Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[Albert B. Rampage]

This is a very exciting setup

I have many thoughts about mech-speculation.

Would you guys like to hear them or should we just begin executing people?

Let's hear it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Bandits and raiders = good

Doctors = evil

[Albert B. Rampage]

In case you are wondering, I am not a bandit or a raider.

I am a looter.

And soon to be a doctor killer.

This is your only warning, medical degree earning scumbags.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Looks like a pharmacist with a stethoscope to me, you're good!

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think everyone should claim what they chose to do last night, or at the very least if they chose to explore or not

VOTE: SirCakez

~ Games

explored

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Fun and games

Asks for massclaim and for others to claim actions while not starting to do it himself. What are your motivations?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wouldnt we want to try to coordinate that so we dont have 7 people trying to do that at the same time?

I feel like you're reaching.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's a chance of finding a lab, a permanent room that becomes public, or a non-permanent room, in which you can either interact with it one-time (like a trap room) or find an item (you won't be told what room it is in).

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mod: If a doctor explores and finds a lab, will that be made public the next day?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think ABR always picks himself to be voice because he doesn't like having to rely on the competence of others, plus he has the stubbornness to get his way if someone disagreed.

You don't know me at all and are dead wrong about this.

That's honestly kinda likely to happen if we dont coordinate. Maybe not 7, but for sure more people than we need

And i feel like you're trying to not understand my point and are pushing us for spurious reasons

Do u have a reason why we shouldnt just send the ~2 most knowledgeable people to each room?

Town doesn't know what countermeasures are in place by Doctors, so trying to plan with less information is generally a bad idea.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR: am I wrong in my impression that you would want to be the scum role that would need to survive, the idea that you would be able to get your way, or both?

The former. The latter depends on the rest of the scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Interesting. Are you aware of why scum you wants me to come to the opposite conclusion?

???

[Albert B. Rampage]

UNVOTE: Fun and Games

At least they're doing stuff.

VOTE: Beeboy

link to VC on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: ydrasse

join sircakez

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wagons are good.

Make another.

VOTE: Fun and Games
Okay

FOS: Gamma

[Albert B. Rampage]

you want me to be honest I don't see myself voting Cakez day 1 either.

Welcome to the game

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wagons are good.

Make another.

VOTE: Fun and Games
Okay

FOS: Gamma

y are you fos'ing gamma here?

~ games

He is being lazy scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm putting you on notice Gamma. I rather go after your less obvious scumbuddies first.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm disliking ABR a lot but I also have totally goofed on a sure SR on ABR before :/

Yeah... I wouldn't have vigged you if you weren't tunneling so hard on me and we would have won

[Albert B. Rampage]

Not Voting GeorgeBailey, beeboy, CreativeMod1

Time to commit to a vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

V OTECOUNT 1.010
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	Pine	EL-6	3	3	3	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	Fun and Games, Ydrasse, Gamma Emerald	EL-4	2	3	3	SirCakez
GeorgeBailey	None	EL-7	3	3	4	GeorgeBailey
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	SirCakez	EL-6	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Pine	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Pine
Bingle	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	1	Nosferatu
DoctorPepper	None	EL-7	3	3	3	DoctorPepper
PenguinPower	None	EL-7	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	DoctorPepper	EL-6	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Ydrasse	Bingle, PenguinPower, Albert B. Rampage, Nosferatu	EL-3	3	3	3	Ydrasse
beeboy	None	EL-7	3	3	3	beeboy
Not Voting	GeorgeBailey, beeboy, CreativeMod1
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-09-27 23:16:10)
Notes: DoctorPepper is V/LA until Sept 25 pagetops: Lilith 4 | penguin 5 | ABR 1 | gamma 1 | cm1 1

Mod: GeorgeBailey is voting Ydrasse.

[Albert B. Rampage]

gonna move our vote here tho:

VOTE: georgebailey

Tell me more, tell me more.

Read on us is icky
Vote on ydrasse is super icky

~ games

Fun and Games taking pressure off of Sircakez at the point Ydrasse is gaining steam points to a possible connection between the two.

You've done things I think might be town.

Me or my other head?

