Mini 129: Mega Man 2 Mafia [GAME OVER]

[rolandofthewhite]

Hey, everyone! My first themed game! *dance*

I don't really know the intricacies of Megaman, but I

do

know that inHimshallibe has 13 letters, and "Please lynch me!" also has 13 letters, so I'm going to

Vote: inHimshallibe

Three cheers for crap logic!

[rolandofthewhite]

That would sort of suck.

But at least it would be fairly obvious of who MegaMan was.

[rolandofthewhite]

I'm just curious... Is there a FOI (Finger of Innocence)? I know there is an FOS, but I've never seen FOI. Oh, well. Pardon the randomness of this.

[rolandofthewhite]

Could it be like there are 3 different forms of MegaMan? Sort of like in Mario, where 1 form of Mario is tiny, another is big, and the third throws fireballs. That kinda' thing? Or maybe I'm totally off...

[rolandofthewhite]

Wow... 5 for pwns already? Doesn't he at least deserve a chance to defend himself?

Unvote: inHimshallibe

for now, but

FOS: Chaotic_Diablo

for trying to start a random bandwagon. That's not helping any of us right now.

[rolandofthewhite]

EWW... HTML sucks.

Unvote: inHimshallibe

for now, but

FOS: Chaotic_Diablo

[rolandofthewhite]

Pardon my inability to use a computer.

[rolandofthewhite]

::shrug::

[rolandofthewhite]

I think you guys are all being a little childish, quoting each others' misspellings and such, but if that makes you guys feel superior, then go for it.

It seems to me that everyone is choosing sides. It looks like Chaotic_Diablo, sycko999, and inHimshallibe VS pwnz and Cubsfan4life, with the occasional Greg T and CoolBot thrown in. What I want to know, Chaotic, is why we shouldn't start a bandwagon on you, since you're so eager to get them going?

Bandwagoning for claims is pretty pointless, since the Mafia will just snipe off that person the next night.

But I DO agree. pwns, you haven't really given an adequate reason that we shouldn't vote for you at this point.

[rolandofthewhite]

rolandofthewhite wrote:
Bandwagoning for claims is pretty pointless, since the Mafia will just snipe off that person the next night.

Not necessarily. They have to worry about the doc, after all. Further, they may think there are bigger fish to fry.

But what if the person that you bandwagon

IS

the doctor...?

[rolandofthewhite]

O.o

I don't get it...

Why am I nudged?

[rolandofthewhite]

Oops. That post was late. I was reading page 4.

[rolandofthewhite]

I'm going to

Vote: Chaotic_Diablo

just so everyone will shut up.

It's tied up now. Get over it.

And if pwnz has a power role and doesn't want to reveal it, more power to him. I don't think any of us have the right to force him to claim, especially if it could make him a target to the Mafia.

Grow up and stop arguing, everyone.

[rolandofthewhite]

Not necessarily, though. There are always exceptions. You can't generalize like that.

[rolandofthewhite]

Er... Not

arguing

, per se. I can understand arguing.

But you guys are bickering. And that's just silly.

[rolandofthewhite]

I am as clueless as you guys, but you can't generalize because, despite how small the chances, he may be the doctor, or some equally important role that he cannot give out. The chances

are

small, but they

are

there.

I admit that he could very well be the Mafia, and I concede if it happens that he is. But I also recognize the fact that Chaotic could just as very well be Mafia, and he too has yet to claim his role, despite having 5 votes against him... True?

I'm going to have to go with pwnz on this one, even if he could be Mafia. Chaotic is hiding behind his bandwagon. My vote stands.

[rolandofthewhite]

Chaotic Diablo hasn't claimed either, so by your logic, he is also scum, correct?

[rolandofthewhite]

Yikes...

Adios, Chaotic.

[rolandofthewhite]

I did a little research, and I found all of the bosses, methinks...

Elec Man
Ice Man
Fire Man
Cut Man
Flash Man
Quick Man
Bubble Man
Heat Man
Enker

I don't think that all of them are in the game, though. Maybe Bubble Man was a special role?

Any ideas what he might have done?

[rolandofthewhite]

Maybe he was a self-protector, if Bubble Lead made some sort of a shield around him?

[rolandofthewhite]

And I'm pretty sure that most of them aren't in the game, since the standard townie role was "Evil Robot".

[rolandofthewhite]

Vote: pwnz

Maybe Chaotic knew something that we didn't?

