Mini 2056: Ballroom Blitz (Game Over)

[LabRat01]

nya~ (´∀｀）
i'm town

[LabRat01]

VOTE: Labrat

did you fix your keyboard yet?

noooope! Still haven't
The buttons do work sometomes though, so it's not that bad anymore
Idk, they kinda fix themselves... temporarly
If I don't use them

lol
I'II pr0babIy stiII write Iike that m0st 0f the time, but n0t as much as I had t0 bef0re

[LabRat01]

nya~ (´∀｀）
i'm town

Hello, LabRat01.

What do you think of Eragon's flailing scumfuckery?

Lol

[LabRat01]

lol

[LabRat01]

Anyways, I have my last exam in like... 2 hours?
So bye

[LabRat01]

Too frozen to interact. Bye LabRat.

FEAR MY SCUMHUNTING SKILLS.

frozen rat, eaten by a snake xd

had to
now bye

[LabRat01]

Shouldn’t it be eaten by a duck?

>:(


hmpf
kids these days

[LabRat01]

Can I feeI properIy defeated yet?
Iook how eviI that duck is! >:(

[LabRat01]

I hard claim some kind of Innocent Child/Mason combination. I would rather not go into the conditions and restrictions though.

Spoiler:

If you dont believe me- allow me to prove my townieness by getting this pagetop!

Btw, rather earIy on, but I kinda Iiked Aronis’s tone in his first posts

[LabRat01]

Eragon is,,, probabIy fine as weII
or at Ieast for the time being xd
It’s probabIy not AI, but seeing him meme hard aIways gives me good feeIings

[LabRat01]

And tbh I was thinking of shitting on duck, cuz I didn’t remember anything from him except those weak-ish, yet intense pushes, but now that I Iook at his posts, he wasn’t so infIexibIe with them after aII

[LabRat01]

VOTE: Eragon

VOTE: moment
≖‿≖

Bad vote
feeIs a bit Iacking as for pressure and I don’t remember Moment trying to interact with anyone in any other post
I mean, if they reaIIy care about generating content, they shouId try a bit harder imo
setup discussion obviousIy doesn’t count

[LabRat01]

Hello

[,,,]

VOTE: Eragon

actuaIIy, same here, but that vote was a bit better, cuz it diiiiiiiiid kinda make the wagon Iook more "serious"
or Iike, uh, big enough
or idk

If I'm right with it being pressure, what do you think of eragon's posts so far? and did any other pIayer catch your eye in any way?

[LabRat01]

Can I feeI properIy defeated

now

?
Iook how eviI that duck is! >:(

Ewpop
xd
why can't I edit posts,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
grammar is not my strong suit

[LabRat01]

pew pew pew!

[LabRat01]

[LabRat01]

someone taIk to me

[LabRat01]

I haven't pIayed for at Ieast a month, IoI xd
FM, I missed u
my onIy true Iove

[LabRat01]

If I'm right with it being pressure, what do you think of eragon's posts so far? and did any other pIayer catch your eye in any way?

It has nothing to do with pressure, at least on Eragon. From what I've seen, a 4th vote won't give me any different reaction to the 2nd or 3rd.

then why did you vote?

and Iike, the vote did make the wagon,,, bigger
being at I-2 feeIs way different from being at I-1, so it shouId in theory make the game "more serious"

[LabRat01]

then why did you vote?

[LabRat01]

It may be moire serious but I don't think there will be a showing tell from it.

True

Overall though, my vote is probably less useful than Moments.

Agree t0 disagree
This is pr0b n0t SvS btw

[LabRat01]

i want to post something cool and helpful but i don't really know what to say

What d0 y0u think 0f the current wag0ns?

v0ting w0uId be great btw

[LabRat01]

I can’t say that my read is a str0ng 0ne 0r anything, but as f0r n0w I reaIIy w0uIdn’t mind a wag0n f0rming there

[LabRat01]

I think I sh0uId have m0re p0sts than the m0d n0w

feeIs g00d (￣▼￣)

[LabRat01]

I can’t say that my read is a str0ng 0ne 0r anything, but as f0r n0w I reaIIy w0uIdn’t mind a wag0n f0rming there

So would you be for the current wagon ending to go to Moment?

h0nestIy? yeah

[LabRat01]

I can’t say that my read is a str0ng 0ne 0r anything, but as f0r n0w I reaIIy w0uIdn’t mind a wag0n f0rming there

So would you be for the current wagon ending to go to Moment?

h0nestIy? yeah

I d0n't see any reas0ns f0r wag0ning erag0n and my wag0n at Ieast has a sIight bit 0f reas0ning behind it

[LabRat01]

Shouldn’t it be eaten by a duck?

>:(


hmpf
kids these days

Holy hell how much time did you spend editing this lmfao

ab0ut an h0ur xD
maybe a bit Iess

[LabRat01]

I was b0red, 0k xd

[LabRat01]

maybe n0t b0red, but I just came back h0me and needed sth t0 0ccupy my mind with s0 that I can quit w0rrying xd

[LabRat01]

I hard claim some kind of Innocent Child/Mason combination. I would rather not go into the conditions and restrictions though.

Spoiler:

If you dont believe me- allow me to prove my townieness by getting this pagetop!

Btw, rather earIy on, but I kinda Iiked Aronis’s tone in his first posts

I can see the second one, but like 4 other people did the same thing for the first one, so that shouldn't be AI

the "pr0ve myseIf by getting the paget0p" made me chuckIe
the t0ne was briIIiant xD
Agree that it's a reaIIy weak read th0ugh

[LabRat01]

And tbh I was thinking of shitting on duck, cuz I didn’t remember anything from him except those weak-ish, yet intense pushes, but now that I Iook at his posts, he wasn’t so infIexibIe with them after aII

Ehh duck is probably Town
Like, the fact that the wagon is on me is me, but it felt like natural RvS
(Plus it was kinda fun)

I d0n't get it ): can y0u eIab0rate 0n duck?

[LabRat01]

i want to post something cool and helpful but i don't really know what to say

"I am your father"

That could work :P

DUN DUN DUN!!!

[LabRat01]

You monster

bIush.jpg

[LabRat01]

I d0n't see any reas0ns f0r wag0ning erag0n and my wag0n at Ieast has a sIight bit 0f reas0ning behind it

Can you go over that reasoning again? I didn't really understand it.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Eragon

VOTE: moment
≖‿≖

Bad vote
feeIs a bit Iacking as for pressure and I don’t remember Moment trying to interact with anyone in any other post
I mean, if they reaIIy care about generating content, they shouId try a bit harder imo
setup discussion obviousIy doesn’t count

Hello

[,,,]

VOTE: Eragon

actuaIIy, same here, but that vote was a bit better, cuz it diiiiiiiiid kinda make the wagon Iook more "serious"
or Iike, uh, big enough
or idk

If I'm right with it being pressure, what do you think of eragon's posts so far? and did any other pIayer catch your eye in any way?

I actually agree with you here, moment's vote came post-entrance, so IMO it was meant to be taken as a serious vote? And without having anything to back it up and just like, dropping that vote.

Vedith was right on his entrance, and it puts more of a "pressure" on the wagon, but also he stayed around and talked about reasons and stuff so a bit better than moments

kinda this ^
but I'II rephrase it in a sec

[LabRat01]

I0I, I I0st c0nnecti0n f0r a bit -_-

[LabRat01]

M0ment’s S0D pr0gressi0n:

Ego.

Not too many familiar faces here.

Optimal strategy seems to me to be to force the two scummiest players to pair up so we can get a double lynch.

VOTE: McQueen

Huh. On further reflection, this is a lot more similar to FakeGod's dancing setups than I had thought about before.

Maybe I should've signed up for that other game, too.

Their first p0sts
They didn’t seem interested in interacting with any0ne in any way unreIated t0 the game, which is just fine

VOTE: Eragon

But then, c0nsidering that they weren’t interested in memes, idrk what t0 make 0f that v0te

Erag0n’s wag0n was cIearIy a meme
the wag0n might have been I0ud, but n0 reaI arguments were made f0r him being scum
it was reaIIy cIear t0 me that it was a wag0n with n0 future and that putting “pressure” 0n it w0uId n0t pr0gress the game

54f1y

why are you cutting letters out to make a fake word? seems scummy to me.

that's it boys, Eragon is caught scum. got 'em.

haha yeah I guess you caught me. I'm scum. Whoops!

~p0st made up by duck

That's it. We caught one. String him up team.

Iike, c’m0n, y0u can’t “v0te f0r pressure” with0ut saying anything new, when the main arguments I00k Iike that ^

N0w then, m0ment’s v0te was bare, s0 I’m assuming they weren’t attempting t0 “interact” and “have fun” with the 0ther pIayers
It kinda feIt Iike a seri0us v0te
And it feeIs weird that a pIayer wh0 cares t0 make a seri0us wag0n and “activeIy pr0gress the game” w0uIdn’t try t0 make their 0wn push in this situati0n

Rn I’m reading it as them “awkwardIy trying t0 c0ntribute”, which c0uId Iead t0 them being:
-dis0riented t0wn
0r
-scum wh0’s used t0 “being pr0-active earIy 0n as t0wn”, and just tried t0 “get the j0b d0ne” with0ut actuaIIy caring ab0ut it

Iike, again, I can’t say that I’m actuaIIy c0nfident in this read 0r anything, but it’s just sth that pinged me earIy 0n and I think it’s g00d en0ugh t0 p0ke int0 it a bit

[LabRat01]

just wanted t0 add that bef0re m0ment v0ted, the wag0n 0n erag0n was smaII
Iike, 2 bare-j0ke v0tes

it's m0ment's v0te that made the j0ke-wag0n appear "n0t w0rthIess"
which, again, if y0u think ab0ut it, is a weird thing t0 seri0usIy aim f0r

I can understand it if they were the I0w-p0sting pIayer type and didn't care ab0ut what wag0n they push, but their previ0us p0sts made me think 0therwise

[LabRat01]

I don't think scum would put them out that hard knowingly pushing Town and not knowing what other people would think

what d0es that mean?

[LabRat01]

btw, there were s0 many eg0 p0sts 0n the first 2 pages, d0es that mean there are any hydras in the game?

[LabRat01]

@Ven #130
0h g0d, idk if it's my engIish that's terribIe 0r what, but I have t0 read every sentence severaI times t0 actuaIIy understand what y0u're saying :/ [p edit: 0nIy in the first few sentences, the rest is c00I]
w0uId y0u mind making y0ur next p0sts a bit, uh Iess c0mIex, pIease?
thx

and n0, y0u didn't miss anything, that was p much it

[LabRat01]

So I ask you, why was this not addressed after the vote by yourself?

y0u mean, why did I n0t react immediateIy? 0r why was there n0 discussi0n after my push?
Cuz y0u kn0w,,, b0th are untrue

Also towards Eragon who has a simular opinion on the vote being pretty bad.

Can y0u rephrase this pIease? :/ I d0n’t understand what y0u’re trying t0 say here

The argument of not staying around to discuss is 100% void considering the following posts from both of you had no positive discussion in the matter. I also just see that as more of a comment towards easier to argue against someone who's posting less, otherwise I would have expected the same, if not worse, negative response to a blank vote.

Disagree
The p0st feIt weird t0 me and I did pursue it
Sure, I d0 meme a I0t, but I think I did my part there
Tbh same with erag0n

If anything Aronis holding the game back should be more of a concern and discussion in my opinion than a blank vote early on. Although I doubt it's the case, Aronis looks to be actively delaying progress of the game. That said, I would agree if it were said that yourself, DuckDuck and Eragon are doing the same thing (until this point of course).

I0I

Agree with the case 0n ar0nis th0ugh
D0esn he aIways pIay Iike that?

