Mini 2089: Zero Escape Mafia: The Nonary Game
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Slow game so far.
So, out of curiosity, do the people who asked about this want to come forward?
In post 2, funkybike1 wrote:In addition, since multiple people have asked: Flavor is not based on one specific Zero Escape game, and canon alignment is not necessarily indicative of game alignment. The terms "Town" and "Mafia" are for game purposes only.-
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I'm also interested in hearing why you're voting me.In post 33, MariaR wrote:VOTE: NacL
Serious vote
this games early game is pretty trash. We need to get some votes on here.
I don't really think 11 is quite the same thing, though I also sort of agree with your reasoning on Voyc. Not going to vote her yet, of course.In post 34, Dunnstral wrote:
I said it was 11, is that close enough?In post 26, NaCl wrote:Dunnstral, why didn't you say it was L-1 when you made your vote?
Voyc was the 2nd person to vote Nitro but when it reached L-1 they switched their vote to Shiro for no reason which is interesting. Possible partner interaction where Voyc was bussing a bit early. They're the one who did the scummy thing so I'll vote them
VOTE: Voyc
I've played all 3 games.In post 35, ClearlyClarity wrote:Anyone here played the series?-
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I've got one for you now. And Nitronerd as well. How do you feel about where your vote is right now?In post 30, ponchomonkey wrote:any questions for me?-
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Why didn't you mention it when while you were unvoting?In post 41, Voyc wrote:
I didn't really like the threat of a quickhammer hanging aroundIn post 34, Dunnstral wrote:Voyc was the 2nd person to vote Nitro but when it reached L-1 they switched their vote to Shiro for no reason which is interesting. Possible partner interaction where Voyc was bussing a bit early. They're the one who did the scummy thing so I'll vote them
But fair
@CC,
I only really know the first one, but I've been meaning to get Virtue's Last Reward for a while now
Ew, that's a bad reason. VOTE: PonchoMonkey
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Do you mean Voyc and Dunn together? I don't think that's likely, given how Dunn was the one to vote on Voyc and then she soon got put up to L-1 right after.In post 56, northsidegal wrote:clearly town, maria town, dunn scum, voyc scum, nitronerd third party-
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I'm not actually taking it seriously. I think she's just trying to move things along and get things going. And why would I need to look like I was doing things? There's plenty of people who don't look like they're doing that, I could blend in just fine.In post 64, ponchomonkey wrote:
What do you think of Maria's reason, then?In post 48, NaCl wrote:Ew, that's a bad reason
Part of it for me was that your questions gave me the impression that you were looking more to look like you were doing things than to actually move anything forward. It's not a strong read, but it's more of one than I had on Voyc
What? I don't find that to be likely at all.In post 67, ponchomonkey wrote:
Eh, I did too. Given the flavor of the game it's pretty easy for me to imagine them being part of some mechanic. I find the third-party theory plausible enough. Only real hangup is wondering how they were supposed to be able to pass off making everyone give them a random number as normal behavior, from a game-design perspectiveIn post 62, Shiro wrote:
I find it shocking you actually thought the numbers had any meanin gin the first placeIn post 49, ClearlyClarity wrote:Nitro, are you going to do anything with those numbers or are you going to continue playing LAMIST?-
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I don't think they're well-established, but I'd say we're out of RVS...and we'd better be, with about 2 days left.In post 71, NitroNerd wrote:I feel like the game is still in an RVS state, don't feel like voting reasons have been effectively established
Nitronerd, how do you feel about a Voyc lynch? I'd initially said Dunn's reason was valid, but looking back, I was a bit impulsive, it seems less likely now. Anyways, your vote is still there, could you tell me if you're comfortable with that?-
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I'll hammer if we can't get something else, just for the sake of getting a lynch through. I don't really feel great about it, but at this point it would wind up like that for most lynches, really.
Nitronerd is also an okay lynch with me.
ClearlyClarity seems townish to me from 49, but apart from that her posting's just kind of meh. I'm not really in favour of that lynch though.-
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Then why aren't you voting, ClearlyClarity?
Although it seems a bit unlikely that both scum would replace out (or at least not that it would mean anything to alignment). In my mind, the first day didn't go so well. Or at the very least I didn't get much of a good read on most people.