Also sircakez is doing scummy things but i'm not sure it makes him scum? I'm kinda vacillating on this one back and forth

~ games

I'm on your wagon lol

Why is beeboy the leading wagon and i dont get why bingle is voting ydrasse and not on sircakez

~ games

Wishy washy or hydra not all on same page? How many players are you, two? What does each believe, can you separate your reads individually for us to examine? Thanks

[Albert B. Rampage]

You shouldn't vote me, I'm town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You shouldn't vote me, I'm town.

yeah the town doctor

bulletproof PGO doctor

[Albert B. Rampage]

The claim doesn't change much for me. I won't change my vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think no-lynch is bad in this setup?

We can lynch at night basically.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Offense is better than defense. If we’re in a position where we need to play whack a mole with labs we’re already losing. First rule of game theory, don’t let the opponent set the pace for the game.

This is exactly it. Why bother with the labs? We can treat the night as a second lynch and all gang up on someone. If we coordinate and strike true, we could wrap this up fairly quickly.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My top two suspects are Ydrasse and Gamma atm. Fun and Games might be scum too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I got roleblocked from interacting with the gym.

Did anyone try to destroy a lab?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can someone do a running tally of who went where after everyone claims their actions?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have some thoughts about the usage of the pigeon, but would be interested in why you think sending it to not you is scummy.

Is this addressed to me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I mean. We can win only by eliminating doctors. Gym or no gym.

No, fuck anyone trying to mandate night actions

Who are you talking to Gamma?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright this just got interesting. I'm not interested in beeboy, if he's scum why would he limit his vote to only a hammer, it makes no sense. And it would be too penalizing for a scum to have that handicap. Beeboy is town.

VOTE: Bingle

[Albert B. Rampage]

I confused George with Beeboy. Similar posting styles...

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Beeboy

[Albert B. Rampage]

So I have an ability that let’s me “activate or destroy a lab without using a night action”. Now, why would my role say activate when I’m Town? My guess is scum has the same power on one of them. Since this action still requires a knowledge roll, I’m inclined to suspect anyone with elevated knowledge during N1, as they would have probably done so in order to be able to activate labs easier. The only person alive during N1 with increased knowledge was Pine. So I am going to
VOTE: Pine
And Pine was the consensus scumread I was talking about.

Good point. You have my vote.

VOTE: Pine

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pine needs to explain his knowledge +1.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What scares me in this game is I don't have any town reads. Someone help.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I just want to commit atrocious acts of violence... somebody point me to a doctor who needs head bashing...

[Albert B. Rampage]

How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: abr, for emphasis

i don't particularly agree with my other head on town!pine

~skitter

Emphasis on what? You've been voting me all day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?

Based on the fact that he lost speed, visited library and 2 labs were activated - not very likely.

I want to examine this question more closely. Where did scum use their knowledge modifier N2? How do you know if Gamma really visited the library, rather than giving himself the +1 knowledge right before activating a lab?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have absolutely no intention to vote him, but his claimed role is supposedly worded pretty strangely. We also theoretically had a 60% chance of destroying the N0 lab if both he and I attacked it and did not.

Why didn't Gamma attempt to destroy the lab?

[Albert B. Rampage]

If Pine flips town, Gamma should be scum, as it fits into how scum would strategically use their knowledge modifier N0 and N1. But Pine hasn't done anything day 2 that makes me think that he's town or that he will even be useful to gamesolving later on.

[Albert B. Rampage]

a) i feel like you could be (significantly) townier
b) you're asking silly questions and saying silly things (you really have no townreads ?)
c) i've been trying to get a reaction out of you

~ skitter

@abr

Keep in mind this is my first game back after a hiatus, so what you're interpreting as scummy may just be me taking it easy.

How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?

Based on the fact that he lost speed, visited library and 2 labs were activated - not very likely.

I want to examine this question more closely. Where did scum use their knowledge modifier N2? How do you know if Gamma really visited the library, rather than giving himself the +1 knowledge right before activating a lab?

Who the fuck said scum have a +1 knowledge modifier?

Lilith. Want me to quote? Hold on...

DOCTORS have a factional operation ability. Each night, they can select one player to operate on and increase or decrease that player's Knowledge by 1.

It is possible for other factional abilities to exist.

Looks like they have abilities town doesn't know about.

abr i've been trying to engage with you for a while now but i feel like you're not responding to me ...

~ skitter

You made several posts while I wasn't here and then complained I wasn't getting back to you.

