Mini Themed 2047: Everything Is (Still) A Lie [Finale]

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V/LA until 15 Dec

Noted.
-Kor

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Oh hey Persivul, long time no see!

(This is a public alt of BulletNLynchproof)

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I think given the theme of the game Nako’s results may be inverted or something, so it’s a parity cop.

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Also I really like Cj’s responses to Nako

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After thinking about it, I feel that a 4-shot lie detector per day is way too disproportionately powerful for town, even if the results are inverted or something. The only way I can see this being town aligned is if the results are heavily gated like e.g. they are randomly generated and their truthiness cannotmbe predicted.

VOTE: Nako

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Singleton, claim town or I am going to vote you.

Sure

I am aligned with the town

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Sorry my V/LA is over I will catch up soon

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First things first: did anyone in the Jury hammer?

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Jingle, Persivul, wordnath, Nico.....possibly Nako are my town pool and I don't think the Korina vote was all town. So one of Eragon/Kokichi but I don't think it's both.

Why is WordNath town? A lot of his reads are either calling the mod scum, calling the jury scum, calling people townreading/defending either of those scum, and calling people scumreading/attacking either of those town.

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Although I must say I'm finding it hard to read things early game

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Like I get that this is an outguess-the-mod game, but it's not a shitposting game

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Maybe RCE and overkill are town

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Persivul maybe scum

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I would also like someone to claim if they have jury control.

^

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Jingle, Persivul, wordnath, Nico.....possibly Nako are my town pool and I don't think the Korina vote was all town. So one of Eragon/Kokichi but I don't think it's both.

Why is WordNath town? A lot of his reads are either calling the mod scum, calling the jury scum, calling people townreading/defending either of those scum, and calling people scumreading/attacking either of those town.

Yes.

It's so pointless as a scum strat that it has to be town. That sounds like a trolly read but still.

I know what you are talking about, but I disagree. Some scum don't know what to do as scum so they just tunnel.

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Also I have said this already, but got no follow up, so I'll ask again:

Isn't Nako's role to powerful if she were town?

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Actually catching up with this will be a bit of a pain... what are the current claims so far? Nako being 4x-Lie detector, Jingle being able to hear whispers, anything else?

Also is Persivul actually in the Jury or did he retract that somewhere?

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Holy it is really difficult to read anything in the thread. I think it is because I don't know if voting the mod is alignment indicative or not

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Although I am picking up weird posts that seem to hint at player's roles/post restrictions

Also I don't like shtposting, I am generally a serious player

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Like I get that this is an outguess-the-mod game, but it's not a shitposting game

It is most definitely a shitposting game. The trick is to try to figure out why people are trying to encourage shitposting in the specific way they are.

Speaking of, why you starting to post more immediately after I call you out for lurking?

Regardless of people calling me out for lurking, I don't like to lurk and make every effort to post at least once per day.

Having said that, I am finding it hard to read the game in general

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Actually, if someone wants free townpoints they should compile a list of who whispered who.

If you know every whisper, shouldn't you know this already?

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Tbh Kokichi can go into my townpool, and maybe Wordnath as well

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Thank you, RCE

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Eh I'm currently undecided about Jingle, though I've read the 1v1v1

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Jingle did you give Overkill a post restriction or something

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Also, you guys use the additional lynch mechanic every day for the rest of the game. Decide on a player who will be lynched, then initiate trial. None of this innocent bullshit.

The problem with this, though, is that we can't, to my knowledge, control the Jury on who gets trialed.

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I think it's the latter

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Wait, how do you know your result is affected by the bus driver?

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Actually, a better question is this:

Does the player's role get the player's name as part of the pink text? I.e. was it "Jingle is scum" or "Your target is scum"

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You know what I'm a bit lost with this game so I'll just follow Persivul on this

VOTE: Innocent

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Actually I forgot something, which I believe suggests Jingle scum
Not that it would have mattered anyway

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Is that a response to me or a continuation of 912?

