Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

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guess what

-tsunami

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He's the best scummer.

-tsunami

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tsunami claim ur actions

The correct answer is "chicken butt" tyvm

-tsunami

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The correct answer to the question guess what is chicken butt

-tsunami

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Ok I'll stfu otherwise 72's gunna choke on air reading this thread and also he gonna be disappointed in my solving skills

-tsunami

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I think he already knows for the most part what's going on. I summarized really well (nah I didn't the summary was crap)

-tsunami

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Lmao why would I fake claim something? Maybe you need to click on the links in this signature. That *might* help you understand what happened

-tsunami

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*sigh* I'll have to go remind 72 that DK is conftown.
and why do you want 72 to claim actions? I've already claimed actions LOL

-tsunami

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NVM I'm going by speeder from now on. That way 72 can be reader

-speeder

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other hydras clogged up the queue so I decided to just let this one come here.

-speeder

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*my other hydras

-speeder

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I already caught my buddy up. His timezone is just the opposite of mine is all. Plus its not like anyone is asking my slot for a claim or anything. Besides Dk's "CLAIM YOUR ACTIONSCLAIM YOUR ACTIONSCLAIM YOUR ACTIONS", there's nothing that requires an answer from us.

-speeder

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I don't think my buddy is holding up this game. In fact, I am 10000% sure that he can help progress this game. There be a reason why he is the soul reader half of this hydra.

-speeder

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I don't think my buddy is holding up this game. In fact, I am 10000% sure that he can help progress this game. There be a reason why he is the soul reader half of this hydra.

-speeder

Hi all

Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Not really sure what I can do in a 4561 post game coming in day 5, but hey, yolo

- reader (will be reading the inside of my eyelids soon)

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I Keep Siteflaking has been prodded.

Pine has not responded to his prod. Deadline is paused at 2 days and 4 hours while I search for a replacement.

Yeah. I will probably be siteflaking during from Tuesday to Friday. Zoom school sucks.

Alright. Why is noone wagoned?

This pings me. IKSF returns from a prod and their first thought appears to be where the votes are at.
It also feels quite LAMISTY. I'm not getting a real genuine concerned town vibe.

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VOTE: LavarManos

Explain? I mean I'm scum reading them too but I think the obvious first boot here is F&G

I townread F&G because Skitter seems similar to her town games.
I will kill Naraa during nights.

Yesterday, main wagons were: {Bingle, Pine, ABR, John, F&G}
I TR F&G, Bingle is dead, John is mechanical townlean.
ABR is wierd.
Leaving Pine slot.
+ I think I will have more support there than on others.

1. Super shallow read "seems similar"
2. Not seeing a town mindset to specifically reviewing main wagons.
1+2 = scummy

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IKS's "scum slip" likely isnt even a scumslip. Mini normals always have 3 scums from my experience so I would almost say its a townslip. The problem is that with all the townies being prs, I feel like its somewhat possible for there to be 4 scums so if there are 4 scums yeah it was a scumslip. prob is that idk how many there are so I can't put my finger on whether this is a scum or town slip.

I am surprised you are not pushing me for it.

Guilty conscience.

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Yes. Try to deactivate lab. This way Nos might not be forced to waste his action.

LAbs dont seem to be much of a threat this game.

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Zero town vibes from IKSF's ISO

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hi

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our slot got up to E-2

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V OTECOUNT 2.033
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-7	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	Noraa, SirCakez	EL-5	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Chara	CreativeMod1, I Keep Siteflaking, Nosferatu	EL-4	3	3	4	Chara
Bingle	PenguinPower, JohnnyFarrar	EL-5	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	Gamma Emerald	EL-6	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	Albert B. Rampage, Bingle	EL-4	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Noraa	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Noraa
JohnnyFarrar	Fun and Games	EL-6	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Chara
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-14 12:10:00)
Notes: Please note the updated deadline. pagetops: Lilith 23 | penguin 14 | ABR 4 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | gamma 2 | gb 1 | fun & games 2 | nosferatu 2 | bingle 1 | iks 1

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Gamma's tone oozes town

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Is anyone actually clear? My nimble head tells me that Cmod, Gamma, Johnny, DK are "somewhat conftown"

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How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?

Based on the fact that he lost speed, visited library and 2 labs were activated - not very likely.

I want to examine this question more closely. Where did scum use their knowledge modifier N2? How do you know if Gamma really visited the library, rather than giving himself the +1 knowledge right before activating a lab?

This interaction with IKSF sucks. Probs scum to scum more often than scum to town

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All this mechanic talk is why I used to only play open games I still haven't read this setup.

VOTE: pine because he's scum but I have a few things I wanna discuss

Hydra seems quiet today, internal strife?

Albert B. makes me nervous. More of a feeling.

