Mini 2087 - Surprise Mafia - Game Over

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: rx Strange Brew

There can be only one.......Drew.

[Doctor Drew]

I mean, I know this isn’t Saturday night

But let’s get this party started

VOTE: NMSA

we’re both no. 2 in that list

There can only be one

-M

Oh no......forgot there were 2 hydras in this game.

[Doctor Drew]

You say that like it’s a bad thing

-M

Yes.....yes I do.

[Doctor Drew]

Well, there's that.

But also, tough enough for me to read one person let alone two.

[Doctor Drew]

Well, there's that.

But also, tough enough for me to read one person let alone two.

I’m like, really really easy to read though

So you don’t need to worry about that here

For example: what’s your read on me right now?

-M

Your seem qenuine, like you aren't trying to bullshit me. Also most hydra heads get defensive when I say I don't like them, you kind of rolled with the punches.

[Doctor Drew]

I am gonna go out on a limb, rvs?

[Doctor Drew]

Everyone else was voting before any interaction

It was just a raw vote or a pithy RVS comment

Then drew and I started talking but instead of commenting on that interaction or making a vote related to it, you just can either in and steeped the main wagon up to that point

-M

I assume you two have played before?

And if you have, is their defensiveness necessarily a scum tell for them?

[Doctor Drew]

We haven’t

I think he’s scum but I can’t explain why because of ongoing games

-M

Ok, don't wanna tread further down that path and break any rules.

@Arcfield, how many games have you completed onsite?

[Doctor Drew]

Nothing substantial in his iso and I just don't really see his questions going anywhere. Attempts at interaction seem more like filler/trying to give off the impression of doing something when in reality its pretend scumhunting.
Tho its just the 3rd page soo everything with the exception of those questions I can understand

But thats probably just being me reading too much into things so ye

Why discredit yourself?

I agree with Dunn....if feel you have something don't necessarily doubt yourself because someone else disagrees, even if it is early. I will say that Cojones being so quick to defend me makes me raise an eyebrow or two.

And in a bit of self defense, there was very little early game randomness so I was just trying to do some stuff to push the game forward.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: ck

I will support this.

VOTE: Cojones

[Doctor Drew]

I like Elastic for now, good vibes

@Dunn, why'd you want me to claim first?

VOTE: ck

I will support this.

VOTE: Cojones

You agree with Omochao's thoughts on CK?

More of their buddying attempts from d1 and their flailing that is going on now.

The 'M' head of the hydra seems inexperienced and is in a panic.

[Doctor Drew]

oh yeah, popcorn to drew

-M

Been on vacation this week, didn't think I would this LA though, my apologies.

And I voted for you Cojones over night.

Who hasn't gone yet?

[Doctor Drew]

Well, there's that.

But also, tough enough for me to read one person let alone two.

I’m like, really really easy to read though

So you don’t need to worry about that here

For example: what’s your read on me right now?

-M

Your seem qenuine, like you aren't trying to bullshit me. Also most hydra heads get defensive when I say I don't like them, you kind of rolled with the punches.

Nothing substantial in his iso and I just don't really see his questions going anywhere. Attempts at interaction seem more like filler/trying to give off the impression of doing something when in reality its pretend scumhunting.
Tho its just the 3rd page soo everything with the exception of those questions I can understand

But thats probably just being me reading too much into things so ye

Why discredit yourself?

I agree with Dunn....if feel you have something don't necessarily doubt yourself because someone else disagrees, even if it is early. I will say that Cojones being so quick to defend me makes me raise an eyebrow or two.

And in a bit of self defense, there was very little early game randomness so I was just trying to do some stuff to push the game forward.

VOTE: ck

I will support this.

VOTE: Cojones

Talk me through your progression on my slot incl the night vote drew

-M

I do regret night voting you, I should have just not voted at all, BUT I did vote you because it appeared to me you were buddying me.

As far as my vote today on you, you may point to every wiki about flailing you want, but all this points to scum imo.