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Actually, it's something I don't want to say for now, even as a whisper.

But if my

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But if my theory on this is right, it would make you, Eragon and RCEnigma town.

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Woah woah woah... why are we voting WordNath?

Can we see that if Word is town here, we still don't have a confirmed scum here, but a 1v1 between Persivul and whoever he's going to out as the bus driver?

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I have received feedback that Jingle visited me last Night, if that means anything

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I am going to make a bold setup spec here that there is in fact no bomb at all and we are just being trolled.

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Yeah kinda doubt mod is going to end his own game like that.

Exactly what I was thinking

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Ok I have a decently strong scumread on this:
VOTE: Nako

Part of the reason is that I don't really like her teasing us with information she is claiming to know today

But the main reason is, I don't like how she seems content with not using all her lie detector shots every Day. I sincerely think something is off with this.

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So did RCE kill jingle?

But why was jingle cleaned?

Or did RCE townside and kill Ceejay?

Also how does RCE Cotrol part of the jury wut

If you read the flavour it strongly hints at RCE killing Ceejay, but ofc this is not guaranteed

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I still want to lynch Nako, I don't buy anything they say (other than the lie detector). I also think that if anyone has the bomb it is Nako.

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Cool
Now who’s the bomb

Korina

Doesn't line up with

I am allowed to tell it only if you subscribe to PewDiePie.
You lynch, you lose.

I am subbed to Pewdiepie, mind telling me? :3

I'll tell you in our mason chat.

In fact, Nako is so textbook scummy I'd hesitate to lynch her if not for RCE already flipping Jester.

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@everyone don’t hammer yet, we should probably use the jury to imitate a trial on Nako, then vote korina if Nako flips town, and if Nako is scum then we go for someone else.

Imitiate? You mean initiate?

But yeah, I forgot about the Jury
UNVOTE: Nako

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Persivul is V/LA until December 31st, 2018. Vote-count is delayed due to family and my inability to reach a computer.

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Nako is trolling at this point and I'm just going to ignore her

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Ok are we going to do anything other than lynch Nako?

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Nako do you have any important stuff from the medium ability?

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Idk I think we should be doing things given that Nako has claimed scum

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I am mason and I can speak to ceejay because Korina made me a medium. I am also suicidal and able to listen to the whispers.
I am Yabuki Nako and this is my story.

Mason claim

without the partner

means nothing.

FTFY

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Also when should we massclaim?

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Role PM

Mini Themed 2047: Everything Is (Still) A Lie Mafia

Welcome, ceejayvinoya! You drew

Trickster (Loud Werewolf-Traitor Tailor Mason)

, and as such, your allegiance falls with

The Werewolves

. You do not know who your partner(s) are however

.

Abilities:
~ Each night you may tailor a result on another player causing them to appear to be

Town

,

Mafia

,

Serial Killer

,

Werewolf

,

Cult

,

Pirate

or

Alien

to a Cop.
~ If your werewolf buddy(s) attack you, you will join them instead of dying.
~ You are in a Masonry with

MR. BIGGLESWORTH

, and know they are not a member of the

Mafia

.
~ If you are visited at night, you will be informed of who visited you, however, you will not be informed of what action they took.
~ The two of you may privately talk regardless of the phase in the PT located here.

Victory Condition:
~ You, and the

Werewolves

win once

all those who would oppose

The Werewolves

are dead, or if nothing can prevent this from happening.

Please confirm you are sane, (and able to read), by sending me your

role-name, your alignment, and your partner's name OR by posting in the Mason PT

.

CJ was a mason

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Yeah no
VOTE: Innocent

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All additional voters will be added after the Trial is over.

Ok what

I have a bad feeling about this...

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Kokichi's my top townread so I'm not getting that lynched.

Also I got some information that is potentially very useful so please don't speedlynch Nako after the trial.

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Oh this is a fake trial and there's a real one arranged?

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Ok I think I have useful information, but I want Overkill to reply to my whisper first.

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Ok I have important information. Incoming...

