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Sorry about my lack of activity since replacing in. Shortly after I replaced in I was V/LA for a short while, and when I got back it was night.
I will read the thread and post opinions.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yeh it's a lot easier to post when your caught up in the game.
When I have the energy (and time) to read through 15 pages, I can post thoughts.
Alternatively, I can just not read and just try to gradually come in.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Ok will start trying to post some opinions now...I'll not bother with Ala as it sounds like he's cleared.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I guess i'll end the game of chicken.
Ok, here goes:
Alabaska - Is apparntly clear. I've also now seen he's an SK cop. So i'm satisfied that he's innocent.
Armlx - I get a townie feel about his early posts, and agree with the random voting argument. Think the FOSing RB for requesting prods is rubbish, however it could be genuine. His pressing on Alabaska seems genuine to me. So I think he's town.
Claus - I find the post analysis to be ugh, for want of a better expression. As I get to the your player analysis, I realise it's hard to comment before I check out the others you are commenting on.
Just to clarify here - Apologies but I was away unexpectedly just after I replaced in, and it was night when I got back.2- Because Xtomx promised a reread of the game when he was replaced a few days ago, and disappeared. Now, he could have disappeared because he is away, or because he is happy with either DP or Alabaska being lynched, and doesn't want to say so. So I decided to put him in the duel, to see to which side he would fall to save his own skin.
I think the fact he was trying to get me lynched by himself at the end of yesterday is a town-tell, so for the moment I will put him as town.
CKD - Lol.
DW - I tend not to talk about my predecessors, so I won't. 5 posts is pretty pathetic, though, given he was here most of day 1.
DP - I'm not a fan of peotry, lol. I don't know much at all...Anything, infact...About Darkstalkers, has it been discussed much what character he is likely to be? And in turn his alignment? Ok...Wrote that after scrolling through all his posts, then went back and read the first one and saw "Don't have a post resriction".
I find it harder to make out what you're trying to say, talking like that.
The comment on "not random voting thing" - I have said i'm not gonna random vote before, in certain games, but I have also random voted in otehrs...So I can say from experience that's not a scumtell...Also seems a pretty weak reason to be attacking someone with.
Posting in ryhmes could be an excuse to talk less. He presses lurkers quite hard...I'm not sure if it's genuine. I'll put him leaning scum.
Flameaxe - I particularly don't like this comment:
I know it's sarcastic, but I don't like the point he's trying to make with it. All he said today is comments about the JOAT. Making comments about roles/setups is something I tend to find myself doing as scum. I think flameaxe is probably one of the scum.Would you rather me vote who I found the least suspicious instead? unvote, vote: flameaxe. Wow, I see how much better this is! Why didn't I think of this before?!
GW - After a couple of games with you, where you turned out to be (initially) a townie, i've learnt that I find your playstyle in general scummy. He seems to be posting here more often than in the other games, execpt for 2 notable lentghs of not posting, but like i've said i've seen him do that as town. The main thing I get on him is his belief of Al's claim seems genuine to me, so I think he's town.
Gork - Overall find it hard to get a read on him...Main thing is this, I think is a town-tell:which I would have jumped on with a link to a site telling you that Morrigan is an S-class character.
Now given Al's essentially clear, I think anyone turning away from the Al wagon looks good. So leaning town.unvote
I actually think the flavor kind of works, at least as far as Demetri being an SK, the way he's described in Wikipedia. Morgan is also supposed to be an important character, so if no one is countering him, then I think he's legit.
When I saw this, I thought my predecessor had claimed. I can accept that's an honest mistake, given this is non-vanilla.So what did you base your night choice on?
Ooba - Seems to be dead
I am going to quote his analysis list, cos I think it might be useful.
OF - Clear stalling of posting opinions...Town
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RossWilliam (scummy at the begining but sort of neutral vibes in the end)
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Claus (The most townish of this neutral group)
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Dean (Has to post more)
Flameaxe(RoTN) - Nothing much to go on here except my theory
RotN - Didn't like this comment at all:
I strongly disagree, and I like the fact that all the mini's i've been in started with day. Sounds to me like he was scum disinterested in the game because of his alignment, in his few posts, fits in with my view from Flameaxe.Why must games always start with day? It seems so counter-intuitive. How are we supposed to figure out who will kill someone in the future when they haven't even killed someone yet.
