Mini 2032: Children of Hurin Mafia - Game Over

MariaR · Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:37 am

In post 1816, Wisdom wrote:what

A full ungated watcher is broken and I would've fully used that to my advantage and just have someone investigate FA_Q2 instead of risking the lynch
Pedit: Kokichi

MariaR · Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:40 am

gonna assume the salt is NAI and wait for a flip I still think Kokichi makes a good scum partner with FA_Q given he just said "lol whatever" and jumped on that wagon
Pedit: Is it so hard to believe in my read on gamma?

MariaR · Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:35 am

VOTE: Kokichi

MariaR · Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:36 am

(Kokichi/Gamma/Ceejay)

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:31 am

I'm rethinking Gamma because I refuse to believe that hammer wasn't planned and the only people left on that wagon are me mememand and gamma
and don't try and tell me nancy hydra was scum

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:29 am

If you wanna call me scum for it sure.

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:29 am

I'm not gonna stop assuming it is though

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:33 am

In post 1877, Wisdom wrote:I guess it makes sense if youre scum with gamma

Wanna lynch gamma then?

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:34 am

In post 1878, Wisdom wrote:Now tell me why scum kokichi brings up the supposedly towny faqt claim when he got eyes on him the first time he did it

Why don't you tell me why he wouldn't.

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:36 am

Why are you acting this way rn?

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:39 am

You're acting like certain actions are impossible for scum.
Scum kokichi is in poe yes? So he'd have to do certain actions to get out of said poe bringing up risky stuff like that is what I would expect from him. Yet here you are acting like it's impossible.
Also if you were so worried about the planned hammer I brought up just because you disagree with my logic I don't get why you wouldn't have said so sooner. If I wouldn't already locked into my poe I'd prob be voting you for the agenda it looks like you have.
Oh well Kokichi Gamma is the scumteam most likely so I can chalk it down as you being you.

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:41 am

Scum Kokichi always omgus scum reads me back when I stop townreading him because he knows I've caught him and he can't convince me otherwise. (See how I voted him and he suddenly starts to press me) I'm confident in that read and Gamma I guess is scum because it isn't Meme man. So I don't really care what order we go in as long as it's one after the other.
Pedit: Kokichi has more votes if gamma gets more I'll hop on easy.

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:45 am

mmm no

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:45 am

Guess I'll stick on Kokichi then *shrug*

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:46 am

I don't really care if you think it's scummy for me thinking I'm correct. The team is gamma/Kokichi and If you wanna get in the way by all means.

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:49 am

Wisdom are you sick btw.

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:51 am

Nvm.
Why is Nero gamma's partner

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:54 am

Alright this conversation is getting nowhere you've just proven what I already thought.
Away I go

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:15 pm

gamma kokichi and ceejay wagons?
Is it Christmas already

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:27 pm

I was gonna answer your post kokichi and then I started reading and forgetting tbh. I'm not scum
remember what we talked about? If you think I'm scum quote points why and start pushing it. You think I'm scummy say why vote me and push it

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:29 pm

In post 1906, Kokichi Oma wrote:Maria you realize for me to be scum with gamma. It means at L-2 gamna!slot voted Pork to L-1 and I threatened to hammer pork, causing him to hammer himself.

In post 1907, Kokichi Oma wrote:So both scum partners caused pork to self hammer?

While...I can see how this is somewhat unlikely it makes me want to vote ceejay cause he's the only one I'm not townreading but Gamma is voting ceejay and does a scum gamma/ceejay team do this? Prob not. So maybe you/ceejay? mmmm that doesn't seem to click either. So that'd mean I'm wrong in my townreads but where would that be

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:29 pm

In post 1917, Kokichi Oma wrote:I think gamma and nero are scum. Gamma I've been pushing on for 3 days and gave reasons so not sure why you are bringing that up now.

hm I had it in my mind you were scumreading me for a bit.
VOTE: Gamma
I guess this just answers the most questions

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:30 pm

Like I don't really care what gamma flips and I can see it being either way. That scares me because I've never had a "gamma will flip either" read it's always "Gamma will flip X"

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:32 pm

Na mostly I've accepted the fact you will never have a tr on me in a game where I'm town and you're town so I just expect you to be scum tring me or town incorrect on me

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:33 pm

I don't remember that post at all tbh

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:34 pm

wait I questioned you on calling me town yeah ok. So why did I go back to thinking you sr me. hmmmmm

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:35 pm

Hm I don't really know although by the way you're talking and your tone with me it doesn't seem like you do tr me

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:37 pm

Alright then.
Kokichi are you town?

