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Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:14 pm

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Blue checking in.

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Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:19 pm

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I have seen many foolish lynches on you Chemist. I won't vote for you.

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Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:49 pm

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VOTE: Dannflor
Try typing some words too next time
I have no idea what you stand for
And if you won't stand for anything
You'll get lynched for nothing.

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Post Post #31 (isolation #3) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:25 pm

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I also posted before reading anything. Story checks out.

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Post Post #35 (isolation #4) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:28 pm

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In post 33, Dannflor wrote:
In post 29, Chemist1422 wrote:Maybe I’m confbiasing, but this seems like a rather defensive reaction to a read that I thought I made clear was a joke
VOTE: Chemist

Then why not vote him?
Bad post. Red's vote has my support.

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Post Post #54 (isolation #5) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:47 pm

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3 VCs in 3 pages? What a mod.

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Post Post #55 (isolation #6) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:48 pm

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DEB is posting a lot without town pinging me, which is concerning. Pine is probably town.

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Post Post #98 (isolation #7) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:04 am

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Have to say, I'm not in love with gimmick posting.
Cheeky, can you elaborate on your positions? You spit out a lot of stuff like 'Should RVS this' and 'TvS' but didn't really justify much of the 'why' in all that, leaving me to think it's all just kind of pulled out of a hat.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #8) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:17 am

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In post 100, Arkham Asylum wrote:There's a Yellow head?
Or are you actually Blue? :P

-The Joker
yes there is a yellow but dont worry about heads too much
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Post Post #106 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:23 am

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@Dannflor:
Why's the Pine read raising questions for you?
And what are those questions?

@Arkham:
Woah woah woah I never said I was 'blue', just 'B'.
But I'm also not doing a lot to conceal my identity.
You'd probably know it.
I'm also not a huge fan of roleplay posts and nonsense just as much as huge multi-headed hydras bother me.
But here I am.

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Post Post #112 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:47 am

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Gimme more at some point though? Glad you think I'm scummy :3
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Post Post #113 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:49 am

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@Arkham
: Save that guessing ish for post-game. If you know who I am, you might know why I'd not a fan of people guessing secret alts in public thread while it's running.

@Cheeky:
You're a sweetheart.

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P-EDIT: Yeah, gonna have to consult with R on that, but I don't get any vibes from Pine like they're trying to ruse cruise us or get an early scum lead.
Also d'oh
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Post Post #114 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:49 am

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EBWOP: Not be a fan
Going to have to ask other heads to consolidate, don't wanna spam the thread.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #13) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:52 am

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Now that I think about it, I don't know if I've played in any games where Pine was scum. I'm just applying a general metric for how I approach figuring this out.
I'm not a huge meta guy. Man, whoever's doing the Bingo on who I really am must have like seven boxes checked off right now. :P
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Post Post #121 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:02 am

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The tables, how they've turned!
On the real Pine should I be more suspicious because that reaction makes me TR you more?
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Post Post #123 (isolation #15) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:08 am

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We're definitely the same, I'm just stupid, nevermind me.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #16) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 am

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This looks like town Egix.

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Post Post #149 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:52 am

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@Joker:
Identity speculation is fine. You'll only make a fool of yourself.

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Post Post #152 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:54 am

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In post 131, Flavor Leaf wrote:You’re young baby you still got time.

Saucy take: one of the big hydras are scum. Deb is either scum or town PR.
Must be Batman then. We're clean.

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Post Post #154 (isolation #19) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:57 am

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No, dude, I'm Blue.

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Post Post #169 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:25 pm

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In post 168, Flavor Leaf wrote:Debby doggie dog, claim Not VT for me
Why you fishin' so hard pot-reference?
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Post Post #170 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:19 pm

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It's already clear he's not VT.

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Post Post #173 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:40 pm

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If you say so.

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Post Post #178 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:55 pm

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In post 175, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 173, Binary Star wrote:If you say so.

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I see this in your future:
Spoiler:
Image
We're coming after you
We're gonna solve that mystery
I see you Scooby Doo
The trail leads back to you
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Post Post #188 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:13 pm

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Man why does every episode of Twilight Zone reboot miss the mark so far?
I just finished Ep 7 and while there's some great actors/performances in each, the writing is so slipshod and heavyhanded that it's baffling.
The old show was pretty hit-and-miss for me, but this one is all misses so far and it's a bummer because man I like The Twilight Zone for the most part.

