Unstable Mafia - Game Over

[Rabbi Vole]

Hold on I'm waiting for the signal

[Rabbi Vole]

Hi Vedith.

What should I know before I read up?

[Rabbi Vole]

That is pretty useful to know. Thanks.

[Rabbi Vole]

TemporalLich explain to me why you're voting 0verki11? And why did you knock back his offer to thunderdome?

Haven't read up yet but I want your perspective for context when I do.

[Rabbi Vole]

Teach probably Scum

???

Ignore Vedith he's a wolf

[Rabbi Vole]

unlucky boy podoboy

???

[Rabbi Vole]

Teach probably Scum

???

Ignore Vedith he's a wolf

They're both part of my townlist though.

my mistake, what's got you townreading them both?
Give me things to look out for

[Rabbi Vole]

Vedith, call it a soulread. I'll have your alignment worked out by the time I catch up.

[Rabbi Vole]

TemporalLich explain to me why you're voting 0verki11? And why did you knock back his offer to thunderdome?

Haven't read up yet but I want your perspective for context when I do.

0verki11 is obviously tunneling me, saying things like "ez found scum".

Read 171, 191, 229, 243, 266, 343, 391, and 415.

Which of these posts do you think are scum indicative? Do you think his clumsy tunnel comes from scum rather than town?

[Rabbi Vole]

Which 5? Do you think you could tier a full read list out of interest?

[Rabbi Vole]

[Rabbi Vole]

I love rainbows! Colour unnecessary, I'd just like to see who's on top of who. I think I have a rough idea from your last few posts though.

I'm probably retracting my soulread a little.

[Rabbi Vole]

Me too

[Rabbi Vole]

I want to talk to Lich a little more

[Rabbi Vole]

Never mind you're probably actually town

[Rabbi Vole]

It hasn't struck me as particularly interesting yet no
please go ahead and share though

[Rabbi Vole]

Okay no colour.

RCE
Overkill
Worm
TL
Almost
Volxen
DT
Creature
Rooster
You
Pignash
Teacher

This kind of well weighted read list is harder to fake d1
Teacher isn't lhf and I've seen nothing from pignash so far at all.

I don't know why you're pushing me yet so that's whatever

There's another thing in here I think is towny which I'll talk about after I've talked to Lich more

[Rabbi Vole]

for clarity: teacher is never lhf

[Rabbi Vole]

Why would that concern me?

pedit: low hanging fruit

[Rabbi Vole]

So talk to me for a moment under the assumption I'm an adult with an IQ higher than about 5.

Why would I before I'd read the thread have this magical concern with your motivations for voting me when you're the first vote on the wagon? and what do you expect me to divine about you voting me under the impression that I thought you were scum from your first few posts?

I hadn't taken more than a cursory glance at the vote count and hadn't processed where anyone's votes were because I'm not particularly interested in my wagon without thread context. I'm a lot more interested in working out what other slots are doing with each other.

So circling back, what exactly do you think I should be concerned about and why do you think it's worrying that I'm not concerned?

[Rabbi Vole]

Let's resolve this nonsensical tangent on page 19 btw

[Rabbi Vole]

I'm Rabbi Vole.
I'm interested in things.
But I'm not interested in that.

[Rabbi Vole]

We are very different people. Do you think I scumread you to try and get a mislynch on you then changed my mind when like 3 people had posted because nobody agreed with me? You think that is more likely than me seeing more than 3 of your posts and thinking "huh maybe this isn't a wolf"?

The only part of my first posts that is fake is the exaggeration (I presented it rhetorically to try and get a reaction out of Creature - if you know his meta is obvious as fuck why I did this)

I still don't have a particularly strong read on you but my first impression was, ew. I like the fact you're engaged/mobile posting and I like the way you had fully weighted read list which you could present so easily.

What...exactly do you think my play is here?
Would you like me to talk you through my thought process more?
I think we're pretty different people but thanks for levelling with me so quickly.

[Rabbi Vole]

That's understandable, I get vexed when people are approaching the game from a very different angle as well. It might be easier if I just go produce content for a bit and we can resume later if you're struggling to sort me. (if I don't get a decent read on you with what you've offered on the last few pages I'll definitely be back to badger you)

[Rabbi Vole]

You'd better not want to die!! I joined this game to play with you!

