2078: Any Non-Dead Person Can Post In This Mafia Game [end]

[nomnomnom]

just for testing purposes please keep the number of posters even if possible thanks i love you bye bye

[nomnomnom]

Maybe the theme for scum powers is an odd # of posters in thread given that we had an even commuter and a 100-poster something die?

Perhaps that would explain some things? This COULD be it.

[nomnomnom]

I don't think that's beneficial right now.

just claim your odd cop with a guilty on Eevee already

[nomnomnom]

I'm not pushing you I'm discussing with you and I want to put you in a special place in my head.

Again I'm an interaction-reaction player, I gauge reactions and what you say and make decisions when I have a good idea about them.

For real though it's kinda obvious you have an odd-poster role now.

[nomnomnom]

A vig isn't very beneficial to us right now and if we have even vig we likely have an useful odd for symmetry which I think could be a lot more helpful.

That has nothing to do with the number of posters.

[nomnomnom]

why would you want to out that

because there's simply no reason to do what you're doing, you're drawing a target on your back for no reason given there's a guilty and it's annoying and it creates non-necessary secrecy in a game where we have these roles in the open.

Reducing the amount of possibilities for your vig to shoot correctly is a GOOD thing not a bad thing.

[nomnomnom]

We have 109 posters which is odd.

[nomnomnom]

It's possible scums have a doc/roleblocker mind you which would make a little bit more sense.

[nomnomnom]

Who needs to die by tomorrow anyway

he hasn't posted in a while either

[nomnomnom]

Ugg i dont like how nomnom lynched me there. They dont even know the extent of mastinas powers. Im not scum and im certainly not confirmed scum based on a pr that doesnt even get technical results. How dare you say its a guilty if theres multipe ways it isnt.

Okay what ways are there for you not to be scum by a failed masonizer shot

[nomnomnom]

pretty sure eevee's l2

what is that term send help

[nomnomnom]

I mean my shot on Who was not successful so for this game to have a commuter AND a scum roleblocker seems farfetched.

@Xyzzy can scums multitask?

[nomnomnom]

I just think I was roleblocked by scums tbh

[nomnomnom]

Ok I'm fine with getting vigged if this flips town.

65% of the time this is town purely off this tbh. To trust in your read no matter how shortsighted enough to die for it. Its everything i stand for.
Pure and utter loyalty

Ausuka did the same thing in a turbo and was scum so I have proof that this is not town indicative.

[nomnomnom]

Player meta is a good thing.

For example I know you are able to say completely insane stuff as town and make a lot of subpar moves because that's what you did in our last normal so that's good to know when analyzing your reactions this game.

[nomnomnom]

Tbh I'd still love a Pine/Who lynch today

[nomnomnom]

So many people to vig, so little bullets

guuuh i kinda want to go back on Who guyyyyys

[nomnomnom]

I'm vigging your hydra tonight again say goodbye!!!!

[nomnomnom]

unless you prefer to be turbolynched that works too

[nomnomnom]

I mean I tried shooting ur hydra last night does that mean im confscum

[nomnomnom]

i don't think town you would be stupid enough to try to vig us after the marathon or your last micro where you chain lynched town.
if you are stupid enough to do that yeah you should be lynched until you stop playing the way that you are playing the game.

can someone who is not in this game please get NSG to post in it otherwise we're going to recruit creature but i'd rather have nsg than creature no offense to creature

What does this have to do with me trying to get Who lynched yesterday for framing my lynch, being told to vig him tonight instead, doing so, having no result then proposing against to lynch the hydra given the lack of obvious posting and comments?

Nothing.

[nomnomnom]

Thing is that it's very likely I was roleblocked by scum and I kinda implied I was going to shoot Who's or Pine's ass so you know there are not many possibilities here.

[nomnomnom]

So I was roleblocked.

This makes ausuka look REALLY bad for implying you could ever be an odd scum commuter by the way

[nomnomnom]

I found that implication really fucking odd ever since she said it.

[nomnomnom]

What's your read on Ausuka RC?

[nomnomnom]

I'm just going to put this out here again that Ausuka/Lavender is actually possible and in that world Ausuka just feeds that fakeclaim to Lavender as a false confirmation.

It's possible.

[nomnomnom]

UNVOTE:

It's probably wise to wait.

[nomnomnom]

The more I think about it though, the more I think we should explore Ausuka/Lavender, especially Ausuka. I am feeling really bad vibes from that front. There's just no way you imply that Who is a commuter with that modconfirmation at the beginning of the day and the fact that Ofhrz also let it slide is just really scummy in retrospective.

Either that's an oversight either that's a push in bad faith and honestly I feel like it's the latter. I have scumvibes from Ausuka. She also implied having a PR and an additional reason to vote beyond Mastina's "guilty".

[nomnomnom]

I guess you're right.

Again the weirder part of that claim is not claiming day 1 which still makes me think that it's a completely bullshit claim to begin with. Any alignment would have outright said that. People have outed themselves for masonries and vig shots, but a person that can make EVERYONE win doesn't? This is a joke.