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Post Post #190 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:28 pm

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Glad you are intested, Dannflor.
It's mostly the surface-level interactions with flimsy conceits that are often very transparently grounded in beaten-to-death social issues.
Like the last episode has the meteors hit Earth that contaminate the water and so people start to become hyper violent--but it's just the men.
That's not a terrible conceit, but it doesn't carry 50 minutes of television and the more characters say shit like, "Well, not all men..." and other rote lines that would make anyone roll their eyes it's a lot less of "Oh what a neat science fiction premise that has me thinking about how people really do use anything as an excuse to justify otherwise unjustifiable acts" and more "That was a really lame literal take on toxic masculinity."
Just miffs me because it's these misses that land just off base and consistently so and it ruins the whole experience.

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Post Post #191 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:31 pm

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Like I just started ep 8 and it opens with a sheltered white woman's housekeeper being kidnapped by ICE agents.
I'll let you know how it goes but that's not really a hook that I'm excited for.

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Post Post #192 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:43 pm

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Spoiler: Honestly just more twilight zone ranting
17 minutes in and the white woman has had to check her privilege a lot and now she's in some sort of prison and her housekeeper is there and her housekeeper is being really rude about all the housekeeping work she had to do because the white woman needs to check her privilege. The current hook is that you don't know why any of this is happening to the woman within the plot of the episode, outside of beating the whole white privilege trope into the audience. It'd be at least interesting if it was nuanced and the woman wasn't cartoonishly unaware of her life being in the bubble. I swear.


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Post Post #193 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:52 pm

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Spoiler: TZ2019 blog
So then after some more badgering around the protag for her privilege, she's introduced to some women who are almost certainly literal aliens and now it's not said but it's pretty clear protag is a literal alien and doesn't know it and has been detained for being a literal illegal alien.
Like lol who DOES belong in this country amirite?


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Post Post #195 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:36 pm

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Do you need a hint? There are
3
players in this game who have played as
town
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game.

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Post Post #197 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:53 pm

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Dannflor, why do you find it scum indicative that I try to get something productive out of RVS? The Pine read is of course weak but I felt the entrance was on the town side. Do you have any scumreads other than us at this stage?

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Post Post #199 (isolation #31) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:55 pm

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Yes

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Post Post #204 (isolation #32) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:01 pm

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In post 200, Arkham Asylum wrote:I'm just assuming Binary Star is a Krazy hydra since he's in every stealth hydra I see lately

-Katwoman
That's funny, because i'm just assuming Arkham Asylum is a Krazy hydra.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #33) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:06 pm

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In post 202, Dannflor wrote:the thing is I'm not looking for scum reads early game

rnow I have town reads on [cheeky, chemist, binary, maybe bujaber]
I found Bujabers entry to be quite 'safe', I have some suspicion there. I can agree with the others.

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Post Post #208 (isolation #34) » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:17 pm

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You've certainly got into your groove now. I'm wary about town reading you, since you have a good scum game and your slow-roll start was out of kilter with what I expect from town you. I know that if your scum, that's probably the only chance you'll give me to catch you.

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Post Post #234 (isolation #35) » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:33 pm

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In post 208, Binary Star wrote:You've certainly got into your groove now. I'm wary about town reading you, since you have a good scum game and your slow-roll start was out of kilter with what I expect from town you. I know that if your scum, that's probably the only chance you'll give me to catch you.

-B
If he's scum, at least he's scum that's trying to move the game forward. Let's go after scum that's done nothing.

VOTE: Chickadee

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Post Post #282 (isolation #36) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:32 pm

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One member of AA i'm reasonably confident of, and another I have a guess at.
Not sure what's sure what's up with Red, hope he turns up soon.

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Post Post #284 (isolation #37) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:46 pm

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Alright. I'm not ready to make a guess on you yet, Joker.

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Post Post #289 (isolation #38) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:09 am

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Katwoman and Mr Freeze should post more.

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Post Post #299 (isolation #39) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:52 pm

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Who's up for some Scooby Doo-ing?

If I had more time and energy, i'd make mask reveal gifs for all of these. Alas.

Spoiler: Poison Ivy
Ankamius!


Spoiler: Harley Quinn
In post 273, Arkham Asylum wrote:hillariously
This misspelling of hilariously has only been made a handful of times in MS history, and most them have been by...

Nancy Drew 39!


Spoiler: Katwoman
I thought for sure from the start that this user would be in this hydra. How could they not be? They are in every stealth hydra. Even ours.
In post 200, Arkham Asylum wrote:I'm just assuming Binary Star is a Krazy hydra since he's in every stealth hydra I see lately

-Katwoman
In post 215, Arkham Asylum wrote:
In post 204, Binary Star wrote:
In post 200, Arkham Asylum wrote:I'm just assuming Binary Star is a Krazy hydra since he's in every stealth hydra I see lately

-Katwoman
That's funny, because i'm just assuming Arkham Asylum is a Krazy hydra.
You're not fooling anybody, Krazy.