[Doctor Drew]

Why should you have not voted? Why are you unhappy with having night voted me if you now think I’m scum?

Also, go on

-M

I wasn't super confident in my read of you going into the night, the better play would have just not voting instead of risking killing someone who I only had an iffy scum read on.

But, as stated, your activity today strengthened my scum read on you.

[Doctor Drew]

oh yeah, popcorn to drew

-M

Been on vacation this week, didn't think I would this LA though, my apologies.

And I voted for you Cojones over night.

Who hasn't gone yet?

Also popcorn to someone

Momo....make it so.

[Doctor Drew]

I feel like CC not really posting at all is scum indicative. I might end up voting there tbh

I think this hydra has been clearly the most scummy.....and I not just saying this because I dislike hydras haha.

[Doctor Drew]

Eh may as well VOTE: dr drew
@dr drew what made you change your mind between CK being genuine vs trying to pocket you?

Don't you think it is possible I wanted the hydra to trust me?

Maybe I wasn't being exactly genuine as well

And like I said, the pocketing was a weak scum tell, and for that I regretted voting the hydra N1. But their actions today made that weak scum tell into a strong scum tell.

[Doctor Drew]

but I figured arcfield would be on the chopping block at night

Hold on, I went through your iso Voyc. Please explain this quote from you.

[Doctor Drew]

I didn't vote last night

I had no idea that the night had even started because I hadn't logged on to the site in that entire time

Y'all can wagon me but that's the truth

I'm town, and that's the truth as well

After I'm dead, lynch CK

I would prefer to do it today if I'm being honest.

[Doctor Drew]

Do what should I know? (Also, Hi Sky )

Games been slow, nks made no sense, and CK is scum.

There, all caught up.

[Doctor Drew]

OK, 2 things: Why is CK scum? And assuming they are; why can't momo be their p?

Pocketing attempt of me D1, thinking Rx is scum for some reason I and most don't get, and generally flailing today.

And when called out for bailing on the game, blamed it on the slowness of the game(which, that one could be a bit more legit).

As far as Momo, don't know their meta......but in this particular game i cant say that lurking is a scum tell.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, how rude of me.

Welcome to the game Almost.

[Doctor Drew]

Before I ISO CK (81 posts is going to take considerably longer that 7 ), I wonder why "scum" would be this active in a dead game? They're just 8 posts short of the sum of the 3 next slots combined.

P-edit: Bailing??? 81 posts and they were "bailing"?? I'd hate to see their hyper-posting mode then (unless I misunderstand what you're saying)

P-edit 2: Thanks

They were probably the most active player.....and then they weren't. Seemed like quite the change.

[Doctor Drew]

Actually you know, I quick iso of pastimes for CK say they became less active today(with one almost 2 day bit of inactivity), but as I said it was aligned with the stagnation of this game.

Probably more a null tell tbh.

[Doctor Drew]

Post edit: not familiar with either head of the rx hydra.....so could be why I don't see it.

[Doctor Drew]

Everyone had the option to vote for one person to be lynched in addition to the Mafia NK.

[Doctor Drew]

@Dr Drew:
Um... so you don;t think that hammer was scummy? I mean, knowing FL

it is NAI

, but people who don't know him almost always scum read that move. Why don't you?

Well, not exactly town reading them.

It is just, outside a newbie game, can't see scum doing that. In my experience it is the reaction to it that is more telling.

Tbh, that whole wagon was a wtf. I was watching it like I was missing something.

If you can make a case on them that makes sense, I am listening.

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry, Dr Drew. If this flips green you van always blame it on the monkey. My reasoning is simple: FL, Sky & Creature all implied they have experience with Mel, and they all seem to be TRing the slot.

Now 2 of them plus Omo (my strongest TR currently) are voting momo (who obviously isn't doing much anyway).

VOTE: momo

P-edit: Oh, no. You misunderstood. I do NOT SR FL for that lol!hammer, but that's because I know FL well enough. People who do NOT know him usually DO scum read that.