I don't really like Shiro's reason for saying I'm town but Dunn's probably town. Still, Nitronerd's slot is worse.
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Ew, this lynchpool doesn't mean anything. That's half the game.In post 108, ClearlyClarity wrote:
Adding MariaR to thisIn post 93, ClearlyClarity wrote:I've narrowed it down to {Doctor Drew, Shiro, Billy Pilgrim} for reasons.
I think a massclaim later in the day is in order.-
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I'm bringing this up again because it may be relevant.In post 13, NaCl wrote:Slow game so far.
So, out of curiosity, do the people who asked about this want to come forward?
In post 2, funkybike1 wrote:In addition, since multiple people have asked: Flavor is not based on one specific Zero Escape game, and canon alignment is not necessarily indicative of game alignment. The terms "Town" and "Mafia" are for game purposes only.
MariaR, did you happen to discuss this in your neighbourhood PT? Also, have you played the Zero Escape games before?-
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Yeah, the name's fine.In post 122, Doctor Drew wrote:Nacl, just gonna call you Salty from now on, just to be clear.
But...
What do you think of Clearlys posts today?
I agree with the things that she's saying, I just don't like the way that she's saying it. But she's probably town.
Doctor Drew, do you think there's scum on the Voyc lynch? If so, who?-
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@Doctor DrewIn post 125, NaCl wrote: Doctor Drew, do you think there's scum on the Voyc lynch? If so, who?-
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Why do you think it's not Nitro/Billy?In post 135, Doctor Drew wrote:
Oops sorry about forgetting about this.In post 134, NaCl wrote:@Doctor DrewIn post 125, NaCl wrote: Doctor Drew, do you think there's scum on the Voyc lynch? If so, who?
Considering the people who aren't on the wagon(my previous incarnation, Maria, and Clearly(who is clearly scum(heh))).
Yes, I would say one scum was on the wagon, don't think it is Nitro.....not sure who would be scum on the wagon at this moment tbh.-
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Depends on when it was given. If she was just running out the clock to suddenly spring a doctor claim when there's no time to get another lynch, yes I would have hammered. That's super sketchy.In post 139, Dunnstral wrote:
A doctor claim wouldn't have stopped you from lynching?In post 121, NaCl wrote:I gave intent several hours before the actual hammer post. Voyc didn't say her role. Even if she did, I don't know if that would have stopped me.-
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In post 142, Doctor Drew wrote:
And the more I think on it I really don't like Billy sheeping my vote so quickly. Seems a bit forced, and OMGUS.
VOTE: Billy
Ugh, I shouldn't post first things in the morning after waking up, I completely missed this.In post 143, NaCl wrote:VOTE: DoctorDrew
You don't just naked vote change to Billy and put him to L-1 without making some kind of explanation on him. I'm trying to see how you're thinking of him compared to Shiro, Dunnstral, etc. How do you go from "nothing stood out" to voting him without an explanation?
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Still, could you talk a bit about Shiro and what you think of her? Because I generally agree with her statement that there was scum on the wagon, I just don't know if it was Billy.-
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Hey, Shiro, why do you think Dunnstral is town? I know that from your point of view that makes you focus on Billy, but I didn't really see the explanation on why you thought Dunnstral was town.
Also, Dunnstral, do you have the same kind of townread on Shiro?
Doctor Drew, do you have any townreads on people aside from me?-
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I really don't...I just think one of you is scum but now I'm not even that sure.In post 162, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Aside from the vote on Voyc what makes you think Shiro is scum?
Oh no, I think I know exactly what you're talking about. And that might make you town then...and possibly also make Billy town. Okay, let's try something else. Do you think MariaR is scum? I'm not sure if you've noticed this one thing with the setup. But if you're not scum she probably is.In post 163, Shiro wrote:
I just kinda doIn post 158, NaCl wrote:Hey, Shiro, why do you think Dunnstral is town? I know that from your point of view that makes you focus on Billy, but I didn't really see the explanation on why you thought Dunnstral was town.
Also, Dunnstral, do you have the same kind of townread on Shiro?