- Poison Ivy
Real? Or attempts to throw me off the scent?
In post 297, Arkham Asylum wrote:Katwoman is v/la until tuesday
This aligns with current V/LA status...

Krazy!


Spoiler: Mr Freeze
It's getting reasonably difficult now, Freeze hasn't given us much. But we're looking for users likely to hydra with Ivy, Harley and Katwoman, so we can start shortlisting candidates. We're looking for someone who likes memes, and frequently posts gifs/pictures.
In post 68, Arkham Asylum wrote:Also, trivia time!
Subject: Micro 863: Shirley, You Jest (ENDGAME!)
Pink Ball wrote:I know my Leslie trivia, TTTT
Could it be...

Pink Ball!


Spoiler: The Joker
This head has been surprisingly difficult to read, given he is the most verbose member of Arkham Asylum. I thought this may be Krazy initially, but it didn't quite feel right.
In post 294, Arkham Asylum wrote:If you've not figured out my main yet, here's my crumb: townreading me can lead to misery.
Could this be a reference to Open 743 - The Crown of Misery where this user won as scum?

Auro!


And you would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for Debbie Doggie Doo!

In conclusion, AA is scum.

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Post Post #302 (isolation #40) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:22 pm

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In post 301, Arkham Asylum wrote:Great job, but you have one head wrong.
Rats. 4/5 isn't bad though!

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Post Post #304 (isolation #41) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:53 pm

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You only have one posting head - You. If your slot scum I expect the primary contributions to be coming from Joker and Ivy, which currently is holding true.

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Post Post #319 (isolation #42) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:28 pm

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@Harley:
I'm aware of your mortality rate and I can accept that as a reason for the slow start from some of your heads.
When I realized Joker was Auro and he was the only head posting, and everything was within the scope of his scum play, I became concerned. He also made this comment:
In post 288, Arkham Asylum wrote:Ivy's been giving some reads in Hydra chat, she'll start putting in more effort in a while.
So AA was shaping up to play like i'd expect scum!AA to play, with Ivy and Joker taking the lead.
If your hydra is scum, I expect that it is us who would eat the N1 kill, so I felt it was important to pressure you today, or at least express my reservations for anyone possibly looking into NKA down the line.
If the other heads are going to start solving, then we have no issue.
In post 310, Arkham Asylum wrote:Good thing your alt hunting skills > your scumhunting skills then.
Well it would be hard to have 80% scumhunting accuracy after 13 pages so that's okay :]

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Post Post #320 (isolation #43) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:35 pm

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It's still currently my intention to lynch in the non-posters today, and Chick's reaction to the wagon and continuing to not post or solve doesn't read town. Unless my other heads want to do something else i'll keep leaving the vote here.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #44) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:40 pm

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In post 315, NerfedBuJ wrote:Even if it's not in-game that's still using your voice, so you can't silence people by lynching them.
I think you can.
Jingle only said the the dead continue to have an influence, but can't post in the game thread.
I expect the dead have their own thread to discuss/use whatever dead powers exist.
(I think)

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Post Post #344 (isolation #45) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 334, Pine wrote:The Chickadee wagon is suspicious as fuck.
I'm not entirely sure about it, to be frank.
And if I'm not being frank, I think Cheeky Teeky's a name I have the most problems with on that wagon and in general right now.

UNVOTE:

I'm also not a fan of DEB either, but I don't know 100% what to make of Arkham and their push there. The lack of info flips has me really unsure of how to approach the lynch, too.
Anyway.
I'm around if people want to talk. I haven't really soaked in this game as much as I would have liked to and it's bothering me.
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Post Post #346 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:18 pm

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Glad you made it to the party, White.

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Post Post #347 (isolation #47) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:24 pm

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Some party.
Why were we on the Chikadee wagon in the first place?
Also, thoughts on how to move forward considering NO FLIPS and the generally low activity people have had?

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Post Post #349 (isolation #48) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:29 pm

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You townread Chick?

I don't see no flips as an issue. I'm used to playing flipless games. We'll get information through other means. Might take you a little adjusting.

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Post Post #350 (isolation #49) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:33 pm

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In post 306, Dannflor wrote:just got home, will catch up after sleep

Is half the player list just lurking? I expected more pages than this upon returning
Hope you're enjoying your 17 hour snooze, Dannflor. Looking forward to your new content.

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Post Post #353 (isolation #50) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:40 pm

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I don't see the case for Chick as scum and I'm not happy with how the wagon's developed/sat while Chickadee hasn't really done anything under the pressure as far as I can tell.
Like I appreciate the initiative, but the result seems more to have shown the willingness of others to latch on rather than getting a reaction from the original suspect.
Anyway, Dannflor, what are you doing to figure out and solve the game?