[LabRat01]

Why is it weird to end the greeting stage of a game?
Would the first person who tried to change the direction of a meme game be under the radar as at least looking more scummy? And if yes, why?

Their other posts are fully NAI other than 40. I also cannot personally tell from 4 post what type of play they are given that 2 are more waste posts so I won't directly argue that as of yet with the assumption you have read previous games of theirs or have seen them.

T0 answer y0ur p0st, I didn’t Iike the directi0n 0f m0ment’s push
Did it pr0gress the game? N0, it didn’t
It was a bad directi0n t0 push in and I th0ught a pIayer wh0 Iegit cared sh0uId have n0ticed that, which is why I decided t0 p0ke there

[LabRat01]

what d0es that mean?

Means it's a terrible comment.

:p0ut:

[LabRat01]

I don't believe that I can generate content that I can read

other people

with.

They

have to do that.

y0u can interact with them
Iike, ask questi0ns and stuff
0r try t0 get s0me t0naI reads
pIacing a bare v0te 0n a pureIy j0ke wag0n is n0t the right way if y0u reaIIy want t0 d0 stuff im0

[LabRat01]

In the interest of fairness, though, getting this kind of response was the express purpose behind my vote. I cast the most stereotypical "scummy" vote possible: a naked vote that was the third on a wagon.

Gj xd

[LabRat01]

Hello

[,,,]

VOTE: Eragon

actuaIIy, same here, but that vote was a bit better, cuz it diiiiiiiiid kinda make the wagon Iook more "serious"
or Iike, uh, big enough
or idk

Mind elaborating on this a bit more?

I was sh0wing the differences in between y0ur and ved’s v0tes
Iike, y0u pressured a smaII, j0ke wag0n, which seemed t0taIIy inefficient t0 me
And they pressured a j0ke wag0n, which was just a tinsy bit bigger, which actuaIIy made the v0te make m0re sense im0
It d0esn’t actuaIIy give me any s0rt 0f read th0ugh
0r at Ieast n0t anything that w0uId Iast I0ng

[LabRat01]

I don't understand what you're trying to get across here when you say that "no real arguments were made for him being scum". Could you elaborate on your point there?

I was saying that it was pure RvS
it was n0t an argument, just trying t0 expIain why I th0ught that seri0usIy v0ting there "in a situati0n Iike that" was weird

[LabRat01]

That's quite an in-depth theory from such little content. Would you really qualify a naked vote as an "awkward attempt to contribute"? I don't see how a naked vote could indicative of either "disoriented town" or an attempt to be pro-active. At face value, a naked vote seems to me to be the antithesis of an attempt to contribute or an attempt to be pro-active.

Ikr ( ✧≖ ͜ʖ≖)
Taken the circumstances? Yeah, I d0 think the v0te was awkward
And tbh m0st 0f the stuff here are subjective

[LabRat01]

I d0n't have en0ugh brainp0wer t0 read the setup discussi0n p0sts rn btw
pr0b g0nna d0 it Iater

[LabRat01]

I stiII haven't read the setup fuIIy
I0I

[LabRat01]

D0es any0ne have any th0ughts ab0ut m0ment’s expIanati0n 0n their v0te 0n erag0n?
Iike, it sh0uId be AI in s0me way, but I d0n’t have a I0t 0f experience with gambits and thinking ab0ut it makes me g0 in circIes

[LabRat01]

It’s kinda irritating

[LabRat01]

Oh, thought I answered this earlier. My intentions were to get something to happen. My vote was intentionally stereotypically scummy in a way that I figured would get someone to jump on it. And of course there's the obvious intention of simply jumping on a wagon.

I thought you did answer more or less, I just wanted to make sure that I was on the right wave length.

So to LabRat, what's your view on the above? And this isn't me trying to make a dig or have you just change your view if it reads as it, I'm actually curious.
Do you think that Moment is lying here now and taken the rope dangled going by the conversation so far concerning my vote in this, or do you think that they actually. wanted to do a reaction check?

0h, I0I :/
didn't read it previ0usIy

[LabRat01]

ninjaed by a bunch 0f p0sts


irdk, as I said bef0re, I d0n't have a I0t 0f experience with gambits
I disIike them in generaI, but I d0 reaIize that there are a I0t 0f pIayers, especiaIIy the newer 0nes, wh0 "think they can perf0rm them succesfuIIy"

fr0m what I've seen, it tends t0 disappear with experience and with,,, uh,,, the am0unt 0f th0ught and eff0rt a pIayer puts in their p0sts
Iike, it's kinda c0nnected t0 what I said bef0re, the m0re eff0rt y0u generaIIy put int0 y0ur p0sts, the easier it is f0r y0u t0 pr0gress the game in a "safe" way with0ut having t0 risk getting y0urseIf Iynched

M0ment seems Iike a p c0ntributive pIayer and d0es have quite a few games 0n this acc0unt, which is kinda thr0wing me 0ff
and them having en0ugh WIM t0 think 0f a pIan Iike that, whiIe n0t having en0ugh WIM t0 taIk t0 any0ne feeIs weird as weII
they might have th0ught 0f it bef0re the game started th0ugh, s0 idek if I sh0uId seri0usIy get int0 it

It is p0ssibIe that they did Iie ab0ut the idea, but then again, I'm n0t sure if it's that bad either
I guess it sh0uId be? but tbf when I started pIaying I did tend t0 Iie in my p0sts quite a bit, regarding Iike, pushes and game ideas and making my p0sts I00k s0 much m0re impressive than they actuaIIy were
I think I m0stIy g0t 0ver it, but I aIs0 think I might have n0ticed a few 0ther pIayers d0ing stuff that was reaIIy simiIar :/ Iike teIIing th0se IittIe, white Iies, that d0n't reaIIy make sense and make their read pr0gressi0n I00k siIIy

but it's n0t even be that c0mm0n, I think,,,
th0se were just a few pIayers


tbh just f0rget ab0ut it I am reaIIy getting frustrated whiIe thinking ab0ut that, cuz whiIe the p0st d0es I00k Iike it might be heIpfuI, it's s0 freaking ann0ying t0 anaIyze
just d0n't ask me ab0ut it
I'm pr0b g0nna pretend it never existed, cuz it pr0b w0uIdn't have given me a Iasting read anyways
s0rry

[LabRat01]

writing that t00k me way t00 I0ng

[LabRat01]

i want to post something cool and helpful but i don't really know what to say

What d0 y0u think 0f the current wag0ns?

v0ting w0uId be great btw

i don't really feel a need to vote rn though. it'd just be pretty random

:/

[LabRat01]

Why is it weird to end the greeting stage of a game?
Would the first person who tried to change the direction of a meme game be under the radar as at least looking more scummy? And if yes, why?

Their other posts are fully NAI other than 40. I also cannot personally tell from 4 post what type of play they are given that 2 are more waste posts so I won't directly argue that as of yet with the assumption you have read previous games of theirs or have seen them.

T0 answer y0ur p0st, I didn’t Iike the directi0n 0f m0ment’s push

Did it pr0gress the game? N0, it didn’t

It was a bad directi0n t0 push in and I th0ught a pIayer wh0 Iegit cared sh0uId have n0ticed that, which is why I decided t0 p0ke there

Again – you're proven yourself wrong.

It seems like you're asserting that I should for some reason have agreed with your opinion that it was a "bad direction to push in" — whatever that means — and thus made a mistake in naked voting Eragon instead of some other play. Why was it a "poor direction" in the first place, and why should I have agreed with you on that?

uhh and n0w I'm getting sick 0f this wh0Ie c0nversati0n

I aIready expIained why I th0ught y0ur push was bad
assuming y0u weren't gambitting, my read is reaIIy easy t0 understand
I expIained it muItipIe times as weII

my push d0esn't incIude y0ur "gambit" and it c0uIdn't have becuase y0u p0sted ab0ut it "after" I wr0te my read

Am I right in assuming that RN y0u’re thinking ab0ut “gambitting” being the I00p in my read?
Iike,

w0uId my read make sense assuming n0 gambit happened?

Iets start fr0m here

[LabRat01]

If y0u think it W0UIDN’T,
expIain it t0 me pIease

I said that

“sheeping weak wag0ns

<

making c0ntributive pushes”

and that

“I was expecting sth m0re fr0m a pIayer wh0 cares ~ gut ~ y0u”

, meaning that there is a chance that the v0te was scum-m0tivated
If y0u think the read is weak,
Sure! Yeah, it is!

But y0u seem t0 put a I0t 0f eff0rt int0 taIking with me ab0ut it and it feeIs kinda weird
Did my p0st give y0u any s0rt 0f read 0n me? if s0, eIab0rate 0n it pIease

[LabRat01]

y0u mean, why did I n0t react immediateIy? 0r why was there n0 discussi0n after my push?
Cuz y0u kn0w,,, b0th are untrue

I mean, exactly as Moment asked. Why was it not mentioned as a bad vote or discussed further after the vote?
Both you and Eragon posted several times before actually addressing it.

I didn’t read the thread fuIIy at first, I had an exam in the m0rning and I just skipped thr0ugh the maj0rity 0f the p0sts
My earIy p0sts were just a c0nfirmati0n

And tbh it’s n0t Iike fishing that p0st 0ut 0f aII the shitp0sts was easy either
Iike, it takes s0me eff0rt t0 get reads near S0D and as I said bef0re, the p0st wasn’t even that scummy
It aII0wed me t0 take that step f0rward, but getting t0 the p0int where I c0uId teII if it was NAI/scummy/t0wnie t00k at Ieast a few minutes 0f thinking and thread-reading

Same with the 0ther p0sts

[LabRat01]

I didn't "gambit". I voted someone because I wanted something to happen.

wiki:
"A Gambit is any action made to achieve some kind of advantage, usually requiring some degree of risk. "

y0u made the stere0typicaIIy scummy p0st 0n purp0se, which fits the definiti0n perfectIy
n0t that it matters th0ugh

[LabRat01]

But you didn't address it at the time.
52 - Vote happens
56 - 57 59 / 61 / 62 / 67 / 78 / 79 / 80 / 81 / 82 - Posts not concerning Moment
83 - Comment against the vote.
By this, the argument to not stay around to discuss is void. You made no attempt to discuss the vote until Post 83.

btw, s0me 0f the p0sts y0u qu0ted were the 0ther reads I g0t at the time when I was re-reading stuff
It’s n0t Iike,,, that p0st was the 0ne and 0nIy, I0I
I mean, if y0u even tried t0 read my p0sts, it’d be 0bvi0us that “I was trying t0 get reads” at that time
It isn’t that hard t0 deduce
Iike, this is getting a bit nitpicky

[LabRat01]

I townread this.

:down:

I think it's reasonable. Counterintuitive as it may seem, I think most scum would shy away from making a comment as actively non-participatory as that one. (Don't mistake what I'm saying for "too scummy to be scum" – that's not what I'm saying.)

actuaIIy, I s000rt 0f agree with the read :/
he seems c0mpIeteIy uncaring, which I've seen c0me m0re 0ften fr0m t0wn than scum
I d0n’t think it sh0uId be c0nsidered scummy in generaI

he did say that he pIayed FM f0r 5 years th0ugh, which sh0uId be way m0re than en0ugh t0 Iearn h0w t0 fake it, especiaIIy if he tends t0 d0 that a I0t
Iike, idrk ab0ut him rn
I w0uIdn’t want t0 Iynch him, but he's n0t a pIayer wh0 I think I'II be abIe t0 get a c0nfident read 0n

[LabRat01]

I have a slight suspicion on Eragon for his ignoring of my vote until Labrat brought it up as scummy

:up:

Given it wasn't ignored, just not addressed in a way that Eragon decided to after LabRat did. I back this.

sigh, rephrase this pIease
I can't understand a w0rd fr0m it

[LabRat01]

Again, maybe so. However, why do you think that the only 2 out comes from your vote is pressure on you or pressure on Eragon?

