If anyone knows I was joining it's AP. Hmmm.
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Dark. Which ties niceline into my first read!
A50! Probably town, this should scare every other townie as much as it scares me.
Overkill probably town 51 is especially good for the wrong reasons and reasons that might not even be real. Worm wasn't at L-2 at any point btw.
Demonlord, probably scum.
Teacher is here. Creature is him. Vedith is also him.
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Lol.In post 15, Vedith wrote:I'm n0 watcher and no one visited Worm.
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I can see Scum Overkill doing this 100% though. If it weren't for those damn town posts.In post 19, 0verki11 wrote:Why lynch Vedith after we lynch the worm this could be a perfect mafia victory.-
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This is some pretty strong wordage for this early in the game. Vedith's roleclaim being 'outrageous' in particular. Are you sure night 0 mechanics don't exist? No I would think not if you believed Overkills claim initially. Do you have information that undermines his claim? That's what Vedith's counterclaim to Overkill would have meant.In post 39, TemporalLich wrote:
The claim is so forced it looks like a square peg jammed in a round hole. Not only that but the rest of your ISO doesn't fit.In post 33, Vedith wrote:Why are you so sure?
I'm inclined to believe it especially after Vedith's outrageous roleclaim.In post 37, Creature wrote:You believe Overkill?
What made Overkills claim better? Or more believable rather.
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Why are you taking Overkills claim at face value? I like that Vedith discredited it. It shouldn't be credible in the first place.In post 93, TemporalLich wrote:Vedith's claim of n0 Watcher looks like it was made up on the spot to discredit Overkill's n0 Cop claim. Not only am I not inclined to believe Vedith, I think Vedith is scum trying to paint Overkill in a bad light. Overkill would be a viable wagon if Vedith's roleclaim turns out to be true.-
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Ahhh yeah I remember you said you got that silent mafia day vig in scumchat, whatever that is.In post 97, Almost50 wrote:
You got mixed up. Your role is red. How do I know you might ask. Easy. I got the "good" role PM, so yours must be the "bad" one.In post 89, RCEnigma wrote:A50! Probably town, this should scare every othertowniescum as much as it scares me.-
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Next person that says overkill is cop is getting deathtunneled.In post 158, DoubtingThomas wrote:
because the dude was getting scum read by open claimed cop and was playing badIn post 152, Almost50 wrote:
To what purpose? Why won't you tell him what was wrong (from your PoV) instead? Why would anyone want to "ridicule" someone's posts that weren't even directed at them?In post 144, DoubtingThomas wrote:i was ridiculing the fact that your posts are shit
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I agree with all of these.In post 211, Almost50 wrote:
I can think of 3:In post 198, RCEnigma wrote:I can think of at least 8 ways to kill a worm.
1- Dipping it in alcohol
2- Locking it in a can after blowing cigarette smokes in it
3- Sinking it in certain sticky liquids
That's why drinking, smoking and having lots of sex is GOOD for your health.
On a serious note though, do you think it a good idea to out a VT role, gave Worm target it (and die), and then scum shoot the new PR? I mean, IF this role is for real them he played it in the worst possible way EVER.
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Overkill isn't going after Vedith so why would you have to take sides in a nonexistent 1v1?In post 189, demonlord wrote:
It's ok that you're voting me. I'm siding with overki11, so I was probably gonna vote you anyways.
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That outs himself does it not? He's claimed death on recruitment.In post 218, teacher wrote:
Im new to the bastard side of things, but I could see a scum recruiter too. Part of why Im not engaging in his game, but trying to get Worm engaged in ours.In post 215, RCEnigma wrote:at worst we'd have an IC out of it.-
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No that's not how this works.In post 244, Dr Worm wrote:
MR 49 THAT"S WHY ALL VTs MUST CLAIM!! SCUM WASTES NKs TARGETTING AT VT GROUP TRYING TO GET SUPERVT!! FREES UP OTHER PRs!!In post 211, Almost50 wrote:
On a serious note though, do you think it a good idea to out a VT role, gave Worm target it (and die), and then scum shoot the new PR? I mean, IF this role is for real them he played it in the worst possible way EVER.-
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Dunno what any of this even means.In post 293, DoubtingThomas wrote:temporal is keep butting his head onto me like laboon headbutting on the Red Line. Whenever I want to vote on him, however, 0verk1ll comes in doing absolutely nothing making me not want to vote laboon-
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I was wary of Teacher bringing up our newbie game, I figured when I repped in Scum!Teacher would try and pocket me.....but damnit I'm gonna be pocketed. Starting to think Lich could be town.
