Unstable Mafia - Game Over

[0verki11]

VOTE: Dr Worm
im a n0 cop, targeted the Worm and hes red.

[0verki11]

ez clap im giving the next poster a townread

[0verki11]

VOTE: No Lynch

My claim was serious btw

[0verki11]

VOTE: Dr Worm
im a n0 cop, targeted the Worm and hes red.

[0verki11]

I'm n0 watcher and no one visited Worm.

lmao why are you trying to defend your caught scumbuddy

[0verki11]

Why lynch Vedith after we lynch the worm this could be a perfect mafia victory.

[0verki11]

town victory I mean

[0verki11]

mobile postings a bitch lol

[0verki11]

Vedith, one lunch man fan?

vote Worm with me lol

[0verki11]

You need teacher day 3 for a perfect town win.

lol nice spew of teachers townieness its Pignash we need to kill

[0verki11]

Dont hammer yet

[0verki11]

VOTE: Dr Worm

My money is on there's no way in hell Vedith is a n0 watcher.

You believe Overkill?

I take it you don't necessarily believe Overkill's claim? If you don't think it's a legitimate claim, do you believe that he is scum or just trolling town?

im not a troll dw

[0verki11]

I take it you don't necessarily believe Overkill's claim? If you don't think it's a legitimate claim, do you believe that he is scum or just trolling town?

I think Overkill is town trying to be funny.

you voted with me wtf

[0verki11]

also I dont like that Wormy was brought up to L2 straight away.

[0verki11]

you voted with me wtf

That's because I'm inclined to believe your claim.

but you said that you thought I was town trying to be funny.

[0verki11]

UNVOTE: DrWorm
id like this out of lolhammer range if at all possibile

[0verki11]

Could someone explain what's going on?

im claiming a n0 red check on Worm and Lich is scum as well

[0verki11]

Overki11, are we good on the "lolhammer"?

should be fine, anyway
VOTE: TemporalLich
ez found scum

[0verki11]

creature and pignash are town btw

[0verki11]

HELLO how are you?? I"M DR WORM!!

EVERYBIDY LISTEN PLEASE!!

DR WORM is TOWN COACH!! I choose 1 VANILLA TROWNIE and TURN THEM INTO SUPERPERSON!!

this KILLS THE WORM!!

I have to PICK A VT or it DOENS"T WORK AT ALL and I STILL DIE!!

TELL me IF YOU ARE a VT or NOT VT so I CAN DO THIS AND DIE FOR TROWN!!

THAKNS YOU EVERYBIDY!!

fuck you this play sucks

[0verki11]

lmao im a 1 shot day cop
who wants to guess who I checked and the result.

[0verki11]

Why didnt overkill out his scan what if there is a dayvig or something

didnt get the reaction I wanted so I have no reason to reavel it.
Just lynch Lich and everything will be ok

[0verki11]

creatures actually conf town already

[0verki11]

Lich can you stop scumreading absolutely everyone and narrow it down k thx

[0verki11]

btw we arent using all 2 weeks because thats going to kill wim

[0verki11]

Creature is lock town for being town motivated as fuck+ being the first on ur wagon

[0verki11]

just lynch Lich wtf

[0verki11]

nah mate. I did him like I did you our game. I think I'll be able to read him with time. Whats your case?

Him sheeping me despite not belevivng my claim.
Him scumreading everyone
His entire iso

[0verki11]

just lynch Lich for freelo wtf

[0verki11]

0verki11 - youre playing this game at a much different meta than we had about two months ago. Want to talk about the change?

I worked out that instead of waiting until late game

[0verki11]

0verki11 - youre playing this game at a much different meta than we had about two months ago. Want to talk about the change?

I worked out that instead of waiting until late game

you dont flake D1 and being passive is dumb and bullshit.
Sorry for mobile cut me of there

[0verki11]

Dr Worm, if you want people to believe you're town, start providing information or at least ask questions instead of trying to out the VTs.

just lynch Lich for freelo wtf

You're starting to look scummy with your tunneling tbh.