I would vote Cmod if setup didn't point to cmod town.

Tempted to stake my life on ydrasse town

link to VC on this page

Albert's lack of response to Johnny's "Albert B. makes me nervous" makes me feel like Johnny is more likely to be town than scum here

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The phrasing gives me town vibes overall too.

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I don't. But ABR/IKS and ABR/Noraa were both parked on the same wagon back to back for several VCs yesterday.

Lavar is also an option for his partner

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He made it seem like he was gonna carry this game when he revealed and now he ain't done shit

this feels quite genuinely townie

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Can someone post what everyone has done as their claimed night actions?

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UNVOTE: ydrasse

a lot of nulls slots this game

VOTE: abr

nosferatu unvoted us from E-2 and switched to scum in ABR

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V OTECOUNT 1.013
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	Pine	EL-6	3	3	3	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	Ydrasse, Gamma Emerald	EL-5	2	3	3	SirCakez
GeorgeBailey	Fun and Games	EL-6	3	3	4	GeorgeBailey
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Pine	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Pine
Bingle	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	1	Nosferatu
DoctorPepper	None	EL-7	3	3	3	DoctorPepper
PenguinPower	None	EL-7	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	DoctorPepper	EL-6	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Ydrasse	PenguinPower, Albert B. Rampage, Nosferatu, SirCakez, CreativeMod1	EL-2	3	3	3	Ydrasse
beeboy	None	EL-7	3	3	3	beeboy
Not Voting	GeorgeBailey, beeboy, Bingle
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-09-27 23:16:10)
Notes: DoctorPepper is V/LA until Sept 25 pagetops: Lilith 6 | penguin 6 | ABR 1 | gamma 1 | cm1 1

Without reading CAkez ISO id say cake is scum is leaning scumpurely off this VC.

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309 + 202 posts from the 1 slot.... srsly

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Aint reading DK. Vibes im getting are:
aggressive
self entitled

Matches DK's prev town MO.

Probs town off nosferatu's slot alone.

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No vibes from Penguin's posts. Though thats probs 80% due to me not rly reading them but skimming. Sue me.

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I’m fine with it. His dance around Noraa slot was bad and his claim is pretty much that slots claim to but he won’t get specific.

I think I quite prefer Noraa over Bingle at this point.

This doesnt really marry up though.

Someone "dancing over" a slot and not taking a firm stance on a slot is scummy.

Our slot was the one being danced over if i understand the context correvtly.

But then somehow lands at prefers Noraa over Bingle

Non sequitur.

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DkKo pls cool off, Nora will out herself or explain herself later and given her reason for holding off on claiming specific things will obviously need to be very detailed and nuanced it's gonna be pretty hard to actually construct a fake story. like as long as there is 1+ player alive who isn't mechanically brain-dead, scum!Nora ours herself by having shitty reasons for stalling so long

Bad vibes here.

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Feels like scum discussing a scenario (Noraa faking a "story", imguessing context wise this was re: night actions/role claim?,, anyways not important ie implying she is scum as only scum has to lie) they wont be to held accountable to anyway, because its not true (our slot being scum)

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plan changed
can we elim this phase?
I don't care

VOTE: Noraa

baha,

"ill give noraa then benefit of the doubt..." is the vibe i was getting from the "faking story post"

followed by a vote that feels like it was always coming.

alarm bells.

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I think my reads are liek

Gamma

Johnny
DkKo
Cmod1
Noraa
IKS

Cakez



or something

hm

reads list seems ok at this stage, though, other than noraa.

I havent read noraa's iso, but noraa tends to read as town to me when she plays scum. So i dont know why noraa is so low.

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unless literally cleared

like the game is basically

{Gamma,dkko} literal conftown
{Johnny} pls town pls
{Tw,CM1} keep doing towny things
{Noraa,iks} delicious delicious limbait
{Cakez} literally attempted to scumsided itt, is trying to survive exclusively on the merit of some vig claim I don't understand (when scum don't have a linear NK ) and isn't trying to sort anyone

I suddenly think if killing cakez doesn't end the game it's actually somewhat more likely you'll find the voice in the CM1/tw tier given we're like contractually obligated to try and endgame.

Worst/IKS team seems possible

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oh 72 are you another Aussie scummer?

ye

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Cre with 98 posts. LEGEND

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I didn't go to the gym, I went exploring and I found a rather fun little item that I'd love to play with today
It's a homing pigeon, essentially I give it to another player and they can send me a 300 character message back, they can then send it back to me and I can make a reply.
So essentially I can use it to have private conversations with other players

If people trust me, I would love to send it out to a load of different people and if anyone has any information leading to a scum then I can out the information to the town but not who the information came from.

This feels like a town mindest thought of use of homing pigeon

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I'm so confused by a lot of things

Nos, you're saying you got operated on last night?