[nomnomnom]

Plus the outlook that lavender is trying to give here is a newbie that just came out of the newbie queue like, I would expect this kind of person to shout as hard as possible they can make everyone win post 1.

I think someone fed them this fakeclaim and that Ausuka did this to try and get a member of the scumteam as a conftown and a "never vigged" spot or something like that. But again scums must have a roleblocker/doc at this point so I am not really sure what to think of this.
"

[nomnomnom]

There's just no way you imply that Who is a commuter with that modconfirmation at the beginning of the day

Ok I made a mistake with this; why is that scummy? It's not a badfaith push, I'm clearly not pushing the Who/RC slot right now.

You're pushing for a vigshot on them and I declared my intent to vig that slot, I could see that as a tactic to make a townie flip today then get me to vig them after.

But since I declared I was going to vig you if this flips town I am going to assume that the plan now is to get me to vig you, get the doc on you/roleblock me forever then get me lynched tomorrow. This makes sense.

[nomnomnom]

Hahahaha

this active lurking is very funny

[nomnomnom]

Here's the thing, there are two possibilities at play here:

either you're not lying and you're effectively a "confirmed" slot which is basically useless see I only see you beetlejuicing around which will not win town the game, since every time you post it's self centered and you don't actually interact with players beyond that

either you are completely bullshitting and your partners made you come up with a claim that would not get you lynched ever

so you know

[nomnomnom]

Lavender/Pine/Ausuka scumteam? Possible.

[nomnomnom]

nom ausuka is townnnnn

Why do you think she's town?

[nomnomnom]

her play here seems a lot more similar to her play in PyPower or Bins-mini where she was town than in something like the mini i repped in that just ended where she was scum

but the contradictions!!!!

And the nonsensical stuff!!!!!!!

and treating a claim as 100% confirmed when it's actually not confirmed!!!!!!!

[nomnomnom]

I mean

I'm probably going to get roleblocked again if I was roleblocked by announcing vig intent on you/Pine and announcing i'm going to do the same tonight

[nomnomnom]

urgh there are just so many things that are starting to bother me honestly

[nomnomnom]

Huh why would scums shoot you tonight

[nomnomnom]

Why am I still scummy? Because people say so? For what reason? No one has told me and I’m getting tired of baseless accusations.
Should I claim? Idk, but if I live till tomorrow I will absolutely claim, because of the amount of people suspecting me for a reason not given.

this is the kind of post that makes my head hurt really hard

[nomnomnom]

Eh, I do interact. By asking questions, talking to them and stuff. Am I not? I haven't really done anything important though...Ah...how should I interact with players more?

You only interact when it concerns you. That's not scumhunting and that's scummy.

[nomnomnom]

What you said is also a big contradiction with your usual game. I looked at your literal first game when you had a bigger grasp on the game AS A VT. Now you claim you are "completely useless".

This is just a weird departure from what I've seen of you so far.

pedit: look at your first game on here and look at your posts in this game and you will see what I am talking about

[nomnomnom]

Looking at your scumgame is actually much closer to what you are doing this game. The exact same in fact. You only interact with people when they ask you a question otherwise you have no content output.

I'm fairly sure you are scum and that someone fed you this fakeclaim.

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: lavender

this is the vote if mastina's explanation is not fruitful

[nomnomnom]

I'll be thinking about things until mastina comes back tbh

[nomnomnom]

The point is: this claim is only fake if someone fed it to her. And even if someone fed it to her, why these two people in particular?

Like, I don't know. The other claims make sense because it's not something THAT specific. Even getting

ADMINS

to post is not as specific.

Technically jeep and meme are both ex admins

and no one told me????
god daaamn it guys

[nomnomnom]

UNVOTE:

my head send help

mastina pleaaaaaaaaaase

[nomnomnom]

@Jingle help me out here, what do you see buddy? I'm a bit confused, there could be multiple things happening here.

[nomnomnom]

are you claiming a guilty result on ELA

Maybe?
I'm claiming that I tried to masonize EeveeLution Army last night, and that I don't have a PT with EeveeLution Army in spite of having submitted that as my night action N1.

There's any number of reasons why it wouldn't be a guilty; there's only one world where it could be one.

are you masonizer the role or a variation of masonizer?

[nomnomnom]

as in a makeshift masonizer*

[nomnomnom]

A bit unrelated but I think I'm just going to put Lavender in the townbin, that response to me pushing them felt pretty townie even though I really don't like the self-centeredness nature of their posts.

Pine/Who/Ausuka is where I'm looking atm.

[nomnomnom]

We're looking at a scumteam that decided to roleblock me or protect Who. It's more likely that I was roleblocked. So logically speaking a scumteam would only block me in the case Pine is scum because I very clearly said that it's where I would shoot.

So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.

[nomnomnom]

I just want external thoughts. I need just backs and forths so I can better situate my thoughts on this. I really think scums were expecting me to shoot pine for that hammer so they roleblocked me. 100% obliged.