[Rabbi Vole]

0berki11 buddy focus on someone else for a little? Lich's vote on you makes it pretty obvious he's not gonna thunderdome you.

What do you think of Vedith and DT?

[Rabbi Vole]

Agreed if gamestate shits itself we end the phase. Til then we slay. Deadlines are for nerds.

[Rabbi Vole]

Who resisted my wagon Mr Monkey? Do any motivations stick out to you as worse than others?

[Rabbi Vole]

my gut says it's TvT as well man

[Rabbi Vole]

Definitely post a readlist, or at least your scumreads and strong townreads please. I want to hear more about what you found towny from 0verki11 since your vote as well.

[Rabbi Vole]

Bout time someone noticed

[Rabbi Vole]

That's fair, I was kinda surprised this was a townslot

[Rabbi Vole]

Yeah TL vs OK is clearly fruitless. There is a chance that Rabbi Vole gets green checked by a successful Dr Worm coaching, but for now Vole is a wagon worth wagoning. I agree it's probably TvT, Overkill actually is towning it up for once.

VOTE: Rabbi Vole

May post a readlist soon.

TemporalLich talk to me

At what point did you realise 0verki11 was town and not evil scum pushing your mislynch? Quote from his ISO and show me where he towns it up in your opinion?

Also what made you vote me here?

[Rabbi Vole]

In a less thinly-veiled way, since I think you will respond to candidness: show me that you aren't just pushing what you see as the most lynchable player and hoping something sticks. I thought your 0verki11 push looked somewhat genuine, but the way you jumped off him there gave me whiplash. If you're both town I obviously don't want you at each others' throats. But show me what you saw in that moment?

You also changed your vote to me, who for all intents and purposes you townread. Did you switch to me because I'm the biggest wagon or what?

[Rabbi Vole]

I don't see myself voting pignash sorry. I'm sure he'll be productive once his v/la ends.

[Rabbi Vole]

He has Vedith who you townread in his POE and townreads DT who is your strongest scumread - obviously your views of the gamestate are going to be fairly different but do you buy that those reads are legit?

[Rabbi Vole]

Lichy sell me on DT as scum?
If you could vig 0verki11 right now would you do it? I'm kinda craving some decisiveness in your read on him.

[Rabbi Vole]

Still need to set a couple of hours aside and crunch through this game. But for now, I once again play the solo
VOTE: rosterfoster

[Rabbi Vole]

A50 is town by the way. I've fucked up reading him like 80 times in a row but I feel good about this one.

[Rabbi Vole]

Which of those posts do you think actually probably come from scum? Allowing it's scum's job to get mislynched and not get lynched vs. town's job is to expose and lynch scum - what's he actually doing to push a scum wincon? I get that DT's playstyle is a little unconventional by MafiaScum standards but I'm not sure I get what makes you think he's advancing a mafia aligned win condition? I feel like you just don't like him

I'm still pretty null on DT. I'm a bit surprised you have such an intense read on him

[Rabbi Vole]

{Rabbi}
{Dr Worm}
{A50, 0verki11, RCE}
{Vedith, TL}
{rosterfoster, teacher, Creature, DT, volxen, pignash}
RCE I'll reevaluate but seems consensus town and he's a fairly easy read

Dr Worm town by roleclaim/self resolution ()
TL I'll have a better read on soon
pignash wagon needs to do something else

In the bottom bracket I'm pretty good at reading teacher, Creature and volxen

Still haven't read first ~9 pages

[Rabbi Vole]

make that first 16 pages

[Rabbi Vole]

I was kind of hoping to push him into a more... poignant response...? So I failed in that endeavour. I guess his response is roughly what I expected. I'm just not quite done probing his mind yet.

[Rabbi Vole]

Lich why didn't you respond to my last post?

[Rabbi Vole]

Literally none of those posts are wolfy imo. Talk me through the scum thought process you're seeing there? What's he doing to achieve his wincon (mislynching townies and stopping us from lynching him and his buddies)?

[Rabbi Vole]

Yo wagoning vla town is a lot worse than wagoning active lurkers. Need more votes on rosterfoster and less on pignash who is obviously not going to do anything whether he's wagoned or not.

pedit: yo RCE

[Rabbi Vole]

help me get into this game? perhaps I in turn can help you get back in the swing

[Rabbi Vole]

which slots are you feeling the games revolving around and you're not super engaged with/interested in?

