was noticing that he was talking about a lot of nongame related stuff as well, but figured it was early game and as long as it didnt keep up that it would probably be NAI. This is questioning I see myself doing if it werent done already.

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HOW am I in an odd position? (・_・ヾ

I mean in this theory you are scum who has knowledge of a mechanic that isnt known to the town. So in this case the odd position would be you claiming to have info about how the game works when no one else does. Like I said maybe you thought this was info we'd all have and now you have to backtrack a bit to save face.

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I felt that he was more likely to pick my vote if he townread me for my entrance as town and also feel like he is opening himself to be interactive! ^_^

So not really a specific post it is JUST an emotional leveling with the content he has posted so far

The more I read the top part the more confused it get.

The more I read the bottom the more I think this is coming from scum.

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havent done anything rown ondcotive

I like this. I think questions about trs come more from town than scum. For obvious reasons. I know that this is something that can easily be manipulated but as far as moves to make as scum this has a relatively low risk/reward factor. As scum I'd take the tr silently and just let it sit out there, maybe even set a trap by letting someone else point out the bad tr in the first place, then team up with the second person to vote the first. Wait, did I just talk myself into not liking the post while replying to it. Nah, I'm just drinking to much of the wine in front of me.

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Also iirc one of the other hydras here contains FormerFish? Hi Fish!

::waves:: hola! You comfortable with RC hiding under your skirt?

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in fact i believe ff is the one posting!!

I am, I'll be the much more active head of the Hydra. I have no life and am addicted to my phone and arguing with random people on the internet.

Someone please help me.

Hahahahha.

Seriously.

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wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

What would you want us to say?

"AHHHHH SCUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1" and point fingers at you while the rest of the town gets pitchforks and torches?

Yes infact that would've been a super entertaining result that I would've loved

Well it can't happen right now. The pitchforks are having their thines sharpened and the torches are being rewrapped. The best we could have done on such short notice was stick lighters and sporks.

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@Fromerfish

I am familiar with schadd and that is just how I initially perceived his posts, especially since because he is significantly less talkative as scum ヾ(｡･ω･)ｼ

I do not possess belief he is the kind of person whom would buddy me eithre so ya

Can you show a scum game of his? I would like to see what significantly more quiet is.

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I have no life and am addicted to my phone and arguing with random people on the internet.

(o´艸`)

I find this relatable!

Are those all faces or is that another language?

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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75388

He played this under the alt of "Katherine" ヽ(　･∀･)ﾉ

I mean I guess I see what you are saying. Same point of the game schadd had 6 posts to 15 here. I dunno if one example a rule make though, however i can see where you would start with that idea.

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wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

What would you want us to say?

"AHHHHH SCUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1" and point fingers at you while the rest of the town gets pitchforks and torches?

Yes infact that would've been a super entertaining result that I would've loved

Well it can't happen right now. The pitchforks are having their thines sharpened and the torches are being rewrapped. The best we could have done on such short notice was stick lighters and sporks.

Tsk and I thought you'd be the

fun

hydra

Listen, we will roll deep with bics and safety forks if that's what's needed. I mean just remember that the answer is Messiah Complex, and the questions what's poppin?

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And SOREY schadd I did not know you were still concealing that alt

Did you really just out that alt? Tell me its one that was in question for awhile and you just casually did that. Classic.

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ff kinda looks town 2 me

I kinda feel like this is a test. Is this a test? Like if I dont say anything after what I said earlier than how can you trust anything I say?

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havent done anything rown ondcotive

I like this. I think questions about trs come more from town than scum. For obvious reasons. I know that this is something that can easily be manipulated but as far as moves to make as scum this has a relatively low risk/reward factor. As scum I'd take the tr silently and just let it sit out there, maybe even set a trap by letting someone else point out the bad tr in the first place, then team up with the second person to vote the first. Wait, did I just talk myself into not liking the post while replying to it. Nah, I'm just drinking to much of the wine in front of me.

