Mini 2064 - Giffy-Q (Game Over!)

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hai

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VOTE: maria

wagons are good

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@maria wagons in general
and a wagon on you is extra good

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lol thats new

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its just 3 months. Others never came back

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VOTE: rc

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and why do we care about that

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i trust my record reading dunn more than maria's

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she has never pushed on Dunn as town on town

Wrong.

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ok chara do you have other scumreads

rc is town i believe

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VOTE: maria

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bad votes

enter town, rc town

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You. Power. Lynched. Me. Before. I. Could. Retract. The. Scumread.

Irrelevant
You were both town and you scumread each other for long enough.

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i demand more votes on enter or i am going to be very unhappy.

Not happening.

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Why not votes on Wisdom nya~

Wheres your vote?

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Vedith you make me unhappy

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Vedith you make me unhappy

How do I change that?!

Easily. Dont vote my townreads and preferrably vote my scumreads

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VOTE: dunn

i dont hate this

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chara renais slaxx all town

eevee and black arent bad wagons but dunn is better for now

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Also, Dunn likely gets invested like night 1 if we have any so I probably wouldn't vote there anyways.

what kind of logic is this

if someone is likely scum you lynch them, you dont wait for cops if they even exist to catch them

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The difference between blackjacks and dunn is that dunn has tried to affect the game. In a very underwhelming way but you can see possible agenda there

Blackjacks have posted nothing game related

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Dunn hard lurks constantly as town and his posting isn't that bad.

The difference in the quality of these wagons are massive.

you have it backwards

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What do I have backwards?

The difference between blackjacks and dunn is that dunn has tried to affect the game. In a very underwhelming way but you can see possible agenda there

Blackjacks have posted nothing game related

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ie youre right that theres a huge difference in quality between the wagons

but you're backwards on which is the good one

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The difference between blackjacks and dunn is that dunn has tried to affect the game. In a very underwhelming way but you can see possible agenda there

Blackjacks have posted nothing game related

Does that make Blackjacks less likely scum?

no it makes dunn a better lynch

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Not posting any content is alignment indicative for that hydra

Have you played with that hydra before and they avoiddd posting as scum

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Like I said already wisdom

All 3 heads as individuals have metas of lurking as scum and tryharding as town.

being in a hydra affects things
it could be as simple as not bothering to change accounts

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@rc all of dunn's posts except for the first two are content

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I think Prince is town here even if its BJ-Town and Dunn-scum

Just to throw that out there

Agreed

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sorry thats still a non point

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possible dunn agendas include

rolefishing varsoon
shading slaxx
shading enter
getting people off maria
and voting bj (obvious)


possible bj agendas? "Lets all lurk"

...ok

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blackjacks havent even bothered to come vote their counterwagon

i think its super clear its lack of interest for this game rather than lurking

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not following

he said that makes you/dunn less likely, not more

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until i see him towning it up with my eyes i dont trust you reading him in a hood

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He has twice the posts in hood as he has here

and what is he saying

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just the gist of what hes saying

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What should probably confirm me is the cop.

?

what was the point of this if not to get more from varsoon?

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doesnt change my read

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btw slaxx how do you feel about shiro

dunn/shiro/eevee sounds good?

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i dont think rce is scum

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renais you need to stop this silly tunnel

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like slacks is transparently scum.

dude. no.

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you have a simplistic read on an uninterested slot and youre scumreading whoever disagrees with you

go deeper

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no

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Slaxx - Town
MariaR
Dunnstral
Wisdom - Town
Shiro
Vedith
Pink Ball - Town
Blackjacks (ofrhz, ruru and Krazy)
Enter - Town
EeveeLution Army
Prince of Renais - Town
RCEnigma - Town
Chara - Town

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I have a town block of
Gamma
Dunn
BlackJacks
Eevee
Prince.

this block contains half my poe

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most likely

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no we don't

enter fix your reads

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prince vote is boring. Get on actual scum.