[nomnomnom]

Plus Pine directly implied alongside who that I was a "leashed SK" that had to be lynched at first occasion. That insta-vote at the beginning of the day is a bit odd as well.

[nomnomnom]

So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.

Wrong. From a town you PoV there is a more sure suspect.

If it isn't Who I don't really see who you're implying.

[nomnomnom]

So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.

Wrong. From a town you PoV there is a more sure suspect.

jingle if you're going to push my slot as higher equity scum I'm going to take it as a scumclaim.

Jingle is an IC

[nomnomnom]

Well I'm not seeing it Jingle. I could use some insight I guess.

I recently realized that past day 1 this is where I should really just try to collaborate with fellow townies because I tend to run in a thousand directions and just try to get somewhere, so this game will be the change of my life!

[nomnomnom]

oh it was nomnomnom who was implying that us surviving was scummy. you never said you were going to shoot us or even said anything that could be inferred as a shot at us. why?

That's funny I thought you didn't catch up with this game until mastina posted

[nomnomnom]

Although hm, no scratch that I'm being stupid.

I said to Jingle that if we didn't lynch Who yesterday I would end up shooting him that same night.

Although later in that same day I said I would shoot pine and he outed his reads as a result.

[nomnomnom]

I'm being a bit stupid, brain going in all directions, I need to re-center a bit.

[nomnomnom]

you and jingle are in a neighbourhood?

If I was in a neighborhood with him do you really think I would ask him in thread his thoughts

[nomnomnom]

If we are not lynching who today I will simply shoot him tonight, it doesn't matter.

You just have to follow my lead today.

[nomnomnom]

I'm calling bullshit. There's no reason for town to do something like that. Claimed survivor and now has vig shots? Sounds like survivor who just turned serial killer.
VOTE: Nomnomnom

Also calling bullshit.

My power, activated by posters from the Relationships thread, is Cupid shots. These serve much the same function as Vigilante shots.

You're claiming loverizer?

Sure, I'll fullclaim*. It's relevant.

The name of the role is town relationships X-shot cupid. If one of the top five posters in the 'Relationships' thread posts in this thread during a game day, one of my shots activates. The shot loverizes my targets. This serves a very similar balance function to an activated vigilante, so I do NOT believe nomnomnom is Town.

The possibility that she's a SK hadn't occurred to me, so I'll give some thought to keeping her around as a leashed SK, but I'm usually against it.

*At the last second I decided to redact the number of shots I'm eligible for. It's a finite number, but that number is tactical information, and sharing it really only serves scum.

PE: Christ, fourteen posts since I started writing.

[nomnomnom]

@Mastina why do you think your result failed? As in, most likely reason for you?

[nomnomnom]

your shot failed*

[nomnomnom]

also i think lavender is always scum here.

reasons? I liked the reaction to my vote

[nomnomnom]

it's mostly the latter two things, I don't really have a strong view of what xyzzy would or would not do mod wise. but lavender play makes a ton of sense as scum with that role and no sense at all as town with that role.

I think I was in the same mindset as you and I drew similar conclusions given the way she acted but... there's something townie in the way they reacted to my vote.

[nomnomnom]

Like I agree that Lavender's play makes no sense, and in a vacuum this play is just really bad, self-centered, not proactive, and the play with this role is extremely bad.

All I have to defend this is a tonal read on that last post that was given to me.

[nomnomnom]

@RC do you think newbie scum can pull off this kind of extremely town-sounding post? Because frankly I can't.

What you said is also a big contradiction with your usual game. I looked at your literal first game when you had a bigger grasp on the game AS A VT. Now you claim you are "completely useless".

This is just a weird departure from what I've seen of you so far.

pedit: look at your first game on here and look at your posts in this game and you will see what I am talking about

I guess I'm really not putting that much effort here...in my first game I could read through everything without getting confused.
In this one I just get confused and unsure of what to ask, that I just react to things pointed at me. In the other game, there were other VT's, but in this one there are so many more active PR's that I just don't feel as I could make 'that' huge a difference. Not really a good excuse to not help fellow townies though...
I'll try not to be as self-centered here and next-time.
PE: Tbh, in my scumgame I was moving a lot and didn't have that much time to mull over the details. Which effected my performance a lot.

[nomnomnom]

RC, I'm going to settle this with you right now.

It's not because I was wrong in a vengeful turbo game that everything I say is wrong and that I am contrarian for the sake of contrarian.

I tend to think a lot and I appreciate people discussing with me because it settles my thoughts, otherwise I tend to be too scattered and that's most apparent in the last micro I just played where there was no one to do so.

So yeah, I'm just discussing with you.

How don't you see that as townie?

[nomnomnom]

What you said is also a big contradiction with your usual game. I looked at your literal first game when you had a bigger grasp on the game AS A VT. Now you claim you are "completely useless".

This is just a weird departure from what I've seen of you so far.

pedit: look at your first game on here and look at your posts in this game and you will see what I am talking about

I guess I'm really not putting that much effort here...

in my first game I could read through everything without getting confused.
In this one I just get confused and unsure of what to ask, that I just react to things pointed at me. In the other game, there were other VT's, but in this one there are so many more active PR's that I just don't feel as I could make 'that' huge a difference.