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So part of my role is Random Cop, I investigate one player each night, and get the alignment of that player, but I don't know who I investigated.

Last Night I got a result of "Mafia". While I had assumed this was Nako due to some hints, Eragon just whispered to me that I visited him last Night, which means he scumclaimed to me

I know that this role sounds weird and doesn't make sense, but I have intentionally left out some details of the role. Some players have more details on how this ability of mine works.
Also note that I have not fullclaimed, I may or may not have additional abilities other than this, but I did not target Eragon with another ability last Night.

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Wait hold up ceejay was a Tailor

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Shoot I should probably have asked for who else targeted you before revealing my result on you.
I completely forgot Ceejay was a tailor

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If anyone visited Eragon last Night they should probably counterclaim this
Otherwise I think I messed up.

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Hi

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Idk if I am willing to let Nako live in spite of the trial, it can be overturned and tomorrow may be LyLo

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VOTE: Nako

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@Korina I think Kokichi wants is voting Nako

Persivul, can you tell me more about the Jury overturning stuff? Because in that case I want to lynch Nako today so she isn't lynchproof tomorrow

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Wait can we get a list of alive players first

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1. Portgas D. Ace (NicoRobin)
2. singletonking
3. 0verki11
8. Gamma Emerald
9. The Jury
10. Korina

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Yeah of course we need to massclaim today

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I will claim after Korina claims

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singletonking here, I'm posting through the mod with my powers

Well that didn't turn out the way I wanted it to...

But yeah, posting through the Mod is one of my abilities.

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BP? That's it?
I have other reasons to suspect you rn

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Whatever in an effort to keep the game alive I'm gonna claim.

First off, I am deathproof. I cannot be killed at Night (which is in fact in line with what WordNath said), and I am also immune to lynches. Which means that yes, I am BulletNLynchproof

On the flip side, I am voteless; my vote has 0 weight. Which means I am effectively a treestump, but with cool abilities.

Yesterday I have claimed Random Cop, who investigates one person each Day without knowing who I investigate. The more specific details of this role is, I get a list of three people, one of whom I actually investigated.

Night 1: NicoRobin/Kokichi Oma/Gamma Emerald is town
Night 2: 0verkill/Nako/Eragon is Mafia -> Proven by tracks to be Eragon but framed
Night 3: Korina/NicoRobin/Gamma -> Pretty sure this is Korina

Speaking of Korina, I control Korina. Not only can I make Korina say whatever, I also make him perform his night actions. In fact, I have his entire rolecard.

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Given that Korina is kinda MIA I think just claiming in thread is better than whispering

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I forgot about this game

6 days left in deadline

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Nico, I can do whatever you said in that whisper but it doesn't do what you think it does

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Btw I know Night 1 I did not investigate Kokichi due to reasons, so I'm inclined to think Overkill is scum mathematically.

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Ok, I buy the claim.

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So here's Korina's role. Note that I control all of Korina's actions.

Korina is in fact a Cult Leader, and specifically he is aligned with the "Cult of Dog". I must make Korina recruit someone every Night, and I cannot make stupid recruits (like recruiting Korina, a member of the Cult of Dog, or a dead player). Note that while Korina is in fact Cult aligned, I am still town aligned.

Korina is in fact Loved.

Korina flips as simply 'Cult Leader', unless modkilled, who will flip as cleaned (which I believe means janitored).

Korina also has a Dreaming God ability. I am given a list of actions which are named, but they are vague descriptions and I have no idea what exactly they do. Each action targets an unknown number of players, up to four, and I must choose to target 4 players every Night, using my ability on the players off the front in order for the number of players it targets. I must make Korina perform one every Night, in addition to recruiting.

Korina has some other abilities I will not claim, because knowing them help scum but not town. I will claim these at request.