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rc shouldnt be there otherwise mindmeld

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and id include maria too

never safe to townread her

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nope

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who is towning you with shiro? I think you misunderstood

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null
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seriously?
you can do better than that

and why am i not in the crowdsourced townreads if you have that kind of thing

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you should have a read on me

null after how much ive posted is silly

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Eevee why are you not voting

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thats not the only townread on me

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cant i interest you in a dunn vote

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what about his hood activity

dont you think he was buddying renais

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because not being town here and trying to be town there is scummy

its easier to buddy one person than twelve

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i mean theyre still likely scum, especially if dunn isnt

but renais' argument is stupid, agreed

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unless dunn flips town i feel good about pink

eevee could be scum but theyre also lynchbait

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dunn shallowly voting eevee doesnt help

im looking at dunn/shiro/vedith now instead

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sorry that im developing my reads, wont happen again

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VOTE: blackjacks

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bj/pink/vedith new guess

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when did the entire bj wagon disappear

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rce is still town

vedith and bj are good lynches

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literally nothing to do with you

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you just had mislynch when i wasnt active, didnt you

at least a scum got killed

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had to*

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wait how did the bp die

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so pink is sk

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Yes, I was told that I would investigate as scum.

looks like people get told so you not being told is susp

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VOTE: pink

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k i buy that

UNVOTE:

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Yes, I was told that I would investigate as scum.

looks like people get told so you not being told is susp

Pretty much the same as what Pink Ball said
I got a role that was both town and mafia in its game that I rerolled first, and I asked about whether roles could be other alignments and got a yes, but did not expect reversed alignments to become millers and (maybe?) godfathers. So I tricked myself by asking questions that led me down the wrong thought process.

that was not directed to you, i was using your post as evidence

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not everyone has posted, im sure vig exists

the other is sk or 1shot extra scumkill or something

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So someone else killed Maria; I was explaining my logic behind the kill I thought I did

Youre confusing me
You submitted a kill on maria?

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hes bp and died

already mentioned it

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hes bp and died

already mentioned it

Anything else?

It has Institute in it, which apparently is an alignment and not a modifier

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not following

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So someone else killed Maria; I was explaining my logic behind the kill I thought I did

Youre confusing me
You submitted a kill on maria?

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so you submitted a kill on maria and gif said nothing to you to make you realize you cant kill?

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sorry this all sounds wrong

VOTE: pink

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that grey event log is nice

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?

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that's not an association though

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it is a cheeky scumfuck comment from enter

it doesnt mean he's truthful

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i don't think i've ever gotten a read q
this quickly.
VOTE: Enter
this is scum Enter.

chara town for starting this

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Also Pink Ball, myself, and Blackjacks are in a neighborhood together.

hey pink, according to your logic maybe enter was a cheeky scumfuck and claimed his scumteam here

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@Pink Ball
You didn't want to play pretend with me?

look more cheeky
#associations

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I wanted to be a magical girl but alas it wasn't meant to be

You can be one now

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Why are you mocking me? What I'm saying isn't a stretch, Wisdom

If that isnt a stretch, then what im quoting isnt either

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Doesnt matter, you brought attention onto him.

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was talking to chara

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VOTE: Eevee

talk to me about eevee

never played with them

didn't see anythign convincing in their iso

Enter consistently avoided talking about Blackjacks while they were being voted

However he does want to talk about eevee when that becomes an option

Blackjacks is probably a surefire buddy.

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VOTE: Eevee

talk to me about eevee

never played with them

didn't see anythign convincing in their iso

pls vote blackjacks with me.

VOTE: blackjacks

only cuz you asked nicely

Then he votes them because hes asked to and doesn't really has much choice

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chara renais slaxx all town

mhm this guy is right
chara and slaxx are never ever scum

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The difference between blackjacks and dunn is that dunn has tried to affect the game. In a very underwhelming way but you can see possible agenda there

Blackjacks have posted nothing game related

this guy on the other hand, bad

thats what happens when dunn doesnt towntell quickly. I become paranoid and derp

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slaxx bj is scum yeah, but the third one is still pink due to poe (among other stuff)

or do you have a better candidate?

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VOTE: RCE

Dismissive is another good way to describe your attitude towards me that game.

@PR TBH I don't really know blackjacks but if what you're saying is true you might be overthinking it. Ofhrz has been active elsewhere on site for the past little while now. Might be scum team is just counting on the wagon to fall off because of no content to it.