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Post Post #380 (isolation #51) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:54 pm

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In post 352, Dannflor wrote:
In post 234, Binary Star wrote:
In post 208, Binary Star wrote:You've certainly got into your groove now. I'm wary about town reading you, since you have a good scum game and your slow-roll start was out of kilter with what I expect from town you. I know that if your scum, that's probably the only chance you'll give me to catch you.

-B
If he's scum, at least he's scum that's trying to move the game forward. Let's go after scum that's done nothing.

VOTE: Chickadee

-Y
Why this slot in particular

There are several do-nothing slots
At the time these would have been:
Pine - Our slot has stated a townread on this slot, I prefer to be concordant
Chickadee
NerfedBuj - I didn't consider this a do-nothing slot, but I include it here for you based on post count
ZZZX - My experience is that this is typical town play for ZZZX
mastina

I went for Chickadee on the basis her two entrance posts where direct responses to engagement initiated by another player, and her other posts did little or nothing in my view.
Any of these would have been fine votes not requiring justification, but since you asked this is what I based this marginal decision on.

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Post Post #382 (isolation #52) » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:08 pm

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I've only seen his town play. Probably not.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #53) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:40 am

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In post 387, Arkham Asylum wrote:Damn you figured it out, clearly I was shoshin all along

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Every time I see that username, I can only think of this bit:
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Post Post #455 (isolation #54) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:48 am

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DANNFLOR
When this hydra was voting you for pressure, I don't think you were producing the same quality of content that you were when I had just shaded you otherwise.
So it feels more like you're bothered by opposition via posts rather than votes. I'm not really sure what to make of that.
Is it okay to say I'm not a fan of BOTH DEB and AA? They skeeze me out.

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Post Post #458 (isolation #55) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:03 am

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Help me get ahold of this game, then, Poison Ivy.

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Post Post #462 (isolation #56) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:20 am

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In post 390, Arkham Asylum wrote:We spent more time trying to figure out the heads of BS yesterday than discussing reads. Still not at all confident who they are. >.>
It's about time.

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Post Post #484 (isolation #57) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:10 pm

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In post 466, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Y’all are way too paranoid about my playstyle. Sorry only one of you knows what I’m like (possibly more depending on who’s in the hydras) but that doesn’t mean I’m scum. I’m here to have a good time, so that’s what I’m doing.
I have to say
I hate this post.
VOTE: Dr Easy Bake
But you can't fault me for hating it, DEB
You can't scumread me for hating it
'cus it's JuSt My PlAyStYlE.

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Post Post #507 (isolation #58) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:44 pm

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None of our heads have opposed the DEB wagon. Proceed.

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Post Post #508 (isolation #59) » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:49 pm

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I personally townread AA, but we may need to have some private discussions about that.

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Post Post #562 (isolation #60) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:00 pm

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I'd be overwhelmingly cool with a Chemist lynch, now that you mention it.

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Post Post #573 (isolation #61) » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:43 pm

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If scum isn't fighting being lynched, that usually implies busing.

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Post Post #586 (isolation #62) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:23 am

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In post 583, CheekyTeeky wrote:Deb wagon is meh as it seems too easy

Binary feel slimy af.

VOTE: Binary
And you feel ugly.

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Post Post #588 (isolation #63) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:47 am

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I have no idea what any of his reads are. Since the Chick vote he has offered nothing.

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Post Post #616 (isolation #64) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:25 am

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I'm definitely not the same as town and scum.

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Post Post #633 (isolation #65) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:35 am

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I remember someone once had a signature about how coming up with a good fake claim takes eons but actually claiming is really easy.
Being a huge ponce and galloping around your REALLY COOL ROLE YOU CAN'T CLAIM BECAUSE THEY'LL KILL YOU FOR IT is functionally the same as CLAIMING except it denies town info. Please continue to lay down those good good hits at L-1, I sure do love them.
You signed your own death warrant for playing like garbage, DEB.
Sorry not sorry.

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Post Post #634 (isolation #66) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 633, Binary Star wrote:Being a huge ponce and galloping around your REALLY COOL ROLE YOU CAN'T CLAIM BECAUSE THEY'LL KILL YOU FOR IT is functionally the same as CLAIMING except it denies town info.
This.

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Post Post #637 (isolation #67) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:47 am

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In post 636, Pine wrote:Shit, don't I scumread you? Stop making sense, you'll ruin things.
That's your problem to fix.