[Rabbi Vole]

How would you feel about joining me on rosterfoster, Mr. Enigma?

[Rabbi Vole]

People.... that's never a scum slip....

I'm low on time and ridiculously still have votes on me. Dr Worm also needs an answer so. I'm not a VT and I have information that makes pignash very likely to be town aligned.

I also won't be answering questions which are useless or alt hunting at the cost of playing the game. Just so that's clear.

[Rabbi Vole]

Scum do weighted readslists just as much as town, so I'm not seeing why that in and of itself would lead you to a townlean or townread on Vedith on the basis that it would be "hard to fake", especially since his weighted readslist does not include any reasoning behind any of the reads. And other people have given weighted readslists as well, but you only called out Vedith's as being "hard to fake". Why?

Firstly: back up your assertion that scum will do a fully weighted readlist 48 hours into day one as often as town will. That's the kind of attitude that comes from town more than scum, and it's inconsistent with the type of wolfplay I originally thought Vedith was playing at.

Fully weighted read lists take effort to fake unless you throw random names out and from a cursory glance at Vedith's ISO I don't think he's had a sloppy trajectory at all.

So.... yes I think this is the kind of thing which is slightly more likely to come from town, and I also think it's somewhat difficult to fake on the fly.

For the record I haven't seen any other weighted read lists yet save Vedith's and my own. Any recommended reading?

Also want to call that I was pretty transparent about the fact my GUT SCUM READ WAS BAD more so than I townread him. Why did you feel the need to present my comments in a way that makes it sound like I'm townreading Vedith too heavily? First impression to me it doesn't look like you read the rest of my posts.

[Rabbi Vole]

And that information is?

If I flip you'll find out.
If I'm around later in the game I'm not committed to explaining + explaining why I'm not revealing everything d1.

Why did you vote me there?

[Rabbi Vole]

Why Rosterfoster specifically?

ISO is whatever and I'm null on him. Should I not be voting him? Sell me on why not.
Why did you unvote Dr Worm after this post?

[Rabbi Vole]

You guys are aggressively bad at taking the hint. Pignash and I are effectively masons. I haven't seen his role pm but there is information in my role pm which indicates he is aligned with the town.

You all need to vote somewhere else.

There's another part of this which I'm not in a position to talk about and that's what will present itself in my flip. This part is directly antitown for me to talk about as certain parts of it can contribute to scum gaining an upper hand very quickly.

[Rabbi Vole]

I think Roster was a lowhanging fruit that's fringe town independent of Pigs alignment and pushing him given the content already available is lazy at best.

Show me what content of his you believe is alignment indicative enough that I should not be pushing him? Why do you think he's low hanging fruit?

Legit sell me on this bro. I wagon nullreads for a PoE playstyle so if you think he's readable at this point please hmu. There's too many people here who are kinda floating through the game so wagoning people who are active and contributing seems counterintuitive.

[Rabbi Vole]

Official Vote Count 1.16

Lynching

With 13 players, it takes 7 to lynch.

TemporalLich

(3): 0verki11, rosterfoster, DoubtingThomas

pignash

(3): Vedith, Almost50, teacher

rosterfoster

(2): Rabbi Vole, Creature

Dr Worm

(1): volxen

DoubtingThomas

(1): TemporalLich

Rabbi Vole

(1): RCEnigma

Nobody

(2): pignash, Dr Worm

Deadline

: (expired on 2019-03-15 20:15:00)

V/LA

: pignash

Volc unvoted
Teacher + A50 on roster

[Rabbi Vole]

VOTE: volxen I'm glad you're wary of that. It was starting to make me quite ponderous.

[Rabbi Vole]

How can you read TL's posts and not think he's scum? Also TL, how can you be confident about lynching DT but say he's starting to arc townie?

That's not a thing man. How do you look at his ISO and think "ah look at this scumfuck pushing a scum win condition"?

Humour me, case TL as scum?

[Rabbi Vole]

Vedith we're effectively masons.

[Rabbi Vole]

95% sure my role means he's necessarily town outside of 5% extreme bastardy.

I'll need to double check something setup related. Give me a couple of minutes.