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:39 pm

I'm trying to be srs here you little fk >_>

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:40 pm

I've had just a little moment where I think you will always sr me for whatever I do if I'm town and you will tr me whenever you're scum and that's not really healthy so I'm just gonna start from the bottom when it comes to you.

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:46 pm

In post 1934, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1920, MariaR wrote:Like I don't really care what gamma flips and I can see it being either way. That scares me because I've never had a "gamma will flip either" read it's always "Gamma will flip X"
Really? I swear you’ve had some major apathy moments with me
Also are you seriously going to question your read on me because of VCA that I’ve already demonstrated has another possible explanation?
Actually, I need to consider something

Look your death answers more questions then most. I am questioning my read because I think that self hammer was planned with scum on the wagon the A50 death shocked me but that could be my paranoia

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:46 pm

In post 1933, Kokichi Oma wrote:My role PM states I am indeed town.

How do you feel about ceejay?
Why is Nero a sr for you? He's my 2nd top tr besides Meme man

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:58 pm

In post 1900, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1885, MariaR wrote:just because you disagree with my logic I don't get why you wouldn't have said so sooner.
have we not already established that if Wisdom doesn't get his way he throws a temper tantrum and calls you scum?

Let's play devil's advocate though, why was Nancy town?

Nancy was way too passionate to not believe what she was saying same with the worst.
To be frank the worst scum is a doormat he wasn't a doormat here

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:59 pm

What meta?
I just skimmed and don't see it

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:02 pm

Oh that was directed at you? LOOOOOOL

MariaR · Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:03 pm

Kokichi don't you just lurk and not post as town?

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:47 pm

Kaede is proven to be Sakura lol

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:51 pm

She's admitted so a lot of times just go check out games.
Besides we already know my danganronpa alt is Maki.

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:52 pm

I suggest lynching Gamma here creature. I understand the kokichi scumread somewhat.

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:01 pm

In post 2031, Creature wrote:My problem with Gamma is he's in like 10 games and I've had games with him where he did nothing

I feel like a gamma lynch answers the most questions. we have 1 ml left gamma is in poe and if we had an invest I would've assumed they'd be on gamma already.
I think it has a chance of being mafia and if not the result isn't so bad either

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:04 pm

Idk if it's wise for me to claim

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:13 pm

In post 2043, Creature wrote:
In post 2041, MariaR wrote:Idk if it's wise for me to claim
Luckily there's Wisdom to save the day

Right, Wisdom?

Fair. Doubt wisdom would bg me though.

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:34 pm

it's sad because he's not wrong

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:05 pm

In post 2089, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2004, Creature wrote:I heavily believe Kaede is MariaR
No, I’m preeeetty sure they’ve been in a game together (it’s possible Maria was on one of her 4 alts)

4....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:07 pm

In post 2092, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2028, MariaR wrote:She's admitted so a lot of times just go check out games.
Besides we already know my danganronpa alt is Maki.
...You forget Sonia.

SHUT UP GAMMA

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:37 pm

Alright let's get this over with

I'm a partly cop

Gamma and Wisdom are dif sides.
N1: Wisdom
N2: Gamma

Let's go

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:42 pm

I'm checking Kokichi tonight.
Kokichi who's town and who's scum to you rn

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:54 pm

It's Parity.
Same thing

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:56 pm

Now I

know

that's a lie.

