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It feels more like you latched to the fact that I found someone else voteworthy as a drowning man latches to a drifting piece of flotsam. Your PbPA of GW after my vote was really reaching.Because I think you're right? I'm not sure what else I should have said since I agreed with you…
How many do we have? I doubt they are all scum, just a couple possible pairs.
I think that if Alabaster is the SK cop, his power works on only one person - the SK. So it probably DOES work, regardless of rank. So the theory that armix would ask alabaska his rank to know whether or not he would "be vulnerable" to him is kinda pointless.springlullaby wrote: I think there is only one reason to be interested in someone's rank, and that is to know if one's power would work on them. And the odds of such powers beingagainst themis pretty high.
What do you think?
Yeah. It felt kinda wrong, mainly the "Dimitri looks more like an Cult Leader than an SK". So you unvote per claim, but you still say that the claim looks wrong, and he is still scummy. This is pinged my scumdar a little.Rogueben wrote:You don't like my reaction to it?
While THIS reaction is much more interesting. Does it bother you that people are looking at your behavior? I don't like your overreaction. "Think carefully about it?" lol.I would like a good reason, and I suggest you think carefully about, in particular how it makes me more likely to be scum given his claim
No, I only read the article for my own role. I played Darkstalkers a little a long time ago, and I remember Morrigan being one of the main characters, and Dimitri being one of the main villains.Have you read the wikipedea articles on each of those characters?
Sure. But what does this has to do with the fact that Rogueben overreacted to a minor fos of mine? I think he is a better lynch than Alabaska (and much better than DP).gorckat wrote:Claus: Do you have answers for these questions?rogueben wrote: 1. How would it help mafia to jump off a claimed SKcop?
2. If I was SK, how would it help me to jump off a claimed SKcop?
Lol. Here is the thing. Those questions have nothing to do with my vote. My vote for you was solely in return to your overreaction to my commentary. THAT is what I find scummy enough about you to vote you D1.Rogueben wrote: I would like you to answer the questions, I don't want people to become unaccountable for their suspicion and or votes.
As it should be. The comment was not bolded, I don't even think I used the word scummy - it was not an accusation, it was a comment. The way you are overreacting to that, though, is what I call scummy.Rogueben wrote:I really don't think that you understand what I'm saying here. Something is only scummy if scum are more likely to do it. You are not willing to explain why scum would be more likely to do it, therefore I find that your justification for the initial FoS is lacking.
This means that if I honestly find Rogueben scummy, I shouldn't be voting for the same person that he is voting. Which would make a lot of sense if there was only one scum group (we have at least two - scum and the SK).ooba wrote:What does this mean?gorckat wrote:Finding rogueben lynch worthy and then voting the same person he is seems really fishy.
...curiouskarmadog wrote:(waiting).Drunken Piper wrote:
Since we are so close to deadline, of course,
I am really looking for something from Xtoxm and OpposedForce.
Claus, why are you interested to see if Ala lives through the night?
When did you begin to know we had a SK in our sight?
Thanks!Xtoxm wrote:I guess i'll end the game of chicken.
This is a very grudgingly way to put it. Ala is not apparently clear. He's clear, period.Alabaska - Is apparntly clear. I've also now seen he's an SK cop. So i'm satisfied that he's innocent.
This is extremely wish washy. On one hand you use pressuring of Ala as a town tell, on the other turning away from the Al wagon is a town tell. I wonder which of these is the scumbuddy you are protecting.Armlx - I get a townie feel about his early posts, and agree with the random voting argument. Think the FOSing RB for requesting prods is rubbish, however it could be genuine. His pressing on Alabaska seems genuine to me. So I think he's town.
(... changing order for comparison's sake ...)
Gork - Now given Al's essentially clear, I think anyone turning away from the Al wagon looks good. So leaning town.
Thanks for buddying up with me!Claus - I find the post analysis to be ugh, for want of a better expression. As I get to the your player analysis, I realise it's hard to comment before I check out the others you are commenting on.
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I think the fact he was trying to get me lynched by himself at the end of yesterday is a town-tell, so for the moment I will put him as town.
Rolefishing much?DP - I'm not a fan of peotry, lol. I don't know much at all...Anything, infact...About Darkstalkers, has it been discussed much what character he is likely to be?
I don't feel you're sure of this. Maybe this is why you waited until someone else voted to put your vote in?Flameaxe - I particularly don't like this comment:
I know it's sarcastic, but I don't like the point he's trying to make with it. All he said today is comments about the JOAT. Making comments about roles/setups is something I tend to find myself doing as scum. I think flameaxe is probably one of the scum.Would you rather me vote who I found the least suspicious instead? unvote, vote: flameaxe. Wow, I see how much better this is! Why didn't I think of this before?!