I'm gonna vote overki11 if this keeps up.

give me a reason why my tunneling/being agressive is scummy here because im sure you would rather that over what ive done other games

[0verki11]

just lynch Lich for freelo wtf

yea we do need you to put in more input

the easiest way to stop this tunnel is lynching them btw

[0verki11]

how bout lynching u

well im town and Lich isnt so thats probably not a good idea

[0verki11]

On a serious note though, do you think it a good idea to out a VT role, gave Worm target it (and die), and then scum shoot the new PR? I mean, IF this role is for real them he played it in the worst possible way EVER.

MR 49 THAT"S WHY ALL VTs MUST CLAIM!! SCUM WASTES NKs TARGETTING AT VT GROUP TRYING TO GET SUPERVT!! FREES UP OTHER PRs!!

but what about all of the other PRs?

[0verki11]

On a serious note though, do you think it a good idea to out a VT role, gave Worm target it (and die), and then scum shoot the new PR? I mean, IF this role is for real them he played it in the worst possible way EVER.

MR 49 THAT"S WHY ALL VTs MUST CLAIM!! SCUM WASTES NKs TARGETTING AT VT GROUP TRYING TO GET SUPERVT!! FREES UP OTHER PRs!!

but what about all of the other PRs?

THEY DO PR STUFF THEN!! WHAT your queston EVEN??

we are outing all non VTs then?????

[0verki11]

yes and you still didnt answer my question, what is scummy about Tunneling?

[0verki11]

0verki11 - youre playing this game at a much different meta than we had about two months ago. Want to talk about the change?

This is probably Scum

he has a point though, im playing nothing like that game.

[0verki11]

yes and you still didnt answer my question, what is scummy about Tunneling?

It shows you aren't willing to actually look for scum, and instead want to cause a mislynch.

I don't know how you can still, in good faith, believe Dr Worm is town.

1. Youre logic is so flawed
2. Because hes my N0 green, also its obvious that he wouldnt be this dumb as scum.

[0verki11]

Vedith you agree that lich is scum right?

[0verki11]

Also the current lich wagon is no joke the most pure wagon ive ever seen.

[0verki11]

yes and you still didnt answer my question, what is scummy about Tunneling?

It shows you aren't willing to actually look for scum, and instead want to cause a mislynch.

I don't know how you can still, in good faith, believe Dr Worm is town.

1. Youre logic is so flawed
2. Because hes my N0 green, also its obvious that he wouldnt be this dumb as scum.

also im making mainly townhunting rather than scumhunting becuase its easier and I found scum (you) to begin with.

[0verki11]

VOTE: Dr Worm
im a n0 cop, targeted the Worm and hes red.

2. Because hes my N0 green, also its obvious that he wouldnt be this dumb as scum.

VOTE: 0verki11

Can't even keep your own "facts" straight.

holy shit ur actually trash,
Firstly ive claimed multiple times today and softed many things, its blantantly obvious I dont actually have a red check on Worm or I wouldnt be pushing you right now you I?
Secondly youve no joke gone and fucking scumread everyone in the entire game and its beginning to bug me.
Thirdly my tunneling is what
A. Got people speaking
B. Found a scum (you)
Also a sidenote im not trusting any spews he might give because he knows hes already been caught.

[0verki11]

watch him say something like "Oops sorry" to avoid thuderdoming me.

[0verki11]

Vedith you agree that lich is scum right?

There reason to why I'm reluctant to just calling Scum that I can't discuss yet.
But yes, his actions could be seen as Scum by others.

ooh spicy

[0verki11]

also to add onto this if you truely wanted to push me as town for lying about a check you would of done it a while ago when I started pushing you.

[0verki11]

anyway going to be now will reply to stuff tommorow

[0verki11]

anyway going to bed now will reply to stuff tommorow

FML mobile sucks

[0verki11]

I've reread this thread trying to look for a possible scumbuddy to DT, oh boy DT looks scummy as heck. DT seems to be tunneling Almost50 even. I hate to say this but DT is a net loss for the town. If DT flips red Creature is likely red.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

0verki11 is still a decent enough wagon, a red 0verki11 likely means a red Dr Worm and could potentially implicate a red pignash.

he backed out of the thunderdome the madman himself.

[0verki11]

Im fine with a demon lynch but im more confident in a lich lynch.
Creature is town, Teacher is town, Worm is town, RCE, DT, Teacher are probably town.
Ez time for a d1 gamesolve

[0verki11]

im kind of sad that the lich wagon didnt really set off.