[Rabbi Vole]

Look podoboq advertised this game as open to bastard mechanics including moderator lies but given the reviewers involved and the way my role is worded, pignash necessarily has to be town.

[Rabbi Vole]

...and I don't intend to.

[Rabbi Vole]

Anyone wanna claim the L-1 vote?
VOTE: rosterfoster
back to this.

[Rabbi Vole]

That's a town-A50 hammer. I think. Rosterfoster is still a good vote, and I townread the way you're thinking but I'm not really sure how to work through NKA based on RCE's reads.

pedit: teacher where are you at? did anything at eod1 impress you?

[Rabbi Vole]

yes I'd hard defend my scumbuddy by claiming masons in an apparently-swingy setup that probably has vigs and shit in it
*claps slowly*

case me coward

[Rabbi Vole]

Dr Worm no longer mechtown but I read his gambit as pure af. plus now we can play together<3

I have other thoughts on another thing that I'll give soonish probably.

couple of things have recently finished up for me so I should have more time to dedicate to solving this sucker pretty soon.

[Rabbi Vole]

VOTE: teacher

[Rabbi Vole]

There's something in my role pm that would make it fairly ridiculous for pignash to me scum. pignash has reciprocal content in his, it seems.

A50, have you alt hunted me?

[Rabbi Vole]

someone remind me to meta check roster for a thing

[Rabbi Vole]

ok but he won't flip scum

if he does this is bordering on mod lies via omission. so... no fucking shit I'd be surprised

[Rabbi Vole]

what are you so caught up with about us Vedith? given you think we're scum together I can't follow your thought process at all

[Rabbi Vole]

I did, yeah. I might not have been curious at that point.

[Rabbi Vole]

What did you think of roster's hardcore flail A50?

[Rabbi Vole]

It just doesn't match up what you're saying.
If you were truly masons you would be confident 100% and on a red flip then show your surprise.
Instead you are preparing for a bad flip by not fully committing

It makes 0 sense.

You're far too preoccupied with this. Play the game and read me for my content. You're also rolefishing and I won't be explaining before massclaim (neither should pignash obviously) so settle down.

I am not preparing for a pignash red flip because it is insanely unlikely to happen but I do not have literal mod confirmation that he's town and I can't see a motivation to lie about that. so?

[Rabbi Vole]

I probably have the stupidest reason to townread teacher

???

[Rabbi Vole]

Roster which of these posts do you think I'm talking about when I mention you flailing?

This is a test and there are right answers.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Teacher

Can somebody (not Lich) actually explain why they scumread me?

Still need to set a couple of hours aside and crunch through this game. But for now, I once again play the solo
VOTE: rosterfoster

No reasons in the original vote

VOTE: rosterfoster

Again no reasons.

Like there just isn’t a case on me.

I explained my scum read on you earlier. This has not changed (and your latest posts feel more of the same).

You do not have an explanation in your post. ‘I agree Roster is a good lynch’ is not an explanation.

Which, by the way, feels like scum trying to jump on to a supposedly easy mislynch.

But slightly fence sitting for when it turns out to be town.

Care to join me on teacher?

Feels bad.

VOTE: Lich

Pretty please?

Can somebody (not Lich) actually explain why they scumread me?

You wanna know why you're scum? Every single vote from you sucks. You are voting my strongest TRs and you are not giving reasons either. Your whole play since the game started smells. If I was a Vig I would have shot you last night.

I gave plenty of reasons yesterday, for them both. Why is Lich town to you? Cos if it's that scum don't give such baseless reads, I've got news for you.

[Rabbi Vole]

It just doesn't match up what you're saying.
If you were truly masons you would be confident 100% and on a red flip then show your surprise.
Instead you are preparing for a bad flip by not fully committing

It makes 0 sense.

You're far too preoccupied with this. Play the game and read me for my content. You're also rolefishing and I won't be explaining before massclaim (neither should pignash obviously) so settle down.

I am not preparing for a pignash red flip because it is insanely unlikely to happen but I do not have literal mod confirmation that he's town and I can't see a motivation to lie about that. so?

Dunno why you keep bringing the possibility the mod is fucking with you. Scum masons are so unoriginal.

dude Vedith is the one who keeps pushing me for role information. we're not literal masons to the extent where the mod has said "PIGNASH IS ALIGNED WITH THE TOWN" he'd just be the worst setup designer of all time if our roles = t/s

[Rabbi Vole]

but I do not have literal mod confirmation that he's town

Then you're not a mason.