Those were the two most probably outcomes I thought of. Something else entirely could've come up, of course, but that's what I was thinking when I made the vote.

:0

[LabRat01]

I have a slight suspicion on Eragon for his ignoring of my vote until Labrat brought it up as scummy

:up:

Given it wasn't ignored, just not addressed in a way that Eragon decided to after LabRat did. I back this.

sigh, rephrase this pIease
I can't understand a w0rd fr0m it

wait, wr0ng, wr0ng, wr0ng xd
I'm p sure that's an idi0m fr0m my native Ianguage, it s0unds g00d t0 me, but idk if it transIates weII t0 engIish

but just rephrase the p0st pIease

[LabRat01]

But you didn't address it at the time.
52 - Vote happens
56 - 57 59 / 61 / 62 / 67 / 78 / 79 / 80 / 81 / 82 - Posts not concerning Moment
83 - Comment against the vote.
By this, the argument to not stay around to discuss is void. You made no attempt to discuss the vote until Post 83.

btw, s0me 0f the p0sts y0u qu0ted were the 0ther reads I g0t at the time when I was re-reading stuff
It’s n0t Iike,,, that p0st was the 0ne and 0nIy, I0I
I mean, if y0u even tried t0 read my p0sts, it’d be 0bvi0us that “I was trying t0 get reads” at that time
It isn’t that hard t0 deduce
Iike, this is getting a bit nitpicky

I think you're missing my point entirely. It's not nitpicky at all. But it still stands that the blank vote was not addressed at the time and there was a large gap where you ignore it.
What you are now referring as trying to get reads would show more as selective reads from yourself instead.

I0I?

I didn’t reaIIy care ab0ut reading the game at the beginning, which is rather n0rmaI c0nsidering my situati0n
And I said that getting the read was a resuIt 0f me putting in eff0rt t0 reread the game

S0 what the heck are y0u SRing rn? being unabIe t0 n0tice scummy/t0wnie p0sts at first gIance?
I mean, wtf
I didn’t address the p0st n0r say anything ab0ut my reads bef0re because I didn’t have them yet
I re-read the thread, g0t the reads and I p0sted them
?????????????????????????
Y0u can IiteraIIy see it in my IS0

What you are now referring as trying to get reads would show more as selective reads from yourself instead.

And tbh I d0n’t kn0w if y0u’re trying t0 say that “my reads sh0uId have been better” 0r that “I’m Iying ab0ut making them in the first pIace”, but Iike, what?
Idk if it’s me wh0’s missing the p0int entireIy 0r that p0st just abs0IuteIy d0esn’t make sense

Can y0u expIain what the fuck are y0u taIking ab0ut? Iike, idk if I sh0uId SR it 0r if it’s a shitty reacti0n test, because fundamentaIIy d0esn’t even make sense
That’s Iike a push beI0w Iv 0
Just wtf are y0u d0ing

[LabRat01]

UNVOTE:
Sigh
I t00k s0me time t0 rethink and s0Iidify my reads 0n Ved and M0ment;
I’m pr0b g0nna p0st them in a bit, after I check them f0r grammar and make them a bit easier t0 read
Anyways, I’m stiII waiting f0r an answer fr0m Ved
My read Iike, changed quite a bit, which I reaIIy didn’t expect, but I’d stiII want them t0 expIain it t0 me

[LabRat01]

Anyways, I d0n’t think I want a d1 wag0n 0n either Ved 0r m0ment anym0re (T⌓T)
I th0ught I didn’t Iike them at first, but then it changed
Iike, uh, idk h0w t0 expIain it, but it just did (T⌓T)

[LabRat01]

I’m kinda at a I0ss 0f what t0 d0 rn

[LabRat01]

VOTE: redtea

D0 y0u have any th0ughts ab0ut anything that happened yesterday?

[LabRat01]

1) holy god i can barely read any of this

And s0rry, I reaIIy can’t d0 anything ab0ut it ):
My keyb0ard is br0ken and CTRI+V –ing every o and L makes writing p0sts s0 freakng difficuIt,,,
I’II pr0b g0 t0 fix it s00n th0ugh, cuz the charger and battery aren’t w0rking pr0perIy either and I sh0uId have s0me free time in the next few days

[LabRat01]

So it could be a "look scum right away to be forgotten later" tactic.

d0 y0u actuaIIy beIieve in that?
[regardIess 0f h0w I0ng the days are]
and y0u seem t0 have read the wh0Ie thread, s0 d0 y0u have any reads rn?

[LabRat01]

btw, the inactivity is disgusting

[LabRat01]

Scum confirmed.

Who? Where? Why?

(ಠ ∩ಠ)

Read the game

[LabRat01]

M0ment’s resp0nse t0 my read was 0k; tbh I stiII can’t decide if I want t0 read int0 the IikeIiness 0f their gambit being intenti0naI, but I kinda Iiked the t0ne 0f their p0sts when they were taIking ab0ut it
I didn’t Iike h0w str0ngIy they reacted t0 my read at first, but after thinking a0but it, c0nsidering h0w much I actuaIIy wr0te ab0ut it, it d0es make sense :/
I can’t reaIIy say anything bad ab0ut their reads either; I mean, n0thing game changing, but that’s t0 be expected in a game where haIf 0f the pIayers are inactive
S0 whiIe I can’t say that anything they wr0te gave me a str0ng read, I think their pr0gressi0n is understandabIe and kinda makes sense fr0m a t0wnie’s p0v
S0 they’re 0ff my Iist f0r t0day, I think

[LabRat01]

And tbh I’m reaIIy struggIing with reading Ved; He did p0st a I0t 0f game reIated/pr0gressive c0ntent, but I’m having a hard time deaIing with his way 0f d0ing it
I’m p sure it’s partiaIIy because I struggIe with reading his p0sts in generaI, but after making the read, I think he sh0uId aIs0 have aIs0 a rather uh, seIective way 0f getting reads, which has reaIIy thr0wn me 0ff at the beginning

I mean, I think
Tbh getting that read t00k me IiteraI h0urs; I think my “read” and interpretati0n 0f his m0tivati0ns sh0uId be c0rrect, but I’d take them with a grain 0f saIt, because I just reaIIy can’t discard the p0ssibiIty that s0me 0f the stuff which suddenIy started making sense t0 me weren’t just made up by me
I’m taIking ab0ut sth Iike, when y0u think ab0ut sth f0r t00 I0ng, the brain gets 0verheated and y0u repIace the actuaI events with y0ur “desired interpretati0n”
Again, I d0n’t think it’s happening here and that “interpretati0n” I g0t wasn’t even desired, but I just wanted t0 say that, cuz I did n0tice it happening t0 me bef0re and it wasn’t that nice getting yeIIed at because 0f it Iater

Anyways, there a few things I stiII want t0 ask Ved ab0ut, but after a re-read I d0n’t think I can reaIIy SR him anym0re :/

This is pr0b n0t SvS btw

I don't think scum would put them out that hard knowingly pushing Town and not knowing what other people would think

what d0es that mean?

Means it's a terrible comment.

First 0ff, it’s unreIated, but f0r s0me reas0n, at the beginning, I was reading the reacti0ns as “read changes”, which feIt just 0ff and weird
But it d0es make sense if the p0sts are just ab0ut “disagreement” :/
Iike, it’s stupid, but it wasn’t that 0bvi0us t0 me, s0 I wanted t0 menti0n it

Fr0m what I’ve seen in his p0sts, Ved seems t0 be rather sparse in giving TRs and reaIIy quick in pushing every0ne ar0und him, which reads rather p0sitiveIy t0 me in s0me 0f his p0sts

After the response from Moment, I feel that they used the most obvious reason to clear up the reason.

Possibly. There's a reason I'm not voting you and that's because it's plausible that you did so happen to do it for the reasons already addressed.

Iike, f0r exampIe, I Iike his attitude in here
Him saying that “there’s a reas0n f0r N0T v0ting M0ment”, after he defended them f0r s0 I0ng, gives me a reaIIy g00d feeIing
I mean, it feeIs as if he didn’t care ab0ut maintaining any s0rt 0f c0nsistent “image”, but was s0IeIy f0cusing 0n scum-hunting
It’s n0t a str0ng argument, but the pr0gressi0n d0es make a I0t m0re sense t0 me c0ming fr0m t0wn than scum

So to LabRat, what's your view on the above? And this isn't me trying to make a dig or have you just change your view if it reads as it, I'm actually curious.

This is aIs0 a fun p0st
It made me fr0wn at first, but n0w it seems just kinda funny
I mean, he feIt a need t0 expIain that he’s “n0t pushing/manipuIating me”, which I reaIIy think is funny

This kinda makes his 0ther p0sts I00k better, because it impIies that m0st 0f his 0ther p0sts were intended t0 be “pushes” and this 0ne is a Iegit “questi0n” m0tivated by him n0t kn0wing h0w t0 anaIyze sth;
Iike, it’s pr0b n0t an infaIIibIe teII, but it d0es impIy s0me s0rt 0f “th0ught pr0cess” reaIIy taking pIace, which again, sh0uId pr0babIy be m0re 0f a t0wn sign

Tbh a I0t 0f his p0sts make m0re sense t0 me after trying t0 f0cus 0n his read pr0gressi0n :/
As I said bef0re, he seems t0 be rather quick t0 SR pe0pIe and hesitant t0 TR them, which feeIs rather t0wnie in s0me 0f his p0sts,,,

I stiII d0n’t Iike that push I wr0te ab0ut bef0re, but I’m kinda starting t0 think that I reaIIy might have misunderst00d it after aII
Iike, it reaIIy d0esn’t make any sense fr0m either p0v, s0 even assuming that I was right, I d0n’t kn0w what t0 make 0f it
I just kinda want him t0 expIain it rn; I d0n’t think I’m c0mpIeteIy set 0n it, but regardIess if it was t0wn 0r scum-m0tivated, I think asking ab0ut it is the right way t0 g0 ab0ut

[LabRat01]

actuaIIy
VOTE: AP

PartiaIIy pressure, partiaIIy because I read 0ne 0f his t0wn games, where he pIayed Iike reaIIy, reaIIy weII and I kn0w that he can d0 a I0t better than he's d0ing in here

change my mind

[LabRat01]

Town- Eevee, Lab
*very slight* town- Vedith, Redtea
Null- everyone else
Slight scum- ThegoldenParadox, (originally Moment but now I’m just confused)

Y redtea town?

why d0 y0u think they're scum?

[LabRat01]

0mg, I just f0und a f0nt that makes zer0s I00k Iike 0 :D
This is genius, I d0n’t have t0 fix my keyb0ard anym0re

[LabRat01]

Well I'm on the PC now and able to discuss, I thought I had something else I wanted to address from LabRat but I think I need to know what posts in particular I need to re address first to make sure we are on the same understanding of what I mean at least.

But you didn't address it at the time.
52 - Vote happens
56 - 57 59 / 61 / 62 / 67 / 78 / 79 / 80 / 81 / 82 - Posts not concerning Moment
83 - Comment against the vote.
By this, the argument to not stay around to discuss is void. You made no attempt to discuss the vote until Post 83.

btw, s0me 0f the p0sts y0u qu0ted were the 0ther reads I g0t at the time when I was re-reading stuff
It’s n0t Iike,,, that p0st was the 0ne and 0nIy, I0I
I mean, if y0u even tried t0 read my p0sts, it’d be 0bvi0us that “I was trying t0 get reads” at that time
It isn’t that hard t0 deduce
Iike, this is getting a bit nitpicky

I think you're missing my point entirely. It's not nitpicky at all. But it still stands that the blank vote was not addressed at the time and there was a large gap where you ignore it.
What you are now referring as trying to get reads would show more as selective reads from yourself instead.