So if we count all the actions we believe Doctors did last night:
1) Roomblocked the gym
2) Activated Lab 1
3) Activated Lab 2
4) Operated on Nos
5) Factional attack on Gamma

Thats a lot of scum night actions. I understand ppl have 3 speed, halved = 1 = 1 night action each for most. 1 speedy scum probs.= 4 scum

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Who had 4 speed + at this stage of the game?

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Gah, all I did was sleep and now theres another 20+ pages haha, I'm just gonna put thoughts in here as I read through, apologies if I say something that later gets addressed, also ngl but I'm skim reading half this game cos there's just so much

1) The votecount is very interesting, thank you very much. A big part of why I wanna flip F&G is due to the voting patterns, more so on the second day but also from the first day, I could 100% see a scum team of F&G and Lava

2) IKS I could also see as being scum from VC, notice how they were on Lava's wagon until it got too hot and then rejoined Lava's wagon once it cooled down

3) Looking at Lava's ISO's, I can see this being a trio

4) DK, chill out, just cos we have opposing views doesn't make either of us bad at the game. Also this is a democracy not a dictatorship, just because you're townier than most doesn't give you the right to take control of the game. I hate it when players play like that because it makes the game a lot less fun.

5) DK, a massive issue with your plan is that Nos had already told town about how your ability works, Scum will be able to account for it

6) Nora being scummy for going to the gym means nothing...I also went to the gym last night, does this make me scum? :O

7) Lol I find it funny that DK is calling out Gamma for being stubborn...

8) Lets look at the world in which Nora is scum, who needs 4 speed to do her rather powerful ability....why would scum stop her from getting it on the first night, like okay yes a lot of people got room blocked on that night (I wouldn't be surprised if some were scum lying about going there) I'd probably predict about 3 players actually got room blocked...Scum!Nora would rather gain her ability sooner rather than later

9) I noticed that DK is calling F&G townie for at the start of the game trying to coordinate who does what action that night and who visits what rooms...knowing who is planning on visiting what room is very powerful for scum who have a room-blocker, if they want to use that room-blocker as effectively as possible then knowing which room is gonna have the most people visiting is gonna be very helpful

10) Social read on DK is still scummy, I find it hilarious that they're trying to sow doubt on some of the other towniest players, not that I really should need to defend myself but here we go anyway:
a) I had no reason to share my stat boost with Gamma, I did so because Gamma hinted towards being able to attack multiple labs, I could've easily saved it hidden away for some late game attacks
b) I had no reason to use my heal ability on Nos/DK, especially cos Nos at first told me not to but eventually they asked me to do so and thus I did. Again I could've saved it for later to heal a scum buddy
c) I have proven all of my night actions with exploring and finding items as I have passed out all of my items to Gamma
d) Lets be real here, I'm a lot more townie then you are
e) We should all keep in mind though that there isn't any form of 100% confirmed town in this setup, from what I gather, there is no cop or anything like that

11) See point 4...DK, chill the fuck out, love that I'm about 10 pages in and I've gotta say this again, nobody is gonna listen to you or respect your views if you try to be a dictator...heck even if you were cop confirmed I wouldn't listen to you at this point. Stop being so rude and try listening to other people. This game is gonna require social reads, telling everyone what to do will not help our social reads, you need to let other players come up with ideas themselves so that we can grill them on why they'd suggest said ideas.

12) This plan of getting everyone to attack each other is so pointless, in fact scum are gonna love it 100% because they'll be able to get a load of damage done to half the town, they'll get to use the attack function on people without any downside

13) F&G, yes I am staying very firmly on your wagon, I'm not 100% certain you're scum but I'm a good 80% certain, I am however 100% certain that flipping you will give us sooooo much info, cos if you flip scum then we'll learn a lot, if you flip town then we'll know that our original ideas were wrong and thus we can re-evaluate, this is why I was so frustrated with the bingle flip yesterday, it gave us nothing...atm I think scum team are: F&G/Lava/IKS +1 other, Lava would be a pointless flip because I don't feel like they're active enough to be fighty on a future day, F&G I could easily see them being able to out-argue other players and get away with it (as they have been doing all day)

14) I highly agree with SirCakez, so much of this whole game has been spammy pointless arguments and it's made this game a massive tax to read, honestly I'm not surprised that PP quit the game, there's just so much bullshit happening and it's pointless

Probs town

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Fun and games is my current strongest SR

pick someone else this is never happening today

I've been telling you guys about F&G for several days now. Let's do this.

VOTE: Fun & Games

really dislike this we need to stick on Bingle or something that will actually happen within the next day

I could go back to Chara also. Nothing about their entrance struck me as town.

This phrasing sounds like a scum mindset.