Please address the rest of the post.

[Rabbi Vole]

Before I answer roster does anyone else wanna guess which of those posts I was referring to as flailing?

[Rabbi Vole]

(your answer was wrong btw roster but more on this later)

[Rabbi Vole]

tfw can't tell if scum positioning or reading comprehension through the floor

[Rabbi Vole]

Almost50 town
Dr Worm reads pure need to actually try to read his alignment tho
Vedith I'm back to having no idea how to read
pignash town
Rabbi Vole town
rosterfoster leaning somewhat town rn
teacher uncharacteristically null
Creature weak town
DoubtingThomas need to actually read
0verki11 towny earlier but absent
TemporalLich spicy townpings this phase

how am I looking

[Rabbi Vole]

{RV}
{pignash}
{A50, 0verki11}
{TemporalLich, rosterfoster, Creature}
{Dr Worm}
{Vedith, DoubtingThomas}
{teacher}
{}
{}

this feels eehh but my energies have been focused elsewhere so it's not surprising that I don't love it

[Rabbi Vole]

Vedith do something non rolefishing related plssslsls

[Rabbi Vole]

fuck it roster can pocket me
he's the one making any sense
gg

[Rabbi Vole]

lolol

[Rabbi Vole]

VOTE: Vedith
not policy

[Rabbi Vole]

If I doubted pignash was town I wouldn't have hard derailed his wagon.

[Rabbi Vole]

@mod

humbly request one dayvig shot please o great popoqodo

[Rabbi Vole]

DT yeah that's why I made the qualifying comment at the bottom. I actually think I'm probably wrong somewhere because I don't feel 3/3 or 3/4 rn

[Rabbi Vole]

@mod

humbly request 80 dayvig shots so I can shoot Vedith 80 times

tyia

[Rabbi Vole]

So I guess my PoE is roster/overkill/vedith/Worm (in that order)

do you think Worm's gambit was wolfy or have a strong alignment read on it? I think it was pure for sure. My meditation is whether it's AI or was just a way to kill two phases. Actually informed goon that knows there's 1 VT makes a lot of sense fml

Dr Worm my best friend please do alignment indicative things

[Rabbi Vole]

any chance of a jester in this setup actually?

[Rabbi Vole]

DT You're town. What do you think about Creature? He's kind of been just saying shit and not particularly contributing, but I'm not feeling scum from it for some reason.

What's your experience with Creature?

[Rabbi Vole]

I play the solo \o/

[Rabbi Vole]

Ongoing games. Apart from that, none.

Pedit: J

Also can we all just appreciate the TL is scum.

why is he scum?

also wow I think Creature is town now

[Rabbi Vole]

I don't think it's an intentional thing DT

[Rabbi Vole]

I think DT is Scum can we lynch there?

why is DT scum friend

[Rabbi Vole]

I didn't even think you were American lol

[Rabbi Vole]

hang 10

[Rabbi Vole]

catching up

[Rabbi Vole]

post count ntb for a newbie right

[Rabbi Vole]

TL you're probably better off not calling out softs itt

[Rabbi Vole]

Almost Scum with TL?

I was just wondering this

[Rabbi Vole]

Creature posts better as scum now than he used to tbh but that roster post was like the best summary of is late 2018 / early 2019 town meta I think I've seen

[Rabbi Vole]

basically ya

[Rabbi Vole]

I'm not going to say I have a inno on Creature but my role pm makes no sense if he's Scum here.
No further questions though.

Ok so can we get back to teacher/Lich pls thx.

I'm pretty sure this one was a shitpost but I'm down to teacherwagon

[Rabbi Vole]

I am going to sue this entire thread
This is DEFAMATION

[Rabbi Vole]

@mod

humbly request 9 dayvig shots so I can shoot everyone but pignash for DEFAMATION

[Rabbi Vole]

yeah it's best to treat his shitposts as shitposts rn TL

[Rabbi Vole]

I'm pretty wild but no, I don't see any meaningful crumbs there.
who could I be now?

[Rabbi Vole]

yeah it's best to treat his shitposts as shitposts rn TL

You should have kept quiet. He might've claimed scum.

who/how?