[rolandofthewhite]

And sorry for letting out the townie secret.

I'm not very clever at this game...

[rolandofthewhite]

Good ol' paranoia.

[rolandofthewhite]

Eh... I'll

Unvote: pwnz

, I guess. No use voting so quickly. We've got plenty of time.

[rolandofthewhite]

I'm here. I just don't know who to vote. Like sycko said, almost everyone has been a little scummy at one point or another.

I'm tempted to vote for Coolbot, since he's been attacking pwnz non-stop even though pwnz insists that he isn't going to claim (although, a role name

would

be nice, pwnz, if you don't want to give what your role actually does...). Coolbot would just say he's lying anyways, though, so he's not really giving pwnz any impetus to do it.

Rite is also looking very suspicious. Voting for C_D, though it might have been a mistake, was quite a large mistake in my opinion. But, everyone has brain farts, I guess.

But I guess for now I'm going to

Vote: Cubsfan4life

. I admit I could be totally wrong, but spazzing out after inHim's post has made me a tad suspicious.

[rolandofthewhite]

I'm going to

Vote: Coolbot

. He pushed the pwnz vote

WAY

too far, and now we are one town-role less because of it (Crash Man was indeed a robot).

[rolandofthewhite]

Maybe pwnz had a different special role that wasn't a cop nor a doc? Maybe a role-blocker or something, which could also explain why no one was killed night 1?

Just an idea. I'm shooting into the breeze here.

[rolandofthewhite]

Source: http://www.mmhp.net/GameHints/MM2-Data.html#BubbleMan

Bubble Man is a small aquatic robot complete with fins and a mask that he doesn't really need. His Bubble Lead is certainly unique, for it is heavy except when underwater, yet flows like a bubble. Bubble Man also has a plasma cannon to keep you entertained while you are trying to dodge his bubbles, and he loves lairs with ceilings lined with spikes. The Metal Blade will slice and dice him quickly enough.

Bubble Lead... Some kind of shield? A self-protector, possibly?

Do not be fooled by how quickly this guy falls to the Air Shooter, for without this weapon you are in for a fierce battle. Crash Man will pace his room rapidly, jumping your shots when you fire and returning fire with his Crash Bombs. A thorough dousing of Bombs will make short work of any attacker, though the Air Shooter makes even shorter work of Crash Man. Don't enter this battle without it!

It says he can avoid shots and shoot back. Maybe some kind of Kamikaze, with a chance of failure?


I have absolutely

NO

idea about any of this guys. Does anyone else have any ideas whatsoever?

[rolandofthewhite]

I'm afraid that it was foolishness on my part.

But fortunately, none of the Mafia used the Evil Robot role to claim, so I'm hoping I didn't really hurt the town in the long run.

And Lulu, why couldn't one of the people already voting for pwnz put the hidden vote on him? It could have just as easily been one of them. Although, I agree with the rest of your logic, so

Unvote: Coolbot; Vote: Cubsfan4life

.

[rolandofthewhite]

I'm afraid that it was foolishness on my part.

But fortunately, none of the Mafia used the Evil Robot role to claim, so I'm hoping I didn't really hurt the town in the long run.

And Lulu, why couldn't one of the people already voting for pwnz put the hidden vote on him? It could have just as easily been one of them. Although, I agree with the rest of your logic, so

Unvote: Coolbot; Vote: Cubsfan4life

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Quote:

But fortunately, none of the Mafia used the Evil Robot role to claim, so I'm hoping I didn't really hurt the town in the long run.



How, pray tell, do you know they are mafia? Or are you just making more "foolish mistakes?" From where I'm coming, they could be pro-town or mafia.

I know that none of the Mafia used it, because

no one

else has claimed to be an Evil Robot whatsoever, true?

Roland- You say that you don't see why a current voter of Pwnz couldn't have cast the "????" vote yet you agree with the rest of it so you vote me. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF HER LOGIC! You might as well be casting a random vote.

That's not what I meant. I

DO

think that it could have just as easily been one of the five that voted for pwnz, but assuming that my logic is wrong, she could very well be right. That is why my vote goes to you for now, but I plan on changing it if we get any new information.

[rolandofthewhite]

Wow... Those are some weird anonymous voting rules.

So it could be anyone at this point? Since that sort of nulls Lulu's logic,

Unvote: Cubsfan4life

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Randal...? Hmm...

OMGUS Vote: sycko999

Just because you didn't even take the time to spell my name right.