Meh, not gonna necessarily put the onus on you, not sure you are so worried about that outcome.

And listen, if people have more experience with playing with each other I am all ears on the meta.

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry, Dr Drew. If this flips green you van always blame it on the monkey. My reasoning is simple: FL, Sky & Creature all implied they have experience with Mel, and they all seem to be TRing the slot.

Now 2 of them plus Omo (my strongest TR currently) are voting momo (who obviously isn't doing much anyway).

VOTE: momo

P-edit: Oh, no. You misunderstood. I do NOT SR FL for that lol!hammer, but that's because I know FL well enough. People who do NOT know him usually DO scum read that.

Meh, not gonna necessarily put the onus on you, not sure you are so worried about that outcome.

And listen, if people have more experience with playing with each other I am all ears on the meta.

*not sure why.....stupid fingers.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, that's a lynch......momo care to reveal?

[Doctor Drew]

Drew is entirely scum here

-M

Hmm?

[Doctor Drew]

Just checking in real quick, be back in a bit with.....stuff.

[Doctor Drew]

You think either of us are putting enough effort in this game to be scum?

Pretty sure you put the effort necessary for each game.

This game seems to require a pretty low effort for wolves.

Yes, but we’re not, so do better.

This feels scum V town, or possibly even scum V scum. Either way I don't think both are town.

If we're doing blocks I feel confident with CK/Voyc/and either RX or Creature.

Almost50 would be most most solid town read.

[Doctor Drew]

So we agree that the lynchpool is in CK/Voyc @Dr Drew & @Rx?

@Dr Drew: I am not in total comprehension why you suspect Rx here. Creature I understand, but Rx can't be scum with Voyc at this point, can they?

Probably right about that, I honestly wasn't even thinking scum team per se.....just who seemed the scumiest.

I suspected RX, and it isn't a strong scum read, but I never liked when people bring up self meta since that can be manipulated easily.

But ya, RX and Voyc on same team is unlikely, so I would heavily lean Creature over RC.

[Doctor Drew]

RC=RX

Stupid sexy flanders......err, stupid phone auto correct.

Pre Edit: I have a feeling they are likely scum buddies.

[Doctor Drew]

RX, your hydra is Nancy Drew(no relation) and who?

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: And ya, briefly played with Creature but never with anyone else, so as far as meta goes I would defer to you people.

It was more a general meta thing.

Pre Edit: OK thank you

[Doctor Drew]

Funny story, another game I played recently a couple people thought I was a Nancy Drew alt.

[Doctor Drew]

Funny story, another game I played recently a couple people thought I was a Nancy Drew alt.

Spoiler:

You, me and MaryJoLisa are all the same person. Shhhhhh . . .

I don't know who that is haha.

In have been gone too long, no familiar faces

[Doctor Drew]

Probably should make that my alt here lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Probably should make that my alt here lol.

My signature I mean.

Though making that my alt would be funny as well.

[Doctor Drew]

I know we were popcorning, but for the sake of discussion......who did you empower voyc?

[Doctor Drew]

Little bit of a prod dodge.

Been busy all day and probably won't get back until tomorrow, possibly later tonight.

[Doctor Drew]

What's the VC at? I am gonna vote CK but I wanna make sure we aren't at L-1 already.

Someone smarter than me do math stuffs.

[Doctor Drew]

Can we at least finish claiming first? It might not be much at this point, since it looks like nobody empowered Omochao anyway (I thought about it, but decided scum would expect that since I said he was my top TR, so I empowered Rx thinking they may go for Nancy as a second choice).

If nobody empowered Omo then the claiming is useless, but let's at least make sure that's the case.

Unclaimed: Dr Drew/Dunn/CK

Empowered:
Dunn (2)
Sky (2)
Rx (1)

Could have sworn I already said I empowered you.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: CK

Was just gonna pop in to say I will be more active tomorrow.