Hopping off BJ and defending them

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Shiro is probably town too

Vedith i could consider

VOTE: bj

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I spew enter as town.

you're not helpful

VOTE: ELA

reads pls


@everyone

if you're townreading this rn

pls tell me why

Yup, eevee town.

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so i townread the following people for one reason or another. reasonings arent the strongest for each one:

prince chara wisdom maria sapphire

good reads as well

scum eevee doesnt do this.

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I'm fine if we don't lynch them, I have a vig after all and I like bragging about my vig record.

ok look
renais didnt flip vig
he flipped strongman
meaning a modifier related to a vig does mean vig
meaning pink's ninja is a ninja kill and is what killed maria

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I'm gonna kill pinkball rn

And lets not forget maria wanted to lynch him

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your role pm is not neighbor without the neighbor

have you read about how this setup was generated? You have a neighbor role pm from another game

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It says I'm a 1 shot strongman from binding of Isaac

never mind everything else, but a 1 shot strongman doesn't have any ability to kill by itself either. same as a ninja.

renais was a 1shot strongman and he said he could vig
and presumably he was the one who vigged enter
so the modifier means you can kill

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oh yeah we agree then.

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Shiro doing her own thing towards the end of the day probably makes her town

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Also her claim sounds sincere

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bj/pink/vedith new guess

good boy

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VOTE: Blackjacks

ok maybe this makes pink a little townier

bj wagon is dead at this point, he doesnt have to do this

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k done reading

lets go with bj/vedith

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yeah i think scum have given up

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prince targeted enter

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what game is the bus driver from

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then if youre telling the truth; enter killed enter and prince killed prince

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yep that makes sense

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bus drive isnt redirection to self

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oh nvm i get it

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anyway we'll decide if vedith is bullshitting tomorrow

for now lynch bj

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nah

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any result dunn?

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same

i also think you look better since scum had a vig

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pink did you ask gif if i was right that your ninja modifier was enough for you to shoot maria

even with bj being scum vig it still stands that renais shot enter (or himself) with just a modifier

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vedith what did you do

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i agree with your reads

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why?

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except he didnt claim miller

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VOTE: shiro

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its a mechanic of the game

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you arent crazy, you are scum

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yep im sure town you pushes this bs

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dude

theres no miller in this game. people who got scum role pms from old games investigate as scum

pink was looking at the wrong role pm and didnt realize

how is that indicative of scum?

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like we know for a fact there are people who investigate as scum

how is it so unbelievable that pink is one of them

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...

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so who is scum shiro

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vedith bus drove his buddy while he was shooting renais?

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unless you have another explanation for bulletproof renais dying

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and im telling you why hes conftown but you dont seem to present an argument against it

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no way scum shoot shiro. in any universe.

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if he is lying how did renais die

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i got it

shiro is bp scum and vedith made him shoot himself

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actually doesnt need to be bp since faith heal was on them

shiro shoots wisdom
slax protects wisdom
vedith bus drives wisdom and shiro

therefore

shiro shoots shiro
slax protects shiro

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sorry we're lynching shiro

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i will only accept vedith or pink ball lynch today

but ill ask you as well

if vedith is a bus driver, you are saying he bus drove his buddy, who was shooting renais?

if he didnt and hes lying, how did renais die despite being bulletproof?

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how?

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im not following. even if there were 2 scum which there arent, how do we lose if shiro is town?

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uh what

who is he attached to

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slaxx is that what you were talking about

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yeah so thats what slaxx meant

i dont mind, lets kill all of you

sounds like scum utility anyway (well not for a lone scum like its right now, but it would be if shiro-scum got to make a 3kill present to his buddies)

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what game is that from btw?

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that confirms vedith as bus driver then

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also what do you mean you would get me in

you willingly wanted to make you lovers with slaxx dunn and me?

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ok so how did you neighborize three people in two nights

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im looking at the roles in the steam vn upick. which one is it?

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Subject: Steam VN UPick (Game Over)

Spoiler: Alisae's Flip

Hello, you picked

Little Busters

, sided with

Town

.