Obviously sycko is saying that he is not a townie.

[rolandofthewhite]

OMGUS because you don't remember my name.

Meh... [/childishness]

Unvote: sycko999

[rolandofthewhite]

Ugh. This is a bad situation. I originally suspected both of them, particularly CoolBot, since he kept attacking pwnz, even though pwnz refused to claim.

But sycko has been looking more and more scummy in my eyes. He keeps insisting that Evil Robot may not be the townie role, when myself and CoolBot have both claimed that it is. I'm sorry I revealed that information in the first place. I could have saved us a lot of trouble by keeping my mouth shut.

If there are any other townies out there, would you please validate the Evil Robot role? I'm getting sick of everyone thinking I made it up.

I'm going to vote for sycko soon, unless he can defend himself for being so adamant that we might not townies.

What happens in the event of another tie, though?

[rolandofthewhite]

Hmm... That changes my opinion quite a bit. I didn't think that all of the Robot Masters were used? Are you absolutely sure that they are, sycko? If they are, that means that I am the only townie... And that sorta' sucks.

If there are any other townies,

PLEASE

speak up, so we can prove/disprove sycko's theory.

If no one else claims townie before the deadline... My vote is going to go towards CoolBot, now.

[rolandofthewhite]

A. Why do you not believe that I'm a townie?

B. Why shouldn't any other townies come out? If they did, it would disprove sycko, because frankly, we have no way of knowing if he is actually telling the truth.

I just don't want us to lynch someone pro-town just because we listened to sycko, although I

am

going to side with him on this one.

[rolandofthewhite]

Pray tell, sycko, why did you claim to be Flash Man, and then lynch the actual one? You would have no reason to lie unless you were Mafia.

Vote: sycko

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Whoa... That's true, isn't it? AniX and rite haven't said anything in forever.

FOS: AniX and rite

, but I'll hold my vote for a while, and see if they ever show up to say anything.

[rolandofthewhite]

Maybe they're constipated?

[rolandofthewhite]

You haven't been around that much either, rite...

[rolandofthewhite]

Hehe.

[rolandofthewhite]

Eep. I didn't realize that if we lynch wrong, we're doomed.

I agree with the logic on AniX. If he were anything but Mafia, they could have easily jumped in by now and lynched him, game-over. They've had adequate time to do so, but they didn't, so I'm willing to bet that AniX is indeed one of the Mafia.

I don't want to vote for him just yet, because we might be being led into a trap. Who knows? Lulu suggested it, and maybe she's Mafia trying to get us to vote for AniX?

[rolandofthewhite]

I think we should all unvote and discuss this before we do anything rash. We have plenty of time, and we can wait until the deadline until we have to vote, after all.

[rolandofthewhite]

...

Where is everyone?

[rolandofthewhite]

Here's my only problem with the situation:

I was in a newbie game where SpeedyQ and myself were Mafia, against 3 pro-town players. Speedy claimed doc, and since the other players had been earlier confirmed as townies, it came down to me and a falsely accused player as being Mafia. Speedy voted for the innocent player, and another player followed suit, with myself putting on the final vote that lynched him and won us the game.

So what if the same thing is happening here?

Lulu, whom everyone thinks it innocent, votes votes for the actually innocent AniX. One of her Mafia companions (Greg or rite) votes with her. Once a few townies join in, not knowing what is happening, the other member of the Mafia could throw on the final vote, lynching AniX and winning them the game.

I agree that AniX needs to speak up... But my gut is just telling me that this is

WAY

too easy.

Vote: lulu muumuu

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Lulu, whom everyone thinks it innocent,

votes votes

for the actually innocent AniX.

Oops. Change that to just "votes".

[rolandofthewhite]

How is that crap logic? I thought I explained it quite well. If you're going to put down my ideas, at least tell

why

you believe it to be crap logic, instead of just shouting "crap logic!" at the first opportunity and voting for me.

Here's the game if you wanted to see how it happened.

[rolandofthewhite]

I agree it could be any of them. but in NOTHALM, the active SpeedyQ, who was Mafia targetted the not-so-active Phonesnake. That's how we won.

In MegaMan, the active lulu muumuu is targetting the not-so-active AniX.

I was just drawing parallels. It's inordinately similar to NOTHLAM.

And I could just as well vote for rite or Greg, but if I think lulu is Mafia, there is no reason for me to change my vote.