Not really a good excuse to not help fellow townies though...
I'll try not to be as self-centered here and next-time.
PE: Tbh, in my scumgame I was moving a lot and didn't have that much time to mull over the details. Which effected my performance a lot.

I guess this is the part that feels hard to replicate as newbscum!lavender.

perhaps I'm wrong... but this guts me as town somehow

[nomnomnom]

she's making an excuse for not actually trying to scumhunt and that excuse is there's prs in this game so i don't care as much. not sure why you townread that.

Because it comes from a newbie.
Literally the only reason I am doubting this is because this is a newbie and that I ACTUALLY could see a newbie making this amount of extremely big mistakes as town. There are parts that definitely are scum but urgh. Fuck.

Lavender definitely did the same thing in their scumgame so... if I am voting Lavender it would be for that reason, it's because their play mirrors their scumgame to an almost exact match.

[nomnomnom]

Like, we're talking about the Undertale game here right?

I didn't act lurkish because I was scum, I was mostly acting lurkish because there was way too much movement in the thread and I couldn't get a good footing at all. I was extremely confused by the sheer amount of posts. I... could see a newbie getting overwhelmed by that genuinely.

But again, the point that counters that is the very very VERY precise active lurking and beetlejuicing in thread.

[nomnomnom]

if no one claims a roleblock on mastina we're lynching ELA btw

Counteroffer: if someone claims a roleblock on mastina we lynch them.

I agree with this.

[nomnomnom]

The real question is why would scums roleblock mastina when there is a vig in the open

[nomnomnom]

i mean, i consider vig a negative utility, it kills town faster.

Who said I am going to shoot town

[nomnomnom]

and you didn't die

checkmate

[nomnomnom]

btw was anyone else rbed? could be some sort of triggered rber

Yes I was informed specifically by Xyzzy that my wonderful planned vigilante shooting was cancelled.

Absolutely.

[nomnomnom]

did pine claim who he loverized

i asked earlier but got no answer

[nomnomnom]

btw was anyone else rbed? could be some sort of triggered rber

Yes I was informed specifically by Xyzzy that my wonderful planned vigilante shooting was cancelled.

Absolutely.

wait you were informed of the roleblock?

[nomnomnom]

Wait wait wait.

I don't get it Jingle.

If you SPECIFICALLY said in the neighborhood that it's almost impossible that the entire neighborhood is town then how does it make sense that Wags gets nightkilled here? It would LITERALLY destroy her here right??

[nomnomnom]

I mean I am 75% sure that Pine is scum here given my shot was blocked.

Are you sure about Eevee? I'll sheep whatever order you want to go through.

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: Eevee

Then let's go. Let's not waste time. I am shooting Lavender tonight.

[nomnomnom]

id rather have nom shoot me tonight tbh. since we can lynch scum instead. this should also be the best scenario for you. since no matter what we get something out of it. either noms vig claim psuedoconfirmed and a scumlynch with town me dead in a better fashion. since i dont trust the vig to shoot scum anyway.

YEEHAW WE GOT THE SCUM ROLEBLOCKER

YEEEEEEEEEHAW

[nomnomnom]

Maybe it failed cause im a neighbour.

Youre assuming with no details.

ngl I'm still laughing

[nomnomnom]

low effort readlist

{jingle, nom}
{whorc, ofrhz}
{mastina, PP}
{pine, lavender, titusofctown}
{eevee}

care to explain lavender and titus?

[nomnomnom]

Also FUCK I forgot PP was in this game lol

[nomnomnom]

I wanted to mod a game for the first time so that's why I with-held with signing up in games but seeing that the normal queue is full and the open queue is a mess...

That and I'm a bad player so signing up for games is punishing others lel

[nomnomnom]

like come on. "my role automatically wins the game if two people post" when everyone's discussing getting people to post. she would have claimed.

I mean.
Lavender's a scumread of mine, and your lacking daytalk theory could be valid, so.

She said she would claim day 1, which makes me doubt the lack of daytalk theory.

[nomnomnom]

they* I don't fucking know the gender whatever

[nomnomnom]

@RC do you think newbie scum can pull off this kind of extremely town-sounding post? Because frankly I can't.

What you said is also a big contradiction with your usual game. I looked at your literal first game when you had a bigger grasp on the game AS A VT. Now you claim you are "completely useless".

This is just a weird departure from what I've seen of you so far.

pedit: look at your first game on here and look at your posts in this game and you will see what I am talking about

I guess I'm really not putting that much effort here...in my first game I could read through everything without getting confused.
In this one I just get confused and unsure of what to ask, that I just react to things pointed at me. In the other game, there were other VT's, but in this one there are so many more active PR's that I just don't feel as I could make 'that' huge a difference. Not really a good excuse to not help fellow townies though...
I'll try not to be as self-centered here and next-time.
PE: Tbh, in my scumgame I was moving a lot and didn't have that much time to mull over the details. Which effected my performance a lot.