What's your top 3 scumreads?

ABR has pushed me at times. And I specifically thought his devil-may-care attitude was towny, as he seemed like he wanted to solve the game over look towny, which is definitely a town MO. After seeing him taking a few cheap shots though, that evaluation had lost its sensibility. You seem to be saying ABR has been silent, is that in general or compared to his normal play, because if it's the former I don't fully agree.

I made a few circumstantial pushes on you to see what would shake out, and I didn't find anything to make me think you're more likely scum than Pine. Due to how events played out, I'm guessing that eliminating Pine will give us more information on the game state.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Guys tell me who to attack tonight. My ability is wasted if I don't use it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I might try to go to the gym again actually. In my city, they are closing all gyms down starting Thursday because of the pandemic. :/

[Albert B. Rampage]

Premise: multiple people are considering attacking someone at night.

Because there are no idle labs and Pine is one of the few people who can actually destroy already activated ones, it could be a good idea to attack Pine at night and lynch someone else. Considering someone has a scumlean who isn't Gamma/ Nos.

We almost have enough votes for Pine. We can just lynch him. Who would you attack if you were me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not reading everything. What do you want to know?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I understand your suspicion of Johnny. It's a good catch

link to VC on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not reading everything. What do you want to know?

In general i'm trying to sort you.

We can start with the specifics of why you think we should be lynching pine rn, that would help.

Also i really, really, dislike you saying that we can just lynch pine cuz there's nearly enough votes for him when a) i have no idea why you're scumreading him and b) you're ignoring iks's reasoning that since he has a high knowledge score, that might be a bad reason to vote him out rn

Would you vote johnny?

~ skitter

a) I have a vague meta headcannon case on Pine. He's usually useless Day 1, but he's done nothing here on Day 2 either.

b) it's a good point.

Let me iso Johnny. He came in like a hurricane and I thought his entrance wasn't trying to hide behind anything, but the knowledge thing gave me serious pause.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar

[Albert B. Rampage]

Get better Pine.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Just taught nosferatu. I'd suggest giving Nos and Gamma the pigeon so they can coordinate attacking labs but that's just me

Why Nos?

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Pine

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will probably attack Fun and Games tonight.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's get a hammer going. I'm ready.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All my games are updated in my wiki.

Voting me is counter-productive to me solving you. My power is my night time attack. If I find a weapon it becomes even more powerful. I could probably 1-shot some of you with good dice rolls. I plan on solving this game alone and doing what's necessary to win. You're either with me or against me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Cakez tunneled me in one of our games and I vigged him. We were both town. I had all the scum pegged and we were going to lynch them all but the scum had a win condition that didn't require having majority.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm a vig, better than even chances to one-shot a 3-3-3 player, if I get a weapon it becomes almost certain to one-shot them unless they roll perfectly.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Class is NAI but mine is called "warrior"

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: abr

Why?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Bingle what do you think about ... well... anything? Is anyone scummy? Or town? You've posted a lot but I can't call anything you believe to mind

P: WHAT if we don't do one today we should do iksy

Yes we can. For sure one or two scum are voting me. I will decide what to do about it soon. Their time will come.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There is nothing alignment indicative in me describing the mechanic of my attack.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's talk potential night targets ally. I don't wanna narrow it down too much, because I don't want to risk a block or something, but I don't wanna get blindsided either.

Also, did you attack someone yesterday?

Like I've been saying all day, I'm taking suggestions. It's a waste if I use my attack on someone who everyone agrees is scum and we will lynch anyway.

No, I went to the gym so I could explore and find a weapon + attack tonight.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think he's town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm a vig, better than even chances to one-shot a 3-3-3 player, if I get a weapon it becomes almost certain to one-shot them unless they roll perfectly.

I'm curious about this because you either need a ton of dice or some flat amount of damage dealt in order to ensure such a thing

I rather not answer in case scum have a counter.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There is nothing alignment indicative in me describing the mechanic of my attack.

The reason I wanted to know is because the scum have a factional attack that any of them could use.

Spoiler:

DOCTORS do not have a factional nightkill. Instead, DOCTORS have an additional factional attack they can use once per Night (in addition to their personal actions) by nominating one of the DOCTORS to perform the attack. The attack counts as an additional action for that DOCTOR and the nominated DOCTOR can use any stat modifications, abilities, etc. in their possession on this attack in addition to any personal attacks made.