MainIy this ^ I reaIIy didn’t Iike that p0st
Y0u SRd me f0r n0t making the push immediateIy and I answered by expIaining my pr0gressi0n
Which y0u seem t0 have just denied??? and c0ntinued y0ur SR?

that's just fundamentaIIy bad
Iike, h0w much w0uId y0u have t0 think t0 deduce that y0ur push d0esn’t even make sense?
Iater 0n I said that it I00ked Iike y0u “pushed me f0r being unabIe t0 n0tice scummy/t0wnie p0sts at first gIance” and tbh it’s stiII the m0st reas0nabIe interpretati0n I can get 0ut 0f it rn

What you are now referring as trying to get reads would show more as selective reads from yourself instead.

And rephrase that
I’m having a hard time reading that in any way 0ther than: “if y0u reaIIy g0t any reads, they w0uId sh0w differentIy than they did”
Which is just,,, wtf

-------------------------

and yeah, I d0n't mind y0u eIab0rating 0n y0ur read 0n Erag0n
Was the argument ab0ut "n0t reacting immediateIy" y0ur 0nIy reas0n f0r v0ting him 0r did y0u have any 0ther reads?
thx

[LabRat01]

TheGoldenParadox - Someone I'm willing to vote against. Felt the 2 posts today 200 / 205 were just an excuse to not comment.

Say that all me, Eragon, LabRat and Comment are town

(Hard to think, I know) then trying to lay low while we all discuss at each other could pan out well with the excuse of "too much to read". Took the time to read and quote LabRat's posts, half which were actually about the game and progression.

the underIined is untrue, y0u're pr0b mistaking him f0r s0me0ne
the rest is fair th0ugh

[LabRat01]

ugh, sry gtg, g0nna read the rest Iater
d0n't have a I0t 0f time t0day

[LabRat01]

Wtf, the font changed 0 to o on the computer
Why doesn't it work on the phone

[LabRat01]

But really gtg xd
Bbl

[LabRat01]

VOTE: red
actuaIIy, I kinda agree with duck’s case
The the0ry Red made in that I0ng-ish p0st d0esn’t seem beIievabIe 0r dependabIe in any way, s0 them taking the time t0 write it feeIs uh,,,
maybe n0t weird, but it d0es give the feeIing 0f “empty c0ntributi0n” and wanting t0 “appear t0wnie” with0ut actuaIIy scum-hunting
The rest 0f the p0st is rather useIess as weII

That’s a meh read, but I’m 0k with sheeping it rn :/ d0n’t have anything better t0 f0cus 0n anyways

[LabRat01]

So from the entire game and with everything said your only current input is "Vote RedTea because his post is bad".

That’s actuaIIy what FM is ab0ut tbh

[LabRat01]

if he's scum he will continue to spew

I feeI very sIightIy 0ffended (ಠ ∩ಠ)

[LabRat01]

Mastina might extend day 1 with the replacement of NicoRobin

She will not, read the setup rules

Nico is also active elsewhere on site so it could actually be she did not like this role pm. I dont think nico flaking is that consistent of a scumtell but if we could just start lynching bottom to top of activity

VOTE: nicorobin

if shes flaking idt lynching would increase the likelihood of her talking before the sub.though we also dont have time to wait for a sub.what an annoying pickle. ill stay on mine and see if we can divide and get words out of people and still get a lynch at deadline.

I didn’t reaIIy Iike the Iast sentence, feeIs kinda weird in this gamestate
And perhaps sIightIy Iamist

D0 y0u have any th0ughts ab0ut the active pIayers besides me and erag0n? Iike, any actuaI reads? And what d0 y0u think 0f the push 0n red?

[LabRat01]

@m0d,

wiII the game get paused if there are t00 many repIacements?

<<< Answered in 589. >>>

[LabRat01]

Okay, great. I can't understand what's going on in the game right now. The posts are barely readable. That being said, I went through Lab's ISO, and all of it strikes me as someone who isn't really doing anything to help the gamestate, but trying very hard to look like he is. I'll make a case in a bit, but for now VOTE: LabRat01.
I don't see anybody trying to develop a consensus on the dance mechanic, but people should be dancing as much as possible. We need those PTs.

Hi t0 y0u as weII

[LabRat01]

Okay, great. I can't understand what's going on in the game right now. The posts are barely readable. That being said, I went through Lab's ISO, and all of it strikes me as someone who isn't really doing anything to help the gamestate, but trying very hard to look like he is. I'll make a case in a bit, but for now VOTE: LabRat01.
I don't see anybody trying to develop a consensus on the dance mechanic, but people should be dancing as much as possible. We need those PTs.

Hi t0 y0u as weII

It’s kinda ir0nic, but I think that’s a reaIIy t0wnie p0st

[LabRat01]

and a case w0uId be great
thx

[LabRat01]

I don't see anybody trying to develop a consensus on the dance mechanic, but people should be dancing as much as possible. We need those PTs.

btw, PTs w0n't even exist f0r I0ng cuz I0vers die t0gether and there are n0 pr0tectives in the game
s0 tbh if y0u want an usefuI pt, y0u have t0 pick scum

I d0n't think I ever gave my 0pini0n 0n the SR+TR dance idea, cuz pers0naIIy I'm n0t sure what's the IikeIyh00d 0f it backfiring instead 0f heIping t0wn, but I just wanted t0 say that if any0ne wh0 cares ab0ut it wants t0 get a dance, they sh0uId start discussing it n0w 0r the day might end with0ut anyting happening

[LabRat01]

MainIy this ^ I reaIIy didn’t Iike that p0st
Y0u SRd me f0r n0t making the push immediateIy and I answered by expIaining my pr0gressi0n
Which y0u seem t0 have just denied??? and c0ntinued y0ur SR?

I don't Scum read you though? I was trying to sort your motivation to how you acted.
I also never denied what you said, you just didn't understand my point. The point is irrelevant now but I was saying that you did not react for a while, which is true regardless of the reason for not doing so.

0h :/
weII, 0k, I guess that makes sense

And rephrase that
I’m having a hard time reading that in any way 0ther than: “if y0u reaIIy g0t any reads, they w0uId sh0w differentIy than they did”
Which is just,,, wtf

I'm saying that it would look like you are selective reading, by only looking for particular reads. It doesn't mean much overall, just that I don't like how you did it.

ugh xd
s0rry

[LabRat01]

I feeI dumb n0w

[LabRat01]

VOTE: red
actuaIIy, I kinda agree with duck’s case
The the0ry Red made in that I0ng-ish p0st d0esn’t seem beIievabIe 0r dependabIe in any way, s0 them taking the time t0 write it feeIs uh,,,
maybe n0t weird, but it d0es give the feeIing 0f “empty c0ntributi0n” and wanting t0 “appear t0wnie” with0ut actuaIIy scum-hunting
The rest 0f the p0st is rather useIess as weII

That’s a meh read, but I’m 0k with sheeping it rn :/ d0n’t have anything better t0 f0cus 0n anyways

Why do you enjoy making bad posts when I start to like you?

hahaha yw
always at your service

[LabRat01]

btw, PTs w0n't even exist f0r I0ng cuz I0vers die t0gether and there are n0 pr0tectives in the game

Where is this information from?

I'm p sure it's in the 0P
gimme a sec

[LabRat01]

• This game features no investigatives or protectives (other roles are fair game).
  
• This game wasn't reviewed, and is undoubtedly theoretically scumsided.

[LabRat01]

0k, gtg again

actuaIIy, since my keyb0ard seems t0 be an issue, I'd Iike t0 ask h0w many 0f y0u see an o and h0w many see 0 here

0

I'm using a f0nt that makes the zer0s turn int0 "o", but f0r s0me reas0n it d0esn't seem t0 w0rk everywhere
Since the "br0ken" f0nt I00ks way w0rse than the "w0rking" 0ne, I'II be using it 0nIy if the maj0rity 0f the pIayers can indeed see an "o"
an answer w0uId be appreciated

[LabRat01]

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

This slot needs to go up. Otherwise AP should go up.
Challenge me.

I reaIIy d0 think that their v0te was g00d
The maj0rity 0f the pIayers seemed t0 TR me and I can see where my p0sts c0uId be seen as Iamist

it kinda strikes me as wanting t0 change directi0n in a c0mpIeteIy inactive game, where it c0uIdn't even be scum m0tivated, cuz "scum has n0thing t0 be afraid 0f rn"
Iike, it w0uId IiteraIIy be en0ugh t0 pick a t0wn-shitter and make a case 0n them instead 0f picking a difficuIt and unIikeIy t0 get Iynched target

[LabRat01]

I mean, that's pr0b n0t the str0ngest case ever, but I reaIIy can't disIike s0me0ne wh0's jsut trying

[LabRat01]

I see 0

0h ):

[LabRat01]

Spoiler:

that's h0w I see it :/

Spoiler:

and that's h0w I see my previ0us p0sts
It's a shame it d0esn't w0rk

[LabRat01]

You should vote with me regardless.
Their vote and post was terrible and nothing they have done or said has even slightly impressed me.

They might mind blow me of the case the will be doing, but I really doubt it will if it will even happen.

Also I will be offering a dance soon. I'm only going to offer to people who actually post. If anyone has a preference to pair up with me then let me know.
My favoured right now to pair up with is DuckDuck and only because I feel that me and LabRat may mis understand each other in the PT.

if y0u 0ffer a dance t0 s0me0ne wh0 actuaIIy p0sts and isn't scum, y0u'II die I0I
and I w0uIdn't even accept y0ur dance tbh
s0rry, n0t pers0naI, but I reaIIy just d0n't think it's a g00d idea
and the game has n0 pr0tectives s0 tbh if we're b0th t0wn that's just a g0d damn suicide

and tbh n0
I aIready said that, but I reaIIy am seri0us with Iiking the v0te, it didn't seem Iike c0ming fr0m a scum p0v
besides, I'm s0rta curi0us ab0ut the read xd
I mean, I aIready kn0w what it's g0na be ab0ut, but idk

[LabRat01]

it's pr0b n0t a very g00d way t0 g0 ab0ut the game but I have Iike this REAIIY, REAIIY g00d feeIing ab0ut it n0w
partiaIIy becasue what I said bef0re

[LabRat01]

it's pr0b n0t a very g00d way t0 g0 ab0ut the game but I have Iike this REAIIY, REAIIY g00d feeIing ab0ut it n0w
partiaIIy becasue

0F

what I said bef0re

EWP0P xd

[LabRat01]

wait, I just read that if y0u reject the dance, it means starting a dueI with the 0ne wh0 0ffered the dance xd

uh
I sh0uId have read the 0P a bit m0re carefuIIy bef0re

[LabRat01]

reaIIy gtg
pr0b g0nna be back in Iike 2-3 h0urs
bye

[LabRat01]

actuaIIy, it turns 0ut I have t0 wait at Ieast 30 min bef0re g0ing 0ut xd
any0ne wants t0 taIk?

[LabRat01]

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

This slot needs to go up. Otherwise AP should go up.
Challenge me.

I reaIIy d0 think that their v0te was g00d
The maj0rity 0f the pIayers seemed t0 TR me and I can see where my p0sts c0uId be seen as Iamist

it kinda strikes me as wanting t0 change directi0n in a c0mpIeteIy inactive game, where it c0uIdn't even be scum m0tivated, cuz "scum has n0thing t0 be afraid 0f rn"
Iike, it w0uId IiteraIIy be en0ugh t0 pick a t0wn-shitter and make a case 0n them instead 0f picking a difficuIt and unIikeIy t0 get Iynched target

I mean, that's pr0b n0t the str0ngest case ever, but I reaIIy can't disIike s0me0ne wh0's jsut trying

@Ved, can y0u c0mment 0n that?
0r Iike, it'd be great if y0u c0uId eIab0rate 0n y0ur case 0n TGP in generaI

[LabRat01]

It may be moire serious but I don't think there will be a showing tell from it.