Um.

That post looks like textbook newbscum not sure how to deal with rolling scum?

Well see, this is why discussion is good. I thought this was townie because newbieness but I guess you guys don't see it that way.

I guess these must be our scums.

[nomnomnom]

Would a Neighbor Roleblocker make sense?

I mean from a setup perspective, why put the roleblocker on the neighbor here?

Then again she made a post that made me think she could be the roleblocker.

[nomnomnom]

If I am not shooting lavender I am shooting Pine here.

That's a given.

[nomnomnom]

That's not been confirmed or unconfirmed so it could be either.

[nomnomnom]

That's important to me because while I did try to masonize EeveeLution Army, I'm still skeptical (barring an answer from the mod) that I actually got a guilty.

If you're not sure then come up with a rational explanation that doesn't involve a roleblocker because that sounds pretty hard to do so given a roleblocker was on me 95% of the time.

[nomnomnom]

Like I think Eevee and Pine being scum together is ultra likely together. It makes sense for things to have happened the way they did.

[nomnomnom]

alright u cheeky bitch come at me

I actually checked the playerlist to see if Cheeky was in this game

where is cheeky so i can vig her too

she says I'm a big troll I'll show her who's boss

[nomnomnom]

Yeah I think this must be it.

In the end shooting Who was actually a very good thing, it unlocked today. Damn I am so good.

[nomnomnom]

ELA/Pine/Ausuka ELA/Pine/Lavender

two very likely lists

[nomnomnom]

like if pine was the obvious nightkill target then there's fairly good odds that he's #3 but i'm not committing to anything beyond the scope of what I've read.

how on earth would he be the nightkill target lol

I still don't understand your earlier comment about that either for all that's worth

[nomnomnom]

I mean I think this game is pretty much over if it's THAT simple.

Mafia games are rarely simple but who knows.

[nomnomnom]

For all that's worth though ELA also played REALLY bad in the large normal I played with her and she was town there and that kinda fucked with my mind.

Just an addendum here.

[nomnomnom]

i'm playing as if it's not that simple, which is why I want to try to hit the roleblocker today.

The only thing that's weird is giving the neighbor the roleblocker role in the scumteam.

Do you see Lavender or Pine more likely to have that PR?

[nomnomnom]

I 100% believe Pine is not going to say ANYTHING today, period.

[nomnomnom]

I'll just follow Jingle's call. FMPOV I have a lot more faith in Pine given what I said and what happened.

[nomnomnom]

hell no

[nomnomnom]

Does loverizing someone take priority over vig shots?

If that's the case then isn't it straight up better to let me shoot Pine here and make him a townie in the process?

[nomnomnom]

We also have to keep in mind he obscured

his number of shots

which is a very important detail here.

[nomnomnom]

I'll just follow Jingle's call. FMPOV I have a lot more faith in Pine given what I said and what happened.

The reason this isn't as strong as EV mechanically is because scum saving town Pine actually makes sense. You crumbed shooting like five people, mostly jokingly, but still. Additionally, if scum saves Pine, you don't get conftowned via two kills. Additionally, if scum saves Pine he's likely to get lynched eventually.

Basically, scum wants to roleblock vig shots on town unless they actually end the game in a scum win.

Pine could definitely be scum here. EV is almost certainly scum here.

Yeah, I agree with you, that would be the logic for keeping Who alive here too.

Still though. That pine vote is yikes.

We should soon decide on a lynch. Pine is never outing his love shot here.

[nomnomnom]

We're not claiming today, it serves no purpose.

It also makes the day go way longer than it should. We have everything we need here in terms of posters.

[nomnomnom]

earlier we force massclaim the easier it'll be to confirm and deny roles and all of the true town power is already out presumably

If you TRULY think that we lynch in ELA and lavender it serves absolutely no purpose to make everyone claim here since those two players have already claim.

Blood.

Death.

BULLETS!

[nomnomnom]

Alright, so lynch ELA, vig Lavender. That's it?

Let's go then.

[nomnomnom]

I hate waiting when we have an obvious answer and that's just waiting for shenanigans but heh sure

[nomnomnom]

I'll calm my overthinking overwriting ass and settle down lol

[nomnomnom]

We're not in autowin and we have some pretty strong towncore players here. There's no reason to rush this dayphase, even if we know how it likely ends. We can afford the 24-48 hours to let everyone at least check in.

Man I wish I had a jingle in everygame this guy is pretty rational about shit and he sounds like he avoids people like me to make disasters lol.

Play more games with me dude

[nomnomnom]

the only read i disagree with town consensus on right now is ausuka but i'll cross that bridge if/when i get to it i guess

you disagree with her being town or with her being scum?

I personally think there are chances she's scum here if these scumreads fail.

[nomnomnom]

i think she's the only real deepwolf contender in this game.

The only shocking post she ever made is assuming you had a high chance of being an odd scum commuter tbh

[nomnomnom]

But even that could be considered a big townie oversight as opposed to a serious push, especially given the non-push. So you know.