If you are a powered attacker or w/e - it would make sense for you to be the one using the cloaked scum factional attack and it would not make sense for you to reveal it.

Furthermore because we know the scum factional attacker did damage to Gamma and it was only 1 point of damage - it would rule you out as the attacker if your special ability is some kind of damage multiplier.

Secondly Gamma knows the roll info of the scum attacker - so if you have some kind of +dice or +roll advantage built into your attack, Gamma's knowledge might also rule you out as the attacker in question if the scum roll was low etc.

Well thought out. Kudos.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I wouldn't take that to the bank.

[Albert B. Rampage]

mod: can we replace Pine? We've had no activity for 96 hours

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: creativemod

[Albert B. Rampage]

I discarded creative mod for the pigeon thing and then sort of forgot about him but his posts don't inspire me as much after I look at them.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You are thinking like this is a normal game.

Scum only need 1 scum in this game. With 4 labs, they endgame 4 players if the godfather is alive.

[Albert B. Rampage]

2) The number of activated LABS is equal to or greater than the number of remaining TEST SUBJECTS, and the Voice (leader of the DOCTORS) is still alive, or

This has a big impact on scum strategy.

link to VC on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ah OK.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Albert B. Rampage]

01. Gamma Emerald* = probably town
02. SirCakez = town
04. CreativeMod1* = town
05. clidd Albert B. Rampage = town
08. Nosferatu* = town

PoE:

06. Pine
07. Bingle
09. I Keep Siteflaking
10. PenguinPower*
11. Fun and Games
12. Ydrasse
13. JohnnyFarrar

I think Bingle is more town than scum. Everyone is afraid of Fun and Games so I'll put a pin on it.

Ydrasse/Johnny/Pine/IKSF/Penguin is my pool.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I also think it's objectively optimal to start killing off people in the PoE at night before scum activate more labs for the reasons I outlined at the top of the page.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Penguin has not posted content in 7 days

[Albert B. Rampage]

Maybe, but when he was posting it was transparently town, and he had some vla in between

Debatable

[Albert B. Rampage]

btw I have a question for the class.

Who, if town, do you think has the worst reads?

Probably me but I'm trying.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ydrasse then

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wait why is everyone afraid of us?

I very much want an answer to this ^

Sigh

@ abr

You make good posts so people are afraid to get checkmated by you by debating you? IDK.

curious why, but I'll at least accept the answer

Ydrasse feels like he has been floating around. I don't trust him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

02. SirCakez = town

talk about this, btw? I don't necessarily disagree, just wanna know what you see

Agree with 90% of what he says.

[Albert B. Rampage]

why is ydrasse clear again?

He's not. Let's get him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wait why is everyone afraid of us?

I very much want an answer to this ^

Same

I'll third this

I'll fourth th...

No wait, the answer is in 969.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's smart

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's probably nothing and F&G is town. But I'm more 50-50 on him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's smart

So you basically think you won't be able to get a wagon going on f&g?

I think pressure on everyone would be good. We wasted this week parked on Pine.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My plan is to kill Pine tonight.

[Albert B. Rampage]

im down

VOTE: Fun & Games

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gamma what are your thoughts on F&G?

link to VC on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Albert B. Rampage]

and we will try again today

[Albert B. Rampage]

Welcome Chara!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Welcome Nora!

VOTE: IKSF

[Albert B. Rampage]

it's fine, provided i put some effort in.

I respect the effort, but your slot will need to flip for info.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What information will you get from Chara's flip?

Be patient and see.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Has your read on Penguin evolved at all since a week and half ago?

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's scum. Let's get this wagon on IKSF rolling.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's scum. Let's get this wagon on IKSF rolling.

You say you want a chara flip but once chara starts racking up votes, you immediately try to start a new wagon. what's up with that?

whats up with you not reading the game?

FOS Noraa

[Albert B. Rampage]

no

[Albert B. Rampage]

We can lynch IKSF or Penguin. Make your choices.

[Albert B. Rampage]

DEADLINE IS IN 8 HOURS PEOPLE, WAKE UP AND VOTE

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Penguin

[Albert B. Rampage]

Remember how last time you asked me to vote Johnny, I did it, and then you voted me?