True

Overall though, my vote is probably less useful than Moments.

Agree t0 disagree

This is pr0b n0t SvS btw

Vedith v Moment? How can you be so sure? I got slight town vibes from Vedith, but it was still early, so not like those couldn’t change

It was s0rt 0f a gut read based 0n h0w str0ngIy Ved defended M0ment right after the game started, with0ut actuaIIy TRing them
he had abs0IuteIy n0 reas0n t0 st0p my push/pressure and assuming they were SvS, he sh0uId have been aware that interacti0ns Iike th0se are 0ften SR after a scum-fIip
BasicaIIy, I th0ught that if he was scum, he w0uId be m0re IikeIy t0 just Iet me pressure his teammate instead 0f meekIy defending them Iike that, especiaIIy since my pressure wasn't even that str0ng and was unIikeIy t0 generate any bad reacti0ns

[LabRat01]

They are actually trying to coast the day. I believe that the post where they quoted your "spam" was done just to dip their toes in the water. If those quotes were quoted to build a case then the actual spam posts quoted would have been different, not to mention they apologised straight away as if they didn't want to go ahead with it.

I think I'd Iike t0 see him c0mment 0n that

I also believe the "I'll build the case later" to be fake. I might be wrong here but I strongly feel that I'm not wrong.
A case now will either not happen or will be forced as fuck. A forced case will be easy to spot and if they do it I'll be pushing it hard.

It looks like they have only looked at your posts and completely ignored everyone else. The amount of information your posts have out weights the spam or worthless posts by far.

y0u actuaIIy made me read my 0wn IS0
tbh, thank y0u
I remembered s0me things as a I0t w0rse than they were (¬､¬) I didn’t think I did that much and I actuaIIy remembered s0me 0f my p0sts as reaIIy bad,,,
N0 0ne sp0ke ab0ut any 0f them bef0re and pe0pIe were s0meh0w TRing me instead, s0 it made me kinda happy when I f0und s0me0ne wh0 seemed t0 have a simiIar 0pini0n,,, But n0w that I think ab0ut it, wtf, that didn’t even make sense
And up0n a reread, the p0sts weren’t even that bad

I sh0uId reaIIy j0ke Iess th0ugh, m0st 0f the j0kes weren’t even funny

Just, uh, f0rget ab0ut that pIease
M0st 0f my arguments f0r TRing the v0te kinda shattered
Ugh, it’s stupid, but I reaIIy can’t pretend they didn’t
I stiII can’t say I disIike him much, but I’d reaIIy Iike him t0 eIab0rate 0n the case rn
And tbh the argument that “he c0uId have wanted t0 defend his scummate” stiII d0esn’t make much sense t0 me
Iike, n0t in that gamestate
But it d0esn’t reaIIy matter
The rest is g00d th0ugh, I w0uId kinda want t0 see him c0mment 0n it

[LabRat01]

Hmm that's a little townie from ap in tone

^

[LabRat01]

Evee has been 0n my mind quite a bit IateIy btw
They're n0t 0ne 0f the shitters, but despite being here the wh0Ie time, n0thing fr0m the stuff they wr0te impressed me in any way
Their v0tes didn't make much sense either and they kept writing th0se sIightIy Iamist-I00king p0sts fr0m time t0 time with0ut actuaIIy heIping much

Iike, m0st 0f the times they're just pure n0ise,,, S0metimes they might write sth seemingIy heIpfuI [but n0t reaIIy]
and that's it

Iike, I'm kinda hesitant t0 just g0 straight t0 a Iynch becuase their p0sts make me feeI Iike they might be an easiIy mis-IynchabIe pIayer in generaI, but tbh I d0n't think I'd miss them much if they went away

d0es any0ne have any th0ughts ab0ut them 0r any experience with them as t0wn 0r scum?

[LabRat01]

Iike, m0st 0f the

time

s

fuck xd
I request the right to edit my posts
Why did a "S" pop in there

[LabRat01]

ಠ_ಠ
I’m Iike reaIIy, reaIIy tempted t0 just 0MGUS TGP’s p0sts

[LabRat01]

I see her "working hard", and her posts are good. But there's no town motivation in them. She doesn't seem like she's trying to scumhunt - she seems like "hey, look, I'm town!" by posting a ton of content, maybe, but look at her posts. The intent of those posts is not to scumhunt. The intent of those posts is not to help town find scum, because in that bod of posts, there is a air of knowing, being informed, of whom town is. That's the vibe I'm getting.

I reaIIy d0n’t kn0w h0w t0 resp0nd t0 that
Can y0u at Ieast qu0te my p0sts? Which p0sts made y0u feeI my pushes were insincere?
And if y0u think s0me were TMI, it w0uId be w0rth qu0ting them as weII
Y0u’re basicaIIy saying that “I’m scum because I’m faking my reads and I kn0w wh0 the t0wnies are”, which is a statement 0n a n0n-pers0naI IeveI
Just eIab0rate 0n it pIease

[LabRat01]

But none of this matters NOW, for the simple reason that...
AP offered to dance with me, and RIGHT NOW I hate that. So... no. I can't see the town motivation in that. That is blind sheeping. No.

Reject Dance

VOTE: AP

And what made y0u think sheeping was s0 incredibIy scum-indicative here?

[LabRat01]

To respond to vedith - I'm not sure how my vote and post was terrible outside of you chainsaw defending Lab. Clearly the second I voted lab you jumped on me and scumread it while he townread it, so i'm visualizing a possibility of a lab/ved/? scumteam - it makes sense as they did seem to spam up the thread together and vedith seems to be hard attacking me for a vote.

That p0st gives me reaIIy weird vibes (ಠ ∩ಠ)
feeIs Iike a pureIy defIective SR and d0esn’t even make that much sense either

Y0u seem t0 have a rather negative read 0n Ved, s0 d0es it mean that y0u didn’t Iike his p0sts 0r is it based s0IeIy 0n the interacti0ns with me? If it’s the f0rmer, why didn’t y0u say anything ab0ut him bef0re?
And if y0u feeI that we’re a team, d0es that mean y0ure c0nfident in me/ved/AP being the s0Ive?
I d0n't reaIIy understand y0ur pr0gressi0n here

[LabRat01]

Why golden over really anyone else?

Since you put it this way, why the hell not? What does TGP have over "anyone"?

P-Edit: Because

HE VOTED ME BEFORE WAITING TO SEE IF TGP ACCEPTS OR NOT

. Are you reading?

What matters is he won't lynch his own buddy. If he thought TGP isn't worth lynching why jump the wagon, just in case TGP does accept?

In fact, Aronis' vote is scummy regardless, so I have been

kind

to call him scum

if

TGP is scum, when I should have said he is scum. Period.

Ar0nis didn’t say anything a0but his v0te 0n y0u being c0nnected t0 the dance 0ffer
And it’s n0t p0ssibIe t0 deduce if that’s the case 0r n0t im0, s0 I w0uIdnt take the v0te in any 0ther way than a reguIar SR

[LabRat01]

Right off the bat #379 and #380 are gross but I should probably start from the beginning

Why are they gr0ss?

[LabRat01]

I see no reason that anyone should be townreading him and would like anyone who is doing so to explain

Finally, I find this post to be simple "reactions" to posts in the thread rather than any sort of in-depth thought. Content for the sake of content, so to speak. I have a tendency to scumread this sort of thing, and it has a tendency to be scum-indicative in my experience.

I might make a read 0n him Iater, cuz I think his p0sts were just 0k tiII n0w

Just wanted t0 say that fr0m my experience he d0es tend t0 p0st a I0t 0f fIuff as either aIignment
If y0u want t0, y0u can skip thr0ugh his IS0 fr0m 0ur Iast t0wn game and y0u’II kn0w what I’m taIking ab0ut
Iink

I think he’s fIuffing quite a bit Iess in here, but I’m n0t even sure if I sh0uId anaIyze it in any way
It reaIIy d0esn't seem AI t0 me

[LabRat01]

I see her "working hard", and her posts are good. But there's no town motivation in them. She doesn't seem like she's trying to scumhunt - she seems like "hey, look, I'm town!" by posting a ton of content, maybe, but look at her posts. The intent of those posts is not to scumhunt. The intent of those posts is not to help town find scum, because in that bod of posts, there is a air of knowing, being informed, of whom town is. That's the vibe I'm getting.

I reaIIy d0n’t kn0w h0w t0 resp0nd t0 that
Can y0u at Ieast qu0te my p0sts? Which p0sts made y0u feeI my pushes were insincere?
And if y0u think s0me were TMI, it w0uId be w0rth qu0ting them as weII
Y0u’re basicaIIy saying that “I’m scum because I’m faking my reads and I kn0w wh0 the t0wnies are”, which is a statement 0n a n0n-pers0naI IeveI
Just eIab0rate 0n it pIease

bump

[LabRat01]

But none of this matters NOW, for the simple reason that...
AP offered to dance with me, and RIGHT NOW I hate that. So... no. I can't see the town motivation in that. That is blind sheeping. No.

Reject Dance

VOTE: AP

And what made y0u think sheeping was s0 incredibIy scum-indicative here?

Bump

[LabRat01]

To respond to vedith - I'm not sure how my vote and post was terrible outside of you chainsaw defending Lab. Clearly the second I voted lab you jumped on me and scumread it while he townread it, so i'm visualizing a possibility of a lab/ved/? scumteam - it makes sense as they did seem to spam up the thread together and vedith seems to be hard attacking me for a vote.

That p0st gives me reaIIy weird vibes (ಠ ∩ಠ)
feeIs Iike a pureIy defIective SR and d0esn’t even make that much sense either

Y0u seem t0 have a rather negative read 0n Ved, s0 d0es it mean that y0u didn’t Iike his p0sts 0r is it based s0IeIy 0n the interacti0ns with me? If it’s the f0rmer, why didn’t y0u say anything ab0ut him bef0re?
And if y0u feeI that we’re a team, d0es that mean y0ure c0nfident in me/ved/AP being the s0Ive?
I d0n't reaIIy understand y0ur pr0gressi0n here

Bump

[LabRat01]

Let’s make it clear, I have almost no experience with closed games / games with a lot of PRs and my very first reaction to the claim was to immediately believe it
I kinda facepalmed myself when I realized that it’s not necessarily the case here

Tbh I don’t know what to do
I played like, maybe 2 closed games in my life in total and I feel that my experience with dealing with claims is close to 0
Tbh I joined this game because I thought it was mountaineous, lol
So I’ll skip the talk about mechanics and just try to read you on my own
If it’s dumb, then well, uh, sorry

Anyways, I’d really like those posts answered
I didn’t really write them just to forget about it later
thx

[LabRat01]

And actually, the mafia might indeed not have a chat

End of Game Content[/u]:[/b][/size]

• Game Topics
  • Mod PT
    
    
  • Dead PT
    
    
  • Spoiled Dead PT
    
    
  • Etc.

it’s not listed in there, so either there is none, or the mod didn’t include it on purpose
(which I personally haven’t seen anone do yet, but again, I have veeeeery little experience with closed games, so idk)

lol it would be rather fun if the mafia didn't have a chat

[LabRat01]

I don't think the "slip" is that dependable though

<<< Double post deleted. >>>

[LabRat01]

uh, phone screw-up

[LabRat01]

considering i hadn't posted till now, why is that weird. when i'm trying to get the conversation elsewhere?

why did you vote TGP?