Ration - Was the SK.
RB - Was the SK. SK's can be considered townies, essentially, in terms of looking for mafia, just to point out.
RW - Agree with this:
and this:random.org and dice-rolling is simply a cop-out. end of story
However, I think they show little on his alignment :sgod. the rhyming is going to kill me
Overall, I like what he's said and think he's probably town. So OF/RW - Town.
ST - Only thing to say about him is I once replaced where he needed replacing, and he was scum, bit I don't think that's a tell.
SL -
This strikes me as the type of comment a townie would make. His early posts also make me think he's a townie. I also fidn his comments in his isolation post subject 6 to be genuine, and he sounds like a townie to me. As I continue reading down, I find this read to be consistent...I'd be surprised if he's scum.PS: I love Darkstalkers, love it love it!! <3 <3 <3 <3!!!!
Unfortunately, it's seems i've only put 2 in my scum section. I'm not saying i'm right but I like to have the right number of scum in my list...Which I assume to be 3, ofcourse. I guess Claus would be the lucky one who get's upgraded if I had to name 3.
Finally!!!!
My head officailly HURTS. I'm just gonna hit submit and hopes this comes out alright. I cba to check through all this.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Btw, I didn't spend the full 12 hours working on that from the psot in which I promise it, but I did spend a damn long time on it!Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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vote Flameaxe. Didn't add a vote to my uber post. Guess a post can only have so much...
I'm also not liking the way he's defending himself here. Stuff like this:
AITP2 is hardly a good example of someone's town play. Town in AITP compared to "standard" mafia is completely different, try again.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Note...I wasn't in said game, i've never actually played with Flameaxe before, just saying it didn't like the way he was trying to use it as defense.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Scum annoyed at the reasons he's being voted?Flameaxe wrote:
THERES. NOTHING. TO. DEFEND. AGAINST. YOU. FUCKING. RETARD.Xtoxm wrote:vote Flameaxe. Didn't add a vote to my uber post. Guess a post can only have so much...
I'm also not liking the way he's defending himself here. Stuff like this:
AITP2 is hardly a good example of someone's town play. Town in AITP compared to "standard" mafia is completely different, try again.
Insulting me isn't likely to make me change my mind.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Go fuck yourself.Flameaxe wrote:He's using a town-meta of me in a game where the town does not act in a conventional way, exactly how do you expect me to "defend myself" against that?
Jesus, after WEM, I thought you might actually have a brain. Now, I'm reconsidering that assumption.
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I try to look at who I think is being genuine in their argument...Not everyone alyways presses the right person. It's possible for one person to be scummy in pressing someone and another to look good in pressing the same person, imo.This is extremely wish washy. On one hand you use pressuring of Ala as a town tell, on the other turning away from the Al wagon is a town tell.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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No, it just didn't occur to me to put a vote in at the end of the analysis. I forgot. I thought I might it clear he was my top suspect, and I thought I always made clear that if I had to name 3 it would be F, DP, you.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Um yeh that post just there was supposed to be responding to a quote that I apparantly forgot to add.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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That one.I don't feel you're sure of this. Maybe this is why you waited until someone else voted to put your vote in?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I find it hard to explain why...I just do.Really, why? (oh, btw, SL is a she).Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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When I got to the end of the post, you were the one that stuck out to me. I didn't read back again.So why do I get upgraded to be the third scum over people you have no read either way?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well, they are my genuine opinions, from reading through.I'm finding your analysis wish washy and scummy. I expected you to be a bit more solid on your opinions of other players.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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And I didn't read through Al's posts btw, I just took it as red, as a lot of people has said it, and he's posted a hell of a lot.
Came across a few comments that put it together for me.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Um, most of what you say really...Just makes things harder.
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I wasn't defending him, I was defending his side of the argument...I was saying it was a weak reason to be trying to attack him with.
I went through and read, and posted my opinons as they formed.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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This is not a prod request game...Yeh they need to post more than that.Once or twice a week I will be sending activity checks to all players who haven't posted in the last 72 hours.
If you receive an AC please don't feel offended, this is my way of keeping the game alive by making sure all players are still around.