POWERS

Each PHASE, you must recruit a player to join Little Busters. You may either PM me or post in thread bolded during the day phase.

Win Condition

You win when the baddies are dead.

Only a good kid who uses mafblack can see this.
HIDDEN: Once you recruit 2 people, you must pass a randomly generated mission or all players in the neighborhood will lose 1 life.

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maybe the hidden part at the end is which causes the lover thing

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yep lets do it

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it leaves me with chara, vedith and pink ball

that is an automatic pink ball lynch, so no worries

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im already voting shiro, slaxx

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doesnt matter, dunn is a good death as well

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is the secret clause in your role pm as well?

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HIDDEN: Once you recruit 2 people, you must pass a randomly generated mission or all players in the neighborhood will lose 1 life.

this one

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oh so that was a thing?

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then yeah, that explains it

the quest is to all survive, so one getting lynched means you all lose a life (die)

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who did you investigate

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im also defending pink ball

your point

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and why are you voting him in the first place

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why is dunn town, shiro?

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also yes i believe what you claimed is actually what you rerolled

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no because he can still get innos on others

so why do scum target me over him?

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it ends the game, don't worry

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pink did you ask gif if i was right that your ninja modifier was enough for you to shoot maria

even with bj being scum vig it still stands that renais shot enter (or himself) with just a modifier

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Renais had said he can vig people.

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My assumption is still that you killed Maria, or at the very least both you and bj shot Maria

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if we go ahead with lynching shiro, no

otherwise yes

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Then his role was written in other way than mine. Mine just have the Ninja modifier, but no vig info whatsoever

His said just strongman, not vig. So same thing as yours

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Are you sure that Renais shot enter? Maybe I'm right about the odd night SK and they killed Enter

also
vedith is now confirmed bus driver by eevee

so enter shoot enter
and renais strongman'd himself
don't forget renais was also bp

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Then his role was written in other way than mine. Mine just have the Ninja modifier, but no vig info whatsoever

His said just strongman, not vig. So same thing as yours

Yeah but how did he assume he could vig someone?

He asked maybe? Why dont you ask gif if you can kill

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Then BJ shot Maria, right?

Maybe, or you did, or you both did

If i was bj id keep the vig to surprise endgame town

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since when can a strongman shot be redirected?

since always
strongman bypasses protectives, not redirection

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Chara nobody can be scum except shiro and dunn

what else would you suggest

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Enter could've used his copy ability to get the strongman from PR during D1

The copy ability is only usable at night

Cardcaptor (Magic, Usage = Infinite): During the night, she may capture her target's random ability in her card. Multiple abilities can be stored.

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already told you, if that happens we lynch pink

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weird

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why do you insist on sk

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i only found two serial killers in gif games

Subject: Mini 1522: AA - MFA (Game Over!)

12. Kalimar,

1-shot Bulletproof 1-shot Dayvig Ninja Serial Killer

, survived and won the game!

Subject: Mini 1469: Rage (Game Over)

1.

morph the cat (hydra of fferyllt and Cabd)

NoEffenCllue (Hydra of fferyllt and Ineffective)

,

1-shot Commute Serial Killer

, was lynched

Day 3

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you know whats next, dont you?

pinkball, please attempt to dayvig shiro in bold

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what do you mean you think

your role pm would specify how to do it if you had the role

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and sadly, said SK does it in a private thread, so its unprovable

i just wanted your reaction and its not great

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It's a Ninja, so I had a one shot without being detected.

btw why did you say you had one shot

the ninja role you said you have is not one shot

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no. vote shiro.

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nope, l-2

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ok can you tell me whats making you insist about sk

whats wrong about the kills?

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ok and what about last night? wheres the sk shot? did the sk also try to kill me?

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odd night sk doesnt look plausible

none of the sks were odd night, and even if they rolled a town/scum role such as odd-night doctor, the odd night would apply to doctor, not to the factional kill

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we know vedith is not lying about being bus driver since eevee targeted me but shiro got in the hood

therefore we can assume hes not lying about bus driving enter and renais

thus i think the easiest explanation is that renais shot himself

its weird that renais had a kill while you dont, but i still find it more plausible than anything else