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Post Post #651 (isolation #68) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:11 pm

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VOTE: ZZZX
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Post Post #677 (isolation #69) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:56 am

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Doctor Enabler is the stupidest terrorist claim I've ever heard.
Don't lynch me guys
I ENABLE THE DOCTOR
Yeah like you won't TRACK ME to any ACTUAL WORTHWHILE RESULTS
bUt I eNaBlE tHe DoCtOr!
Who has EVER, EVER, willingly DESIGNED a game in which there was a DOCTOR ENABLER
And what kind of SADIST would design a NO FLIP GAME with a DOCTOR that needs an ENABLER in it?
Ya'll aren't thinking this through at all.
VOTE: Dr Easy Bake

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Post Post #678 (isolation #70) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:11 am

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In post 677, Binary Star wrote:And what kind of SADIST
Let me stop you right there.
No but really I don't buy the claim either.

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Post Post #683 (isolation #71) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:59 am

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Nah, I'm not counter claiming, I just think it's a fake.

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Post Post #700 (isolation #72) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:02 pm

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Do we get an extension just because we want one, though?
The other thing that strikes me as peculiar is that homeboy didn't claim
Doctor Enabler.
He claimed
Town Doctor Enabler.
And that just skeeves me real hard.

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Post Post #704 (isolation #73) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:13 pm

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Doctor Enabler has plausible deniability and still potentially outs a doctor while also potentially drawing doc shots.
Whereas something like COP ENABLER would be a really shitty scum fakeclaim.
So really
It's bad.

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Post Post #712 (isolation #74) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:14 pm

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I hate the self-sorting argument on every level that there is to hate something.

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Post Post #719 (isolation #75) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:01 pm

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In post 714, Arkham Asylum wrote:Unless you can tell me why it's a bad idea to leave the slot and lynch it later if it survives, it's valid logic.

-The Joker
Plenty of good reason--DEB was widely scumread enough to be put at L-1. DEB hasn't contributed anything meaningful to progress the game state, develop reads, or make reading his slot easier. There's no indicator that DEB will do any of this if left alive. It only behooves us to lynch scum. The same 'well we can lynch it later if it survives' logic could literally be applied to ANY lynch on ANY slot on D1, too. Someone needs to eat the rope and I'm perfectly fine with the risk of losing a Doctor Enabler against the chance of catching scum here and now.
In post 717, Flavor Leaf wrote:DEB doesnt come up with that here on his own; he’s either true claiming as town, has that role or scum, or somebody coached him into it
Why not?

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Post Post #733 (isolation #76) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:07 am

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In post 723, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: Binary Store
Nice explanation, 10/10 stuff.

And it -does- apply anywhere, AA. Scum can just NOT KILL A SLOT once you've said 'oh well it sorts itself' and then we have to spend a lynch there ANYWAY or if the dude is faking he can just be like "Well obviously scum would rather shoot anywhere but me because they wanna hit the Doc/other PRs'. So, NO, it does NOT SORT ITSELF AT ALL.

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Post Post #757 (isolation #77) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:40 am

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You're absolutely not seeing that
He's scum
It doesn't -sort itself-
and if you're fine lynching scum DEB 3 days from now you should be fine lynching him right now.
Your case for him being town is non-existent
You're just getting snowed by an awful fake claim.
I don't think we're going to win if the attitude you're bringing to the game is "NO WE CAN JUST LYNCH SCUM LATER" the second they fabricate a claim that facilitates that awful line of logic.

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Post Post #759 (isolation #78) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:41 am

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I also do not see where in the rules it says the dead can keep talking to the living.
If anything, the line "When you are dead, you will continue to effect this game directly, but may no longer post in this thread" seems to EXPLICITLY state that doesn't happen.

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Post Post #761 (isolation #79) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 734, Arkham Asylum wrote:
In post 733, Binary Star wrote:And it -does- apply anywhere, AA. Scum can just NOT KILL A SLOT once you've said 'oh well it sorts itself' and then we have to spend a lynch there ANYWAY or if the dude is faking he can just be like "Well obviously scum would rather shoot anywhere but me because they wanna hit the Doc/other PRs'. So, NO, it does NOT SORT ITSELF AT ALL.
When I say sorts itself, I mean "We Lynch him D3 if he's not killed by then". Why would you try to randomly hit a PR when you have a guarantee that you'll neutralize one very important PR?

If scum just NOT KILLS him, great, our doctor's not neutered; plus DEB *can* obvtown by then.

So, YES, IT SORTS ITSELF AND IS A BAD LYNCH.

