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VOTE: ChemistIn post 29, Chemist1422 wrote:Maybe I’m confbiasing, but this seems like a rather defensive reaction to a read that I thought I made clear was a joke
Then why not vote him?-
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How does pressuring Egix over Easy Bake help you figure that outIn post 38, Chemist1422 wrote:
Because it’s not unlikely that I’m confbiasing and my reasoning doesn’t hold up, which would make it not deserving of a voteIn post 33, Dannflor wrote:
VOTE: ChemistIn post 29, Chemist1422 wrote:Maybe I’m confbiasing, but this seems like a rather defensive reaction to a read that I thought I made clear was a joke
Then why not vote him?-
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I’ve asked my question already. The reason for that question being that Pine had made exactly two fluff posts so I’m curious how you got a “pine is town” read from that.In post 106, Binary Star wrote:@Dannflor:Why's the Pine read raising questions for you?
And what are those questions?
@Arkham:Woah woah woah I never said I was 'blue', just 'B'.
But I'm also not doing a lot to conceal my identity.
You'd probably know it.
I'm also not a huge fan of roleplay posts and nonsense just as much as huge multi-headed hydras bother me.
But here I am.
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It was resolved by your response to my prodding. I was intentionally terse but you maintained a relaxed response and didn't get over defensive. I think your whole interaction / sorting regarding Dr Easy Bake is net +town as well.In post 122, Chemist1422 wrote:I want Dann to explain his townread on me, because he expressed suspicion and didn’t resolve it-
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In post 161, Arkham Asylum wrote:
Mr. J is just a terrible judge of character sometimes.In post 156, Egix96 wrote:I'm a townboi tho
And I can't possibly imagine what you thought was scummy from my opening posts...
~Harley
What do you think of this progression?In post 177, Arkham Asylum wrote:
Wanted to see your reaction. I think you're town now!In post 156, Egix96 wrote:I'm a townboi tho
And I can't possibly imagine what you thought was scummy from my opening posts...
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I'm interested why you think soIn post 187, CheekyTeeky wrote:I think a big part of the problem with your play Dann is that it seems too surface level.-
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No, I think scum are more likely to be hyper aware of themselves than not.In post 194, CheekyTeeky wrote:Dann do you think scum are unaware of how they post or do you think they think carefully about how they behave and what they post? What's more important is the intent. Your push on Chemist was too easily conceded. Your push on whoever was townreading pine in their firstish post felt similar, it's like you're looking for easy spots to shade in an attempt to look like you're sorting.-
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I know FL is a fearless playerIn post 168, Flavor Leaf wrote:Debby doggie dog, claim Not VT for me
but does scum!him actually role fish so blatantly-
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I'm not really scum reading youIn post 197, Binary Star wrote:Dannflor, why do you find it scum indicative that I try to get something productive out of RVS? The Pine read is of course weak but I felt the entrance was on the town side. Do you have any scumreads other than us at this stage?
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VOTE: Pine-
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my only scum read at the moment is actually PineIn post 197, Binary Star wrote:Do you have any scumreads other than us at this stage?-
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I'm just gonna elaborate on my Pine scum read before I go
is it lowkey weird no one asked me about it
It comes down to two posts 117 and 134. In both instances, he only pushes something after someone else has brought it up, and sort of uses them as an excuse to also put attention there. The exact phrasing of "It deserves some pressure" in the first post bothers me, like he's trying just slightly too hard to justify his vote and make it seem not awkward.
and then the other post—the only other post that's actually doing anything rlly—is just exactly reiterating the suspicion voiced by Flavor Leaf but without forwarding it at all or questioning AA
it reads like a lazy opening and not a town lazy opening, but a scum lazy opening that's trying to blend in by just paraphrasing points others have made
ill be around for like an ~hour or so before I go for real if anyone has any questions
be back Sunday don't lynch in [cheeky, chemist, binary, AA, bujaber] while I'm gone please (preferably no lynching at all)-
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Why this slot in particularIn post 234, Binary Star wrote:
If he's scum, at least he's scum that's trying to move the game forward. Let's go after scum that's done nothing.In post 208, Binary Star wrote:You've certainly got into your groove now. I'm wary about town reading you, since you have a good scum game and your slow-roll start was out of kilter with what I expect from town you. I know that if your scum, that's probably the only chance you'll give me to catch you.
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VOTE: Chickadee
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In post 234, Binary Star wrote:
If he's scum, at least he's scum that's trying to move the game forward. Let's go after scum that's done nothing.In post 208, Binary Star wrote:You've certainly got into your groove now. I'm wary about town reading you, since you have a good scum game and your slow-roll start was out of kilter with what I expect from town you. I know that if your scum, that's probably the only chance you'll give me to catch you.
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VOTE: Chickadee
-YIn post 235, Chemist1422 wrote:
I'm pretty okay with thisIn post 234, Binary Star wrote:
If he's scum, at least he's scum that's trying to move the game forward. Let's go after scum that's done nothing.In post 208, Binary Star wrote:You've certainly got into your groove now. I'm wary about town reading you, since you have a good scum game and your slow-roll start was out of kilter with what I expect from town you. I know that if your scum, that's probably the only chance you'll give me to catch you.