No wonder nobody is joining you now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Penguin + fun and games scum team. You heard it here first. One of the replacements is the 3rd. Save this post for the post-game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You know what would be twisted? If Johnny was your buddy and you asked me to vote him only to then chainsaw defend him by voting me and ruining the momentum on the bandwagon you said you wanted originally. Either way I'm good with all 3 of you with preference being penguin.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Penguin and F&G trying to deadline lynch me now that they're getting the light shined on them. Damn! Did I just crack this case wide open without even trying

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll vote Bingle but Noraa and charaa need to take a stance on things before we go to night.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fun and games you attack ABR for jumping on a vanity wagon while u urself are on Johnny who has like 2 votes or something. that's a bit hypocritical don't u think?

This is so true it hurts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've been telling you guys about F&G for several days now. Let's do this.

VOTE: Fun & Games

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez, why did you say F&G wasn't a viable vote a couple hours ago?

We knew there was support.

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez, why did you say F&G wasn't a viable vote a couple hours ago?

We knew there was support.

is there really? they've gotten like two votes

Yes, there was support. People gave verbal consent but didn't vote. Then you said to Noraa "it wasn't viable" and to vote within me charaa and bingle.

[Albert B. Rampage]

it's literally not the leading wagon but facts don't seem to matter to you

cakez literally said you have 2 votes on you right before. but you don't call cakez out for "facts don't matter to you".

[Albert B. Rampage]

cakez, why did you say F&G wasn't a viable vote a couple hours ago?

We knew there was support.

is there really? they've gotten like two votes

Yes, there was support. People gave verbal consent but didn't vote. Then you said to Noraa "it wasn't viable" and to vote within me charaa and bingle.

who are these "verbal supporters"?

There was creative, johnny, me, noraa, by the time you said it wasn't viable.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I townread Bingle so that's never going to happen.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There was creative, johnny, me, noraa, by the time you said it wasn't viable.

why does it actually matter whether it's viable or not? You seem to be more interested in proving that it is viable to wagon me than you are interested in whether I'm guilty.

Do you not understand what's actually important in this game?

It matters a lot.

Cakez borrowed a move from my playbook of trying to present the options for today's lynch. He's more aggressive to defend you than I've seen him play in other games, and his initial reason was "F&G is active so I don't want to lynch him or the game will become stale".

[Albert B. Rampage]

it's literally not the leading wagon but facts don't seem to matter to you

You selectively pointed out nora for not having their facts straight when literally 2 posts above, cakez didn't even realize you had more than 2 votes on you. If you're town, you should be at least a little suspicious of cakez trying to take a bullet for you from out of nowhere.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Put yourself in my chair. You were part of the people today who didn't want to lead bandwagons or mix things up, contributing to the staleness you criticized. For the past 2 weeks, all you did was pile onto people who were being voted already and had high odds of being lynched. And now you come out of the shadows to defend F&G who you never townread, and act more aggressively than your ordinary meta to get your way, and this is without even following who's voting who. Then you get a pass from F&G after all this. I'm trying to weigh the contradictions. Walk me through what you're trying to achieve here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've never ever seen cakez say "hey you can't vote for w, your options are x, y, and z". Even if he has done this before, the timing is off when w is definitely on the table at the time he said it wasn't. It's what I refer to as a decision point. Manipulating a decision point when the winds are blowing in different directions are what scum do to help town lynch themselves.

[Albert B. Rampage]

town: penguin, iks, sircakez

of course that would be your townreads. of course.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't buy it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR do you actually have reasons for wanting me elim'd ? I'd like to go over them with you, you can start with your best reason.

Bingle could have hammered Pine at any time. He could have helped you lynch me at any time. Instead he was on vanity wagons when town SHOULD be on vanity wagons, in the middle of the day. He's town and your push on him reeks F&G.

[Albert B. Rampage]

your reads are shite mate

[Albert B. Rampage]

looks like your play is more about consolidating your power base and pocketing town. unfortunately for you, my forte is pushing through difficult lynches on strong scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

oh, deflection, is it? I didn't see that coming.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I hope I'll have as much fun catching your buddies.

link to VC on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

When your "townreads" do new things that appear suspicious, I expect you to comment on it or think to yourself, hey maybe I was wrong about someone I thought was completely town. It doesn't make sense you hardtownread penguin and cakez and suspect me johnny and bingle. Your play is very safe. Consistent and safe, so much so that it's not scumhunting to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright, there's no scenario where I'm unvoting you so let's just get on with it. Go get people to defend you and we'll see where the chips fall.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Our reads have evolved though. You can see bingle used to be lesser town on our readlist and now we are pushing for him being elim'd.