[nomnomnom]

At this point any other discussion that pine outing his love shot is pointless so yeah. Low effort.

[nomnomnom]

Ok lynch ELA.

[nomnomnom]

Why?

[nomnomnom]

:/

[nomnomnom]

Do you think that mastina is scum?

So far not really.

Do you think this has better chances of flipping roleblocker though?

If he is scum loverizer we can just kill him last, it's not that big of a deal.

[nomnomnom]

@Pine who are you loving btw

just so I don't shoot the same guy

My power isn't active yet. Untrod Tripod posted, but didn't satisfy the conditions.

I'm not in a hurry, I can wait on Jingle.

I wasn't eligible for a Cupid shot, and said so. The conditions are pretty strict, and were not met on D1. I wanted to loverize myself to nomnomnom, but was not allowed.

...But why?

[nomnomnom]

what the fuck is actually going through your head

[nomnomnom]

I must be roleblocked otherwise you would be dead dude

[nomnomnom]

unless you're completely bullshitting about everything so you know there's that

[nomnomnom]

I shot Who tonight. Nothing happened.

[nomnomnom]

Because I said I would shoot him, so I did.

[nomnomnom]

If the mafia roleblocked the vig when said vig announced they were shooting Who, doesn't that strongly imply Who is scum?

Isn't that the wine in front?

Heh at end of day I kinda implied I would do it to Pine.

And as Jingle said I did it jokingly with him too.

So you know.

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I mean Jingle kinda commands my shot here so you know.

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I'm not a neighborizer. We had an established neighborhood that activated at 100 people ITT. AFAIK, there is no means for more people to join.

Waaait a second.

[nomnomnom]

Wait no nevermind can we just lynch ela?

[nomnomnom]

omnomnomnomnomnomnom

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If for some reason Who lives to LYLO without any scum death, lynch Who.

Thanks.

[nomnomnom]

Just a reminder of the obvious.

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because in the case neither ELA or lavender is scum you must be.

[nomnomnom]

Interactions.

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you should also post the milk spilling gift that's how you properly mock someone skygazor

also happy scumday!

[nomnomnom]

I have to remind you RC.

You kinda asked for everyone to shut up before pine outed his result and now you're just going meaningless drivel with ND.

It makes no sense or purpose. What exactly are you doing?

[nomnomnom]

Omg

You're not upset, right?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

this is fake as balls

this never comes out of the mouth from someone like RC

[nomnomnom]

I have to remind you RC.

You kinda asked for everyone to shut up before pine outed his result and now you're just going meaningless drivel with ND.

It makes no sense or purpose. What exactly are you doing?

Did you think I played well in Undertale? @Sky, same question and don’t worry about hurting my feelings. Everyone and their Uncle knows I royally sucked in that game.

The only thing I ever thought about that game was that you were way too nervous and you had no trust in your teammates ever. You're a control freak. That's my vision of you as a player so far.

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Your nervous reaction to Sky making bad posts that game kinda gave me this impression that you fit the mentality of a control freak and that you easily lose your mind whenever something doesn't go according to plan and that teammates get deep in shit. You're the kind of person that would play all the chess puzzles if that was an option to you. Again it's just over the course of one game but I'm pretty good at estimating how people are in general. This anger you're projecting on others is just your internal fear manifesting in live, true form in front of everyone.

That's your true tell. I don't even need to look at your town game to tell you that the difference between your town and scumgame is that you want to keep the anger in check against your teammates in a scum PT whenever you are scum. That's what would give you away as scum everytime: selective anger.


But again, unrelated to this game, and feel free to tell me I'm wrong, it's only a profile I got out of one game

[nomnomnom]

that's just my humble opinion, I could be wrong lol, it's just an impression for one game.

You discover a new facet of people everyday.

[nomnomnom]

lmao

I mean I was asked my thoughts on ND so ya know, it's not even in a bad way i say this

it's okay it doesn't matter, ELA always flips scum here

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lmao

I mean I was asked my thoughts on ND so ya know, it's not even in a bad way i say this

it's okay it doesn't matter, ELA always flips scum here

Lol, all I was expecting was to hear about how bad I sucked during that game, not my entire personality ripped to shreds. I’m sure you meant nothing bad by it but ngl, I’m still in shock over reading that. I don’t even do chess puzzles eventhough I do like to play.

You're talking to me in a state where I haven't slept much and I have no filter that probably doesn't help lol

but like, this is not meant to be bad unless you want it to be bad, I just see a player that has some trouble with anger that's all, nothing wrong with that. Everyone has flaws, and mine are open for the world to see and I am probably the worst player ever lol

I don't think you sucked for that matter. I don't think that player inherently suck at this game unless they throw on purpose, everyone kinda goes through some kind of thought process and I think that you can't truly comprehend what people do until you understand it, which is how you objectively find the scums in a game. Qualifying people as "good" and "bad" is not an accurate nor a useful thing to do. It's simply an ego-based question that serves no purpose for analysis.

Sorry, I know this is not the kind of answer you were expecting. I'm a shit person. Interacting with me is a hazardous thing to do.