-B
VOTE: Chickadee
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VOTE: ChickadeeTown read these
unrepentant sheeping to build a very quick wagon, I feel like scum doesn't just hop on here-
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AA comes off as town here. Chickadee's response to this isn't great but I think scum gives slightly more of a fuck hereIn post 248, Arkham Asylum wrote:
And... What?In post 247, Chickadee wrote:If I die today, pay attention to all the flimsy jumps on this wagon.
You've got a wagon on you and you've noticed some "flimsy jumps" but you're absolutely refusing to study those slots a little closer and even try to scumhunt.
Why would we be fools for lynching you, a slot that's done little to scumhunt? Who *should* we lynch, and why?
And I'm trying to understand what it says about your alignment that my fakehammer was pretty blatant and like, 5 posts away from the VC, but you responded like it was legit.
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In post 242, Pine wrote:Noooo Chickadeeeee
These are really weird and really weirdly timed postsIn post 244, Egix96 wrote:inb4 Chickadee is 3*Hated-
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I think AA is the less town of the two big hydras - with FL throwing out the idea that one of the hydras is scum and with the two accounts taking up most of the game real estate I feel like people are gravitating towards scum reading AA without too much good reason
imo both hydras can just be town-
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I think I agree on ChickadeeIn post 353, Binary Star wrote:I don't see the case for Chick as scum and I'm not happy with how the wagon's developed/sat while Chickadee hasn't really done anything under the pressure as far as I can tell.
Like I appreciate the initiative, but the result seems more to have shown the willingness of others to latch on rather than getting a reaction from the original suspect.
Anyway, Dannflor, what are you doing to figure out and solve the game?
-White
re: the bolded
I would appreciate if you voted or or more directly pushed me instead of passive aggressively questioning me in a way that I don't think helps you sort me-
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I did find your later posts considering the wagon better than I found your earlier postsIn post 369, Pine wrote:Except not only did I not join the wagon, I later did a gut check on her and declared a TR on her. It helps to consider the whole context before making broad and flexible statements like "this is weird."
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maybe read the content and decide whether the actual content is scummy or not in and of itself?In post 372, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
Yes, long posts are an easy way to be like, hey I couldn’t be scum, scum wouldn’t put this much effort into a post like this. I get the desire to add content but that was a damn manuscript.In post 371, Pine wrote:
Yeah, this post pings me. That long post was one of the only things I've liked out of AA, and your objection is "too much content?"In post 370, Dr Easy Bake wrote:That big ass Arkham post is way too long, scummy vibes from long posts for sure.-
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OhIn post 380, Binary Star wrote:ZZZX - My experience is that this is typical town play for ZZZX
Does his scum play differ in any major way?-
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I guess it's just something I don't know how to interact with. I guess I'd prefer you to prod at specific grievances in my play or what have you, but if you just overall aren't satisfied with my posts I guess I can't really expect that. It just felt less like trying to engage me and more like... well, shading me, which I guess it was lolIn post 455, Binary Star wrote:DANNFLOR
When this hydra was voting you for pressure, I don't think you were producing the same quality of content that you were when I had just shaded you otherwise.
So it feels more like you're bothered by opposition via posts rather than votes. I'm not really sure what to make of that.
Is it okay to say I'm not a fan of BOTH DEB and AA? They skeeze me out.
-White
Also I'm still town reading AA I think-
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+1In post 468, Pine wrote:
Disagree, I think?In post 467, Chickadee wrote:AA - can you guys keep chatter between each other in your PT?
Having some insight into internal deliberations informs my read on them.
I don't think it makes sense to ask forlesscontent in this game-
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Why do you reckon play style is the only reason people are suspicious of you?In post 466, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Y’all are way too paranoid about my playstyle. Sorry only one of you knows what I’m like (possibly more depending on who’s in the hydras) but that doesn’t mean I’m scum. I’m here to have a good time, so that’s what I’m doing.-
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I'm really scum reading you for the little bits you've actually done or said related to the game. I'm not scum reading you fluffing. If I wanted a policy lynch I would've stayed on ZZZXIn post 471, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
I haven’t really seen any reasoning otherwise. People want to policy lynch me lolIn post 470, Dannflor wrote:
Why do you reckon play style is the only reason people are suspicious of you?In post 466, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Y’all are way too paranoid about my playstyle. Sorry only one of you knows what I’m like (possibly more depending on who’s in the hydras) but that doesn’t mean I’m scum. I’m here to have a good time, so that’s what I’m doing.-
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468 and 479 town pinged me as well as the way he cased DEB.
It was an initial scum read that turned into a gut town read when I started directly interacting with him and he started interacting with the game more.
What do you make of him saying he spotted a town tell from you? Can he usually read you pretty well?Last edited by Jingle on Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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That and idk how busy mastina is but it feels like her presence is sorely missed hereIn post 551, Chemist1422 wrote:I don't like ZZZX repeatedly promising content and coming out with nothing. I'd really appreciate them blowing me away after their V/LA ends if they're town, or else the slot is a strong lynch consideration for me-
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but chemist is town?In post 575, NerfedBuJ wrote:I think chemist lynch would be better though-
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My problem with DEB is I could conceivably see a town player behaving similar to him, but the way he's going about it reads forced, like he's trying just a bit too hard to fulfill the criteria for "the DEB playstyle" instead of just, being himself.In post 597, Chickadee wrote:How do you feel about the fact that DEB seems to be very aware this isn't his scum meta. He's been quick to point it out himself that he wouldn't act this way as scum.