The context I'm referring to is cakez and penguin, not bingle.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.

mixed met·a·phor
/ˈˌmiks(t) ˈmedəfər/
noun
noun: mixed metaphor; plural noun: mixed metaphors
a combination of two or more incompatible metaphors, which produces a ridiculous effect (e.g., this tower of strength will forge ahead ).

I should have said "take it with a grain of salt or leave the kitchen" to get the triple double.

[Albert B. Rampage]

To make a long story short, I think your reads are fabricated.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've never been good at explaining my reasons in the first place, I'm more of a blunt instrument pushing through the squalor to get to the gold.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR doesn't it feel weird to you how this wagon only formed within a day of deadline though?

The deadline is paused. We have time back on our side.

[Albert B. Rampage]

oh ok now we're getting somewhere.

Which one do you think is fake? Let's go through the reasoning and you can let us know what's fake.

Are you serious? If you're scum, it's all of them. If you're not scum, then it's none of them. What kind of question is "which one do you think is fake", as if one head is town and the other is scum and I'm going to pick apart and distinguish between every post you made so I can explain how I caught you. It's ridiculous.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR doesn't it feel weird to you how this wagon only formed within a day of deadline though?

The deadline is paused. We have time back on our side.

yeah but this should have formed earlier no?

Believe me I tried.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Thank you Noraa!

[Albert B. Rampage]

my town block that im fairly confident in rn is ABR, Noraa

You tell em Noraa

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm going to bed, unfortunately I've been too busy for mafia today. I do have a guarantee I'll be on in roughly 8 hours though (I have a Zoom meeting I'm definitely not paying attention to), so I'll be around at deadline.

VOTE: Noraa

Vote FG with us

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who's online right now besides FG?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Is here anyone who has a useless item?

Do you really think Bingle can still happen or are you ready to hammer FG if we need you to?

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, I am not scum with Fun and Games. I would still like to hammer Bingle because it looks like he is at L-1, but now I am doubting myself.

We don't have time for this. We have the votes for FG. You need to vote there now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not asking you to trust me dude. If we no lynch this is going to be on you and IKSF.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You don't have the votes for Bingle.

Johnny is around, he will put his vote back on FG, if Gamma doesn't come around cakez will vote FG as well. This is it. There's no room for discussion.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not surprised. I will make my own arrangements for tonight.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So will I be getting vigged tonight?
pedit: Oh looks like I am safe.

Looks like you've just been de-prioritized on my kill list. Congratulations.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will use common sense or you can vote me out tomorrow.

link to VC/end of Day 2 on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

Idk earlier he wanted to do your slot, probably will switch to mine given recent developments

I won't attack you. I'll let things play out day 3. Tonight I will explore for a weapon or go to the gym.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sorry Bingle. You kind of deserved to die for not voting FG at the end there.

I'm not a vig, I just have an extra pool of dice I can add to my attack.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pretty sure Bingle is town here guys

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not referring to twilight. If he was scum he would have voted F&G.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've considered and immediately discarded that possibility as it's nonsense

Get gud

[Albert B. Rampage]

I found the vault guys. It contains 3 items if we can crack it. We need a knowledge roll of 7 or higher.

[Albert B. Rampage]

F&G what did you do last night?

[Albert B. Rampage]

My knowledge is too low to even attempt a roll. The max I can roll is 6 right?

[Albert B. Rampage]

My specialty is fighting. I'm dumb.

[Albert B. Rampage]

pls be real

You should have used it on Fun&Games.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I use revolver on noraa

Quoting this ^

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR what happened to your vig powers?

I'm not a vig

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR what happened to your vig powers?

Maybe you could wait for actual daystart?

If someone dies at night they flip at Dawn. We all made it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Btw not sure why but I was blocked the night before last night :/
like before I replaced in, I was blocked. not sure how. not sure why.

