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Thanks Jingle.
I did not want to post until the official replacement because I will try to go one full game without posting accidentally with BuJaber. Wish me luck.
I did read though so initial thoughts are:
Binary star, Arkham Hydra, and Egix are scummy.
Pine might be town for being townread too much if that makes sense. Why else would there be some pocketing?
Mastina the joker she is has self-voted in the one game you can't get rid of someone for self-voting so I feel like I've already been checkmated. (No not THAT joker)
Dann flatters me with the vote. My username made an impression one way or another which is nice I guess.
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In post 131, Flavor Leaf wrote:You’re young baby you still got time.
Saucy take: one of the big hydras are scum. Deb is either scum or town PR.
This is way too UNcontroversial for a town!FL take.
Why does Deb strike you as scum though? I was kinda leaning town as a gut reaction.My main is BuJaber.-
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In post 143, Egix96 wrote:
I mean this is your nerfed account so... I'd say the latterIn post 140, NerfedBuJ wrote:I have a difficult choice to make and I need some help.
Do I be try to be extra annoying (or at least post completely unfiltered crap) because death doesn't silence people here... or should I treat it like any other game?
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Nerfed is about not pissing myself off. If I'm being honest I have no reservations pissing other people off if it helps me get reads.
But you're right I'll be nice. There's already annoying hydras and jokers running around.
Haha jokers.
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I have like a really strong suspicion that you're BlueIn post 149, Binary Star wrote:@Joker:Identity speculation is fine. You'll only make a fool of yourself.
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Site timer is lying.. that could NOT have been 2 days.
Then again this game barely moves.
Chick's reaction doesn't feel scummy but also it's not hard to fake.
Let's lynch big hydra. Get it? Big hydra.
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I gave y'all the benefit of the doubt at first but I feel like your hydra's posting has been severely lacking in content for how much you guys have posted.In post 270, Arkham Asylum wrote:
Is this a serious vote? Why are we scum?In post 268, NerfedBuJ wrote:Site timer is lying.. that could NOT have been 2 days.
Then again this game barely moves.
Chick's reaction doesn't feel scummy but also it's not hard to fake.
Let's lynch big hydra. Get it? Big hydra.
VOTE: AA
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There is also like seemingly no communication between your heads that it's literally like having 4 extra individual players in the thread. I'm fine with hydras having some posts separately without private discussion, especially when there is an opportunity for real time participation, I do it myself when I hydra, but I still expect some sign that y'all know each others' thoughts to reduce the amount of hydra dissonance.
So overall so far your posting has been anti-town. By default I treat all anti-town as scum I don't make excuses for it unless there's someone far scummier out there. But even considering the possibility that you are town hurting town instead of scum hurting town, there's not much that I can townread in your ISO. The most you have in your favor is that the roleplay and to some extent the dissonance can be expected from your hydra, which only makes the arguments NAI and puts your slot at a null at best, not anywhere near a townread.My main is BuJaber.-
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In post 298, Arkham Asylum wrote:"Nerfed" Buj, it's pretty obvious that 3/5 heads aren't really playing the game yet - one's just shitposted so far, and two of them have said they'll get into the game later. The majority of posts are just from me and Harley - and even then, I'm not seeing any *major* dissonance that's soooo anti-town.
We are still effectively in early game where no one really has much content. You seem like you're taking vague reasons that could apply to any large Hydra to push us, while refusing to actually scumhunt for scummy slots.
Dishonest much?
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You are kind of describing the problem. There's not much content in the game as a whole. You or some other head continue to post, but not in ways that are contributing to koving the game forward (I guess this counts but since you're engaging with the guy voting you that would happen regardless of alignment).
And I had two other scum suspects. I am looking at other slots. People have more or less stopped posting between then and now. I like binary's posting a bit more now so I'm dropping them back to a null, but egix hasn't yet changed my mind I just don't have anything concrete about him to push yet, it was more of a feeling.
From the players that are posting, and are therefore giving me a chance to get a better read on them you guys seem like the best candidate for scum at the moment, barring just randomly picking one of the non-posters to push.
If you have a way to determine alignments from non-posters I'm all ears. But since we don't have 1 or 2 lurkers, we have at least 7, it's really hard to call them out as svummy for lurking.
Now I know what you're going to say "so why as scum would we not just shut up alltogether and let the thread die?" But as we all know that's just WIFOM. Especially if your partners are also lurking. I don't care how many townies stop posting, no scum team who actually wants to win and cares about their reputation with game mods will just choose to have ALL their members lurk out
Ironically enough a game with more chances to talk, through death or night actions or whatever is ending up with much less conversation.My main is BuJaber.-
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Are you Auro really?
If so your activity level really isn't indicative. You were pretty superb at fitting in to town. I had my doubts at times, but without the no lynch conversation I would not have guessed until too late.
