Mini 2072: Timeshift Mafia IV [GAME OVER]

[Eyes without a face]

Hi. A tldr would be very much appreciated. I'll try to do a catch up ASAP, nut it should help if I know of any claims or major/special incidents that happened.

Also how long till deadline?

Thank you

UNVOTE:

[Eyes without a face]

Hi. A tldr would be very much appreciated. I'll try to do a catch up ASAP, nut it should help if I know of any claims or major/special incidents that happened.

A backup cop claimed a guilty on you so we're lynching you unless you've got an answer for why they got the result they did.

Funny, cuz I'm the backup cop and I've got a guilty on you.

VOTE: mastina

[Eyes without a face]

are your results time shifted?

Yes. It was a 1-shot actually.

[Eyes without a face]

To avoid confusion: Time-shifted as in the very next morning, not delayed by a phase as normal actions would resolve in this game.

[Eyes without a face]

To avoid confusion: Time-shifted as in the very next morning, not delayed by a phase as normal actions would resolve in this game.

that's not really time-shifted then

It is according to the mod. He says Timeshifted actions are those that are NOT by the Timeshift mechanic! (It's puzzled me too)

[Eyes without a face]

He said.. "Normal actions" in this game are all affected by the Timeshift, thus "Timeshifted actions" are the exception.

[Eyes without a face]

Geez. This isn't funny. I tried to do a catch up and a bunch of players appear to have been in the game and replaced out but the OP doesn't have the replacements marked. I guess I'll need to ISO the mod backwards in order to learn who was whom before I do the game read properly.

[Eyes without a face]

Why would Scum eyes even say a different result?

Because I'm not scum? FB probably was messing around before he outed the guilty.

On another note I am even more confused as to why I only got a 1-shot Timeshifted Cop when Light_Ganski had 3-shots. Assuming he used up one on N1 I should have received TWO, but the mod only gave me (FB) one and he already used it on Mastina.

Which brings me to the fact a N1 kill did resolve on the same night. This proves scum have a the ability to do Timeshited kills. On the other hand nobody died on N2 so it looks like they have limited shots of the Timeshifted kills, and the rest of them are normal/delayed kills.

I will back shortly.

P-edit: Really? Thanks a million..

[Eyes without a face]

Well, you have one of two options:

1- Admit your guilt and eat rope, and let your scum buddies shoot me at night )with the risk that I maybe lying about receiving just one shot, so a chance to clear/guilty someone else)

2- Lynch me, and I flip what I (and FB) have claimed to be, so you are the lynch tomorrow anyway. It just serves you better to lynch me here and now so as not to waste a NK on me and make sure I'm not bluffing about having ran out of cop shots.

The problem is you are already on my wagon, so let's see if a scum buddy of yours has the balls to come hammer me (thus claiming scum as well).

[Eyes without a face]

Then do hammer me and prove my read wrong on you (which wouldn't be surprising sine I only played you as scum. I was scum with you once and scum against town you once, so to my recollection I have never really had to effort to read you)

My final reads:

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster
Not Sure: TD, Inso, Titus
Scum lean: Fuscosco
Conf.Scum: Mastina

[Eyes without a face]

And it's actually a good thing I get lynched now, so I don't need to bother catching up beyond page 7

[Eyes without a face]

Eyes I'm already voting you.

Oh, well.. I am not really paying attention to the composition of my wagon, as I'm trying to be as impartial as possible while I'm catching up.

Anyway, good luck to the town. I wish I could have helped you more, but it seems scum have got a good hold of the day play .. at least for this day phase. I can't believe you're lynching an unCC'd cop (backup Cop) claim.

[Eyes without a face]

Wait! who's the Vig?? And if they still exist then we can lynch Mastina and they can shoot me if I'm lying. Right? This doesn't even make sense. Why lynch the Cop claim and Vig the guilty afterwards?

[Eyes without a face]

Then do hammer me and prove my read wrong on you (which wouldn't be surprising sine I only played you as scum. I was scum with you once and scum against town you once, so to my recollection I have never really had to effort to read you)

My final reads:

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster
Not Sure: TD, Inso, Titus
Scum lean: Fuscosco
Conf.Scum: Mastina

Update

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster, Titus
Not Sure: Inso,
Scum lean: Fuscosco, TD,
Conf.Scum: Mastina

Titus moves up and TD moves down... still catching up until the thread is locked

[Eyes without a face]

Rightodude [L-3] Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Rainbow Reads Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Rainbow Reads

This was an all-town wagon, regardless of Rightodude's flip.

[Eyes without a face]

??? Why did it repeat the wagon?? I just marked the text and pressed quote!