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Let me break it down why this is absolutely incorrect:
I've played plenty of games where the 'we lynch him later' never comes through later. You can't singlehandedly force through a lynch. You have no idea what gamestate will be like come D3. We're still on D1. Focus here and now.
If I'm scum and someone claims doctor enabler, that's not a guarantee to neutralize anything by shooting there. I'd shoot elsewhere because I'd both have a chance of hitting any actual doctors (actually neutralizing 2 roles instead of potentially hitting a BP or otherwise) and because idjits like you would insist you'd just lynch the claimed doc-enabler later anyway, which means I get a free mislynch DOWN THE LINE.
You're taking way too much to be true. There's no doctor to be neutered if he's lying for any reason. If the game is designed around both a doctor and enabler being in the game, then it's surely designed to handle the swing from the enabler beefing it D1 if that's true, so the risk over reward for going with what is otherwise a fine lynch is far more in favor of reward.

You have not made a case for why you think it's agreeable to let a majority scumread slot live solely based on a claim they can not prove. You're letting yourself be manipulated. Don't.

P-EDIT:
So you're letting him manipulate you with his fake claim then?

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Post Post #766 (isolation #80) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:59 pm

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I can go elsewhere, even if DEB is scum, there is scum elsewhere too. I recognize the widespread objection to lynching DEB and don't share White's desire to push against the current.
The thing is, the 3 V/LA slots are making this game really difficult. I feel confident there should be scum among them just on POE, too.
I don't support the Chemist wagon. I think he's been townie and he's lynchbait.

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Post Post #769 (isolation #81) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:19 pm

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I did pick someone
Heck, A MAJORITY OF THE PLAYERS PICKED SOMEONE.

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Post Post #772 (isolation #82) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:05 pm

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Not yet, still need one or two more.
And I can say with 100% confidence there's not a doctor enabler in this game.
So feed it rope.

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Post Post #822 (isolation #83) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:08 am

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In post 819, Arkham Asylum wrote:
In post 69, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 15, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Image
I want to be a part of the DC fun!
FL is the only one I know in this game so:
VOTE: Flavor Leaf
~Batman
What...? We accidentally got in a game together? Lol
FL has hard defended the slot; would this post come from scum!FL if DEB was scum, though?

-The Joker
Don't rule it out. I think that particular post is NAI.

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Post Post #823 (isolation #84) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:14 am

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Although, that's not what FL hard defending looks like, he just opposed the wagon and didn't really do anything more about it.

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Post Post #828 (isolation #85) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:28 am

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If mastina maintains the deathwish line today then I will oblige.

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Post Post #829 (isolation #86) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:30 am

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In post 827, Arkham Asylum wrote:BTW I think I'll stop signing my posts, feels slightly cloggy.
I'll stop signing when you work out who I am.

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Post Post #833 (isolation #87) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:39 am

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That wasn't serious.

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Post Post #858 (isolation #88) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:13 am

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so wait waht now
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Post Post #866 (isolation #89) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:22 pm

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I'm waiting to see if mastina or ZZZX will improve the standing of their slots.

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Post Post #870 (isolation #90) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:04 pm

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In post 867, CheekyTeeky wrote:I have a weird tinfoil theory where the nokill was an attempt to discredit DEB who may have been legit.
I think AA knows better than to push associatives in a flipless.
The push on Mastina looks opportunistic from Egix and Bujbuj.
This is something I like.

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Post Post #949 (isolation #91) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:38 pm

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Egix is one of my strongest townreads, here.

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Post Post #950 (isolation #92) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:38 pm

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In post 925, mastina wrote:
In post 828, Binary Star wrote:If mastina maintains the deathwish line today then I will oblige.
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VOTE: mastina



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VOTE: mastina

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Post Post #951 (isolation #93) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:41 pm

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I want to say that JJH still not having posted is indicative that he replaced into a scum slot.

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Post Post #956 (isolation #94) » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:09 am

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In post 954, jjh927 wrote:Also what horrible surprise have I got regarding my slot?
You're a claimed miller, but ZZZX didn't post much, so you have a clean slate for the most part.

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Post Post #959 (isolation #95) » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:31 am

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I try.

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Post Post #1003 (isolation #96) » Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:57 pm

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This push on Egix is really scummy.

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Post Post #1004 (isolation #97) » Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 976, Flavor Leaf wrote:Nah, I’m town. That’s not gonna happen unless i get in an argument with someone, but at this point in likely to just let them run over me
I'm down.

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Post Post #1014 (isolation #98) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:18 am

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In post 1013, Pine wrote:Scum has practically no reason to bus.

DEB’s EOD wagon was likely 100% Town, though it’s possible someone was bussing out of habit.
Nah. I would totally bus on D1 on a flipless game. Precisely
because
it's flipless, and everyone will assume scum would never bus D1 in a flipless game. I mean, probably not to the extent of strongarming it the way we did. But could other people on the wagon have been busing? Hell yeah.