Wish-washy. Really, the fact that Al was telling the truth and that we bagged the SK yesterday was a fluke.GW - (...) The main thing I get on him is his belief of Al's claim seems genuine to me, so I think he's town.
So, what was Ooba's list useful for?(... about Ooba ...)
I am going to quote his analysis list, cos I think it might be useful.
(... posts list ...)
I disagree with this. I think SKs don't act like townies, because they are survivors, and mostly disinterested in the lynch result - but this is purely theoretical discussion - not counting this against you.RB - Was the SK. SK's can be considered townies, essentially, in terms of looking for mafia, just to point out.
Really, why? (oh, btw, SL is a she).This strikes me as the type of comment a townie would make.PS: I love Darkstalkers, love it love it!! <3 <3 <3 <3!!!!
Flameaxe and who? I don't remember you posting any strong opinions in the post above, and I just remember Flameaxe because you voted for him later. So why do I get upgraded to be the third scum over people you have no read either way?Unfortunately, it's seems i've only put 2 in my scum section. I'm not saying i'm right but I like to have the right number of scum in my list...Which I assume to be 3, ofcourse. I guess Claus would be the lucky one who get's upgraded if I had to name 3.
Well, thanks for taking the time to re-read and write the above. Unfortunately (for you) now my previous vote, which was pretty much a random vote to get people talking in D2 (here is your reasoning, SL - I was expecting more people to react to it, though), has become a real vote.My head officailly HURTS. I'm just gonna hit submit and hopes this comes out alright. I cba to check through all this.
What bothers me is that I can't see why town would do that. How does it help scumhunting?gorckat wrote:Please let me know if it occurs to you why it bothers you or makes you uncomfortable that I'd be interested in people targeting Al.Claus wrote:I don't like the "so, what did you get yesterday?" from gorkcat. Rubbed me the wrong way, I'm not just sure how yet. The "RB with nothing better to do" excuse doesn't make much sense.
No, it is not. However, I have no problem voting disruptive players out of the game.Flameaxe wrote:This is not effective scumhunting.Claus wrote:Please don't. We lynch Flameaxe today and the game returns to normalhood (with one less scum, that is).
Yup, you made nice case against AJ on your post number 3. The way AJ played D1, though, even half asleep scum could put up such a case together without much trouble.I'm sorry for finding everything about Alabaska scummy, but I outlined it fairly well, and showed I thought he was scummy. Every post influences the town.
Really? What is your valid case against Armlx? All I see is Armlx pushing you for the AITP meta, and you eventually getting pissed at him and voting him back. If you have anything more than that, I'm interested in hearing.It isn't OMGUS. I have a valid reason, while he does not. I've been busy defending myself against empty cases all day (see Xtoxm's).
Yeah, I don't know who the scum and the town are. Sorry about that. But voting on someone who sleeps through deadline lynches, who is voting on a guy I have a town read on for OMGUS reasons, and whose only response to pressure seems to be "fuck you" seems like a pretty got bet.IF I come up scum. You don't seem as convinced as you are trying to seem.
Ok. So I gather that you were informed of cult existence on your role PM then. Fair enough. Did you at least breadcrumbed the existance of a cult D1?springlullaby wrote: 1) I know as far as the mod can be trusted that there is a cult.
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I debated with myself during all of day 1 whether to bring up the subject of cult since town seemed to be unaware of it existence;
There is a simpler answer: Vig. I think a SK/Mafia/Cult combination to be too much for a 12 player game.My statement that there is a mafia was an assumption based on the fact, which has surprised me, that there was a kill last night despite being down an SK.
I hope you do. You were in a privileged position on D1 and most of D2 to observe who would act more knowledgeable than the rest.2) I know the role name of the cult leader, but I do not know their identity. But if I were to speculate, I'd say Alabaska is the obvious cult recruit choice after D1.
3) I haven't formed a strong impression yet, and I haven't read everything yet. Will get to it eventually.
Mokina wrote:it feels like he was trying to quicklynch before a replacement arrived. Either that or we have two docs.
Mokina wrote: I asked DR about my ability and he replied ambiguously. He tells me that it's "the normal ability of a doc and the normal ability of a roleblocker, combined."
I don't think 1 is lying.armlx wrote: The later means that if Claus = town, Monika = town, which is mutually exclusive with 1 is lying. Therefore
Mokina. Stop. And think.Mokina wrote: Lies. You declared yourself the Doc-Blocker in post 597:
I'm the one doing the counterclaiming. Happy with my vote.Claus wrote: I'm Anakaris (the mummy guy), and I use my coffins to protect people from harm. When S.L. revealed that she new of cults, I asked the mod if my protection included culting, and he gave me an ambiguous answer. So I think I do not protect from culting.