Going to compile Korina's Night actions

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For the Dreaming God, Korina has these abilities: Dig, Clean, Control, Heal, Poison, Love, Misguide, Reflect, Jail, Watch, Create, Disappear, Investigate

I cannot perform an ability more than once

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13 total btw

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Oh, and I also must perform Korina's actions N0

Recruits:
N0: Kokichi Oma <- Why I know I didn't investigate Kokichi N1
N1: Jingle
N2: 0verki11
N3: The Jury

Dreaming God:
N0: Misguide: The Jury, Nako, NicoRobin, Porkens
N1: Love: The Jury, WordNath, Persivul, Kokichi Oma
N2: Watch: Persivul, Jingle, Gamma Emerald, Kokichi Oma <- I believe this gave everyone a self-watcher result N2
N3: Poison: Overkill, NicoRobin, Persivul, Kokichi Oma

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so what/ we lynch 0verkill and win?

I don't think so, Nico still has a decent chance of being scum

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Oh, and I also must perform Korina's actions N0

Recruits:
N0: Kokichi Oma <- Why I know I didn't investigate Kokichi N1
N1: Jingle
N2: 0verki11
N3: The Jury

Dreaming God:
N0: Misguide: The Jury, Nako, NicoRobin, Porkens
N1: Love: The Jury, WordNath, Persivul, Kokichi Oma
N2: Watch: Persivul, Jingle, Gamma Emerald, Kokichi Oma <- I believe this gave everyone a self-watcher result N2
N3: Poison: Overkill, NicoRobin, Persivul, Kokichi Oma

excuse me what im not notified of this.

Was a theory. Many people received a self watcher result, including what Eragon told me in a whisper. It may be that those who had no one visiting them aren't notified at all.

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Idk what to think of Gamma's role

Tbh I think it makes more sense as a scum role. However, I have played ToS before and I believe transporter is a town-only role.

I still lean Gamma town

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I can let overkill claim last and Nico claim next

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Eh I'm not paying too much attention to this game but I think you've been town

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Why did you think Eragon and Kokichi were shady

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Also no one targeted me Night 2.

Was this an explicit "No one targeted you last Night" unrelated to your role?

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Huh, now I feel suspicious about Overkill not receiving a self watcher result

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How?

and I think everyone has claimed so I'll claim now.
I'm a Transporter (One Shot Bulletproof Ascetic Bus Driver). Night 1 I targeted Jingle and WordNath, I was FOSing WordNath and wanted to switch any kills on Jingle over there. This resulted in a false guilty on Jingle which I promptly corrected and that helped lead to a lynch on WordNath. This should conftown me, as I'm certain my bus driver role is true based on what happened. Night 2 I bus drove Nako and ceejay, thinking Nako was the one with the guilty and ceejay I loosely suspected again. I ended up doing what I wanted, and I don't think that action had any further impact on the game beyond redirecting the kill? Like there could be something I'm not considering, I looked at singleton's actions and he was self-watched by Eragon so it can't have interacted with that, and the only other thing I can see is it messing with a dead role. Also no one targeted me Night 2. Night 3 I targeted Eragon and Kokichi Oma, who I felt were both kinda shady so I wanted to flip actions between them. That ended up irrelevant.

Why did you think there would be any kills on Jingle

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Why did you take the IC at face value

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I thought you were bring simple minded, but I like your explanation

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Nico, was I supposed to interpret your Cult claim as a true claim?

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Overkill is your post death ability vengeful? If it is no need to keep it secret

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Note that we have just over 1 day

I want to lynch Overkill here and I have a feeling we can still lynch/kill Nico after

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Nico, was I supposed to interpret your Cult claim as a true claim?

Just a yes/no will suffice, don't need to claim details

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Ugh we're almost at deadline, I won't be here till deadline. I kinda think 0verki11's role sounds town with the caveat that we can't actually verify his role and he could be fakeclaiming scum, leaving NicoRobin as scum

VOTE: NicoRobin

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(expired on 2019-01-28 15:50:00)

I will be voting for Nico through Korina as well

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Yay!
Eragon what was that about? Did you control the Jury?

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WordNath was your alt?