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:19 pm

In post 2105, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2099, MariaR wrote:Alright let's get this over with

I'm a partly cop

Gamma and Wisdom are dif sides.
N1: Wisdom
N2: Gamma

Let's go
Nice fake claim. If you had this you wouldn't have voted me today lol

It was about getting reactions was it not?

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:23 pm

In post 2112, Kokichi Oma wrote:Wait voting me or the claim

Voting.

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:24 pm

You don't just out guilty claims (or highly likely anyway) at day start

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:25 pm

In post 2106, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2100, MariaR wrote:I'm checking Kokichi tonight.
Kokichi who's town and who's scum to you rn
I'll reveal that tomorrow

Why can't you tell me who you tr

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:35 pm

HEY GAMMA SLIPPED.
FA OUTTED A WATCHER RESULT THAT NO ONE VISIT'D ME N1

MariaR · Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:36 pm

In post 1686, FA_Q2 wrote:I have. There just is not a whole lot of point of saying anything to you at all.

I targeted maria. And that information does nothing for you at all. It made for nice theater while you tried to look like you were doing something useful though.

In post 1692, FA_Q2 wrote:no one visited

MariaR · Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:53 am

I target someone and get told if they're the same fraction as the person I checked the night before

MariaR · Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:44 am

Can do!

MariaR · Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:55 am

VOTE: Ceejay
He's dif from Gamma so innocent

MariaR · Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:04 am

*Shrug* who cares it's le gg.

MariaR · Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:55 pm

Um Wisdom is already town due to my check

MariaR · Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:33 pm

MariaR · Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:20 pm

I don't mind if we nl doesn't really change the outcome to me

MariaR · Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:36 am

This feels stupidly town sided even though we didn't really need all of it

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:14 am

Meme man is innocent

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:17 am

well same as nero so ie innocent.
this is blah
Pedit: Yup I'm rechecking my results rn

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:21 am

Yeah I have all innocent results.
I prob should've expected this when Kokichi died over wisdom when I outted a guilty

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:23 am

In post 2286, Nero Cain wrote:She also kinda makes sense as scum with Gamma b/c she kept saying to trust her on her Gamma read.

To answer this it's because I was checking gamma the night I said trust because well obv yeah trust my read if I'm gonna have a result on him. Given I softed I had a result on wisdom n1

In post 1014, MariaR wrote:Like do I wanna lynch Gamma? No. But if it's Gamma or Wisdom I'm gonna wagon gamma here

I voted Wisdom d2 once because I felt "oh if I kill my result I'll get a conf town or scum" but that didn't really feel worth it when we could've had conf town at the time. So I kept asking to wagon gamma instead

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:25 am

I do not think nancy/the worst slot can do half the shit they did as scum. Nancy is pretty easy to poke at and easy to provoke. Unless you guys wanna tell me what they did that seemed fake/scum agenda as the only thing that comes to mind for me is the early d1 defend of frozen (that's really it though) I don't see them as scum. I think it's best I go "if there scum gg wp" and focus on the other 2

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:34 am

no way a hider and a cop are in this game together but I'll let you finish.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:35 am

The fact Nero didn't auto sus me is strange if he's a hider.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:36 am

In post 2197, Nero Cain wrote:
vote:ceejay

Why did you vote ceejay here if you hid behind him the night before. DA SLIP BOYS
VOTE: Nero

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:41 am

Ngl I was prob gonna be voting you Wisdom before that claim because I didn't think we had a bodyguard and a doctor in this game but this set up is wonky clearly anyway

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:41 am

In post 2304, Nero Cain wrote:you hava am inno on me so....

also im not weak so...

Aren't hiders naturally weak? Also I have an inno on every player.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:47 am

I'ma go try to find some games with hiders because I'm pretty sure all hiders were/are weak
Pedit: Same

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:50 am

It would help if the games I'm looking at aren't from 2013 and were more recent

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:55 am

In post 2313, Nero Cain wrote:no it doesn't.

Also, there's a supposed inno on me and this is a confirmed no GF game.

In post 5335, Jeanne11 wrote:Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics? No
so...whats the explanation for the inno? And why does Maria, as a town cop, ignore that?