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I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

I pick neither since I townread both of you.

~~Castle

Why are you townreading a slot with 2 posts and like a max of 10 words?

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Maria HOW do you feel about Lovebird?

I did not ask you because I like a narrow focus. I am trying to figure out if you have knowledge you shouldn’t.

Are you claiming that I shouldn't know anything about Dungeons and Dragons...?? HOW does that even make sense...

Also schadd I think Eragon is town can you explain that read?

No. I am trying to figure out if you are scum with mechanics knowledge. The shade when the context is clear is entirely unwarranted. You’re trying to make me seem ridiculous.

~~Castle

Saskes reaction to this was especially bad when you think about the fact that ive pointed out twice to them that the situation in question (them having knowledge about game mechanics specific to this mafia game) is a definite possibility and something that we might have to address sooner than later.

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are u tring tatl or tael

Arent they the same?

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do u possess a response to me

I am initiating to embody the thalposis that reading is not the strong suit of this playerlist (‘д’)

Most of us just speak a form of english that is not as evolved as yours. There have been a few posts from people where i literally have no vlue what that they are saying.

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I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

I pick neither since I townread both of you.

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Why are you townreading a slot with 2 posts and like a max of 10 words?

It’s actually less.

Because it’s Kokichi.

Is this like a "they are town until they arent" type of thing?

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If we had unlimited levels we would have unlimited days. If we had unlimited days it wouldn’t be a game.

Then how do you explain other people being confused WHEN I stated there was a limit? The intuitive thing ot the theme is that we can all get to level 20 and nothing else happens after that - but that is not the case.

And I understand your prospective but I think it will be clear to everyone on the next day. BUT if other people would like me to claim then I will at this rate (´-｀)

I think the issue is that most of us have no idea what you are talking about because none of the details about anything you know is known to us. I know that my role pm says nothing about levels or even the ability for us to get any abilities. It seems like other people are in my boat and no one is in your boat. Feel me?

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are u tring tatl or tael

Arent they the same?

"from which head does the read source"

I know what you were asking, sorta. What I am saying is why would it matter which head the read was coming from? Do you trust their ability to read one head over the other? If the answer is one over the other what would that tell you? For me being part of a hydra is playing as one person. I know that isnt possible 100% but there shouldnt be much deviation from a base for the slot itself.

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i was trying to investigate saskeismyyaoikismesis's thought process for townreading a slot

Ok, and what do you get from Saske saying tr on both, but slight nod to key?

ninja- desp is probably working. I didnt feel like I needed to wait after I saw our role pm. This is kinda what i do anyways and it helps me gain reads in the moment. He'll catch up and start pointing out things I missed while I was poking people.

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Also iirc one of the other hydras here contains FormerFish? Hi Fish!

::waves:: hola! You comfortable with RC hiding under your skirt?

I mean, yeah. I think it's probably a good idea to let me front for now for several reasons. Are you not?

Hiding behind your hydra partner to avoid a scum read. For anyone other than RC this would be suspect, but given that it is RC I get it.

I am going to miss his shit posting and the stream of consciousness posting that somehow leads him to fingering the scum team. Get your minds out of the gutters people, thats just gross.

Anyone reasonably familiar with us would probably boost their accuracy by reading us separately, because they can use their own knowledge of how we play. So it's a good question.

Thats fair, I had a glimmer of a thought that might have been more but I cant seem to pin it down to something I can verbalize. I guess I can let it lie for now since I cant describe it in a better way.

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VOTE: Messiah

115 is scummy. And, the rest of his posts on that page aren't really saying anything.

So my RVS vote is scummy to you? Tell me more.

And shit posting before everyone checks in and starts playing? Is this like new site meta? Why do people keep pushing me for stuff like this in every game I play? Im doing stuff, you just dont see it. Dont shit on me because you dont see it.

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I feel like it is a safe assumption based on how DnD is played and how it could translate here. If you dont have any conflicting info why do you feel the need to throw shade at the verbose player?