[Eyes without a face]

Town: RR
Likely Town: SS, TTTT, Roster, Titus
Not Sure: Inso, TD,
Scum lean: Fuscosco,
Conf.Scum: Mastina

TD back to not sure. In fact I'm inclined to move them up to likely town because I don't think 343 comes from scum about their p.

[Eyes without a face]

VOTE: mephisto

L-1

VOTE: mephisto

Fuck! This was a dirty hammer.

Yes, the town deserves to lose for their shitty play.

VOTE: Eyes

[Eyes without a face]

I'm inclined to TR Eyes for the game-solvey readlists.

But Firebringer did nearly provably fakeclaim (the caveat being "non-timeshifted" actually meaning affected by the Timeshift mechanic so Firebringer is potentially correct - see 1073).

Regardless, I'm going to shift my vote away from Eyes right now.

VOTE: mastina

-TL

OK, Yah's claim is likely true. Maybe Inso should be in the town leans then.

[Eyes without a face]

VOTE: Mastina

Not sure if you switched your vote off me, but if so then..

VOTE: Mastina

And yes I'm very well aware if the amish tell, but that lol!hammer really sucked coming just 4 minutes after Mephisto were put @L-1

[Eyes without a face]

These are my reads rn
Time Devil: town
Fuscosco:

town but could flip scum

Firebringer: scum
TTTT: slight scum
Rainbow reads: unsure as of now

This is flipping scum 95% of the time, Good to know beforehand.

[Eyes without a face]

Town: RR, TTTT,
Likely Town: SS, Roster, Titus,
Town leans: Inso, TD,
Scum lean: Fuscosco,
Conf.Scum: Mastina,

Yeah, TTTT is obv!town
Fusco is ibv!Scum
Mastina is mod-cofirmed Scum
Depending on Rightodude's flip the game maybe already solved at this point.

[Eyes without a face]

Can we all note that Mastina's arguing that FB would not investigate her, and not that she the result he got was somehow manipulated with??

Please do note the above for when/if I flip before she does

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I am seriously fine being the lynch today under the condition you treat Mastina as a

mod-confirmed guilty

to me, and treat RR as a

mod-confirmed clear

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Any other details I am either reluctant to give before I flip, or I asked and didn't get a proper answer from the mod. (Seems like there's a lot the mod won't/can't answer).

[Eyes without a face]

And I will reiterate that Fusco is almost fraf lock scum to me. Only short of mod-confirmation level of read.

[Eyes without a face]

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will confirm my role

, and by confirming my role Mastina is confirmed scum and RR (You) are confirmed a townie. I am out of shots anyway.

FB's confusion about the delayed action(s) being delayed 2-3 days is also justified because we received only one shot to use ourselves, but he received ONE previous result. The shot I know about is the shot FB himself used on Mastina. The result on you most probably came from LG. No idea what happened to the third shot. Was it used by LG too? Was it Timeshifted or not? Will we still receive a result or was it delivered to the dead cop already?? These are all things the mod won't elaborate on, as well as whether there is a list or roles that can/cannot be in this setup... etc.

So, bottom line -and to save you and I both the confusion- I (ewaf) was informed that Mastina was scum and you were town and that's all I really know.

[Eyes without a face]

Up to you. It depends on whether you still doubt me or not. I obviously prefer to live so scum would be forced to waste an NK on me (not to mention by lynching Mastina and if -whatever his name was- who was lynched D2 flips scum then we would have come quite a long way of solving the game.

[Eyes without a face]

Whoops! Failed gambit.
I have no regrets though. When I request to bctach me up you either catch me up or you fucking shut up. You try to gambit and lie and this will be my response 10 times out of 10.
FTR,

Rainvow is TOWN and that's the only result I've got.

So Scum knew Mastina was Town and were reluctant to join her wagon. Check 1075 for instance. Why is roster so confused and is asking if I'm sure it's Mastina? (Hint: because he knows Mastian isn't on his team)

The question is if SS is scum too or if two members of the scum team joined the wagon, but I guess you can decide that after you lycnh these two.

[Eyes without a face]

VOTE: roster

*These two = myself & roster. I was thinking I might have been lynched already.

[Eyes without a face]

I'll save you all the trouble

VOTE: EWAF

Now lynch roster next, then Titus, then I don't know whom and won't bother rereading.

Also remember: Rainbow is Town.

[Eyes without a face]

Yeahm probably Inso. Scum saw me willing to hammer myself yesterday so could very well have hopped on me hoping for the same here.

[Eyes without a face]

Also check for who was pushing for my lynch yesterday and who was too skeptical of my fake guilty on Mastina and you are likely to catch the scum team.