Reads like a weak offer to vote for their scumbuddy for town points. A weak offer that Cake hopes not to be taken up on.

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frankly Noraa if both of those flip town you should be on top of the chopping block

This is just bad

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Comes from scum way more than it comes from town

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@Fun & Games do you think Penguin and Cakez are scum? Because that's the only ABR team that makes sense to me if you're town

In case skits can't read the last page

Why is that the only team that makes senss with abr?? Do u townread abr

Agreeing with vibe Johnny has here. Scum amongst IKSF/Cake and theworst

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--------- End of reader -------

Reading inside of my eyelids in about 15 mins time.

Chat/ Ask now, or forever hold ur peace.

If someone has a compelling CONCISE case as to why someone is scum, feel free to present it to me.

Take my reads with a pinch of salt given i skimmed and when i say skimmed i mean skimmed.

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idk what that means. Never hydra'ed before am i doing something wrong.

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Oh nuuuu the precious precious soul reader did a ton of reading I see. *sends lots of virtual huggies to 72*
Ok now let me catch up
Ftr the posts that aren't signed are from him and the ones that are signed are mine. if anyone complains, imma be annoyed cuz he did quite some work.

-tsunami

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checking who claims to have visited gym N1.

I visited the gym N1 and N2.
The reasons my predecessor visited the gym N1 I suspect is because if predecessor's N0 action. My predecessor found the gym and then went the next night and got blocked. Then I repped in and wanted 4 speed so I went to the gym N2 as well.

-tsunami

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I literally basically told 72 like nothing and he managed to figure out that ABR was scum. impressive considering I always thought that slot was town :/

-tsunami

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Limpool is {iks, worst, cake}
partner says there's something wrong with worstie. that means there's something wrong bc from what I could tell, he didnt skim that iso.
partner said iks was weird and thats prolly a slight red flag considering there's been so much resistance to that wagon. I agree that it was a universal SR but it literally disappeared like *poof* so fast its concerning.
partner also said cake is weird and thats the current consensus SR.

btw when does the day end?

-tsunami

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I'll claim all my actions now. I want EVERYONE else to do the same. Nows the time to do it and btw if you are scum, I will be checking your Iso so make tf sure that they match up.

N0- explored and found gym
N1- went to gym, room was blocked
N2- went to gym, speed is now 4
N3- stole necklace(increase one knowledge) and explored and found the Albert lab
N4- attempted to destroy carl lab, failed, and explored and found the fountain of youth(increases two stats), but destroyed the fountain

-tsunami

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It's because my buddy is confused and I'm 1000% sure that everyone claiming will help him and me honestly. Plus its not really a turnaround. I had, prior to Dk's constant questioning, claimed every single action except D0.

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I was hoping scum would cc that thinking that someone that died found the gym but eh whatever.

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not cc, claim and then I would cc

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p sure no. I didnt find the gym but when I entered the game I didn't have any items.

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I didn't get anything tho. hold up. lemme go check the pt

-tsunami

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Btw Johnny was saying he was gunna give me the healing item. He never did just saying.

main slip. sorries

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It's not proven and could just be some weird scum gambit. Lavar was doomed and would've been the next days lim so I wouldn't even be surprised if a partner just killed them off to get towncred.

-tsunami

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Disagree. Theres a bigger advantage to being conftown nearing limlo alone than there is to keeping two scum bucket partners around for one more day.

-tsunami

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Well I got the item. I lose stats to use it to heal someone and consumes all my actions. Good. That matches the description Johnny previously gave perfectly. Johnny can u claim actions as well pls?

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Also 72 says Johnny is town. This reconfirms my TR there and I will be considering this locktown from now on.
Dk why so silent when your request finally went thru?
IKS claim. Cake claim.
All the conftown, dont claim until everyone else is done. see if you can cc something or find something wrong with someone's actions

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I have not talked this over with my partner yet but Johnny would you like the necklace? It will permanently give you +1 knowledge.

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Actually, I take it back. To use the heal, I will have to lose one knowledge anyways so I'll need it technically.

-tsunami

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I will heal gamma tonight but my stats will go down. I'd prefer no one attack me tonight. Sorry the circle isnt gonna work. Otherwise I'm legit possibly gonna die tonight.

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Johnny knows exactly how much it decreases my stats and which ones I will take it too(dont reveal yet). Johnny I will die if attacker rolls good, correct? Theres not too high a chance ig but its definitely possible.

-tsunami

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*to

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Cool. So no one attack me. If anyone attacks me, for real that would be a scum claim.

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Could we also get Career claims too whilst we're at it btw

Ah yes. I am an Assassin. I can attack more than once.

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Claim your actions cake

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Dont pretend you didnt see that and make sure they match up with what ur iso says here.

-tsunami

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Claim them the way everyone else has so far in the past two pages. The more you stall, the more scummy you look.