You know what flipless games ALWAYS have? Information roles that learn things about dead players.

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Post Post #1032 (isolation #99) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:36 am

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You would have to full claim what you have before I can take a "soft innocent" seriously, and you should probably do so given how much you've already said.

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Post Post #1042 (isolation #100) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:12 am

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I trust Pine's judgement on that, and it's information that corroborates what we already were thinking. With Dannflor, he is one of my suspects, so if he is able to get himself townread with his claim I will find that productive. His current approach is undifferentiable from bullshitting scum, and if he were to die I still would feel like I can't put faith in his soft so it's a lose-lose.

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Post Post #1045 (isolation #101) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:32 am

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Why?

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Post Post #1047 (isolation #102) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:05 am

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Ah. That's not what I was expecting, but that makes sense. Thanks for sharing.

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Post Post #1066 (isolation #103) » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 1064, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1062, Arkham Asylum wrote:You didn't actually roll scum 5 times simultaneously did you boon?

-Kat
To be fair, before I was saying 4 times simultaneously, I was saying 3, but alas, 4 was all.
I believe this. I had a period where I was scum in multiple games simultaneously, it was rough. He's talking like a guy who's been freed from his scum prison.

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Post Post #1130 (isolation #104) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:43 am

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AA is pushing a scum narrative. They've been setting up for this since the start with all the talk about dying N1.

Going with Boon on this.

VOTE: AA

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Post Post #1141 (isolation #105) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:19 am

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You're right that it would be silly for scum!Dannflor to claim doctor here. I don't think Dannflor is scum. You've missed the crux of Boon's argument.

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Post Post #1142 (isolation #106) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:21 am

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Also, i've never read Boon incorrectly. First time for everything, sure, but I think he's town here.

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Post Post #1146 (isolation #107) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:32 am

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They're painting us for the endgame mislynch, while pushing easy lynches on Chick and Chemist today. The kill either failed through other means or they no-killed. They're a slot that needs a good reason for town to believe they would still be alive at endgame, so it makes sense for them to orchestrate something like this.

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Post Post #1147 (isolation #108) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:34 am

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In post 1145, jjh927 wrote:I don't know who you are in that hydra but I want to think you're better than this
We think we've been really obvious with our identities. Maybe we just aren't memorable players.

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Post Post #1150 (isolation #109) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:38 am

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Ok scum. But you don't get to save us for endgame. You wanna push us as scum do it today.

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Post Post #1152 (isolation #110) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:47 am

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I'm doing as much as or more than I usually do. I don't think White has read anything since day start. Barely seen him on discord. He's busy or something.

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Post Post #1161 (isolation #111) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:35 am

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One thing I was worried about is that he might fake claim a PR if he rolled VT because he hates that role. Are you confident that wouldn't be the case?
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #112) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:49 am

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I don't disagree with you, particularly with possibly the most vulnerable role already claimed. I was expecting more lower-tier info to have been claimed by now. I want to make sure our heads agree before making that decision, though.
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Post Post #1169 (isolation #113) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:55 am

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Took you long enough.
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #114) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:13 am

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I don't. Feels good here.
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #115) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:03 pm

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In post 1178, Arkham Asylum wrote:BS has 0 days, 22 hours, 4 minutes to stop being bad because I think they're too smart to actually believe the rubbish they've been spewing in the last two pages before I just assume they're S/S with Chicka and were waiting for the focus to be off her.
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #116) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:55 am

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You seem to not understand that this game is FLIPLESS and the ONLY source of information is player claims.
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #117) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:14 am

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V/LA
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #118) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:39 am

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Yes. Deal with it.
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #119) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:42 am

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Mostly because they deserve it, and still think the logic is good. Boon hasn't decided what he wants to do today.
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Post Post #1425 (isolation #120) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:30 am

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No one is 100% lock anything, that kind of language is utter lunacy.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #121) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:23 pm

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Scum feel threatened by us.
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Post Post #1475 (isolation #122) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 1472, Flavor Leaf wrote:BS and AA, can you consolidate on Mastina so i don’t get mislynched?
K.
I can't really read her, I don't think she's been scummy, but her wagon has my 2 strongest TRs (Boon and Egix), so yeah.
VOTE: mastina
My last post will be tonight btw.
The one sr I have that no one has talked about is Cheeky. She's played nothing like her town game. And OH LOOK, she's are the top of AAs townreads for ???.
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #123) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:51 am

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No one around then? Cool.
Guess i'm done then.
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Post Post #1702 (isolation #124) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:29 am

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VOTE: AA
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Post Post #1703 (isolation #125) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:31 am

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Guiltied, flailing scum. Should have been lynched yesterday.
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Post Post #1707 (isolation #126) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:39 am