Simply opening the AC PM is enough to inform me that you are still around and playing. No need to answer the PM.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Oh...Honestly didn't realise that. Read rule 1, and stopped and quoted as I thought i'd found the games policy.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'm here. There's a lot of people that don't seem to have posted in a long time.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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That is not what I voted him for. I stated my reasons in my player analysis when I joined.I do find it odd that Xtoxm jumped on said one game meta wagon (mini-wagon, whatever...).Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I have no intention of playing being insulted like this.
Replace me.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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From what I glanced at, tbh, I think OF is scum. Who has need to target a cleared SK cop other than a doc protetion...?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yeh...Just posting to say don't have time to check this game today. Will try look tomorrow.Well, some shit certainly has gone down.
Sounds at a glance like DP has claimed scum. Will probably vote him.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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What a proposturous statement!gorckat wrote:Ah- gothca.
Then we were somewhat of the same mind, armlx (looking at the Flame/Xtoxm flare-up). I was able to determine Xtoxm is not a darkstalker.
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Lol. I don't see much point, wouldn't save me.
Yeh i'm the scum blocker. I blocked you actually Claus so Mokina isn't clear, unless you aren't affected by that? I dunno. Just so you don't get screwed over by that. I believed your claim, wasn't sure about Mokina, and I wanted to block the doc so my kill didn't get screwed upSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Cos I wanted to kill Flameaxe.
Seriously. Need you ask that?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well, discard it if you want, i'm particularly bothered, we were a 2 man mafia.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Lol, i'm sure he will
So just this cult you guys need to get now. From the OP, S-Class's are clearly unrecruitable...But what do you think the difference between A and B is? Are A's liekly recruitable too, or just B's?
>> See, i'm pro-town!Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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But even if you're telling the truth about your power you could be recruited.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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No!!!armlx wrote:I don't know about that, Survivor claim is kinda sketchy to say the least. I'm thinking it might be a good ideal to vote the possible cult scum and just jailkeep the claimed mafia tonight.
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RB is BIH not fla
It'll probably only count as an unvote.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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You realise that if you block me, and GW isn't CR, then the CR gets a free recruit. You should let me kill. I'll be nice!Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Blocking me was incredibally silly as you've given the cult a free recruit.
I imagine cult are on the brink of victory.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well, I think Mokina is cult. A pro-town player would have known when GW came up non-cult it was better to block someone else.
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Yes. We know that there are some unrecruitable people around.armlx wrote:Well, we know at least 1 recruit failed or the game would be over by now.
DR has yet to PM me anything about my investigation on SL.
Me and AJ (S-Rank). And ofcourse, DP, RB and GW. That's 5 unrecruitables. Presumably everyone else is recruitable.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well, that's assuming that the "Some actions will fail on higher ranks" thing means recruiting fails on S-Rank.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yes, i'm essentially a pro-town vig at this point, and you blocked my kill. (And my RB).Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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It's not a choice between the two. And it's not jsut preventing the vig kill, it's advantageuous to the cult.armlx wrote:
Given a choice between a lynch and a vig kill, rather take the lynch.Xtoxm wrote:Yes, i'm essentially a pro-town vig at this point, and you blocked my kill. (And my RB).Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Sure...
I thought Claus would have had the sense not to block me. Nice move!
I was starting to think that maybe I had a chance if it came to between me and cult for victory...Lol.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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unvote vote armlx
Incase DR doesn't approve of forfeiture.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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As much as i'd like that, I don't think I can pull off making you guys thinking there's a bigger threat than me in the cult...gorckat wrote:Am I the only person wary of feeling all smug like we've won when there are at least two people anti-town still alive?
I haven't yet celared all possibilities of armlx either being a cultie taking the fall or there actually being a cultie out there that could win if he makes it to true endgame.
And armlx does seem pretty sincere to me anyway.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Actually, the points you just brought are why DR absolutley cannot end the game early. Even if it is only me and armlx, we'll have to play it out.
And you guys should totally quit making the night so long.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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So, if we think armlx is a recruit taking the fall, then we should lynch someone else, who we think the leader is, right?
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Also, i've been thinking there's something dodgy about 2 jailkeepers. Especially when i'm a roleblocker.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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This is correct.Xtomx can do both at once, but he is can't do any if he is roleblocked. I asked DR that last night, to know if it was necessary that both me and mokina roleblocked him, or just one of us.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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We could be looking at a 3 member cult here with armlx, Claus and SL.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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