I have an innocent result on everyone Nero. I wasn't even gonna vote you until you slipped like I was outright about to 1v1 wisdom. You got me good.
If we take your logic of not ignoring innos that means I can't ignore anyone.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:57 am

In post 0, T-Bone wrote:(for example,
Godfather,
Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine.

You just tried to say this game is conf to not have a god father like it's bastard but it's listed as not.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:01 am

If you're that type of hider why didn't you hide behind me on the night you hid behind ceejay? I was supposed to be bodyguarded I wasn't gonna die. ceejay a claimed protective had a higher chance of death than me.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:05 am

Can you explain your action? Also why do you think it's unlikely for meme or wisdom to be a godfather?

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:18 am

In post 2325, Nero Cain wrote:Why? You think im scum so what does it matter? You've either won as scum or lost as town.

Because I want to understand your actions in the off chance you're town. I don't think it's likely and you just slipped but if not for my sake you could explain it to wisdom/meme who you think are town.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:23 am

Why are you playing dumb and ignoring the thing I pointed out to you 3 times.
I have an inno on you
wisdom
and meme man
all of you are alive.
So I have to ignore all the innos

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:25 am

He claimed protective like at the start of d2 didn't he.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:26 am

And we already had wisdom claiming bodyguard so it wasn't hard to put together what he was trying to claim

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:28 am

In post 2328, THE MEME MEN wrote:So my prophecy last night confirmed there is in fact a godfather.

@Nero

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:29 am

In post 1397, ceejayvinoya wrote:Something is wrong with Wisdom's claim. I can't explain it properly tho

In post 1405, ceejayvinoya wrote:is it normal for a bg to be partnered with another protective?

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:32 am

Meme can you explain more about your prophecy to me? Like does it just give set up info or? Now that we know that the last scum is a godfather I don't know what other set up info you can get that would be helpful here. If you want to nl I get it but I think it might be better for us to just talk it over and lynch today? Unless it gives more then that
Pedit: Oh you give up?

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:33 am

Nero you prob could've got out of this if you didn't dumbtell so hard about everyone being inno and made up a better fake claim then hider but I'm guessing you didn't know all hiders were weak or you slipped.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:34 am

anyway gg you did well

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:38 am

OK WISDOM I GET IT YOU GOT THE SCUMTEAM AGAIN. >_>

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:51 am

meme he just gave up it's gg

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:54 am

In post 2353, Nero Cain wrote:see, told you maria was scum. she's trying to egg you onto hammering me.

I'm conf town nero.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:56 am

meme confirmed there's a godfather in the game so the inno's I have don't mean anything.
Pedit: that

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:02 am

In post 2360, Nero Cain wrote:and that stops Maria from being a GF and faking cop how?

Because then no cops would be in the game and I'd just be a mafia goon basically

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:03 am

In post 2365, Wisdom wrote:even when hes given up people dont wanna see hes scum

You just bg me if meme forces a nl and repeat it until nero dies.
pedit: YOU GAVE UP WHAT DO YOU MEAN

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:03 am

you gave up and then when meme comes around you're going like "just kidding?!?!?!?"

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:08 am

In post 2370, Nero Cain wrote:like your so desperate for my mislynch. Seems super scummy.

I think you're scum who slipped then conceded and then changed your mind yes I want your death. I'm conf town so is meme it's you or wisdom I made up my mind If you think I'm scum prove it to the others because what you're doing right now isn't working

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:15 am

So because he always beats you you're wanting to take a shot at me? Alright then

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:28 am

In post 2380, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2377, MariaR wrote:So because he always beats you you're wanting to take a shot at me? Alright then
no. I think you're scum for using a false premise to vote me with. I mean, ok yeah...I can see the logic in "Maria's a claimed cop and thus the claim is real b/c godfather" and maybe that makes me wrong. (What's stopping a mod from making a GF with no cop?) but all these confirmed roles and then a cop just seems a bit much.

And I understand how a lot of this power seems a bit much like I'd be a bit weirded out too. But from my pov a godfather makes sense to counter my role. Do you see how having a doctor bodyguard hider is a bit much from my pov?