-tsunami

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Ok im stupid. Pretend I dont exist for a hot sec while I die of shame

-tsunami

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Worstie claim your actions asap

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Lol except I have :3

-tsunami

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Worstie can you compile it into one post?
looks like this:
"d0-yadda yadda
d1-yadda yadda
d2-yadda yadda
d3-yadda yadda
d4-yadda yadda"

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quote it

go back a legit like 1 page and you can use your observational skills to find it

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i actually think that noraa slot's town equity crept up weirdly

No shit. Maybe because I am a lost and confused bear whereas 72 actually knows wtf he is doing.

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I was attacked by IKS last night. Other than that, scum haven't so much as touched me. Tonight, no one is allowed to attack me cuz I will die if I get attacked by a townie and then a scum 100%. If only attacked by scum, I might be able to survive.

-tsunami

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None. No attacks

If any townie attacks, they scum claim so do not fucking do it.

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I was attacked by IKS last night. Other than that, scum haven't so much as touched me. Tonight, no one is allowed to attack me cuz I will die if I get attacked by a townie and then a scum 100%. If only attacked by scum, I might be able to survive.

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Why do you say this? Looking at the stats you've got better stats than quite a few people?

im healing gamma tonight with an item that Johnny gave me. The item will suck up my stats.

-tsunami

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Worstie do a list. it aint hard.

-tsunami

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dude. Im quoting claimed action lists straight into the pt for 72 cuz otherwise he gonna have to read another twenty billion pages. whatever I'll just type this up myself since ur being dumbbbb -____-

-tsunami

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Currently the plist is:
Gamma,
Cake,
CMod,
Dk,
IKS,
Worstie,
Us,
Johnny

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^sorry I keep losing track of who is in the game with all the quiet

-tsunami

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Gamma,
Cake-claimed
CMod-claimed
Dk,
IKS,
Worstie-claimed
Us-claimed
Johnny-claimed

-tsunami

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Currently the plist is:

what's a plist?

player list

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iks, you and nora attack eachother.

johnny, can u be leashed to stealing from nora? she can use the item before u steal it. u also may be able to get their item list which can reveal more since they have been quiet abt their actions.

excuse me?

-tsunami

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you only need to roll a 3 so its fine

bruh. so many people have failed to destroy labs. dont make it sound like its nothing.

-tsunami

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IKS if you attack me tonight, I am going to death tunnel you tomorrow so you better not.

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iks, you and nora attack eachother.

johnny, can u be leashed to stealing from nora? she can use the item before u steal it. u also may be able to get their item list which can reveal more since they have been quiet abt their actions.

excuse me?

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Ok DK actually needs to shut up at this point. Im sick and tired of these crappy plans that are always like "lalalalalala DO WHAT I SAY YOU PEASANTS"
"Disagree with me and I tell everyone to go attack and steal from you."
seriously wtf.
Someone has got to talk to DK rn cuz I am not ok with 72 having to deal with this shit.

-tsunami

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If you use your eyes, you will see there is a plan. Oh sorry, I forgot. Any plan that isnt YOUR plan you dont see is that right?

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Heck I could claim I destroyed a lab and have zero people cc and you would be like "omg guys Noraa is scummy she didnt claim her actions. Lets yeet her."

-tsunami

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Why is Johnny stealing from me? I have one item and I might die if I dont have it.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

You say you aren't a gamethrower eh? I have a fucking action that can be fucking proved that drains my fucking stats to heal a conftown. And all you do is "go attack her. go steal from her"
Her actions are drained, her stats are drained. Lets take all her items too.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Seriously DK?
I dont give a shit that you find me scummy. It's clear that no one except you is this stupid about this matter. So stop. Literally stop.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

If I die at night, god knows if the heal goes thru, the conftown will have to decrease their stats to heal others, town loses valuable reads(from 72 not me), and town has to waste actions stealing my two items.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

To be fair, at this point given that Me, Gamma and DK are fairly safe from scum attacks (me due to my flashlight, Gamma due to their defence item and DK due to their career)

If one of the conftown dies, do you think anyone will know who did it? I mean they can scream in the dead thread but no one can hear.
I dont think anyone is safe. If cake is scum and has the career that he claims to have, he is a vig and im certain no one can tell us who attacked them if they're dead.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

The reason why im angry is not the fact that dying upsets me. It's DK's constant refusal to even attempt to clear me. DK's version is basically "once she dies she's cleared"
NO FUCKING SHIT.
but is that really optimal play?
And its annoying me that DK won't consider anything else and just tunnels for the literal shittiest reasons ever.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

IKS get here and claim your actions asap

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

rn in unclears outside of cakez im at :


johnny>iks>worst>nora

Does anyone that's been paying attention to the game agree that I need to be yeeted over worstie and iks?