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i don't know

shrug

can we just lynch ela now, thanks

[nomnomnom]

alright

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It doesn't matter.

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You asked me how you played, and I gave you an answer that I thought was more insightful than "you played good I am proud of you <3 here have this trophy" because it means nothing in here. I don't come in mafia games with notions of "good" and "bad". Logical, emotional, egotistical, scared, perceptive, analytical, or whatever other adjective you want to throw out there? Sure. But good or bad? No. Don't expect this kind of thing from me, because that's not criticism, that's just a binary meaningless answer that won't serve any purpose.

There's a difference between how you are in a mafia game and how you are in general. It is personal, because mafia is a personal game where human element is quintessential to how the game plays out. There's nothing here I said that was inherently bad about you, at least from how I see it. I don't know you as a person either, I can't make this kind of judgement for your life in general, just in the scope of the single game I shared with you. People will judge your personality, temper and actions because that's how the game is. Outside the game? It's an entirely different story.

I'm just rambling at this point, but yeah, I really don't mean anything bad with anything I said. Just my thoughts about you as a mafia player.

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alright, let's try this again

[nomnomnom]

you played good I am proud of you <3

[nomnomnom]

ank who is scum

send help

[nomnomnom]

well fuck

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I, for one, would kill to receive that kind of empty unmeaning validation of my play cause mafia is really hard.

nomnomnom construe any requests I ever make for constructive criticism on my play in completed games that god forbid might somehow relate to my weaknesses in other games and playing other alignments to instead be a request for that exact trophy image.

will do lol

[nomnomnom]

me me me me me me me me

[nomnomnom]

t0wn wins!!!!!!

[nomnomnom]

We could simply lynch ELA instead of having this meaningless ego-based conversation.

That works too.

[nomnomnom]

I still hope out hope NSG will come by

I heavily doubt that will happen.

[nomnomnom]

If this is town vig Pine
If this is scum vig Lavender

imo

what's the difference

[nomnomnom]

Lavender has worse ELA associatives

Can I see those?

[nomnomnom]

I'm sorry you didn't like it.

This isn't about you though. I'm trying to get lynch scums here. Thank you for your understanding.

[nomnomnom]

Ftr I am willing to play out til deadline for a chance at getting NSG

You won't get nsg posting in this game, and I can say that with 90% certainty.

But whatever, we have time right?

[nomnomnom]

fuck

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I'm sorry you didn't like it.

This isn't about you though. I'm trying to get lynch scums here. Thank you for your understanding.

My reasoning for thinking POPs could be scum here, isn’t “ego” based. I don’t see why town!POPs objects so strenuously to that.

your entire reasoning for thinking that is because you are so high of yourself that you think someone that would want to include you in a hydra must be so town because of how good you are and someone who would mock that must be automatically smart

What's your deal, Nancy? Normally I'd understand: we're playing a mafia game, people act quirky, people act egocentric, people are people and they could have any number of motives to act the way they do. But you have none of this. All you do is coming here to fish for compliments and make yourself the center of a game you are not even a player in, and going berserk on people that give you their genuine thoughts because that's not the compliment fishing you were going for.

So again, what's your deal nancy? Do you want cat videos or a Shia Labeouf motivational speech? That would work better than whatever you're doing right now, trust me.

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Just end this day so I don't have to listen to this anymore.

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Nom

You have way more of an 'ego goes beyond skill' issue than ND does

No offence meant

No offense taken.

I know my limits and my flaws and I accept criticism. Fire away seal.

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Problem is NSG will never post here. Need another plan I guess.

pedit: as in they choose the same non-player target?

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Right, that was hammer.

I'll shoot lavender as according to plan.

If they both flip town Who's slot has 95% of being scum.

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pedit: as in they choose the same non-player target?

If RC/Who and Titus/Pops can both recruit the same player, they mechanically have to be the same alignment and become a masonry. Off chance of it being an S/S masonry, but :shrugs: I don't think that's likely at all.

Do they? Couldn't a player be in two hydras that have a different alignment?

Don't see what would stop that.

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If nancy gets a role pm that says town and a role pm that says scum and has her scumbuddies in it, she then wins the game by outing her scumbuddies.
And she likes me enough to side with town because I run Jester games for her.

this could end up as a shitshow but sure why not

[nomnomnom]

Slight chance of cult here, but I think it's remote enough to discount.

What would indicate a cult here

[nomnomnom]

rocks fall the penguin and the seal dies amen

[nomnomnom]

alright

[nomnomnom]

so how many kids to you plan to have

[nomnomnom]

Titus is my jungler and I am buying Rylai's Scepter so that no one can escape her attempts at friendship

i had respect for you before discovering you are a dirty LoL player

ew

[nomnomnom]

SO CAN I

LET'S PRAY TOGETHER THAT THIS WAS OUR SCUM ROLEBLOCKER SO I CAN SHOOT AGAIN

[nomnomnom]

Just fucking kidding. I have vig shots now. VOTE: Who 828 and 985 are framing my lynch and their entire iso contains reasons to lynch me prior to admins posting. Reaction test worked really well. I think Pine is just stupid townie regarding their reaction to me.