[LabRat01]

I think it's L-1 btw

so it would be cool if no one voted for the next few hours
or at least till TGP answers

[LabRat01]

And actually, the mafia might indeed not have a chat

End of Game Content[/u]:[/b][/size]

• Game Topics
  • Mod PT
    
    
  • Dead PT
    
    
  • Spoiled Dead PT
    
    
  • Etc.

it’s not listed in there, so either there is none, or the mod didn’t include it on purpose
(which I personally haven’t seen anone do yet, but again, I have veeeeery little experience with closed games, so idk)

lol it would be rather fun if the mafia didn't have a chat

It literally says etc. right under it.

Yeah, that means: all lover-chats that are created during the game + possibly a scum chat
But isn't a scum chat sth one would think of at the beginning?
Like, it's a very obvious thing to link if they're linking the other chats anyways
That's why I said I think there's either no scum chat or the mod had a purpose for not including it there
Like, wifom or sth
Idk

[LabRat01]

This is the only time I'll say something like this.

You guys are being idiotic when it comes to this scum PT discussion.

Scum have a PT. I would put almost no weight on the idea that they don't. I dare anyone to try to find the last game that scum

didn't

have a private thread. It's not a slip. It's a reasonable assumption.

If by some miracle scum

don't

end up having a PT, I would be very confident that the people who proposed that as an idea would be scum themselves—again, scum having a private thread is a reasonable assumption for literally anyone to make.

do you have any thoughts about TGP's claim?

[LabRat01]

Should I start bumping again?
You know, I'm not gonna stay here forever...

[LabRat01]

are you there?

[LabRat01]

etc. could be a way to hint at it idk. this convo isnt gonna get us anywhere until we have a flip. though its possible scum has some variant of an encryptor.
i have alot of cs experience cause i make a ton of them.

i could theory for a while but it would end up wifom if you wanna hear it....

N0, I d0n’t

[LabRat01]

I’d w0uIdn’t mind taIking ab0ut TGP th0ugh

I’m starting t0 think that he might just be fr0zen

[LabRat01]

I mean, a I0t 0f his p0sts hint at that

- 200 205 -Appeared t0 qu0te p0sts and write a catchup, but f0r s0me reas0n ended up p0sting n0thing

- 288 -Wr0te a weakish SR 0n me, whiIe n0t reaIIy expIaining anything and n0t c0mmenting 0n anything eIse

- 372 After getting rather heaviIy pushed, eIab0rated 0n his SR 0n me, but with0ut actuaIIy writing anything pers0naI 0r expIaining WHERE is the stuff he d0esn’t Iike;
As I said bef0re, it feIt m0re Iike he was trying t0 adjust my p0sts t0 fit s0me 0f the typicaI scum behavi0rs rather than anaIyzing the p0sts and then deducing that s0me aspects 0f them match with what he c0nsiders scummy

I mean, I guess the read c0uId have been shitty because he didn’t have time t0 write a better 0ne 0r sth, but Iike, if s0, why isn’t he resp0nding t0 any questi0ns ab0ut it rn? stiII d0esn’t have time?
Iike, h0w I0ng am I actuaIIy supp0sed t0 trust it if he d0esn't even seem t0 want t0 ackn0wIedge their existence

-378 defIected when faced with a SR

Btw I find his “scumteam” read 0n Ved kinda funny

Spoiler:

LabRat to me is looking like she's playing with antitown motivation. As scum, the point in this game is to lynch any townie - it doesn't matter who. I see her "working hard", and her posts are good. But there's no town motivation in them. She doesn't seem like she's trying to scumhunt - she seems like "hey, look, I'm town!" by posting a ton of content, maybe, but look at her posts. The intent of those posts is not to scumhunt. The intent of those posts is not to help town find scum, because in that bod of posts, there is a air of knowing, being informed, of whom town is. That's the vibe I'm getting.

But none of this matters NOW, for the simple reason that...
AP offered to dance with me, and RIGHT NOW I hate that. So... no. I can't see the town motivation in that. That is blind sheeping. No.

Reject Dance

VOTE: AP

me.

I am really sorry for this - I didn't realize that I could just ignore the dance offer w/o forcing a duel.

I didn't think you were scum, necessarily, I thought that dance ws scummy,

but not AI enough to bet the life of a powerful town role AS WELL AS another townie on it, ESPECIALLY since I believed that if we were lovers, we wouldn't be lynched, and people would care less about my claim if I was was close to lynch.

^ this impIies that he th0ught 0f his read 0n AP as 0f a weak 0ne
And the read 0n me was apparentIy weaker, cuz he v0ted AP instead 0f me immediateIy after making his case 0n me

To respond to vedith - I'm not sure how my vote and post was terrible outside of you chainsaw defending Lab. Clearly the second I voted lab you jumped on me and scumread it while he townread it, so i'm visualizing a possibility of a lab/ved/? scumteam - it makes sense as they did seem to spam up the thread together and vedith seems to be hard attacking me for a vote.

g0ing back t0 his resp0nse t0 Ved’s read

1- TGP didn’t seem t0 have any s0rt 0f negative, individuaI read 0n Ved bef0re
2- Ved was easiIy 0ne 0f the t0p p0sters and if taken the time t0 read his p0sts, I think it’s rather difficuIt t0 read his pr0gressi0n as scum-m0tivated
3- the read 0n me was appearentIy very weak

S0 TGP pairing me up with Ved because 0f the SR, with0ut actuaIIy c0nfr0nting Ved f0r “his 0pini0ns being bad/scummy” feeIs Iike a reaIIy p00r defIecti0n and a run-away tactic fr0m adressing the SR


Iater 0n pe0pIe, incIuding me, asked him muItipIe times t0 eIab0rate 0n his reads 0n:
-AP,
-me
-and 0n every0ne eIse wh0 “might have caught his eye when he was reading the thread”,
but the 0nIy thing I saw in his p0sts IateIy was taIking ab0ut his r0Ie and ab0ut n0t Iynching him because 0f it

I mean, sure he did expIain why he “mistakenly” rejected the dance and said that the read 0n AP wasn’t str0ng en0ugh, but he didn’t actuaIIy b0ther g0ing int0 detaiIs

He might have n0t wanted t0, but muItipIe pe0pIe, incIuding th0se wh0 SR him, asked him ab0ut it and even th0ugh he appears t0 n0t want t0 get Iynched, he didn’t even ackn0wIedge the questi0ns existing

IateIy he p0sted again and I was expecting him t0 say sth ab0ut his pr0gressi0n 0r try t0 make s0me reads 0r sth, but he just p0sted ab0ut his r0Ie again and disappeared

I d0n’t Iike that
I just reaIIy d0n’t Iike that

I d0n’t kn0w if he just d0esn’t have time 0r is just awfuIIy fr0zen, but n0ne 0f his previ0us p0sts make me feeI Iike he’s actuaIIy trying t0 heIp
and waiting f0r him t0 resp0nd, with0ut actuaIIy kn0wing if it's even w0rth it just reaIIy frustrates me 0ut

[LabRat01]

Annnd I'm back; apologies for the absence!

weIc0me back \o/

[LabRat01]

This is the only time I'll say something like this.

You guys are being idiotic when it comes to this scum PT discussion.

Scum have a PT. I would put almost no weight on the idea that they don't. I dare anyone to try to find the last game that scum

didn't

have a private thread. It's not a slip. It's a reasonable assumption.

If by some miracle scum

don't

end up having a PT, I would be very confident that the people who proposed that as an idea would be scum themselves—again, scum having a private thread is a reasonable assumption for literally anyone to make.

do you have any thoughts about TGP's claim?

bump

[LabRat01]

any0ne there? ):

[LabRat01]

redtea Jan 30, 08:37pm Feb 03, 07:08am 0 days 18 hours

[*]I will "poke" any player on request.

@Mastina, couId you poke Red, pIease?

[LabRat01]

@Mastina, couId you poke Red, pIease?

<<< Did a bit more than that. redtea didn't post game content last post; I'd be within my rights to replace redtea, but I opted for a warning. As another reminder: post game content, or eat a prod; post game content, or after the prod, be replaced. Simply posting "I'm here" won't do, as my rules are fairly clear about prod dodging not resetting the prod meter. >>>

(´∀｀)♡

[LabRat01]

I'm going abroad for 4 days so this is gonna be bad xd
In the train rn so the connection is crap already
Idk if I'll be able to do anything at all today, but I'll try my best. I prob should just replace out, but I just really want to try to retain my slot, cuz I want to play and I'll be absolutely free for a whole week after that
i mean, it would be such a shame...

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Anyways, I can't dislike Slaxx's efforts near EoD, especially the part about SRing everyone who could have been lurking. That amount of care would be kinda ridiculous if coming from scum imo
Besides, it iiis kinda cheap, but slaxx seems like a rather strong player, so if they're town, they should get killed relatively quickly...
And that makes me feel rather ok with not worrying about the TR too much
Dirty, but should work just fine

AP is most prob town. His dance offer was townie, the tone was brilliant and his conspiracy theory about TGP being scum with Ac-sth would be just silly if coming from scum. Tbh I could prob make a better read on him, but my connection is crap rn and the ISO doesn't want to open xd
So I'll prob just leave it for later

Actually, same with eragon, he's a rather solid TR for me, but he has that "reactive/spontaneous" playstyle, so it's really hard to explain it without actually quoting all of his posts...

Moment's content is just solid... there aren't many posts which make me strongly feel town for them, but they don't seem to be focused on anything in particular and seem to just comment/analyze whatever catches their eye. I don't think it's a particularly strong town-tell and tbh that read isn't all that strong either, but I really can't deny that their posts are just simply good

As for the weaker reads, I liked the tone in MCqueen's posts. His idea to get a neighbour chat with slaxx was dumb, but would prob make more sense if it was coming from a townie.
The idea itself would be rather "original" for scum to have btw.
Like, it kinda makes me think that mcqueen could be scum only if all of his teammates were among the inactives. (Cuz otherwise thinking that up would require way more "out of the box" thinking)
I mean, if he's scum and the scum-chat was active, why would he even think of wanting the chat in the first place?
(That's actually a legit question. I'm really considering basing the read on it, cuz the more I think of it, the more sense it seems to make...
I'd really want to hear some opinons on that though)


That ^ would be my town-zone
The reads may be a bit weak, but as for PoE, I think they'll do just fine fn

And I know I TR most of the players who were active, but the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe that the town might have just rolled really well
It's not necessarily the case, so I guess there is a chance of scum being among my weaker TRs, but I really doubt there's more than 1

I don't think I'll be able to "solve the game" by getting SRs btw.
I do have some strongish TRs, but it doesn't seem to work the other way around

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The ISOs aren't loading properly, so I'll ommit most of the players
Tbh I don't have a good read on any of the players outside the town-zone, so I don't have strong preferences as for whom to lynch
I mean, I do kind of? But not as much as I'd like to

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I can't read duck. I remember liking some of his early posts, but then again, it wasn't anything strong.
And tbh as for a 3-headed hydra, they don't post a lot, though I'm not sure if it's AI :/
Overall, not a great fan, but I can't really bring myself to SR them for anything either

I think gamma's vote was disgusting. Their posts made me feel that they didn't care about whom they vote at all and it didn't even seem that they've read the thread before doing it, which feels just awful
Either a deadweight, apathetic (for some reason????????? And since the start of te game???) townie, or just simply scum.
Yeah, it's a pathetic and really basic SR, but I don't give a fuck
They should either get replaced or lynched imo

I wouldn't mind someone dancing with them, preferably someone from outside of my town-zone

VOTE: gamma

and @mod, V/La for 4 days

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P.edit
This is fine as well
VOTE: aronis

Them dancing together would be a beautiful sight to behold
I really, really wouldn't mind it happening

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And sorry if the post isn't readable, I'm trying to hurry up, cuz the connection is getting weaker and weaker ):

[LabRat01]

Ewpop

Worse and worse?