[0verki11]

Almost50, overkill, Teacher, Creature would be a strong town block, lean on lich. Worm doesn't matter, no one touches Volxen today though I suspect he could be scum.

Roster, Vedith, dt are all meh slots and demon is obvscum.

I get the pocketing paranoia, but think we just analyze alike. This list near mimics mine, including on players I hadnt commented on as much (Almost). I think the day we start to read different is the day I will suspect you. On which note, the major difference in our reads is 0verki11. I dont think it is a day 1 candidate, but neither do I have it anywhere near a townblock. Want to sell me on that?

I don't think Overkill is incompetent, as a result he sorts himself out going forward. I don't want to get deeper into it than that. I think he's very capable of this play as scum but in the event he is, then he's digging a hole that will be tough to get out of later if town finds each other.

If Overkill is scum either A.) This hasn't happened yet or B.) His noose is tightening. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt since he isn't trying to disrupt townreads as of yet.

oh im quite incompentent, and if I was scum Id be tunneling town instead and get away with it because WIFOM.

[0verki11]

Don't make me make you lynchable.

thats a pain for everyone invovled and it doesnt really solve much and Lich is scum.

[0verki11]

Im fine with a demon lynch but im more confident in a lich lynch.
Creature is town, Teacher is town, Worm is town, RCE, DT, Teacher are probably town.
Ez time for a d1 gamesolve

woah im townreading Teacher twice.

[0verki11]

rosterforster town but im relucant to put them in towncore yet, want to see what the next few posts are like

[0verki11]

Volxen has slight scum equity but I will attack anyone that pushes his Lynch today. Fisticuffs.

well I mean Lich always gets lynched today so theres no reason to push Volken yet.

[0verki11]

also temporal, you are so scummy right now. you might get farther if you don't post instead of trying in a futile attempt

This comes from town.

That's not even possible.

Congrats, you're a DT associative.

Congrats you rolled scum

[0verki11]

also notice how Lich backed out of thunderdoming me

[0verki11]

it is useful.. now you have one less slot to solve yw

If you're so confident you're town then fine... I'll entertain your notion for now (read: you're still scummy and lamist AF).

VOTE: 0verki11

yet you still wont properly thunderdome me

[0verki11]

Creature clearly didn't seem to believe Overkill's claim, and I was curious if it was because he was scumreading him, or if it was because he thought he was joking around. Of course, being that this is a bastard game, another possibility is that Overkill is a cop but not necessarily a sane cop, so there's that.

Who really thinks like that? Like there is only one remotely sensible possibility.

This is a bastard game, so I think it's conceivable that Overkill could have gotten a "guilty" on someone, but he is actually an insane cop or a paranoid cop and is unaware of this fact. Not sure how you are arriving at the conclusion that there is "only one remotely sensible possibility".

because he knows how to read.

[0verki11]

???

???

???

[0verki11]

I DON"T WANT TO DIE NOW!!

dying is bad dont do it.
Anyway thunderdome me Lich do it you wont

[0verki11]

TemporalLich explain to me why you're voting 0verki11? And why did you knock back his offer to thunderdome?

Haven't read up yet but I want your perspective for context when I do.

0verki11 is obviously tunneling me, saying things like "ez found scum".

Read 171, 191, 229, 243, 266, 343, 391, and 415.

266 is me explaining my read lmao, and why is me tunneling you scummy to begin with?

[0verki11]

also when WIM dies we hammer as that will help, imo we dont need all 2 weeks

[0verki11]

0berki11 buddy focus on someone else for a little? Lich's vote on you makes it pretty obvious he's not gonna thunderdome you.

What do you think of Vedith and DT?

Nullish/in POE and Town

[0verki11]

Im fine with a demon lynch but im more confident in a lich lynch.
Creature is town, Teacher is town, Worm is town, RCE, DT, Teacher are probably town.
Ez time for a d1 gamesolve

Add Rabbi and Roster to this.

[0verki11]

you cant just call this TvT because you dont know either of our's meta

[0verki11]

hes not even tunneling me theres no pressure involved there.

[0verki11]

hes not even tunneling me theres no pressure involved there.

[0verki11]

You do realise I can tunnel you and produce perfectly fine content at the same time right?

