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or why she should have tracked gamma ...In post 2463, northsidegal wrote:shoshin if you are actually a 1 shot cop there is literally no reason why you should not have said so long, long ago
who tracks their inno because he fruit-vended to the person who died the night before?-
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cuz if you have an inno an gamma that like really helpful ...In post 2464, Shoshin wrote:Who cares about my claim? It doesn't matter.
why does this not matter?
i dont' get why you're using the fact that gamma gave fruit to creature as a reason to townread him and not, you know, the fact that you have an inno on him (an inno and a soft inno at that!)-
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not right nowIn post 2466, Shoshin wrote:Skitter, do you think NSG is scum or not?
or at least, enought hat i dont want to vote her today-
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why would he be 'caught visiting the nk again'? nobody caught him in the first place?In post 2462, skitter30 wrote:
this is incredibly strange wordingIn post 2442, Shoshin wrote:I used tracker on Gamma on N4 because I doubted my innocent result and wanted to seeif he'd be caught visiting the nightkill again(after the Creature thing).-
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wow you're frustrating to play withIn post 2472, Shoshin wrote:Then just lynch me, Skitter. You're either scum, or you're frustratingly narrow-minded beyond the point that I'm willing to deal with today. You're clearly not going to lynch the obvious scum in NSG. And you keep trying to cast suspicion onto obvious town Gamma. What's the point of us discussing anything?-
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a) sheIn post 2476, Gamma Emerald wrote:Skitter acts like him presenting the crumb against nsg makes him town
No it doesn’t, in MY FIRST EVER SCUM GAME, I had the idea to present something against my buddy to distance. If that type of play occurs to me as a raw newb, it certainly could occur to skitter. That’s not a reason to clear skitter, especially in this scenario
b) i really see no reason why i'd point at a rb guilty on my partner in mylo-
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In post 2500, Shoshin wrote:
Because results alone are very weak evidence. How many times do I have to say this? In my first town game on this site, I was investigated guilty despite being town. I was mislynched.In post 2498, skitter30 wrote:ok why were you most paranoid of him if you had an inno result on him? this is the part i'm not following
I've seen countless games where investigative results were wrong. I don't trust them. Period.In post 2501, Shoshin wrote:I do trust Varsoon saying he roleblocked NSG, no nightkill happening, and Gammagooey immediately killing him to prevent him from telling us who he roleblocked. That set of events is strongly indicative that NSG is scum.
ok this is what i was looking forIn post 2502, Shoshin wrote:Like, that's night/day vs me getting an innocent result on someone that could be a godfather or lawyered or when I could have been redirected or bus drove whatever.
i don't think shoshin is scum rn-
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because i don't process teh game the same way you doIn post 2499, Shoshin wrote:
Gamma's alignment doesn't turn on why I tracked him. You need to read Gamma on his own terms. I'm giving you the exact reasons why Gamma is town. You seem unable to accept the strong probabilistic evidence. Why?In post 2496, skitter30 wrote:i can believe that you strongly believed that
i don't understand why you tracked him the next night then
i think that giving creature the fruit the night he died is townie
i don't think it makes him 99% town and i def don't conftown him over it
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In post 2347, northsidegal wrote:it's not like anything was really sacrificed from that sequence of events. a fruit vend is pretty useless and unless they were concerned about some remaining investigative or something then using what they have in a series of events designed such that the complicated nature of things makes it look like they're not partnered is just the smart thing to do.In post 2353, northsidegal wrote:i mean i think this whole time we've also been assuming that shoshin has been telling the truth about having switcheroo but if shoshin and gamma are both scum that isn't even necessarily true, is it?In post 2360, northsidegal wrote:also honestly i think shoshin's most recent play (maybe even her play ever since around day 2 / 3) makes sense in the context of having some kind of strategy where even if you're scummy you still win - if i had that strategy then i would probably not really put in all that much effort because you just wouldn't even really need to. it might even be better tonotput in effort to get people to scumread you and buy into the lie of switcheroo and then lynch your claimed "target"
^^^ these onesIn post 2395, northsidegal wrote:also looking back there's the fact that shoshin's vote was the one that allowed him to self hammer rather than letting everyone agree on who would vote and get the gold-
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idk i kinda felt like they all fit together with a coherent pov
+ like in real-time going back to check her placement on gammagooey's; it felt like she thought of something new that she wanted to share sort of
like i could kinda track her thought process during that convo and it made a lot of sense to me
whereas initially with shoshin all i was thinking was ??????? like why did you do any of that; none of it made any sense to me till she went back and explained it-
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can you point to a place where rc wrote posts for you as scum?In post 2336, northsidegal wrote:skitter you said it doesn't make sense for me to think gamma is scum and also say that rc's townread clears me
even if you think we're both scum it still makes sense to lynch him first. also on a personal level rc would bus me if we were scum together rather than trying to clear me. i know this because that's what i would ask him to do and because something similar happened before when we rolled scum as a hydra. he could've ghostwritten posts for me but he didn't because it just made more sense for him to take control of the game himself.