And I really wouldn't like to see slax dancing with mcqueen
Obvious reasons

[LabRat01]

Yeah, sorry xd
It's koki

Idk why I remembered them as gamma

[LabRat01]

Prob last post before crossing the border

@mod, sure xd

Eeevee wanna dance?

uh sure idm friend. should you or i start?

Tbh I'm not a fan of that reaction
You agreed rather quickly, aren't you afraid it'll only get both of you killed? You don't seem like the type who'd actually benefit a lot from having a chat
Or does it mean you have a scumlean on eragon?


@Kokichi, what do you think of dancing with either aronis or redtea? Do you have any sort of read on them?
And if you've read the thread, vote where you want to lynch please

[LabRat01]

Well, writing that post took me around 2 hours, so sorry if it's already outdated
Don't have so much time left, so I'm not gonna edit it and I'll just post it as it is
I apologize if I've yelled at anyone unfairly or if some of the questions have already been answered (tbh I already see some if them that have)
And sorry if I was rude to anyone or sth, idek what I expected when coming back here and seeing the posts that poped up later, I might have been a bit unfair after all

[LabRat01]

That was a really easy way to bring my mood down
Fck, how much time did it take to read te thread? 5 minutes? 10, maybe?
I have to actually pay to read this rn, so don't fcking make me regret showing up today
I really came back with a positive attitude, but this is just a freaking mess
Does no one care about this game anymore? Like, no one? 2 days have passed and tbh other than duck, no one seems to even try to get anything done
Does no one care about deadline or are people just unaware that it's gonna happen
Or maybe you're just lying about pretending to be unaware, cuz why the fuck would anyone care about people scumclaiming openly

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Duck is trying to help without being picky
Eragon doesn't do a lot, but his questioning did get some pressure going
Evee is just reacting to everything around them. Most prob as always

Kokichi seems apathetic
AP is openly flaking and seems to be waiting for people to make the first move

Mcqueen is not here, but was rather active on the site in general
Redtea is not here, didn't write anything anywhere else, but seemed to have been online anyways because the "last-logged-in" and the "last-post" time stamps don't match. They seem to have been online around 3 hours ago

Slaxx is waiting. Writes "progressive" stuff, but doesn't get any pressure going and besides a post from 2? days ago, isn't trying to

Moment seems to be trying to progress the game, but writes about side-stuff and doesn't actually try to vote or create any sort of discussion. They're either somehow unaware about the deadline or just stalling
Aronis seems to be "progressing the game", but in a way that's really likely to make it stagnate even more

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The list is based on how town/scum motivated the recent posts are imo
It isn't a read list and isn't influenced by my reads, so don't treat it as so

First off, I really can't seem to SR eragon even though I've been trying to get tinfoily about his alignment for quite a while, so I'm not gonna push an Evee lynch today and I'm prob gonna avoid writing about them if possible
The stuff about "accepting the dance" does bother me, but derailing the thread even more in this game would be just asking for a town loss and I don't mind waiting a day more to get the answer
I'm not gonna answer the questions either
still love ya though

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The 1-st group on the list is off-limits for today
I don't care if you SR them and I don't care if you want to pressure them or anything, THEY'RE NOT GETTING LYNCHED SO GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE

The game is extremely chaotic rn and there's absolutely no doubt that the scums would want to use that, so if you're town and you really care, just grit your teeth and focus SOLELY on the shitters. The rest can wait
Thank you

[LabRat01]

Second off, I really want to lynch aronis
That answer and the vote were both absolutely disgusting
If he doesn't want to pair up and get his SR lynched, then I don't fcking care, let's lynch him alone

Not "caring" to get a SR lynched just because "they won't be playing anymore" is just a shitty excuse to refuse the dance and live a bit longer
And the alternative lynch they provided felt like this every-day shitty read you can pull out anytime

The post is ballsy, so I'll give them that, but it gives me the feeling that they think the gamestate is too shitty to get them lynched and they can get away with whatever they want to, which is so incredibly disgusting

Tbh rn I don't even care if they're town, this is a team game so they should fcking play it as one or just die

Besides, if you think that AP won't get lynched, then find someone else
Even if he's scum, he can't be the only one
Why do you think everyone would suddenly start sheeping you 24h before deadline?
And why is his flaking weirder to you than anyone else's?
Tbh to me it seems like you're focusing solely on him for some reason, which feels bad and which I'd be really glad if you proved wrong.

[LabRat01]

I don't like how Moment agreed to "evee's quick acceptal" being bad and then just disappeared without care
I agree that it may be worth talking about evee, but unless you want to lynch eragon, that pair is not getting lynched today
And even if you wanted to lynch them, THERE'S NO FCKING TIME LEFT, you do see that, right?
You don't actually have any decent reads you want to push today, do you? Do you think today is gonna end up being any better than yesterday?
Haha
Or maybe you're just gonna forget about the thread later? :D i mean, it's relatively safe to do and everyone is slacking anyways, so it's true that stalling might be the right option here...

You see what I'm trying to say here, don't you? I'm sorry if I expect too much and I understand that not everyone plays in the same way, but you didn't seem so eager to push the lynch immediately and seemed to want to make sure that you make a "quality push" before making sure that ANY decent discussion/lynch happens today

And I think doing that would be such a perfect scum strategy in this gamestate

So if you understand what I mean, please quit it

[LabRat01]

Btw, kokichi's apathy makes me think that they don't feel anything worthy is happening rn
That prob makes them less likely in a team with Aronis

Just wanted to note that for later

Didn't mean to take so long.
Now that he's around again:
Aronis, why are you so set on AP, while most everyone else see him as neutral at worst?
And why not just ISO the two dance partners proposed to you? Me and Kokichi have unfortunately posted very little so far. It would take you less than ten minutes.

What I was going to say before is Aronis hasn't posts enough for me to seriously consider dancing with him for any reason. Currently, I think it seems weird to be so bluntly uninterested. Scum would probably at least try a little.

This is a really careful and avoidant stance, it almost feels as if you're hestiant to post your opinion, lol

Some reads would be great, if you don't think aronis is scum, then who is? And why do you think aronis is lazy town rather than lazy scum? And if you were to get lynched, who would you dance with?
This is a serious question btw, I personally don't didn't really like your posts and this one isn't giving me good vibes either.

[LabRat01]

If you have someone you would like me to vote or look at, I'm more than happy to do so, otherwise I'm going to stick with AP because that's my strongest scumread.

In terms of dancing, two issues:
1. Frankly I don't see why I need to dance with anyone right now
2. I really don't see why I specifically need to dance with you/Kokichi right now. Especially when both of you have expressed a desire to not dance at all or specifically not dance with me. I don't see what trying to force a dance or causing another gladiator fight would accomplish at this point in the game.

I'm willing to dance if there is substantial reasoning provided, but in order for that to happen I need specific reasoning as to why I should be dancing right now, reasoning that suggests a dance proposition won't end up in a gladiator fight (because I see that as detrimental to the town, especially if I'm involved), and specific links as to why you/kokichi are a good dance partner. But honestly, nobody right now seems remotely capable of making a coherent argument for why I should be dancing other than threatening to kill me for not dancing, so I'm content as is.

Let's forget about Koku or red, you do agree that if you were to die, taking a SR down with you would be better than dying alone, right? This should be especially true in this game where half of the players will be really hard to read
And if you agree, and if you were to be lynched without any big chances for survival, would you be willing to pick a SR or a SR of your TR and die with them? If yes, who would it be?

[LabRat01]

I’m driving rn so don’t hvae much time hopefully I’ll be around later tonight

Frankly I think there’s at minimum one and maximum 2 scum in (aronis/redtea/kokichi)

^^^

Because you parked your vote on AP after acknowledging no one would want to and haven’t really tried to engage anyone to join your cause or solve for anyone else’s alignment.

Ergo, you either need to start solving or you and red/Koki need to go.

Aronis voting AP and not acknowledging the only other active vote is probably telling upon him being red.

^

To me, both Aronis and Kokichi are

ignoring

any chance they've been given to cooperate with the rest of us, and while redtea posts little' she -at least- is willing to cooperate as is shown in this precise quote:

And why not just ISO the two dance partners proposed to you? Me and Kokichi have unfortunately posted very little so far. It would take you less than ten minutes.

I don't care if Aronis offers someone to dance, get offered a dance which he accepts, or stays "single". I'm going to lynch this one and Kokichi next regardless (we still CAN lynch single slots as long as no "Dance Off" has been initiated).

My vote stays (and if I was on a Black Jack table I'd be doubling down already)

Can you comment on my "read?" on red?
Or just on their 2-nd last post please

[LabRat01]

I'm absolutely fine with lynching either aronis or red today and I'll make sure that I'm here before EoD, so I'll make my last vote then
Don't screw this up town

[LabRat01]

Oh wait, I just realized that the days are 4 days instead of 3........ lol xd

[LabRat01]

I don't have a lot of time, so I won't write in detail, but Red's read on eragon is really underthought and I'm really not buying Aronis's sudden mood change. He seemed to have his own thoughts on the dance mechanics, so I'm assuming he was interested in the subject
And he seemed "not to care" about the game in his AtE post, so him saying rn that he "doesn't understand anything" and just giving up makes the previous AtE post feel fake.

Btw, a lot of people seem to be SRing mcqueen, so an elaboration would be great



This should be the current VC

Aronis - 3 (AP, LabRat01, mcqueen)
Redtea - 2 (Darkwing Duck, Slaxx)
Mcqueen- 1 (Moment)

Not Voting - 6 (Kokichi Oma, EeveeLution Army, redtea, Eragon)

I'm happy with how it is rn, but let's see how it goes
Still willing to switch to red
And again, A DANCE WOULD BE GREAT

Who are the pairs currently

Slaxx&mcqueen
Eragon&evee
vote&please
Either on aronis or red preferably

[LabRat01]

I'm not against a deadline extention btw. I feel that there's a really big chance at least 1 of then current wagons is a wagon on scum, so even if it causes everyone's WiM to decrease, getting a bit more time might make VCA a bit easier later

[LabRat01]

This is an official request btw
@mod

[LabRat01]

I think both Aronis and redtea are low-posting, low-hanging fruit but I don't think there are many actual valid reasons to scumread them.

For redtea especially, "I don't townread this person" isn't really a reason to scumread someone in a blitz game when they're among the lowest posters. That's just a logical consequence.

I don't think there are really valid reasons to scumread her, and I think 722 is fairly town-indicative.

ok i see the whys

so you are saying there is no real valid reason to scumread them,

whats a reason to townread them? like, if you think they arent scum because there is no reason to scumread them, why do you think they are town if theres they are just low-posting low hanging fruit

^^^
Tbh i wanted to ask about it as well, but I lost the post and was busy so I just went away xd

And @moment, why do you think mcqueen is not "low hanging fruit"? Elaborate on your read on him please
Why him over aronis
And elaborate on the TR on red. I really don't see how any of their posts are town indicative. Sure they did post reads, but they made it p clear that they did it only because slaxx asked them for it

And the reads weren't any good either. I don't like that they didn't write anything about the current lynch options
Like, I think people talked about koki/aronis/mcqueen quite a bit and assuming red is town, they are the most reasonable lynch candidates to pick from today
I think considering the general inactivity and lack of game progression, looking for scum among them is rather reasonable
And red doesn't really seem to be that interested in determining their alignment

I mean, sure they do have reads on the other players, but it it's absolutely meaningless if they're so passive about the actual lynch

And it's not like they tried to push any of their reads either
Their whole read progression seems forced and they don't seem to be interested in doing anything unless they're forced to do it


While I'm on it, I didn't like 701 either

Didn't mean to take so long.
Now that he's around again:
Aronis, why are you so set on AP, while most everyone else see him as neutral at worst?
And why not just ISO the two dance partners proposed to you? Me and Kokichi have unfortunately posted very little so far. It would take you less than ten minutes.