I did know the alignment of my wolf partner though so I guess I had that bit of an edge over town.
Either way, we both know activity level is not a town tell for you, so I'm only going to get more suspicious of your slot if the other heads continue to take a backseat and let you take the spotlight.My main is BuJaber.-
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And you had me as town before, Harley was the one who suspected me so what's going on there? Did you talk about it and agree with her? What changed?
It's looking a lot like OMGUS. Especially when one head doesn't even know the other head was townreading me.My main is BuJaber.-
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Here's a fun scum ISO:
VOTE: ZZZX
I'm unvoting the hydra because I am pocketed by knowing it contains Auro. We have some mutual wish of playing as town together, and on the chance that it is happening, we deserve to give each other the chance to prove it.My main is BuJaber.-
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Also it creates far fewer pages, and prevents you from commenting in redundant stuff.In post 375, Pine wrote:
Fair enough. This is why I like to do stream-of-consciousness catchups in a single post, rather than the Creature style. Lets you see the whole picture.In post 373, Dannflor wrote:
I did find your later posts considering the wagon better than I found your earlier postsIn post 369, Pine wrote:Except not only did I not join the wagon, I later did a gut check on her and declared a TR on her. It helps to consider the whole context before making broad and flexible statements like "this is weird."
That was just my gut reaction to seeing those posts upon catching up
Almost every time creature or someone who catches up like him will comment on something and then several posts later they totally invalidate it.My main is BuJaber.-
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You're not though.. at least.. you weren't in overkill2 and you talked about it so I'm confused because in the past only shoshin has talked to/about me in this fashion.
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I dunno gut reaction is to scumread shitposting but there's a lot of players playing gimmickily here so it can't all be scum-indicative. And he seems quite self aware of how horribly it could reflect on him so he's either town or open wolfing.
I don't know him so I don't know if his personality fits with an open wolfer or not yet.
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And Kat is a Krazy alt right?
I have trouble remembering people by their mains, alts are just too much.
Still though we've had some epic 1v1's before because of disagreements but I haven't known him to outright laugh at my reads like that. That's a shoshin thing and krazy isn't that egotisticalMy main is BuJaber.-
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Not everyone is smart as everyone else okay.. am I still not allowed to scumread the hydra for being intentionally confusing.
You either out or you remain secret. This deception, joking around, lying, misleading, and taunting is not helpful.
In every game there are some people who will have meta knowledge on others and some who won't. But when you out an alt in such a way that only some people will understand and others won't it's an inherent disadvantage to those that don't understand.
Let me make it clear that I'm happy enough not knowing who you are and treating you like someone I have 0 meta on. That's completely fine and still allows us to play cooperatively, but if that is your choice then just say so and drop all alt talk, because at best it's distracting and at worse it's intentional manipulation.My main is BuJaber.-
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Jingle has an amazing mind for setup design so I joined this game.
Overall I've been immensely enjoying the decision to join MS and try out this site and I only wish I joined it sooner.
Funnily enough I didn't think the site was active at first, I thought it was only alive for the wiki and I used to fantasize about the days when people played games on here. And then one day I realized the site is actually still being played on and I signed up right awayMy main is BuJaber.-
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Too much pizza is a temporary state, it only applies to one meal.
And the line is drawn at around the time you start to feel pain or nausea. anything before that you're good.My main is BuJaber.-
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RandomSpectatorNerfedBuJIn post 410, Arkham Asylum wrote:So you're now a nerfed version of NerfedBuj?
NerfedNerfedBuj?
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I would have called FL scum but it doesn't make sense why scum FL would get this many townreads without posting .. so I think there's definitely some funny business there with the TRs, and if I'm right about this theory then FL is locktownMy main is BuJaber.-
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Okay the timing of those post can't possibly be a reaction to me mentioning Pine's name so this feels pretty genuineIn post 423, Pine wrote:I feel like I (regrettably) picked up a towntell from Arkham.
Also, the hydra dissonance from Binary Star comes off as contrived. That comment about “we have a stated TR and I want to be concordant” especially set off alarm bells. If you have a disagreement, you either figure it out in your PT or you outright state “we don’t agree on this.” Binary Star is hedging their bets depending on how things go.
Keeping my BS vote.
I agree with rising suspicion of DEB, but having a hard time pinpointing the problem. Tonal, maybe? Overall tactical impression? Dunno.My main is BuJaber.-
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In post 427, Arkham Asylum wrote:
1. Didn't know DEB was in the game till DEB said hiIn post 424, NerfedBuJ wrote:I would have called FL scum but it doesn't make sense why scum FL would get this many townreads without posting .. so I think there's definitely some funny business there with the TRs, and if I'm right about this theory then FL is locktown
2. Avoided a 1v1 I was trying to instigate
3. Not attempting to control the gamestate at all
4. Scumreading us for reasons and then admitting our identities explained our behavior later
Heavily town indicative for FL.