Demon can go, if you guys could start voting at anytime that would be nice. His busywork isn't even busywork he's literally coasting and goading town arguments imo.-
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Is scum less likely to lurk? Is there town content in his posts? If not what's the point of defending him?In post 305, DoubtingThomas wrote:and a weird back off from thunderdoming with me. why wagon a lurker?-
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In post 311, pignash wrote:No, I meant you were jumping on me because you're scum.In post 312, demonlord wrote:Pignash, what are you talking about?
...what just happened here?In post 314, demonlord wrote:Demonlord, I meant that you probably meant that you were the one being jumped on.-
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The madman!In post 320, Dr Worm wrote:
TIME to CHECK IP ADRESSES!!In post 317, RCEnigma wrote:In post 311, pignash wrote:No, I meant you were jumping on me because you're scum.In post 312, demonlord wrote:Pignash, what are you talking about?
...what just happened here?In post 314, demonlord wrote:Demonlord, I meant that you probably meant that you were the one being jumped on.-
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I don't think Overkill is incompetent, as a result he sorts himself out going forward. I don't want to get deeper into it than that. I think he's very capable of this play as scum but in the event he is, then he's digging a hole that will be tough to get out of later if town finds each other.In post 333, teacher wrote:
I get the pocketing paranoia, but think we just analyze alike. This list near mimics mine, including on players I hadnt commented on as much (Almost). I think the day we start to read different is the day I will suspect you. On which note, the major difference in our reads is 0verki11. I dont think it is a day 1 candidate, but neither do I have it anywhere near a townblock. Want to sell me on that?In post 297, RCEnigma wrote:Almost50, overkill, Teacher, Creature would be a strong town block, lean on lich. Worm doesn't matter, no one touches Volxen today though I suspect he could be scum.
Roster, Vedith, dt are all meh slots and demon is obvscum.
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Well what would you have called it?In post 395, rosterfoster wrote:
How could I possibly be a meh slot when I didn't even post? IDK, feels a bit like trying to embellish your scumhunting.In post 297, RCEnigma wrote:Roster, Vedith, dt are all meh slots and demon is obvscum.-
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In post 400, rosterfoster wrote:
I've read some of teacher's posts in other games before which makes me question this, but I've been getting this vibe that he is so overly focused on meta-stuff that it's distracting from scumhunting. Don't like it.In post 333, teacher wrote:I get the pocketing paranoia, but think we just analyze alike. This list near mimics mine, including on players I hadnt commented on as much (Almost). I think the day we start to read different is the day I will suspect you. On which note, the major difference in our reads is 0verki11. I dont think it is a day 1 candidate, but neither do I have it anywhere near a townblock. Want to sell me on that?
If there's anyone I'm confident in being able to read by end of day it's teacher, and vice versa. But what if we're the scum team......?
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To add to that I came in with the same meta mindset to counter Teachers. The game was and is kind of stagnant. At that point the only discussion point was Overkills n0 red check claim, why? It's beyond me I don't have the answers. So I have to develop a read on him somehow and don't mind him doing the same in respect to my slot.
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I'm purposely not on the wagon, there aren't enough votes and I'll leave it at that. Demons wagon only built when I started it, DT defending demon and moving into a townread on his replace in is ehhh annoying. I won't say fishy yet. I don't think Rabbi's replace in was all too townie but I'm obliged to give him a fighting chance.In post 494, Almost50 wrote:3- REC voting Vedith is kinds annoying. You know it ain't gonna happen today with this players list. Get off the vanity wagon and vote one of the two main candidates, or find a third candidate who can be lynched today and give a good case on why they're worthy of the lynch
I fully intend to vote rabbi today and I'm hesitant to mount a case against both demon and lich. I kind of think he's flustered townie.-
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It may be activity related, or a change in playstyle which is fair my style has shifted since my initial games. It just isn't the same town!Volxen I recognize from newbies. So not necessarily a read based on motivations but more on meta. I don't know how you play as scum admittedly.In post 482, volxen wrote:
Why are you getting minor scum vibes from me? Because of the question I asked of Creature? I thought it was a fair question.In post 481, RCEnigma wrote:....there's scum in my town block....I can feel it.-
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To expand on 481
There are a fair amount of slots inside and outside of the block I proposed that are either echoing that listor agreeing with it. The only opposition to it was Teacher picking at the overkill read but it wasn't a slot he was voting or pressuring for what it's worth.