DK,
1) I go by tsunami when im in this hydra
2) if you're gonna not go with tsunami, at least spell Noraa right

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

you think policying day 5 is a good idea?

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I Keep Siteflaking has been prodded.

Pine has not responded to his prod. Deadline is paused at 2 days and 4 hours while I search for a replacement.

Yeah. I will probably be siteflaking during from Tuesday to Friday. Zoom school sucks.

Alright. Why is noone wagoned?

This pings me. IKSF returns from a prod and their first thought appears to be where the votes are at.
It also feels quite LAMISTY. I'm not getting a real genuine concerned town vibe.

I don’t see why concern over lack of wagons is scummy tbh? I know there are people who come in and ask about wagons just on principle. I know I have done it as town.

Fair call, maybe confbiasing here

[Tsunami Slayer]

t

Can you please elaborate on the Cmod and tw reads for my benefit?

[Tsunami Slayer]

Is anyone actually clear? My nimble head tells me that Cmod, Gamma, Johnny, DK are "somewhat conftown"

Me and Dk are actually conftown
CMod and tw are at the point where I’d need a lot of scummy content from them or a very limited PoE for my suspension of disbelief to wane on their conftown status.
Johnny and Noraa (now Tsunami Slayer) haven’t really played their hands in a way I think scum would.
Cakez and IKS have minimal at best reasons to consider them town mechanically.

So who do u prefer out of cake and IKSF then?

[Tsunami Slayer]

I literally basically told 72 like nothing and he managed to figure out that ABR was scum. impressive considering I always thought that slot was town :/

-tsunami

i didnt figure it out. I read post #1 or whatever the dead/alive post is. But yes, ABR was slightly scummy

[Tsunami Slayer]

not cc, claim and then I would cc

-tsunami

This doesnt sound like a setup worth CCing anything.
Its a closed setup and its too easy for scum to make shit up.

[Tsunami Slayer]

It's not proven and could just be some weird scum gambit. Lavar was doomed and would've been the next days lim so I wouldn't even be surprised if a partner just killed them off to get towncred.

-tsunami

Agree with my other head.

I can think of 100 scenarios where scum dies not by cakez hand. Eg: A gambit-type event: roll a 2,3,4,5,6 = +1 to all stats, roll 1 = death.

eg: In the betrayal board game, there is an item called dark dice. I'm assuming the events in this mafia game are inspired by the board game.

6 Move to the location of any explorer not revealed as a traitor.
5 Move one other explorer in the same room into an adjacent room.
4 Gain 1 in a physical trait.
3 Immediately move into an adjacent room (no movement cost).
2 Gain 1 in a mental trait
1 Draw an event card
0 Reduce all of your traits to lowest value above the skull symbol. Discard the Dark Dice

[Tsunami Slayer]

It's not proven and could just be some weird scum gambit. Lavar was doomed and would've been the next days lim so I wouldn't even be surprised if a partner just killed them off to get towncred.

-tsunami

great minds ( ?heads xD )

[Tsunami Slayer]

think alike

[Tsunami Slayer]

I will heal gamma tonight but my stats will go down. I'd prefer no one attack me tonight. Sorry the circle isnt gonna work. Otherwise I'm legit possibly gonna die tonight.

-tsunami

Can someone explain the attack circle?
It sounds like a crock of shit.

[Tsunami Slayer]

And im not convinced by "results orientated" logic: but hey, no townies have died at night, but a scum did, so it must be good.

[Tsunami Slayer]

I've already claimed everything in thread scattered around
N0 - I found an event that led to me losing one strength
N1 - I tried to go to the gym and was blocked
N2 - I found my attack item
N3 - I attacked Lavar
N4 - I went to the gym

1. What was the stregth losing event - alittle detail here please.

2. What was the attack item? Once again detail please

[Tsunami Slayer]

ugh i hate you all let me be lazy at work in peace

give me 3 minutes

N0 explore, found library
N1 use gym, blocked
N2 explore, found Carl Heller lab
N3 explore, find lucky potion thingy + use career ability on gammo
N4 use gym to get swole

All that resistance and it literally took u 1 minute

[Tsunami Slayer]

i swear you're too smart to think "ah yes, the scum are going to march into a mechanical circlejerk and survive by... uncharismatically attemping to confuse everyone... by using a different kind of list format for their night actions" like that is hands down the stupidest read i have ever seen in my entire mafia career and your vote feels slimy and oversold

this is exactly the strategy scum uses when mechs are stacked against them and they need town to not follow them lol

To be honest this setup feels so town sided, im starting to think there are 3 scum left. Is that possible?