Wtf? Wasn't shade. Seemed like she had some info but then she said assuming.

This is scummy.

I see it as shade because you dont have any information that contradicts what they said, yet you felt the need to neg it anyways. You dont say its scummy, you just try to discredit. That to me is throwing shade. Keep using broad terms to describe how we are so scummy though, this is fun.

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115 was obviously a joke
whats scummy about it

Ya, it's a joke. But, he could've looked for something meaningful instead of joking when it's page 4. He doesn't say something really meaningful the whole page.

Dude, I just started playing. I checked to make sure that there wasnt a weird page 2 wagon and voted wisdom as a hello. A game we both played in just ended and we died before he replaced in (I think, I honestly stopped paying attention after the n1 death) so we didnt get to talk there. And if you are worried about meaningful posts why are you singling me out when others were just as guilty of shit posting in those first few pages. Most of the stuff you are accusing me of posting is in response to others posts.

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wait we can gain powers?

Scummy

Why? Its real easy to quote a post and say scummy because then it kinda puts it on us to try and think about what you are thinking about. Explain why you see this as scum and maybe we will see what you see, otherwise it just seems like you throwing mud and seeing what sticks, or who picks up your torch and runs with it.

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vote: lovebird

don't like how quickly he dropped us for ceejay, looks like scum going for an edgy read and pivoting to something easier when it doesn't gain any traction

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vote: lovebird

don't like how quickly he dropped us for ceejay, looks like scum going for an edgy read and pivoting to something easier when it doesn't gain any traction

Desp voted here. He just used bold instead of the vote tag.

If that doesn't count then I can revote here.

VOTE: LOVE

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wait we can gain powers?

Scummy

Wtf why?
I also didn't know that was possible
Like what's wrong with voicing a question in thread?

Showed she wasn't really reading the thread. And, could be feigning ignorance. Though, I don't really scumread Maria anymore.

This is a weird leap to make imo. I looked at Maria's iso and she had like 6 posts after the one you called scummy. Nothing blew me away in any of them, and then she votes you. You then say you no longer sr her. Why? It's hard to follow anything you're saying because it just looks like your reads are a pendulum swinging back and forth with nothing to back them.

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Btw, I thought that earlier post from you was scummy but I think you're town now.

Sorry I missed this masterpiece.

You still fail to show any reasoning for the switch in read. And this is even worse since it takes out like 4 of the 6 posts I was assuming you were reading her for.

Why was her post scummy in the first place and why is your read on her switched now?

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It feels a *LITTLE* self-aware, like 156 kinda being scared about being caught in a reaction test? I dont think its scummy per-say, but it strikes me as odd.

That part was a joke. I mentioned to schadd earlier in game that questioning baseless townreads is a good thing imo. He then tred me without saying why. Think of it as more Rodney Dangerfield than coked up charlie sheen.

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And she answered already


Isn’t it a bt wirrd that he’s asking AGAIN

She said Ye!

If whatever Kom is doing requires a yes or no response then that response might not make it past the Jeopardy Judges. They are sticklers for proper responses.

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And she answered already


Isn’t it a bt wirrd that he’s asking AGAIN

She said Ye!

If whatever

Kom

Kok is doing requires a yes or no response then that response might not make it past the Jeopardy Judges. They are sticklers for proper responses.

ebwop

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And that proves that there’s something too it.

I know for a fact that I, as town or as scum, would not want to do something knowing something, but not what, will happen

That’s why I asked if a killing effect happens
Becuase then I’d be suspicious

If it’s not killing, then Maria should answer

I have seen lie detectors before (I think), I have never seen a role that could cause the death of someone with a word that the victim themselves say.

And Dunns question is a valid one. If she was willing to answer before why is it an issue to say a specific word. Kok even said the it could be quoted, so it wouldnt have to be actually said.

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Ye does not mean yes. It is an old form of You or The.

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Imma steal this page top.

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GDI I WAS JUST ABOUT TO DO THAT!!!