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i'm thinking of this ^^^^ he was using it as a reason to show that you were town but as far as i can tell you only wrote like one post (or there was one post that you claimed to have written; for all i know he wrote that one idk); it appears to be him talking the rest of the time
also i'm not sure what rc ghostwriting posts for you has to do with telling me to townread you cuz he was while you're scumreading him-
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uh i'm not sure what it's indicative of that you accidentally voted shoshin like that (especially since you seem to be ascribing to scum!nsg and the scum!gamma) theory
probably that you aren't partners with her i guess
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that sounds like fun and i hope you have a great time!!!In post 2698, xyzzy wrote:
idk how many of you wished me luck, but your wishes helped and I'm officially going to Candlenights! yippeeIn post 2697, xyzzy wrote:btw y'all wish me luck buying a ticket to Candlenights in 20 minutes-
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i'm aware that part of this was my faultIn post 2742, Varsoon wrote:Trust, I think Skitter and Nos were also equally complicit in the game turning out this way--Nos more than skitter, but it takes a town to lose as a town, y'know?
not all of it, but yeah, i did screw up, and i take responsibility for my part in that, and i like to think i learned a few things for next time
i also don't really think much constructive will happen about arguing what went wrong here either but yeah-
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no i can understand why you're mad, you did good mechanically (and i eventually realized that you probably crumbed somewhere by virtue of the fact that you approach games that way and that since you started day2 by scumreading gammagooey despite that readslist having him high up that the readslist was a red herring basically)
i'm kinda frustrated/annoyed too but most of what i have to say is unkind and negative and i'd prefer to just move on i guess instead of sparking an argument-
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it would have made the game a lot easier from my pov if you would have communicated with me more and answered my questionsIn post 2752, Shoshin wrote:I'm open to suggestions on how I could have dealt with Nos better, because that's actually the sort of thing I'd love to hear about.-
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idk how to deal with nos (although his play in 5way up until he voted you was really townie imo; it's really the only time i had much of a read on him all game)
with you, i need to understand what you're thinking in order to read you. if you just ignore me and don't answer questions, i can't get that from you. i understand that you don't like to respond to what you consider frivolous or pointless questions, but from my pov they're important and useful and help me sort you; i rarely ever just ask random questions even if they look like they are; they usually go somewhere or have some purpose or are trying to get at something not directly
you disappeared from like day3 to day5 and i couldn't get you to share reads or explain what you were thinking or how you used gacha so to me it seemed like you were just doing ???? whatever and i couldn't understand it (and tbh i still don't entirely understand what you did that game)
and to townread people i need to understand what they're thinking
and when you decided you scumread me you just stopped interacting with me at all and that's incredibly frustrating to deal with because what am i supposed to do there?-
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it felt to me that you just stopped interacting with meIn post 2764, Shoshin wrote:I didn't stop interacting with you -- part of it maybe was timing -- but I was frustrated with you as well for suspecting me/Gamma and didn't have the energy to explain a bunch of things that seemed obvious to me. I understand that what's obvious to me isn't always obvious to others, so I did eventually answer your questions. It just took longer than you would have liked.
from my pov you were just defending gamma for like two or three days and i couldn't get you to explain where the strength of the read came from, so to me i couldn't tell if you had a strong read or were just pretending to avoid either of you getting lynching in mylo
once you explained i understood where you were coming from and why you felt that way (pretty much immediately i'm pretty sure), but until then i felt like you were avoiding the question or avoiding explaining your reads for several dayphases for no discernible reason, and to me that starts looking like you didn't really have any besides for the inexplicable gamma read
again, i can understand why you might think it's obvious and that i'm being incredibly obtuse by not understanding, but to me, i need these sorts of things to be explained in greater detail for me to understand why you felt it so strongly-
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these sound awesomeIn post 2801, xyzzy wrote:
whoa hold on I still have like 5 more games just in the Balance arc, and that's if IIn post 2798, Gamma Emerald wrote:amnestydon'tdo one based on the live shows (which would definitely be called "Live Stunt Spectacular"). it'll be a long time before I can get to TAZ Mafia: Amnesty, and that's not even including TAZ Mafia: Four Sherlock Holmes and a Vampire (Who Is One of the Aforementioned Sherlock Holmes), which will be at least 3 games
i enjoyed the setup and gacha and gold thing
and i thought you were an awesome mod
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