[Tsunami Slayer]

I’d prefer CMod attack lab tonight, worsty can train knowledge for his attempt on a lab if one is called for
Since we’re trying to let people become conftown, it makes little sense for existing conftown to attempt to destroy labs at the same time, no? Dk can try to steal items, but I cannot. As such, I’d like to file a request to Dk to be allowed exploration on nights where less than 2 labs exist? I hope it’s clear enough why the stated conditions make this essentially the only option outside of doing nothing.

Call me crazy but the plan outlined seems full of holes

Scum are just going to say:

Oh shucks.... im so unlucky...... i rolled so badly to destroy dat lab, and my attempt failed...... woe is me...

[Tsunami Slayer]

iks, you and nora attack eachother.

johnny, can u be leashed to stealing from nora? she can use the item before u steal it. u also may be able to get their item list which can reveal more since they have been quiet abt their actions.

excuse me?

-tsunami

Ok DK actually needs to shut up at this point. Im sick and tired of these crappy plans that are always like "lalalalalala DO WHAT I SAY YOU PEASANTS"
"Disagree with me and I tell everyone to go attack and steal from you."
seriously wtf.
Someone has got to talk to DK rn cuz I am not ok with 72 having to deal with this shit.

-tsunami

I dont mind. I havent invested 5 days worth into this game.

[Tsunami Slayer]

ALSO Noraa is healing gamma tonight, it's super easy to track and guarantees she can't do anything else

GUARANTEE

much better than shitty attack circle plans

[Tsunami Slayer]

I can also steal from you, DK. Or cmod. I don't wanna risk interrupting the heal by stealing the chalice or killing Noraa by taking the necklace.

Tbh, Tsunami Slayer death removes us as an unclear and whoever attacks us is confirmed scum.

[Tsunami Slayer]

nvm, no way its 5 scum vs 8 town.

[Tsunami Slayer]

not cc, claim and then I would cc

-tsunami

This doesnt sound like a setup worth CCing anything.
Its a closed setup and its too easy for scum to make shit up.

Originally, the fountain of youth was a good trap but I uh ... said too much and then I couldn't really explain why and shit so I just destroyed it. Ur probs right tho that theres a lot of fake shit they could make up. No one would cc finding the gym :/

It's not proven and could just be some weird scum gambit. Lavar was doomed and would've been the next days lim so I wouldn't even be surprised if a partner just killed them off to get towncred.

-tsunami

great minds ( ?heads xD )

think alike

I will heal gamma tonight but my stats will go down. I'd prefer no one attack me tonight. Sorry the circle isnt gonna work. Otherwise I'm legit possibly gonna die tonight.

-tsunami

Can someone explain the attack circle?
It sounds like a crock of shit.

great minds think alike

Nora keeps trying to argue their way into beint able to be un leashed and ur all fucking blind

Im leashed asf with that heal item + are you even reading the same game im reading lmao?

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I dont mind. I havent invested 5 days worth into this game.

*whispers* I haven't either.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Also what am I doing? Post a quick summup of the plan and then we can vote

ur stealing from nora

No he's fucking not.

I don't like that. I'm stealing the boots back from cmod. I'll give them right back tomorrow. Noraa action gets confirmed by the chalice either way. I don't think she's scum so I'm not killing her just for the hell of it. feels like bullying.

I like you Johnny Go tell them bullies to back off :3

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

No one should steal from me because I only have two items. If the steal goes through, I either potentially die if you get the necklace(its possible I survive) or I end up failing to heal gamma cuz the heal item gets taken.

Town will back off on this matter because if you successfully steal, town gains nothing.
Scum will back off because there's a possibility I survive either way and you scum claim by stealing from me.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

No one that is town should attack me tonight either. If scums attack me, I'll likely still survive but if town and scum attack me, there is zero chance I survive.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Cuz his timezone is the opposite of mine and he literally wakes up just around rn? admission of guilt? LMFAO. You think I brought a hydra partner in just to lie for me? You dont know how much better my scum game is LOL.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

We haven't talked that much about this game but I believe he thinks that the remaining scums are Cake and IKS

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Its not like Johnny or I are cleared. I dont understand ur big obsession with Cmod and I think Cmod is town.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Not to worry. My partner is the best soul reader I've ever seen. And my favorite one out of all of them
72 is da best!
If u hasn't noticed, I am in 72's site wide fan club
He'll catch those tells really fast if they are truly there

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

HE DA BEST!!!!!
*gets out my pom poms*

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

that's all i ask for - ty

I wanna play with 72 in a fresh game now tbh

me too tbh she's sold him alarmingly well
also aussie scummer hype

[Tsunami Slayer]

*gets out my pom poms once again*
Membership for site wide 72 fan club is expensive

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

No. My fav soul reader hasn't even read up yet. I'll leave him the hammer.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Worstie and Gamma, Membership is 1k per year

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Yeah but if cake is town and we have two scums left, I just gave scums the win