I just feel given the players I put in that town block that scum can't afford to spew all of them if they are town. It's borderline gamethrowing, that grouping would roflstomp the scumteam.
So since there is no effort to break that town block up it makes sense to me that there would be a deep wolf within that grouping.
Disclaimer* I don't want to disturb that block for today and will continue to treat my townreads as I've claimed them. But I don't want to be townspewed just to die in the night and not have that out there beforehand.-
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I won't say there is no reason to Lynch them but a wagon on a V/la is counterintuitive and a poor use of time. It's always something you can come back to.In post 552, rosterfoster wrote:-When the recipient of the wagon is V/LA and there's no real reason to lynch them.-
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What is that's prompting the need to re evaluate now? What was your initial evaluation?In post 540, Rabbi Vole wrote:RCE I'll reevaluate but seems consensus town and he's a fairly easy read
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This logic only works if you think worm is also scum.In post 563, DoubtingThomas wrote:votes 0verk1ll for this post? why not vote him when he was saying weird shit like "just kill lich i am cop". The logic lich used to scum read me applies more to 0verk1ll. I think lich was just self conscious of voting 0verk1ll before. I think he was low key scared that 0verk1ll was a real cop taht had scan on him and was afraid to vote him until he voted someone else (me) once-
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Yeah I'm not doing that, I've read it and I'll keep it in mind.In post 578, DoubtingThomas wrote:
read the whole thing. that is 1 part of many other scum points he has against him. and i want your detailed thought on all of the points i've made.In post 575, RCEnigma wrote:Because it's literally the reason you gave for it being a scummy vote.
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Scum, probably. Why?In post 584, DoubtingThomas wrote:rce, who are you going to vote?-
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In post 556, RCEnigma wrote:
What is that's prompting the need to re evaluate now? What was your initial evaluation?In post 540, Rabbi Vole wrote:RCE I'll reevaluate but seems consensus town and he's a fairly easy read
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Possibly. I think I'm having trouble at the moment since the game has started to revolve around slots I'm not necessarily interacting with so it's hard for me to judge. I will have to clear my head and re evaluate at some point.In post 597, teacher wrote:
But see 454 and 540. I think there is an effort to break it up somewhat. Nobody pushed either player for their reasoning behind the reads, and I had asked already.In post 517, RCEnigma wrote:So since there is no effort to break that town block up it makes sense to me that there would be a deep wolf within that grouping.-
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Overkill is to a lesser extent but the two way tunnel isn't something I really care about when both sides are scum reading each other for the same things they themselves are doing. Then in DT's case can't truly defend a singular point in his case with supporting logic. So they are emotional reads imo and that's fine but not what I want to focus on.In post 603, teacher wrote:
I know this isnt to me, but the last one was, and RCE captured my own feelings pretty well.In post 602, Rabbi Vole wrote:which slots are you feeling the games revolving around and you're not super engaged with/interested in?
I feel like the game RN is centering on 0verki11, Litch, and DT - none of whom I have strong vibes on and so none of whom I can make much of the interactions.....
Pignash's wagon I'm again not interested in since it doesn't generate any discussion, if deadline was around the corner sure but w/e.
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I think the way he held onto the notion that overkill was cop and Vedith was faking a watcher check for as long as he did was townie as silly as it was.
His switch onto Overkill when his checks changed seemed innocent. Seems like a newb town Aha moment. I don't know how much experience he actually has just calling it as I see it.
Regurgitating my town block made me feel warm and fuzzy.
I didn't really lean that way originally but Teacher unknowingly swayed me. Teacher called Lich probtown pretty early and I was kind of wondering why but decided not to bring it up. I'd have to go back to find the string of posts Lich made soon after that but I could kind of see it. I don't recall why at the time.-
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