But, this will do. Wanted to vote them but was fearful of another quick hammer, me thinks with this activity I will not have to worry about that.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok.....wrong about that quick lynch I guess.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok.....wrong about that quick lynch I guess.

I honestly don’t see how?

There are 8 players. I know we’re town, so who isn’t out of Dunn, A50, Sky and you?

Lol....no I mean I was wrong about no one quick hammering.

And I think you know who I believe to be scum.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok.....wrong about that quick lynch I guess.

I honestly don’t see how?

There are 8 players. I know we’re town, so who isn’t out of Dunn, A50, Sky and you?

Lol....no I mean I was wrong about no one quick hammering.

And I think you know who I believe to be scum.

Oh sorry then. Dunn was going to but then CK confirmed himself scum and ironically spewed everyone else town. That’s like the best part.

There is much WIFOM with NK......I am with you but not prepared to start high fiving everyone.

I don't like that scum knows the surprise.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok.....wrong about that quick lynch I guess.

I honestly don’t see how?

There are 8 players. I know we’re town, so who isn’t out of Dunn, A50, Sky and you?

Lol....no I mean I was wrong about no one quick hammering.

And I think you know who I believe to be scum.

Oh sorry then. Dunn was going to but then CK confirmed himself scum and ironically spewed everyone else town. That’s like the best part.

There is much WIFOM with NK......I am with you but not prepared to start high fiving everyone.

I don't like that scum knows the surprise.

That’s what we all signed up for.

Hello Nancy haha.

[Doctor Drew]

Most likely I'll be nightkilled tonight

My legacy will be Menalque and Skygazer town and tomorrow will be 50/50

Is this just WIFOM or could Creature be possibly hinting at a town vig mechanic?

Would he, as scum, know of said mechanic?

[Doctor Drew]

Most likely I'll be nightkilled tonight

My legacy will be Menalque and Skygazer town and tomorrow will be 50/50

Is this just WIFOM or could Creature be possibly hinting at a town vig mechanic?

Would he, as scum, know of said mechanic?

Role PMs:
MAFIOSO
Welcome to Mini 2087: Surprise Mafia, Player, you are a Mafioso

Your partners are Player and Player.

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
You can talk to your partners in the Mafia PT at any time.
Every Night, the Mafia may make the factional kill on any town player.

Every Night, you will be informed of what the event for the next Night will be. You will be informed of what the Night 1 event will be in pregame.

Win condition:
You win when all Town aligned players are dead and at least one Mafia aligned player is alive or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Please confirm by replying to this role PM with your alignment.

So yes. That’s why CK’s push on Archfield was so suspicious and why Sky was completely wrong to be suspicious of Dunn for not dying despite being empowered.

Ahh gotcha.

Also, hello Nancy again haha.

And, from a personal standpoint, there is a part of me hopes that both hydras are scum.

[Doctor Drew]

*part of me that hopes

[Doctor Drew]

*part of me that hopes

Why, because of your hydra hate? You’re going to be disappointed in that case.

Ya it is total hydra hate, but the fact that one of yous is scum satisfies me.

Added bonus was that I was on the ground floor as them as scum.

Can't hate your hydra too much as well, you are a fellow Drew after all.

[Doctor Drew]

Thank you mod for the exciting game.

Sorry, Nancy. Please don;t hate my guts. <3
Also, I apologize to Doctor Drew for the kill.

GG all (and the most fun part is when I hammer using FL's trademark phrase).

You sonuva bitch, I trusted you!

Gg to mafia, you deserved it.

[Doctor Drew]

Thank you mod for the exciting game.

Sorry, Nancy. Please don;t hate my guts. <3
Also, I apologize to Doctor Drew for the kill.

GG all (and the most fun part is when I hammer using FL's trademark phrase).

You sonuva bitch, I trusted you!

Gg to mafia, you deserved it.

Also, I was town reading you hardcore.......why kill me?