[Tsunami Slayer]

Dude I was about to hammer and then I saw this pedit

[Tsunami Slayer]

Actually, good point. IKS you have one day to claim actions otherwise we wagon you. I will make it happen.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

No this extreme resistance to cake wagon means something's up
-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

We have 4 whole entire days left. Zero I repeat ZERO need for flash wagons.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

shush 72'll solve the game in no time. Let him work his magic for like half an hour a day and I'm legit willing to bet he solves game before deadline
If the solve is wrong for some reason, I blame Worstie. It's clearly his manipulative soul messing with the perfectest reads.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Y'all are just trying to break that post record aren't you

looks like my evil intentions were discovered

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Ok I'm going to bed and if IKS hammers before giving a list, we are killing that slot tomorrow. IKS if you attack or steal from me, you are confscum. Anyone else that does either of those is also confscum.
-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Let me make it clear.

DO NOT ATTACK OR STEAL FROM ME OTHERWISE YOU ARE SCUM CLAIMING

[Tsunami Slayer]

I am healing Gamma tonight and if scum target me while I'm vulnerable, I will survive but if town joins hands, I am 10000% dead

[Tsunami Slayer]

G'night and if IKS hammers, remember what I said.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Let me make it clear.

DO NOT ATTACK OR STEAL FROM ME OTHERWISE YOU ARE SCUM CLAIMING

can 1 hydra head attack a fellow head?

[Tsunami Slayer]

TY GAMMA <3

[Tsunami Slayer]

But also, I have a serious question. If I heal gamma and gamma gets attacked that same night what will happen

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I think most likely the attack doesn't matter and doesn't even take effect. Cuz I think the attack comes "before" my heal and so Gamma just ends up with full stats anyways.

[Tsunami Slayer]

Don't give Worst the fucking item Gamma

This post alone is enough to make me want to yeet cake asap. IKS claim NOW and do not hammer otherwise everyone that has 2 speed should use one action to attack IKS tonight.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

If IKS hammers and doesn't claim, Cake dies and we kill IKS tonight.
I believe this is optimal play here
-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

If game is still going, we yeet worstie tomorrow and its 99% guaranteed game over imo cuz I highly highly doubt cmod is scum at this point in time.
-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

someone unvote. I do not wish to see Cake get hammered before IKS says anything about their actions.

-tsuami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I want the claimed actions.
-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I suppose it doesn't help that much but I want it more to see if they are believable.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Uh huh. I hide them far far far away in a public post in this thread Great hiding skills I have.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

checking who claims to have visited gym N1.

I visited the gym N1 and N2.
The reasons my predecessor visited the gym N1 I suspect is because if predecessor's N0 action. My predecessor found the gym and then went the next night and got blocked. Then I repped in and wanted 4 speed so I went to the gym N2 as well.

-tsunami

GOD FUCK. now that different windows still log you out, I keep main slipping

[Tsunami Slayer]

Btw not sure why but I was blocked the night before last night :/
like before I replaced in, I was blocked. not sure how. not sure why.

I didn't find anything last night. u shall see what I did soon.

[Tsunami Slayer]

so u still havent claimed n0 action!!

Mhm I definitely didn't

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I'll claim all my actions now. I want EVERYONE else to do the same. Nows the time to do it and btw if you are scum, I will be checking your Iso so make tf sure that they match up.

N0- explored and found gym
N1- went to gym, room was blocked
N2- went to gym, speed is now 4
N3- stole necklace(increase one knowledge) and explored and found the Albert lab
N4- attempted to destroy carl lab, failed, and explored and found the fountain of youth(increases two stats), but destroyed the fountain

-tsunami

Someone has sure been paying attention

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I can get behind this

maybe because this is the only way you dont die today?

[Tsunami Slayer]

Cake if you attack or steal from me, you'll regret it trust me. That actually goes for everyone. As for why, there's 3 reasons now AND you will 10000% die tomorrow if you do either. Just watch.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

gamma gave me an item that I believe he hasn't ever mentioned having and I'm quite sure I know where it comes from. All you need to know is attacking or stealing from me will be your death sentence

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

If anyone attacks me, its an automatic scum claim bc everyone here knows that I am leashed tonight.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

DK'll kick your ass if you find a lab jus sayin

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

No Johnny ur stats are bad right?

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

I'd like the pigeon as well because I have something to say as well but its alright cmod can go first.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Cake dont steal from Johnny. I can heal Johnny tomorrow maybe.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Just attack Johnny.

-tsunami

[Tsunami Slayer]

Right I forgot about that. I can only do that bc of career. The problem with attacking worst and worst attacking him is that I am 100% sure out of them two, one of them is prolly scum. The scum will lie to get the other killed. Perhaps attacking conftown is a better idea but idk.

-tsunami