Who roleblocks nomnomnom Who recruits RadiantCowbells nomnomnom kills Who

Life is pain.

GG I guess, even though what you did was not really cool imo RC.

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I think that mod note 100% describes why the game was lost hahaha

[nomnomnom]

what did i do?

Dragging the game instead of just hammering?
I'm not mad about it, I just find it childish

pedit: hm, alright

[nomnomnom]

Yeah thanks for modding.
I lost BUT at least my reads were on point multiple times this game as well as seeing that Ausuka was cop so I guess that's still some feelsgood points

You're not escaping next time RC! I've figured you out

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nom i kinda get the impression you're resolved to call me scum and not try to read me and that makes me sad.

The main reason I had to call you scum was primarely because of Who's play.

I read people and you exploited my weakness which skewed my thoughts but I think I have a good idea, after this game, of the difference between town!you and scum!you. We'll see how that works out in our next game. But I'm never really deathtunneling people. If anything I reassess too much

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also RC literally mentioned reading the scum PT in thread and no one cared

HOW DID NO ONE CATCH THAT SLIP LMAO

[nomnomnom]

you win when only members of your faction remain, or when nothing can prevent this.

Ah so no parity.

Thanks RC <3

Winning with scum!you is a dream come true.

hahahahaha

I think my favorite part is Nancy very loudly proclaiming she wouldn’t be able to keep up the same level of Analysis and posting if recruited into a scum slot. Gets recruited into hydra, goes v/la, no one bats an eye.

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nom i kinda get the impression you're resolved to call me scum and not try to read me and that makes me sad.

The main reason I had to call you scum was primarely because of Who's play.

I read people and you exploited my weakness which skewed my thoughts but

I think I have a good idea, after this game, of the difference between town!you and scum!you

. We'll see how that works out in our next game. But I'm never really deathtunneling people. If anything I reassess too much

I really wouldn’t be too sure of that. I really believed I was being recruited by a town hydra and this was after losing GS to him.

Well yeah.

I told you that your reads were primarely centered because of how people responded to you in a game where nobody should even care about your presence, and I was right

I'm sorry for being harsh but it kinda annoyed me at the time because I knew that analysis was wrong so yeah.

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By the way sorry for assuming you had no reason to drag the game RC.

[nomnomnom]

don't be so quick to assert that you would do better from the safety of your spoiled dead PT with no actual experience reading me

I mean look

I was half right this game and if I wasn't such a coward maybe this game ends in a town win

We'll see next time!

[nomnomnom]

We'll see next time!

narrator: there wasn't a next time

I want one!

[nomnomnom]

I told you that your reads were primarely centered because of how people responded to you in a game where nobody should even care about your presence, and I was right

I'm sorry for being harsh but it kinda annoyed me at the time because I knew that analysis was wrong so yeah.

It sounds like you are being "harsh" to RC for playing to his wincon and beating you? I don't really understand what is being complained about

I was talking to Nancy.

RC redeemed the slot and he made Who win.

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nom i kinda get the impression you're resolved to call me scum and not try to read me and that makes me sad.

The main reason I had to call you scum was primarely because of Who's play.

I read people and you exploited my weakness which skewed my thoughts but

I think I have a good idea, after this game, of the difference between town!you and scum!you

. We'll see how that works out in our next game. But I'm never really deathtunneling people. If anything I reassess too much

I really wouldn’t be too sure of that. I really believed I was being recruited by a town hydra and this was after losing GS to him.

Well yeah.

I told you that your reads were primarely centered because of how people responded to you in a game where nobody should even care about your presence, and I was right

I'm sorry for being harsh but it kinda annoyed me at the time because I knew that analysis was wrong so yeah.

No you’re wrong, had RC not recruited me and say recruited Bitmap, I would have definitely sr him for that. Because I figured scum!RC wouldn’t want to recruit me ever but 100% town!RC would have.

it's ok to be wrong Nancy

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@RC You remind me of Mastina legit invoking that argument as a way to not read a conftown on LYLO. "He could be scared about a venge!".
I thought that was only a "mastina" thing, but I guess not!

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Nomnomnom, I was used to your actions d1 being a scumclaim and would have done the same thing there whatever alignment I was. If you scumread me for other things then good job, but if you scumread me for my reaction to your claim then that was not alignment indicative.

Well that and the fact you let the game take its course when jingle decided to vote on Roster and staying silent was basically my two reads, so I guess if you were town there, I would have been wrong

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though one time he did it as town and once as scum so like the guy's pretty hard to play with when he starts thinking you're scum because you vote him every single time and OMGUSes you hardcore :/

think about this and you'll figure out what the problem really is

What is the problem?
We played only two games together. One was a marathon so I didn't take it seriously, and in this one I only asked people to not let you get away after day 2

That's a low sample size and I've seen you do this to other players too!

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It's not really a good base for read analysis and it's not the axis I'll use in the future anyway. I know this is what you do baseline.