*glares at Messiah*

I figured you had when I saw your name as the most recent poster in Coney. I came in and saw a lonely little page top in need of posting. And I posted this shit out of it too.

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And that proves that there’s something too it.

I know for a fact that I, as town or as scum, would not want to do something knowing something, but not what, will happen

That’s why I asked if a killing effect happens
Becuase then I’d be suspicious

If it’s not killing, then Maria should answer

I have seen lie detectors before (I think), I have never seen a role that could cause the death of someone with a word that the victim themselves say.

And Dunns question is a valid one. If she was willing to answer before why is it an issue to say a specific word. Kok even said the it could be quoted, so it wouldnt have to be actually said.

It was because it was unassuming earlier.

the second time being questioned for "are you town" is awkward and you want to know whats gonna happen

And why are

you

picking up this sword for

her

?

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because I dont see why its such a big deal that she won't say "yes im town" for a SECOND time

So did you miss where I pointed out that Ye means you or the, and not yes?

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I think you are missing the point. It doesnt matter what the speaker meant. If the mod has something specific written into a role then it needs to be done in that way. If you get an answer to the question of effect would you then advocate Maria answer?

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Im still confused about why this is something you felt the need to insert yourself into. If Maria has such a problem with it she can engage Kok directly. This defense by proxy is weird.

ninja-

Kok, if maria says yes, or yeah will she die or be injured/nerfed?

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Maria answer this question with a yes or no. Nothing else. Answer with a quote.

Are you town?

oooh ooh can I has the question?

~~Castle

You dont share Eragons aversion to this question?

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I mean, I guess I am hoping that he will just come back and say no, he would just be able to tell if shes lying.

I suppose maybe we wait for him to chime back in before we delve into pointless speculation based on nothing really.

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I find it odd the want Koki has pushing maria to claim?

Asking her to claim that shes not mafia? Tragic

hm I said ye! That sure seems to be me claiming I'm not mafia to me

Ye does not mean yes. It is an old form of You or The.

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Pedit: Please do not play dumb like you don't know what I'm talking about.

How am I playing dumb? Koki literally said you could say "yes" or "yeah." Do you think that this is something he has made a sticking point? Or is it more likely that his role is written in such a way that for whatever he wants to do there is a required set of events needing to take place first.

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affirmative

I feel like this should work as affirmative is a form of yes.

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https://epicmafia.com/role/1207

Thats fair, ive never seen one in play. And it looks like the word would need to be a little longer and probably one not as common as yes.

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https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Voodoo_Doll_(3.5e_Spell)

Voodoo Doll
Necromancy [Evil]
Level: Assassin 2, Cleric 2, Sorcerer/Wizard 2
Components: V, S, F
Casting time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One corporeal living creature
Duration: Concentration, up to 1 minute/level (D)
Saving Throw: Will negates and Fortitude partial; See text
Spell Resistance: Yes
Cross the heart, hope they die, stick a needle in their eye.

If a target fails the save against this spell, the doll you hold in your hand takes on an appearance like them. You may proceed to push pin needles into the doll, subsequently injuring the actual creature. When the creature fails the save you can immediately push a pin in, and another each round as a standard action. Pins deal 1d6 points of damage per 2 caster levels (maximum 10d6 at 20th), and have an additional effect depending where you stab the target. The creature needs to possess the appropriate body part.

Arm: The target takes a -4 penalty to attack rolls.
Body: The target takes a -4 penalty to AC.
Face: The target takes a 20% miss chance as its partly blinded.
Leg: The target's non-fly speeds are halved.
Tail: The target takes a -10 penalty to Balance and Jump checks.
Throat: The target takes a 20% chance to be unable to speak, acting as spell failure for vocal component spells.
Wing: The target's fly speeds are halved.

Also does this look like something you'd just want to dive head first into doing without question? I feel like it's reasonable for me to perk an eyebrow here.

I barely understand what any of that means. No one in this hydra has ever played d&d. We are here because our last game stalled in signups.