[0verki11]

also Dr Worm coaching lmao

[0verki11]

Rabbi vole is town dont vote them

[0verki11]

He has Vedith who you townread in his POE and townreads DT who is your strongest scumread - obviously your views of the gamestate are going to be fairly different but do you buy that those reads are legit?

yeah... DT is scum and you cannot convince me otherwise.

Here's 0verki11's readlist according to the ISO.

Double Town

: teacher

Town

: Creature, Dr Worm, Rabbi Vole

Probtown

: RCEnigma, DoubtingThomas, rosterfoster
POE: Vedith

Scum

: TemporalLich

Yeah this seems somewhat survivalistic.

Can Overkill confirm this to be his current readlist?

yes and put everyone not mentioned in the PoE

[0verki11]

Rabbi vole is probs town though

[0verki11]

So you wouldn't mind voting pignash if needs be. Right?

yes but I prefer voting Lich

[0verki11]

Dr Worm this play sucks fuck you.
Also Pignash is fine if nonone wants to vote Lich

[0verki11]

ill make a casae later today when ive stopped being lazy

[0verki11]

ahhh forgot that I was playing

[0verki11]

Due to it being 9pm and I dont have much time ill give you this
Towncore: Pignash, Rabbi, Creature, Worm (my N0)
Probably town: Lich (as much as I hate to admit it) A50, DT
Scum: The rest

[0verki11]

are we giving Lich a TWTBAW pass for some reason?

[0verki11]

Want me to claim?

[0verki11]

Doctor gg ez im dead tommorow

[0verki11]

N1 Creature btw, as he was my strongest townread

[0verki11]

So, if you are not dead and teacher is dead we lynch you? Except -of course- if scum have a roleblocker then they block you and shoot him anyway. But then I get a result anyway, so maybe they're better off killing me over you two. Nice paradox for scum to solve.

im not telling you my protecting nor are we making plans for me to WIFOM of. This is the greatest WIFOM.

[0verki11]

alright i might as well full claim, (was hoping that this was a no doc setup) im town tough guy, if killed by factional kill I surive until EoD. Was trying to bait a kill on me. glgl sorry for being shit.

[0verki11]

A big part of me doesn't want to believe that there's actually doc+cop shenanigans in this setup at all because its reviewers are very competent. Either way, 3 cops + 2 docs is a joke and I'm trusting DT over 0verki11.

ive already claimed not doc

[0verki11]

Sorry 0verki11, I missed the comment.
@roster it's a slot in the game. It has to have an alignment, and I'm pretty sure it matches mine. if it doesn't flip with an alignment just lynch me tomorrow before lylo and it's an easy solve.

If it does flip town I'm basically cleared which is a massive boon for us right now.

wrong, its the other way around

[0verki11]

did you actually just hammer me?

[0verki11]

my new claim stops me from being targeted lol, and that was after I reread I made that list.

[0verki11]

also important scum me claims something wacky as people seem to belevive those claims more

[0verki11]

Teacher are you going to out your result?
Im fine with a creature lynch btw.

[0verki11]

Lich what was said over the night?

[0verki11]

I'd be pretty safe in assuming both 0verki11 and Creature are scum.

Though 0verki11 is easily the scummier of the two. As everyone has pointed out, 0verki11 is scummy AF with no semblance of being towny.

VOTE: 0verki11

I dont really like this considering youve been flip flopping on my alignment pretty much the entire game.

[0verki11]

scum DT never ccs my orginal claim there I think, Teachers town, Vedith is probably town, So is Roster.
Leaving a pool of Lich, Stefan, Creature.
After my lynch probably lynch Creature and then Stefan or Lich.

[0verki11]

oh right yea Roster is always town here.

[0verki11]

Vedith who did you mirror last night?
Also Lich can you answer my question

[0verki11]

Probably lynch Lich before Stefan because I dont know why mafia would ever know there was only 1 cit

[0verki11]

Teacher/ Roster/ DT
Vedith
______________Scum line
Stefan/ Lich
Creature

[0verki11]

Vedith is conftown by investigation. He mirrored roster last night. If you would read the game you wouldn’t be the target.

alright then, Lich still hasnt answered my question because Medium isnt exactly the hardest role to fake.

[0verki11]

VOTE: Creature

[0verki11]

gg I was town