Actually, I'm surprised you're so adamant that lulu is pro-town and AniX is Mafia, unless you know something we don't.

FOS: Cubsfan4life

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Sorry, everyone.

I was just amazed by how similar it was, since it was my one of my first games, and it stuck out strongly in my mind, but I see your point. We can find a scenario for almost anything.

Unvote: lulu muumuu, Vote: AniX

.

I hope we're right about this.

[rolandofthewhite]

If ANiX is scum [which I'm fairly confident of], Roland is next.

That's a little presumptuous, isn't it?

I'm not trying to protect AniX. I just wanted to give him the chance to speak in his defense, and present some other possibilities for those open-minded enough to consider that what they think isn't necessarily correct.

Everyone has failed to notice that rite was missing for quite a while as well, and as soon as he returns, he eagerly jumps on the AniX bandwagon. That, coupled with his assurance that "if AniX is Mafia, then I'm next", is why I

Unvote: AniX, Vote: rite

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Play what way? I at least had a reason behind my vote, whereas you voted for me out of spite. At least make that an OMGUS vote, rite.

[rolandofthewhite]

It wasn't a bad reason! I gave rational reasoning for it. Geez.

I have already stated my views. ANiX is scum. You tried to protect him, we got on your back, and you backed off, not wanting to look suspicious.

I didn't "back off". If you've learned anything about me in this game, it should be that I don't back off. I didn't back down defending pwnz, and after he was dead, CoolBot, and voilà! Both were robots! All I did was concede that my view may not be correct: something that you have refused to do.

I was going to lynch ANiX today, and wait for you tomorrow. But if you are going to be a jerk about it and vote me for a bad reason, then I'm going to get YOU lynched first, then wait for tomorrow.

Oh, are you? Not only do I find this presumptuous and rude, but it also makes you seem that you think you have total control of the vote. You're devil-may-care attitute suggest that you believe you have this game in the bag, and that is most definitely

not

an attitude that someone pro-town would be exhibiting, particularly when, if we lynch incorrectly, we lose the game.

All this, along with the fact that rite's lack of participation after he cast the "accidental" lynching vote on pwnz (waiting for the attention on him to ease?) should be proof enough to at least merit him several more votes.

[/angry rant]

[rolandofthewhite]

Er... Yeah. That.

[rolandofthewhite]

Yikes. Sorry, AniX. It was nice playing with you, I guess.

Although you shouldn't rely on your e-mail totally. Take a little initiative and check the forum without prompting, eh?

[rolandofthewhite]

I have to agree with CoolBot on this one. Dr. Wiley would almost certainly have doctor powers, otherwise it would be 3 Mafia vs. 9 powerless townies, which I don't find particularly plausible.

Confirm Vote: rite

.

[rolandofthewhite]

::bump::

What happened to everyone?

[rolandofthewhite]

Ugh. I really want us to lynch correctly again today, so think about this and not vote rashly.

[rolandofthewhite]

I have a random thought to throw in, I guess.

I noticed that when AniX was on the chopping block, he had enough votes where the Mafia could have simply jumped in very quickly and voted for him, ending the game right there. However, since they clearly had the chance but did not take it, it makes me wonder if AniX was indeed Mafia, and they were hesitant in lynching a fellow Mafia member. This might be totally off, but it just made me wonder.

FOS: CoolBot

, not for anything he has done, but for the actions (or lack of, rather ) surrounding AniX.

[rolandofthewhite]

Whoa... Altimaga said something.

[rolandofthewhite]

Hehe.

[rolandofthewhite]

Well, it seems to me that the Mafia are incapable of killing. They haven't killed a once yet.

I would vote No Lynch, but we're not allowed.

[rolandofthewhite]

Vote: Cubsfan4life

. He hasn't said anything in a while.

[rolandofthewhite]

I just wanted you in particular to speak up, because you've been fairly active until now.

But my wish has been sated.

Unvote: Cubsfan4life

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Vote: Greg T

. I think you've been pushing this thing on inHim just a little too far with no circumstantial evidence.

[rolandofthewhite]

Back!

Anyways, these are my thoughts for now:

me = townie
inHimshallibe = townie?
CoolBot = I'm still feeling odd about how AniX didn't get lynched while the Mafia had the opportunity, but I'm willing to blame that on lack of coordination on their part
lulu muumuu = townie?
Cubsfan4life = I find it odd that used to post so much, and has seemingly disappeared since we started killing scum...
Altimaga = Who knows?