[Rabbi Vole]

The dayvig was likely a meme

[Rabbi Vole]

@roster ok fair

[Rabbi Vole]

creature ???posting triggers me

[Rabbi Vole]

yeah I was hoping that would go undetected smh

[Rabbi Vole]

creature ???posting triggers me

???

why cant scum creature post this kind of shit

he has started ???posting as town as well, I've mislynched him over the ??? tell

[Rabbi Vole]

A50/Creature 99% know who I am
I'm bad at hidden alting with people who know me well anyway

will reveal if it's compromising

[Rabbi Vole]

I'm not on point with reading him atm either but one moment

[Rabbi Vole]

I know who you are

I doubt that

[Rabbi Vole]

DT You're town. What do you think about Creature? He's kind of been just saying shit and not particularly contributing, but I'm not feeling scum from it for some reason.

This is closest to nailing the energy town!Creature has been putting out the last ~6mnths

[Rabbi Vole]

I know who you are

I doubt that

I still know though.

damn

[Rabbi Vole]

I'm curious enough that I'll let Vedith guess
just realised yes, you're very likely to have me right DT

[Rabbi Vole]

incorrect

I'm Rabbi Vole

[Rabbi Vole]

I know DT from off-site lol

[Rabbi Vole]

spooky

[Rabbi Vole]

I would not townread DT for charisma alone tbh
he has good charisma control as both alignments

what's got you town on him?

[Rabbi Vole]

yes

[Rabbi Vole]

the crow flies east for winter

[Rabbi Vole]

only a handful would call me charismatic from mafia universe

what do you think of my play in general rabbi

I've played with you as both alignments but I don't think we've actually rolled the same alignment that I can remember? it's totally possible but I'm vagueing out atm

This is a pretty non related tangent but I think you're like super forthright and give off a brash pushy impression but I've seen you make some smooth moves as scum and I think you're quite capable of winning a "wolves don't do approach that way" type read as a wolf if that makes sense

you're abstractly charismatic

[Rabbi Vole]

Hmm in general I find you hard to read. I think sometimes you have good reads but I think you're 5% more enthusiastic and engaged as scum (certainly in my experience) and scumgame is probably a little stronger than town.

you're consistently fun to play with tho and give it your all so I rate you

[Rabbi Vole]

how many games did you play with me

That's suddenly very identifying lmao
not a lot but a decent few

pedit: I just threw up irl thanks DT

[Rabbi Vole]

in one word struggling
I need to like ISO you and try to calibrate better because atm I'm kind of lazily poeing you

[Rabbi Vole]

Welcome back Dr Worm. I think you're getting good.

@DT, that's TemporalLich

[Rabbi Vole]

I want Vedith revisited but I'm not sitting on a vanity wagon.
VOTE: teacher

[Rabbi Vole]

UNVOTE:
I'm not really sure how a fake cop works. I'm also not sure how I'm meant to parse there being two cops in this setup given pignash and I are a thing. Explain it for me while I'm busy?

[Rabbi Vole]

I'm a bit checked out on the mechanical stuff. We've got teacher for a level head and moonlogic monkey king A50 so I'm comfortable this will end up making some kind of sense.

I'll bbl

[Rabbi Vole]

Well going by my role I'll expect another account made
Yay this is fun \o/

Roster which account is it you're in control of?

[Rabbi Vole]

Quite was an accident.

[Rabbi Vole]

You'll be modkilled for outing?

[Rabbi Vole]

Come back and let us know those conditions if that's OK. I'll check back later.

[Rabbi Vole]

Intent to hammer

I'm a bit lost on setup. If this greens would suggest we finish massclaim tomorrow.

[Rabbi Vole]

Well in the spirit of finishing massclaim
I am a town puppeteer and pignash is my puppet. I control his account.

He doesn't have a role pm.

[Rabbi Vole]

It would be intensely stupid if I was controlling an account that is meant to play against my wincon who also has no idea who his scumbuddies are or that he's meant to be lynching town.

[Rabbi Vole]

What do you mean by controlling his account? Surely you’re not making posts for him?

Yuuup

[Rabbi Vole]

Lynching me is not acceptable at this stage, A50.
VOTE: 0verki11

[Rabbi Vole]

A big part of me doesn't want to believe that there's actually doc+cop shenanigans in this setup at all because its reviewers are very competent. Either way, 3 cops + 2 docs is a joke and I'm trusting DT over 0verki11.