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We're doing a massclaim until the guilty is dealt with.
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #127) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:42 am

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If town wants to be bad and ignore it, I'm totally down to eat a mislynch without claiming because my patience with this game is just about exhausted. Don't expect much talking from me while AA is still alive.
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #128) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:56 am

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It's pretty obvious who I am and the vast majority of posts in this game have been me. And you can drop 3+ heads thing, I've been solo here for quite some time. Sucks to be flaked on again tbh.
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #129) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:16 pm

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Busy atm
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #130) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:27 am

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In post 1862, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:Binary, you will likely be lynched if you can't contribute anything.
Could you offer your most recent reads please (even if somewhat outdated)?
You, FL, Dann, Egix, Pine town. Maybe Chicka too.
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Post Post #1878 (isolation #131) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:27 am

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In post 1867, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:Is anybody townreading CheekyTeeky?
Nope.
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #132) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:00 pm

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Okay Mr Ostentatious Sir, we can do Cheeky first.

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Post Post #1975 (isolation #133) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:40 pm

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In post 1972, CheekyTeeky wrote:BS > JJH > Chemist maybe Pine if game ain't over
Would not be surprised if this entire list is town.
(VT btw. Setup has no investigative apparently :/)
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #134) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:44 pm

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My main POE id you/mastina/AA, and also chemist, but he always plays like this, so he's kinda in there by default and i'm not sure that he's actually scummy by his standards.
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #135) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 1979, Pine wrote:
In post 1975, Binary Star wrote:
In post 1972, CheekyTeeky wrote:BS > JJH > Chemist maybe Pine if game ain't over
Would not be surprised if this entire list is town.
(VT btw. Setup has no investigative apparently :/)
Wait no

What

The thing I saw looked like a counter to the DEB claim - as in BS was >very< quietly softing a non-Doc protective. It’s the WHOLE REASON I turned face heel turned on DEB

VT claim blows this out of the water
Yeah, that wasn't me.
White told me on disc that he was faking a soft bc he was sure the doc enabler thing was bullshit and he wanted to try and draw the N1 kill.
He didn't seek permission and hasn't posted again since.
Great hydra partner, huh?
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #136) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:53 pm

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K well cya then dumbfucks, this game hasn't been fun, i'll be glad to stop giving it attention and then be vindicated post game.
Bye.
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Post Post #1993 (isolation #137) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:56 pm

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In post 1990, Pine wrote:You just “admitted” to an unforced error. Not buying the “vindicated post game” AtE

VOTE: Binary Star
Already told you that wasn't me.
Fuck off you disingenuous cunt.
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #138) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:40 pm

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1. No I don't
2. I'll be a minion for Boon's bidding
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Post Post #2000 (isolation #139) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:45 pm

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In post 1998, Chickadee wrote:You're claiming scum right now.
You're illiterate claiming right now.
In post 1, Jingle wrote:3. Dead players must communicate with me or post in the Dead thread (their choice) once every 72 hours.
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Post Post #2378 (isolation #140) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:16 am

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So it was just 3 goons? Townsided.
GG, nice dead thread antics JJH/DEB.
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Post Post #2434 (isolation #141) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:48 am

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That was entertaining reading up on you guys fear spam 16 pages in the dead PT in the final hour or so lol. I checked out 24h ago when FG was at 6 votes, thought it was a done deal.
Felt like we had a number of poor lynches and needlessly took 2 of the scummiest slots in the game to lylo, but great work on getting that final call right Egix, Dann, etc.
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Post Post #2454 (isolation #142) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:01 am

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In post 2443, jjh927 wrote:Ftr that's the actual thing I was doing

Wifom mostly just induces confbias because it can be interpreted however, whereas what I was doing was inducing paranoia and giving you shit to think about
I'm basically immune to wifom, I was ignoring your posts but you made the PT super cluttered, difficult to navigate and hard to read which had a fairly significant effect on me. Certainly worth the effort you went to for the disruption you caused. Would have been really easy to just check out of the game as conf scum there.
I'm surprised others fell for the fake-slip thing but it worked so gj.
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #143) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:22 am

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I joined cus my hydra partner signed up.
Then left me to carry and flaked. :(
I'm traumatized by hydra's.
There were only ever 2 heads btw, we made up the others.
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Post Post #2480 (isolation #144) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:38 am

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In post 175, Dr Easy Bake wrote:

In post 173, Binary Star wrote:If you say so.

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I see this in your future:
Spoiler:
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Survived the game without getting Scooby-doo'd, win.
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #145) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:41 am

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I stopped replacing into games after getting a scum slot 4 times in a row. I prefer normal odds of being scum.

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