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:37 am

In post 2389, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2385, MariaR wrote:Do you see how having a doctor bodyguard hider is a bit much from my pov?
Sure but that's not what you voted me for.

Let's say you didn't slip and you didn't try to concede. Why should I vote Wisdom over yourself.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:40 am

Mostly confidence level and I don't see how it's helpful given it's setup info and all the info is already out there? Like I don't think it's gonna say "we don't have a bodyguard/hider"

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:48 am

In post 2394, Nero Cain wrote:Well I mean, if you're voting me your voting town so you are either scum or wrong.

Is there any reason that you think a BG is more likely in this setup than a hinder?

No not really

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:02 am

In post 2402, Wisdom wrote:lol is left head nancy

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:05 am

Meme men you obv know what I want but I won't stop you. I'm confident in this I think nl is just delaying the win but *shrug* doesn't change it

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:06 am

I'm also scared of scum nero killing me and convincing you guys it's wisdom but hey that won't happen right...

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:57 pm

I don't mind the nl I just find it rather a delay a bit pointless and has a risk factor of I feel correct and I'm selfish *shrug* that's all mostly.

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:35 pm

@Meme I wasn't tring Wisdom infact I was prob gonna vote him before the Nero fuck up/claim. That was because of him being a bodyguard though. Neroes claim doesn't make much sense either but one of them is obv real. I've played with Wisdom scum and town many times. I lean town here. I think the best thing to do is go back and view there 1v1 and see who set up for the others ml more because one of the main reasons I was tring them is because of the 1v1 I didn't see them doing it as scum

MariaR · Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:52 pm

In post 2457, THE MEME MEN wrote:@Maria, if I get nightkilled tonight are you definitely lynching Nero?

@Wisdom, if you don't want to explain how to sort you generally, can you explain why I should townread you in this game specifically? Just in one sentence, "I am town because X reason."

-rh

Pretty much yeah

MariaR · Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:18 am

Hm? I'm not scum wtf

MariaR · Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:19 am

Did we really just lose with all these op as fuck town roles?

MariaR · Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:25 am

Imean we did lose a ML because lol godfather but really?

MariaR · Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:07 am

Gg was fun playing with you all of course la la la~

MariaR · Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:10 am

I'm just good at being scum is all this isn't new.

MariaR · Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:12 am

In post 2501, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1601, FA_Q2 wrote:I am your watcher. No information.

In post 1686, FA_Q2 wrote:I have. There just is not a whole lot of point of saying anything to you at all.

I targeted maria. And that information does nothing for you at all. It made for nice theater while you tried to look like you were doing something useful though.
And this was just a baffling investigation result in general.

Not sure why he thought Maria of all people would have been the most likely kill on Night 1.

I've got killed a lot early recently (shocker ik)
Pedit: Yeah it's pretty hard to read me because my scum range is so massive there's like 3 people I can easily say scare me when it comes to reading me. Thankfully none of them were here although I will say you were the most scary person here to me brain

MariaR · Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:15 am

In post 2504, Creature wrote:Have godfather fakeclaim investigative role
Have setup informator announce the existence of a godfather
Enjoy the win

From the scum pt.
Subject: CoH Mafia PT

MariaR wrote:Praying at this point meme man gets oracle info that a godfather is in this game

Subject: CoH Mafia PT

MariaR wrote:
In post 2328, THE MEME MEN wrote:So my prophecy last night confirmed there is in fact a godfather.
GOD IS REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MariaR · Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:52 pm

In post 2481, Katyusha wrote:Maria how many times have you fakeclaimed parity cop as scum LMFAO

once

MariaR · Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:00 pm

In post 2520, Katyusha wrote:
In post 2519, MariaR wrote:
In post 2481, Katyusha wrote:Maria how many times have you fakeclaimed parity cop as scum LMFAO
once
Wait just this game and ginngie’s?

Fsr I feel like you’ve done it more times lmao

yeah just those haha

MariaR · Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:58 pm