My main question is this: why hasn't Dr. Wily claimed yet? Since it seems the Mafia can't kill, it seems like the perfect time to find another confirmed innocent.

[rolandofthewhite]

Back!

Anyways, these are my thoughts for now:

me = townie
inHimshallibe = townie?
CoolBot = I'm still feeling odd about how AniX didn't get lynched while the Mafia had the opportunity, but I'm willing to blame that on lack of coordination on their part
lulu muumuu = townie?
Cubsfan4life = I find it odd that used to post so much, and has seemingly disappeared since we started killing scum...
Altimaga = Who knows?

My main question is this: why hasn't Dr. Wily claimed yet? Since it seems the Mafia can't kill, it seems like the perfect time to find another confirmed innocent.

[rolandofthewhite]

::despises dial-up with the fire of a thousand suns::

[rolandofthewhite]

I thought for sure that Dr. Wily would have some special role, or at least know his role name rather than just being an Evil Robot.

And it's true that we do have a couple of free lynches, but I'd rather catch the Mafia sooner than later.

[rolandofthewhite]

Meh.

Vote: Cubsfan4life

. He seems to find something constructive to say once he gets a vote or two.

[rolandofthewhite]

Oops... I didn't see that he said something earlier today. Oh, well. I'll keep my vote for now.

[rolandofthewhite]

I don't think it's as much scummy behavior on your part as it is lack of participation.

[rolandofthewhite]

Good point. And we can afford to lynch wrong at least a couple more times. Let's finish this day up.

Vote: Altimaga

. Sorry, guy.

[rolandofthewhite]

Does that mean we won?

[rolandofthewhite]

Hmm... Suggestions, anyone?

[rolandofthewhite]

Point taken, pwnz.

[rolandofthewhite]

It's the only thing I can think of at the moment. Let's just get this over with.

Vote: CoolBot

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Maybe we should lynch Cubs today?

[rolandofthewhite]

Because you only seem willing to divulge information/add to the conversation when someone mentions your name to lynch.

Now that my plan to get you to return worked, what do you suggest we do?

[rolandofthewhite]

Good point, CoolBot. I'm always too lazy to go back and look at the past days.

This is really hard... I don't know who to believe. I'd like to hear inHim's opinion before I do anything else.

[rolandofthewhite]

It's important that no one votes yet. We need to discuss everything before we vote, because there is a person with the ability to double-vote out there, and if someone puts a vote on someone else, the double-voter could add the second and third, and the day would be over.

So does anyone have any ideas?

[rolandofthewhite]

Ok... Are lulu and Cubs dead?! Say something, guys. Anything. What are your suspicions? Just remember: don't vote!

[rolandofthewhite]

Any reasons why...?

[rolandofthewhite]

Where is lulu?

[rolandofthewhite]

Exactly. That's the chief reason that I don't suspect lulu. I've also got a gut feeling that it just isn't inHim, which is why I am considering voting for Cubsfan.

But before that, does the double-voter (if s/he is pro-town) want to come forward? It might help us out somehow, if it is a pro-town person. I'm pretty sure that they double-voter is Mafia, though.

[rolandofthewhite]

Oh, lord... Quagmire, is there any way we could extend it somewhat? We've been waiting this whole time for lulu and she just got back.

[rolandofthewhite]

Gar... I don't know what to think. Looking back at lulu and Cubs' voting history makes me suspicious of lulu and makes Cubs seem innocent (although voting history isn't that reliable. Scum vote for each other all the time to seem innocent). And when I look at their actions, and the fact that lulu seemed to know about the Evil Robot role as well, Cubs seems guilty and lulu seems innocent.

I'm going to reread the thread piece-by-piece and see what I can find.

[rolandofthewhite]

Ok... As guilty as Cubs seems, I think I'm going to vote for lulu. She seems to have been trying too hard throughout this entire game to not take sides, to not cast important votes, and to stay unnoticed and generally out of everyone's way, whereas Cubs hasn't been afraid to speak up and work for the good of the town.

I'm just hoping that my gut is right on this one. If it's not, then congratulations Cubs, and sorry everyone else.

Vote: lulu muumuu

.

[rolandofthewhite]

Ah, crap. I have a feeling that we lost.

[rolandofthewhite]

I'm sorry, everybody. I guess this had taught me a lesson: never deem someone innocent by their voting history alone, and always follow your first hunch.

[rolandofthewhite]

Really? Ha.