[Rabbi Vole]

A50/roster, if you aren't happy with an 0verki11 vote I need your votes elsewhere.

[Rabbi Vole]

He’s not a doc.

I actually believe the other claim. Maybe I’m just being stupid, but when I saw that claim I felt it was from town but a lie at the same time.

I'm not really sure what you mean sorry - who's not a doc?

[Rabbi Vole]

I completely missed that post. I like that role for town.

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Jsyk lynching me instantly flips pignash as well which puts us in evens.

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I didn't really want to claim the negative utility and was planning to crumb something like being 1 shot deathproof unless pignash dies first but I can't really be bothered. I think this game is a mechanical solve.

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UNVOTE:
Just gonna await orders here

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Basically:
If pignash dies I live on
If I die pignash flips

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For what it's worth I don't think you're crazy about 0verki11.
Also just realised a green flip from pignash would clear me so that's probably a thing worth considering.

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Even without a role pm I can't see him flipping with information omitted. Nothing in the rules suggests flips might be omitted and I don't think that's an oversight I can see this set of reviewers making.

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I'm literally town dude.
I am not today's lynch.

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Sorry 0verki11, I missed the comment.
@roster it's a slot in the game. It has to have an alignment, and I'm pretty sure it matches mine. if it doesn't flip with an alignment just lynch me tomorrow before lylo and it's an easy solve.

If it does flip town I'm basically cleared which is a massive boon for us right now.

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I'll save comment on the quality of this setup until I've seen the whole thing honestly A50. But yes, the reviewers involved have a lot of collective common sense.

Who is the 4 person scumteam in your eyes?

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It's a slot. It has to.

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【・_・?】
maybe

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Because I'm not scum and a green flip from pignash would clear me and force a nk my way.

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Like look me in the face and say "I want to lynch two town roles simultaneously because I think this is a setup with three cops a doctor and four scum" and then you're welcome to lynch me. But when I flip green I will be back post-game to laugh at you and I will main out and you can never claim to be better at mechanics than I am ever again.

Deal?

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Aren't {A50, teacher} + teacher's fake cop all cops?

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Assuming it's all true those are two roles are also roles which mutually confirm each other unless results are going to the scumteam. lol.

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Oh? I thought A50 was a cop independently.

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Oh sorry. That makes sense.
Carry on.

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Like look me in the face and say "I want to lynch two town roles simultaneously because I think this is a setup with two cops a doctor and four scum" and then you're welcome to lynch me. But when I flip green I will be back post-game to laugh at you and I will main out and you can never claim to be better at mechanics than I am ever again.

Deal?

@A50 fixed.
Still stupid as fuck.

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@mod are scum given fakeclaims?

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Thinking about self confirming roles actually got me wondering. I might have massively fucked up my A50 read.

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Captured? And no. It's two slots with a shared cop ability.

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You realise pignash is super obviously an alt who's been decommissioned and resurrected for this game right? Mid game alignment changes are possible bit also lol.

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I was here for EOD1 and there's no way I'd 'convert' pignash over anyone else.

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I'm literally posting for pignash tho

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No, I meant you were jumping on me because you're scum.

Pignash, what are you talking about?

Demonlord, I meant that you probably meant that you were the one being jumped on.

You guys didn't notice demonlord distancing failing with himself?

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The votes on us should be elsewhere full stop.
I don't understand what you guys are suggesting my role is.

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This is me posting without hammering.
Yay I'm conftown.

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The fact that 0verki11 and Creature decided to make me think I lolhammered 0verki11 should be enough evidence to consider both 0verki11 and Creature scumbos.

bless

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Assuming cops are gonna start dying like flies always cop into {me, creature, worm}. if we're in a situation where I'm mechtown and pignash is an unknown we can lynch him to test podoboq's madness later anyway

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You aren't going to get support for mislynching me.

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Not sure. I don't think scum will be bold enough to quickhammer me.

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Try again?

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How does what feel

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What.... no..... You can't.... surely!!

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SEE REASON PIGNASH

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ah crap

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Jeez have a sense of humour

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What are you talking about? I'm town.

(I was hoping you'd enjoy the hammer mister monkey)