Doctor Drew, do you have any townreads on people aside from me?-
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I'm not sure. Because I'd also been townreading her (MariaR) previously. But there's something in the setup I'd rather not say that makes me think one of Shiro and MariaR is scum. The other issue is that when I look at it, I can't possibly see Shiro as a scum team with anyone based on her interactions with the rest. The only possible person I could see Shiro as scum with is MariaR...which again, leads me to be more interested in lynching MariaR.
At this point I'm not really convinced about Shiro. So I'm sort of preferring MariaR, second choice being Billy Pilgrim. But we don't have much time.
Would be really nice if someone else would talk, really. Dunnstral, do you have the same kind of read on Shiro that she has on you?
Billy, who's scum?-
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Billy Pilgrim
Shiro, I stuck around a bit longer on your wagon because I was kind of hoping to get a bit more information out of you but now I'm worried that scum might hammer. It's hard to tell if you're the role I think you are but I'm going to trust that you know what you're doing. I would kind of like a flavour claim but I don't really think it would tell me anything on it's own.
I would prefer a MariaR lynch but Billy is okay. I was worried about Drew+MariaR earlier but I don't see that as a possible team now.
Hey, Dunnstral, have you played Virtue's Last Reward? And also, do you have a townread on Shiro for similar reasons that she gave for hers on you?-
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I really want to get some sort of signal from Shiro that I'm on the right track. Or on the wrong one. And I guess it's individually safer not to flavour claim, but I'm not sure if scum will notice. After all both you and Billy haven't noticed what I'm talking about.
The issue is that I can't tell if Shiro doesn't know what I'm talking about because I'm completely out of my mind, or that I'm right but she's not picking up the clues that I hope I'm sending.-
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Anyways, I'm kind of okay with lynching this spot. But I'm really worried that I'm going to be NK'd afterwards, so I'm going to get my thoughts out.
Mostly sure that Billy is scum. I think his partner is most likely MariaR. Shiro's out because of her push on him and Drew's probably town.
However, if Billy is town, then it's ClearlyClarity and someone else. Dunnstral or Shiro. Still not Drew, and probably not MariaR.
Drew, I think your lynchpool is very correct if we're wrong on this and make sure you don't lose sight of it if I'm NK'd.-
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No, I still sort of think we should go with this. But after thinking about things again, Clearly's my second strongest scum read (independent of Billy). If he flips town, 100% lynch Clearly.In post 201, Doctor Drew wrote:Hmm......starting to think we shouldn't lynch Billy.
Salty, would love to go back to Shiro, but can do Clearly.
Actually, I'm fine not discussing flavour (but I think it is role-related with Seven being a cop claim and Carlos being a doctor, as well as MariaR's hinted claim). Anyways, I didn't quite understand. You do have a townread on Shiro, right? I just wanted to confirm that.In post 203, Dunnstral wrote:
I've seen some of virtue's last rewardIn post 180, NaCl wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Billy Pilgrim
Shiro, I stuck around a bit longer on your wagon because I was kind of hoping to get a bit more information out of you but now I'm worried that scum might hammer. It's hard to tell if you're the role I think you are but I'm going to trust that you know what you're doing. I would kind of like a flavour claim but I don't really think it would tell me anything on it's own.
I would prefer a MariaR lynch but Billy is okay. I was worried about Drew+MariaR earlier but I don't see that as a possible team now.
Hey, Dunnstral, have you played Virtue's Last Reward? And also, do you have a townread on Shiro for similar reasons that she gave for hers on you?
I didn't see anything flavor-related for Shiro, no - and any character can be any alignment anyway-
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Okay...well, this changes things. But you're still probably town and Billy's scum. I'm staying on this lynch.In post 205, Shiro wrote:Nacl you are probably not on the right track.-
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Okay, well, that worked. GG everyone.
Sorry I confused people from my last few posts. I guess I didn't quite get the message across.
CC had claimed to me N1 that she was cop, but I didn't KNOW her role or alignment, though I believed her.
What I was trying to do was get a situation where if Billy was scum, I'd eat the NK so she could keep investigating and out her results tomorrow, and if Billy was the real cop, it would draw attention to her being my neighbour and you could lynch her afterwards. I guess I just wound up confusing people, though...but it all worked out in the end.-
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Well, it was only 9p. And the setup info said it was either 7/2/0 or 6/2/1.
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