What I was going to say before is Aronis hasn't posts enough for me to seriously consider dancing with him for any reason. Currently, I think it seems weird to be so bluntly uninterested. Scum would probably at least try a little.

It was a reaction/"questioning" post right after people started heavily SRing Aronis for his AtE post
And oh god, does it feel like SvS

I don't like it individually either
I mean, c'mon if they don't think Aronis's AtE is scummy, do they think that those who SR him are bad? Or like, if not aronis, THEN WHO? Any vibes, reads, anything??? A lot has happened, yet the only thing they react to is "that"

Their reaction and read progression in general is lacking as for a townie imo
The post makes me feel as if they're having serious trouble getting SRs and pushing people, which really points to them being scum imo
Their read on aronis is disgustingly wishy-washy and I can't say anything good about their other reads either

The fact that they're focusing mainly on players who won't get lynched, isn't helping either

Tbh I liked their idea to dance with moment, but that's it
And I don't think it's enough to change my read on them.

Lol, I didn't intend to write that much
It's prob unreadable, cuz I'm not really tempted to edit that on the phone, so sorry for that
but anyways, comment on it please

[LabRat01]

@786 not when the pairs are town

Actually, not even if 1 is town and isn't scummy
It's better to just wait

Double lynching is better only if both lynches are beneficial

and tbh I'm not a fan of moment's unconditional "sheeping?" either
Idk how to call it
But I'm not sure if it's scummy or just simply stupid :/

[LabRat01]

Do we have enough votes for a Koki flash lynch?

I'm not gonna switch if you're asking about it

[LabRat01]

And elaborate on koki please
Why them rather than any of the other wagons?

[LabRat01]

VOTE: extend day
~should just need one more vote to do that now

Vote

[LabRat01]

And elaborate on koki please
Why them rather than any of the other wagons?

because me/slaxx both tinfoil a kokichi/moment team and lynching koki both clears out a lurker slot and helps see if the tinfoil is right

Why is moment only scum with koki?

[LabRat01]

K, it does make sense, I guess
Still, I don't think it makes them more likely to be scum than aronis/red. I think I got a rather decent case on them and they (red) feels like the textbook example of scum who's too frozen to SR town and interact with his teammates

And aronis's AtE is just bullshit. He's just hiding his head in the sand now because people started SRing him
Tbh I can see him doing that as either alignment if I stretch the read a bit, but I still don't think it's town indicative in any way

I didn't like moment's recent posts either, cuz they make waaaay more mistakes than I'd expect from townie-thinkng-them to make and they're somehow TRing both of the lynch candidates, which idrk what it means, so if you reaaaaally want to switch the lynch, I'd rather switch to moment than koki

Koki's town-lynch would be prob the worst thing that could happen here

P.edit: xd whoa
I disagree with the switch, but that whole conversation feels like really, really townie

[LabRat01]

30 minutes left btw

[LabRat01]

[eragon, slaxx]
[ap, duck, mcqueen]
[koki, evee, moment]
[red, aronis]

[LabRat01]

i agree kokichi flipping town will suck

but im willing to risk it because if they flip scum this game is almost solved

I'm not

[LabRat01]

Is a aronis/red/moment team possible? :(

Uh, I feel not, cuz it would be really weird for all of them to just hard-TR eachother like that with such shitty reads
But man, it would be so perfect

[LabRat01]

[eragon, slaxx]
[ap, duck, mcqueen]
[koki, evee, moment]
[red, aronis]

whats the beef on eevee?

if you have a good post explaining it thats fine to to just quote it?

Tbh I thought they were scum before, but now I'm starting to feel a bit better about them because of the way they seemed to comment on everything and everyone indiscriminately
I should have prob added a bracket below just for moment, cuz now it looks weird
Meh
Anyways, evee is null for me rn, at least until I have time to read them again

[LabRat01]

I'm a vig. I can only shoot unpaired people. I'm going to shoot Kokichi. Yes, I shot Vedith.

Scum, please kill me tonight.

Why tf did you kill vedith?

And that would mean that the scums didn't kill anyone?
Uh, or they attacked ved as well now that I think about it

And koki is an ok kill target imo

[LabRat01]

Like, i want to lynch you just because you say you shot vedith, but i tend to believe the claim

VOTE: Kokichi

Yeah, scum claiming vig is just dumb
They'd have to be using the nightkill to prove themselves and I'd be really thankful if they did that
And there's no way there is a scum vig in a setup where the town PRs are apparently very weak

[LabRat01]

Oh no! Potentially lynching

two

townies? How terrible?

You know what would be even better than potentially lynching

one

townie, though? Potentially lynching zero!

Let's vote no-lynch, everyone!

Well i see you claimed above Moment. My vote remains on Aronis.

How about red? Want to convince me?

[LabRat01]

Wtf did I quote 2 posts

[LabRat01]

Oh no! Potentially lynching

two

townies? How terrible?

You know what would be even better than potentially lynching

one

townie, though? Potentially lynching zero!

Let's vote no-lynch, everyone!

Well i see you claimed above Moment. My vote remains on Aronis.

How about red? Want to convince me?

? are you asking me to convince you?

Yes
And ask to extend the day please

[LabRat01]

3- red
2- aronis
2- koki

P sure it's correct

[LabRat01]

Stop changing votes, I'm trying to count and it's not easy with a shitty connection
Just for a moment please

[LabRat01]

unofficial vote count

Aronis - 3 (AP, mcqueen, duck)
Kokichi Oma - 2 (slaxx, eragon)
Redtea - 1 (LabRat01)
Mcqueen- 1 (Moment)


Not Voting - 4 (Kokichi Oma, EeveeLution Army, redtea, aronis)

This one should be correct

[LabRat01]

this is all LGD btw

What does LGD mean?

[LabRat01]

Stop changing votes, I'm trying to count and it's not easy with a shitty connection
Just for a moment please

i already did it

No, you didn't
I was voting red

This one is correct, checked every vote

[LabRat01]

Though speaking of slinking off I have to actually go somewhere with my father.

I’ll check in periodically but it looks like Aronis today >_>

Not a bad lynch but I don’t get the Koki townreads at all.

well we have 24 hours now, thanks to duck

I really didn't like how McQueen left right after we were begging for him to extend day, especially as he responded to a post directly after the request
but im not lynching that today cause it means lynching slaxx too

^

[LabRat01]

you never voted redtea

@labrat

Wait WTF WHERE'S MY POST, I voted right after writing the read on red, why didn't it get posted!?

[LabRat01]

Ugh, VOTE: red
Now it's correct besides the wagon on red being lower in the VC than the wagon on mcqueen

[LabRat01]

Anyways, since we have time
a lot of people seem to prefer lynching aronis rather than red, so can you elaborate?
And comment on my read on red if possible
I'm not against either of those lynches happening though tbh

[LabRat01]

Oh no! Potentially lynching

two

townies? How terrible?

You know what would be even better than potentially lynching

one

townie, though? Potentially lynching zero!

Let's vote no-lynch, everyone!

Well i see you claimed above Moment. My vote remains on Aronis.

How about red? Want to convince me?

? are you asking me to convince you?

Yes
And ask to extend the day please

Why do i need to convince u about red?? Im not on her??

You're on aronis lol
I tought that I was voting red, and it looked like you might have some sort of a read on aronis

still, elaborate on both reads please

[LabRat01]

I don't care which we do today, either can go. Mallard would be happier with red, I would be happier with Aronis. Both refusing to dance with the other is gross

:)
Do you think they could be SvS?

[LabRat01]

Anyways, since we have time
a lot of people seem to prefer lynching aronis rather than red, so can you elaborate?
And comment on my read on red if possible
I'm not against either of those lynches happening though tbh

frankly i just think that Red has at least put some effort into actually trying to solve a little.

its not great but like, if we are lynching the low posters i prefer to lynch the one that is doing nothing and has less ways to flip town than the one that is trying...albeit very slightly

Uh, I don't think it's all about being "low posters" :(
Don't you have any sort of read on them? Like, you know, sth to distinguish them from the other ones?

[LabRat01]

Anyways, since we have time
a lot of people seem to prefer lynching aronis rather than red, so can you elaborate?
And comment on my read on red if possible
I'm not against either of those lynches happening though tbh

frankly i just think that Red has at least put some effort into actually trying to solve a little.

its not great but like, if we are lynching the low posters i prefer to lynch the one that is doing nothing and has less ways to flip town than the one that is trying...albeit very slightly

Uh, I don't think it's all about being "low posters" :(
Don't you have any sort of read on them? Like, you know, sth to distinguish them from the other ones?

like i said

Red has at least tried to provide content

Aronis is just like... there... voting AP... and sort-of aggressively defending himself

True :/

I'm still 110% okay with AP dying even though i doubt anyone else wants that. he's done exactly nothing recently that makes my opinion change in the slightest and getting a town PR killed is pretty bad

VOTE: AP

especially this post ^ when you look at the fact that AP wasn't even on TGP's wagon

And true /:

I didn't think much of them though. I mean, he's apparently a shitter regardless of alignment, so I'm not sure how much do I want to read him based on them.
I didn't like his recent posts though
That AtE and the "demotivated" post later were just straight up lies

Still, idk if I want to trust that or my "regular" SR on red more

[LabRat01]

I think there's quite a chance that I'll want to lynch the other one regardless of the flip later

[LabRat01]

Ugh, why tf can't they just dance
I mean, if I'm wrong on even 1 of them, they should know what to do
It's just simply stupid not to

[LabRat01]

Like, how long can one pretend that they're not scummy and they're not gonna get lynched

There should be a point where one should just realizes that it's the best option

[LabRat01]

I mean, I think
I'm not getting lynched, so i can't know, but I think being stubborn about it isn't a good idea

[LabRat01]

what irks me is the "If im dying anyways, then why should i even care at all?"

Town wins after death and wants to do all in their power to help town

Yep
That was a scumclam
And even if it was somehow honest and he "doesn't give a crap about the game", in his next post he said that
"he doesn't understand anything and should just go back to lurking"
Which implies that he got starled becuase he actually cares about the game and about what people think of him

The posts contradict each other, you can't both "not care" and "care" about your win condition, which means that one of the posts was a lie (possibly survival-motivated AtE). And that's a rather strong scum indicator

[LabRat01]

Actually, now that I think about it, how about we lynch aronis and I dance with redtea?
Having them dance together would be best, but this might be the 2-nd best option

It does decrease the vig's ability to kill though

[LabRat01]

Just in case, @red if you offer the dance before we discuss it, I'm gonna refuse and you know that I won't be lynched
So don't do it please

[LabRat01]

Actually, now that I think about it, how about we lynch aronis and I dance with redtea?
Having them dance together would be best, but this might be the 2-nd best option

It does decrease the vig's ability to kill though

they said they'll kill kokichi though so ::shrug:

I still kinda hope that they dance with aronis though xd

[LabRat01]

@aronis could you dance with redtea?
You should be aware that you're very likely to get lynched, so what do you think of it

[LabRat01]

@mod could you poke aronis, please?

[LabRat01]

ack i hate extends so much. the people who voted extend ( wasting the only one we have all game ) better explain. especially in a really lackluster gamestate

I claim scum, I did that to decrease your wim
It worked and I feel fulfilled
Read the freaking game btw, it's not as bad as it was before

This post most prob implies that evee doesn't care about voting nor about the current lynches
That's most definitely not SvS with Aronis
Possibly also not with koki or red, but I wouldn't bet my head on it