Did you try to go to the gym? We were all blocked.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nice job on the labs, lads.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, the gym was blocked.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I gave the game some thought last night. The votes on Bingle at the end with Gamma and Johnny switching and IKSF hammering.

VOTE: Fun & Games

[Albert B. Rampage]

I still think F&G is the best vote today.

link to VC on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

actually looking at things it seems like ABR attacked CAKEZ? Why???

I explored and found the vault.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Idk earlier he wanted to do your slot, probably will switch to mine given recent developments

I won't attack you. I'll let things play out day 3. Tonight I will explore for a weapon or go to the gym.

Everyone seems to be forgetting about this?

[Albert B. Rampage]

IKSF is scummy as hell.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We should kill him after F&G.

link to VC on this page

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're not confirmed scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't hate your claim. If you did destroy a lab, I would not be voting you right now. I couldn't kill you and be wrong.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's pretty stupid to say I need to "prove" my claim. This isn't a traditional game where town roles are handed out. My career is not alignment-indicative, it's not carefully selected after setup balance. It's totally random.

I don't need to prove anything. I have the power, I can use it or I can choose not to. You don't know what the downsides to my power are and aren't in a position to tell me what the best move to make is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah, we need F&G today. No loose ends going into night.

[Albert B. Rampage]

he gave me the item that put my knowledge up to 6
Which, btw, expires at the end of today so if I can’t attempt the vault rn I’ll probably not worry about it for now

Wow, that does not seem very helpful if it doesn't even last for the night.

I am also ready to vote Fun and Games, but I think DKKoba should be given time to share thoughts to catch up and share some thoughts. Was Nosferatu attacked by the scum?

What are your reads?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ally if Lav gives you a sword can you kill one of them tonight?

Yes, depending on the flip today. I'll make a common sense decision.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Send me the sword right now. If you send it at night, I won't be able to use it until N4.

[Albert B. Rampage]

GIVING ITEMS
Players can give each other Items at any time by PMing me or posting in your personal PT the following: Give [Item Name] to [Recipient Name].
During the Dawn and Day phase, this is effective as of the PM and is permanent.

[Albert B. Rampage]

yall think it would break the setup to be pro town if we just shared all our info? im like trying to think of what the worst case scenario is or whatever. like i feel like scum could be sussed out via them having to fake info and us being able to track basically what everyone is doing

Read page 1 again

[Albert B. Rampage]

Me

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm ready for hammer guys.

Cakez and Lavar place your votes.

[Albert B. Rampage]

None of your business

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm ready for hammer guys.

Cakez and Lavar place your votes.

No

You want to put the whole game on hold because you're too lazy to read the game and want to ask your useless questions as a substitute for making your own observations?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's pretty clear FG is being bussed here. The entire town minus IKSF wants his head.

I have nothing more to add today and will not be taking further questions. Thank you everybody.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't care, Fun and Games. I'm beyond it. Let's get on with this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's stupid because careers are random and NAI from what the mod has stated. I keep having to repeat this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We had an amazing day start and now I'm getting apathetic.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mine

link to next VC (post 2350)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Says the guy who was on every mislynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Guys you can waste your breath on this scumbag or you can vote him out. The choice is yours

[Albert B. Rampage]

F&G, claim you career.

We gef a +2 to defense rolls when attacked. Since abr appears to be *exactly* our counterpart we thought it's mildly +scum, that's why we were all interested in his role, and why we think he might be the person making the scum attacks, with a high attack bonus

I ruined your plan by not attacking you, whick sparks infinite joy

[Albert B. Rampage]

Guys you can waste your breath on this scumbag or you can vote him out. The choice is yours

Dude who cares we are going to elim them so let them talk if they are town we can use what they said tomorrow if not we just ignore it

Why do I get the feeling that you've been trying to derail their lynch since the start while paying lip service to it?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sircakez can i get you to commit to reconsidering abr tomorrow (upon our townflip, etc)

He said he would suspect me if you flipped green already. Try to read.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If F&G flips town I would probably go to ABR and Noraa next

You mean reconsider how then...

[Albert B. Rampage]

im not taking any questions, this is a waste of my time

[Albert B. Rampage]

If anyone wants to, I can attack IKS twice tonight and someone else could finish him off.

im down

[Albert B. Rampage]

i want to make sure he dies though

[Albert B. Rampage]

okay good