I doubt Kok would so brazenly fuck you up here though. It would be as close to suicide that a scummer could make at this point.

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I'm trying to sync up with desp right now, but we are on opposite schedules for a day or so. I should be able to nail him down tomorrow sometime and Ill be around all weekend.

Which head of TnT keeps calling us charismatic? I think ive seen you say that twice now. What does that even mean and why is that something you have never used to describe me before?

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We are here. Busy weekend. Finally caught up with Desp.

I really dislike the push on me based off activity. Like RC knows much better than that. I don't lurk as scum. I barely lurk as town. I do go inactive as both alignments because of life and shit.

Also, the idea that we are good as scum so lynch us now regardless is laughable. It is the same exact way that people treat RC that he hates, but feels like it's an ok way to read us? I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

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that's really not the same as you being good at scum it was referring to you being jovial and friendly as opposed to trying to hunt scum.

This is basically why I stopped townreading messiah yeah - his initial posts were ok and I thought some of the things he pushed his first set of posts were believable thoughts but i don't get why that just fizzles out as the hydra gets less active. Real life happens but you don't stop scumhunting just because of that.

I will probably get around to posting something more significant later, there are a few things I want to reread and see if things have settled for me. I know what you mean about my activity. I was pretty jazzed that this game was starting because of what had happened with the games before. I came out with a bang because of that and then expected to be able to keep up the pace, but scheduling conflicts and Desp having trouble getting into the game left the posting on my shoulders for the most part, and I do have a lot of shit going on myself, which is why I was really looking forward to having him there as well. We talked tonight though and have a better understanding of where the other is.

I really dgaf if this sounds like an excuse, it just is what it is. Thats why our days last as long as they do and we are able to pop in and out. I will do a full catch up post and will try to answer the questions about the composition of our wagon. Is it still just 3 votes strong? Love, TnT and Schadd right?

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like why even make a fucking list of whose voting you, if it matters to you why not say 'oh I have three votes' why are you specifically showing everyone in the game that you haven't noticed that SIMYK is voting you?

Jesus christ, because those were the votes that desp mentioned seeing on us when we talked. Like I was legit asking if there were more votes on us. Its weird, its almost like you could have mentioned that we had another one on us instead of doing what you are doing.

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So you didn't look at the thread when making that post?

not a loaded question that's basically what you're implying

No, I am not fully caught up in the thread. I am about 9 pages behind in comprehension and a few pages closer in skimming.

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We are here. Busy weekend. Finally caught up with Desp.

I really dislike the push on me based off activity. Like RC knows much better than that. I don't lurk as scum. I barely lurk as town. I do go inactive as both alignments because of life and shit.

Also, the idea that we are good as scum so lynch us now regardless is laughable. It is the same exact way that people treat RC that he hates, but feels like it's an ok way to read us? I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

okay so instead of posturing why don't you apply that notion to reading the gamestate

who's the scum pushing you? just lovebird? why is her push here more likely scum than misguided town if she's still scum to you?

more importantly, assuming you still scumread lovebird, is the scumteam hardpushing you as a counterwagon? if not what are they doing right now

Your post was literally right after mine, I saw it when I refreshed the thread at some point. It was a good idea and something I wanted to make sure to look into.

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@ rc why do you want to lynch gamma? his replace in looks town to me

@ wis in a scumbird world who else is scum?

@ kokichi how many people can you voodoo a day?

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i've played with gamma quite a bit ya

@wis eragon is interesting, is that new or did you just chose not to voice it when people were townreading them?

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Ok. I skimmed everything to get caught up since I saw the vote count rise a little. If the count is correct and eargon is as well we have l-1 on us. We are town, if you can give us this night some of you will figure that out first hand.

But if you theives can't do that then by all means I hope you figure out something worthwhile from our mislynch.

RC what exactly is your case on us? I'd look but slouging through your iso isn't something I want to do.

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Why

RC is loud.

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