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It went like this:
Me-Yo, I'm roster, we mutual-town each other so wanna claim?
Him-Doc. Why choose me? What are your reads?
Me-Lich, teacher, scum, A50 susp, believe masons, RCE good. Code? Wanted to be town buddies to mesh
Him-Code doesn't matter. IDK if this role is townie or scummy
Him-Who to save?
Him-Oh didn't see mason claims
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In post 1741, rosterfoster wrote:I'll go to bed now and let you talk to Stefan. I'm pretty sure mechanically Creature is lying about N1 mentions though.
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Vedith, Stefan, from what I can gather you’ve seen ways that both me and Creature have been mildly scummy and townie. That is to be expected - but there is the mechanical point that I do not see how Creature could have got 4 mentions D1. It was confirmed by DT that we didn’t mention him and I’m pretty sure Creature said it was only in PT’s so action’s don’t count (not that there were any on Creature). Lich said that nothing happened in dead thread N1 so there is no way that Creature could have got 4 mentions.
Therefore Creature is lying about about the mentions night one. If you find no other reason to vote for Creature please answer this point before you vote for me.
Also the kill doesn’t indicate me at all, since both me and Creature kill Lich last night, as Stefan said.
I know you kind of addressed this point, but scum me does not clear Stefan. I was shading him a little yesterday so it would make sense for scum me to keep 3 non-clears open.
I’ll get to your points about my posts in a bit, but I hope you can see that I have townie reasons, and the mechanical point is the killer for me - there is no way past that.-
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From memory, this was trying to see if Pignash was aware that you always fake-claim/or shit early on. Do you think it sounds stiff or?Vedith wrote:Have you played with Vedith before?
My reads were all over the place. I was completely wrong to hard-tunnel Lich. The not productive wagon thing was because of the declared V/LA no? That makes sense IMO, since they wouldn't be able to response to pressure (we didn't know they were a puppet at this point)Vedith wrote:Scum: Lich
Scummy: Volxen, Teacher-ish
Null: Rest
Town: DT, A50, Rabb
Pedit: He's null. But a wagon there is not productive
Yeah I don't remember writing this post. My reads were very bad D1.Vedith wrote:Weridy I was kinda sorta starting to townread demonlord before he got replaced. There's no logic to it, but somehow I felt town.
Masons seemed pretty legit fmpov as it all seemed to be based around PT's. So this is why I was believing the mason-type claim to begin with, maybe with a touch of neighbour thrown in but some confirmation-type-thing.Vedith wrote:No reasons in the original vote
In post 873, rosterfoster wrote:
Vedith give it a rest. He's effectively claiming masons.
In post 879, rosterfoster wrote:
But your reason isn't based on anything to do with their play.
I think they just managed to sound townie-enough to me with the mason claim that I didn't question them too much. Obviously I was wrong and you were right, but does that make me scum? No.Rooster actually looks terrible with his posts concerning flipped Scum.-
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I was still pushing against DT lynch and for Creature untill the end, but I was being convinced by others. My townblock was right, but it collapsed because Teacher and you were very suspicious of DT. Mistakes happen, it's fineIn post 1770, Vedith wrote:This seems to have disappeared pretty quickly.
Rooster looks to be open for easy lynches and lynch anywhere after Rabbi and Pignash flip-
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That's about the time I go to bed. I stayed up for longer last night so I could make sure I got the Stefan Inno out quickly. If you look at my posting times that's consistent.In post 1773, Vedith wrote:Actually it's less town like than I thought.
Rooster was the second vote but he didn't post from my vote (3rd vote) and the self hammer (6th vote)
Overkill also looked favoured to be lynched so it could be a strong distancing that went wrong.
I pushed really really hard for the Rabbi lynch, and I'm pretty sure it was my questioning of some of his mis-information posts which guaranteed his lynch. It's a really awkward bus to make if it's a bus, because losing 2 scum at once would always be tough especially with the double-cop thing.
Also if I'm scum DT dies N1 for claiming Doctor IMO. There wasn't really much motivation for him to fake-claim (and I mean he didn't say it all, but it took him long enough in thread anyway) when we were strong-town reading each other.-
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Yeah I know but I do feel like I need to address concerns you have.In post 1782, Vedith wrote:As it stands I think Creature is Scum over you.
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Here teacher is trying very hard to force the Overkill lynch through .Then both Rabbi and Pignash follow on.
Overkill is at L-1 at this point. Scum me hammers him almost certainly to save the puppet.
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I know I'm confbiased here, but I want to look at Creature potentially using info from me and Vedith's PT N2 in D3.
Spoiler: Creature D3
In the PT N2 we mentioned:
-Me going softer on my Lich scumread
-Vedith assuming that Teacher dies because he thought Teacher got results
-I corrected this, and also said that A50 probably dies because it denies the result for that night.
-Mentioned that DT should maybe protect Vedith in future.
A50 died, which is the kill I would make if I were scum. I think Creature figured it was the right kill anyway, but reading our PT could have reasonably assured him that DT might not protect A50 as Vedith did not have the correct opinion on whether teacher gets results.
Now this post:
In our PT I directly mentioned this possibility. I feel like that might have stuck with Creature and caused him to make this suggestion as he knew Vedith might be amenable to suggesting it also since I had suggested it in our PT. This would neatly solve the problem of DT possibly protecting teacher for his next kill, so seems like something scum would suggest.In post 1507, Creature wrote:
What do you think about DT targeting you every night?In post 1505, Vedith wrote:I answered I thought?
I understand the role that I do what they do. Not make them a self target.-
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I abandoned my anonymity N1. I don’t think DT would have told me his role if I didn’t reveal.
It fits because you’re a PT watcher. N1 you didn’t choose me so you had no idea how many mentions. Hence why it’s wrong. You haven’t been able to explain the mechanical point which means Schizoprenic is not possible for you.
I also feel like town Creature gets incredibly angry at the fact that he’s about to lose partly because of a weird mechanical thing, instead of soft-accepting it. .-
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Yeah we didn't really deserve that win. Well played Creature . I can't believe you guessed correctly.
Sorry about the hammer DT, but people were convincing me.
Very interesting set though. I do think that replacing the tough guy with a goon or something might have made it balanced. Also having PT watcher be a thing would've been cool.
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