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1 is assuming DEB is scum right?
I get it , just weird that you'd put a conditional as your number 1 reason.My main is BuJaber.-
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Don't worry it's not a long ISOIn post 436, Pine wrote:
Hard to do without you identifying which posts you're referring to, but I can do a general ISO dive to explore my new read on DEB.In post 429, Arkham Asylum wrote:
He had around 3 serious posts amongst a ton of other fluff posts. We thought the serious posts were scummy, and his rebuttal was a non-answer (jokingly?) lying that they were fluff too.In post 423, Pine wrote:I agree with rising suspicion of DEB, but having a hard time pinpointing the problem. Tonal, maybe? Overall tactical impression? Dunno.
Can you look over at just those posts in context and tell me what you think? I'm on mobile, else would've quoted them myself.
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Why day 2 when we can do it now
VOTE: Chemist
I feel he's much less involved than open 755.
Post 551 is after some break but it is mostly stating some very uncontroversial, easy to come up with, LAMIST things that don't actually tell us much about him or any of the slots he mentioned.
Also the RVS posting kinda sounds like a cheeky scum entrance.My main is BuJaber.-
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I think since it's a big wagon, like an almost done deal, the fact that he is not defending himself but some people are defending him is probably town indicative.In post 571, Dannflor wrote:What do you think of the DEB wagon, Buj?
A situation like this on scum is not ideal for the scum team and I would expect them to treat DEB like a lost cause in which case bussing comes to mind, and DEB has to fight for his life to maintain authenticity of the buss. But what's happening here seems to be the opposite.
However with no flips I'm not really sure how much of that actually applies, I'm just going with my instinct and trusting that it's just a little weird and maybe he's town, despite him not giving us anything himself to make us believe that he is.My main is BuJaber.-
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YesIn post 594, Chemist1422 wrote:
Open 755 was 2FC9 right?In post 570, NerfedBuJ wrote:Why day 2 when we can do it now
VOTE: Chemist
I feel he's much less involved than open 755.
Post 551 is after some break but it is mostly stating some very uncontroversial, easy to come up with, LAMIST things that don't actually tell us much about him or any of the slots he mentioned.
Also the RVS posting kinda sounds like a cheeky scum entrance.
Why?In post 604, Dannflor wrote:
but chemist is town?In post 575, NerfedBuJ wrote:I think chemist lynch would be better thoughMy main is BuJaber.-
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In post 689, Dannflor wrote:
Why is he scum?In post 653, NerfedBuJ wrote:Why?
Chemist is LHF in every game but several of his posts have town pinged me this game so I'm kind of wary of him being set up as the default compromise lynch
He's definitely readable imoIn post 570, NerfedBuJ wrote:Why day 2 when we can do it now
VOTE: Chemist
I feel he's much less involved than open 755.
Post 551 is after some break but it is mostly stating some very uncontroversial, easy to come up with, LAMIST things that don't actually tell us much about him or any of the slots he mentioned.
Also the RVS posting kinda sounds like a cheeky scum entrance.My main is BuJaber.-
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Nvm I have never played with scum ZIn post 721, NerfedBuJ wrote:Ftr I started the zzzx wagon.
Let me double check something real quick.My main is BuJaber.-
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I would be impressed with BOTH of you if this flips scum
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Post-gameIn post 726, Arkham Asylum wrote:
Flipless game BujIn post 724, NerfedBuJ wrote:I would be impressed with BOTH of you if this flips
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Yeah Pine fell for it. I would have called it a slip but actually he's been pretty damn townie imo so I think it was probably just a mistake from his end.In post 759, Binary Star wrote:I also do not see where in the rules it says the dead can keep talking to the living.
If anything, the line "When you are dead, you will continue to effect this game directly, but may no longer post in this thread" seems to EXPLICITLY state that doesn't happen.
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What if they want you thinking this so they didn't kill anyone?In post 836, Arkham Asylum wrote:
Obviously or there’d for sure be an NK.In post 818, Chemist1422 wrote:
can roll with thisArkham Asylum wrote:That makes me slightly more confident DEB's role claim was fake, and that he's scum.
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And I'm quite confident mastina is scum.
I believe every word she said except anything she said about alignment.
As in I believe all the WIM stuff and that it isn't because she rolled scum and she doesn't have any obvious reason for it and all that.
And because of this I think it's scum-indicative. I think she's taking advantage of how honest she can be about it. Plus it gives theexcuse to just shitpost and lurk whenever she wants.
I mean scum are messing about for sure but they're taking full advantage if the flipless nature of the game and I admire that they are playing it differently than a normal game.
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For a few minutes probably.. what would you like to talk about?In post 841, Arkham Asylum wrote:
Their loss?In post 839, NerfedBuJ wrote:What if they want you thinking this so they didn't kill anyone?
Bujaber, are you around to talk?My main is BuJaber.-
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