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Post Post #40 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:05 am

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Hi hi

VOTE: Annie Edison
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Post Post #45 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:09 am

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People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #2) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:10 am

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In post 46, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 45, Sleez wrote:People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.
interesting
What's interesting about it?
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Post Post #51 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:11 am

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Has anyone here ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?
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Post Post #55 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:12 am

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In post 53, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 48, Sleez wrote:
In post 46, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 45, Sleez wrote:People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.
interesting
What's interesting about it?
your phrasing
Not the fact people are being scummy?
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Post Post #60 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:13 am

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In post 56, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 51, Sleez wrote:Has anyone here ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?
I am the devil in the pale moonlight
HmmmHmmmHmm :)
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Post Post #66 (isolation #6) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 64, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 55, Sleez wrote:
In post 53, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 48, Sleez wrote:
In post 46, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 45, Sleez wrote:People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.
interesting
What's interesting about it?
your phrasing
Not the fact people are being scummy?
no...? considering theres been like 3 pages and you havent outlined who youre talking about
What would you say if I were talking about you?
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Post Post #67 (isolation #7) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:16 am

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Oh I might've said too much already.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:18 am

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In post 70, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 67, Sleez wrote:Oh I might've said too much already.
Probably not.

You indicated multiple scummy people, though.
2 or 3, give or take.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:19 am

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In post 72, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Sleez ignoring me is a tragedy
Just because I left you on read doesn't mean I didn't get the message.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:20 am

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In post 69, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 66, Sleez wrote:
In post 64, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 55, Sleez wrote:
In post 53, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 48, Sleez wrote:
In post 46, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 45, Sleez wrote:People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.
interesting
What's interesting about it?
your phrasing
Not the fact people are being scummy?
no...? considering theres been like 3 pages and you havent outlined who youre talking about
What would you say if I were talking about you?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No further questions.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #11) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:22 am

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In post 80, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 76, Sleez wrote:
In post 72, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Sleez ignoring me is a tragedy
Just because I left you on read doesn't mean I didn't get the message.

I'm infinitely disappointed you are not who I thought you were
Maybe this can be a new opportunity for you, then
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Post Post #97 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:34 am

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Shards are simply trading your mortality for power. What you do with it however determines how corrupt you become. Normal humans are not equipped to handle demonic energy, and eventually their soul will be lost. I believe that the benevolent should stay as far away from such temptation.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:36 am

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In post 98, Here There Be Dragons wrote:sounds hot tbh.
Hell is quite warm, yes.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:56 am

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Red X is to my liking, let me try.
In post 123, Medea the Alien wrote:Current "Cool shit I want to post but my wife slapped my hand because that is probably a dumb idea and I should feel bad" count: 4
[X]
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Post Post #138 (isolation #15) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:58 am

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This group of people are a bunch of busy bees.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #16) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:18 am

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VOTE: Medea

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Post Post #201 (isolation #17) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:23 am

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In post 189, Medea the Alien wrote:Like some of you voting me okay whatever but pooky going yomi level 1, pathetic~
We only ask the real and tough questions here: Is that scummy to you?
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Post Post #212 (isolation #18) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:28 am

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Everyone is playing Yomi. I prefer Yu-Gi-Oh instead.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #19) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:31 am

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Why did Medea say she wasn't going to just give out her reads and play more hands off, and then proceeded to give out her reads?
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Post Post #220 (isolation #20) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:31 am

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I like LLD.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #21) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:32 am

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In post 221, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 219, Sleez wrote:Why did Medea say she wasn't going to just give out her reads and play more hands off, and then proceeded to give out her reads?
Welcome to "Morph outside of morph"
Is Pooky scummy right now to you? Hi we're here again.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #22) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:36 am

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Let people answer for themselves Annie. Your opinion is in queue.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #23) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:43 am

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I hope you'll have an answer for me next time I come back, Medea. Bye for now.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #24) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:24 am

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VOTE: Lukewarm

Least comfortable vote on Medea, so much that even himself couldn't believe it. . Fraudulent behavior.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #25) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 412, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 402, Sleez wrote:VOTE: Lukewarm

Least comfortable vote on Medea, so much that even himself couldn't believe it. . Fraudulent behavior.
What does this mean?
You know what it means. This isn't a riddle for you to figure out, unless you're new usually your vote is meant to have purpose. Yet it didn't, and nothing you say to me feels like it comes from a process where you're concerned about reads.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #26) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:19 am

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I am almost certain you know what I'm saying and you think being befuddled could make people townread you.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:25 am

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I said exactly what I wanted to.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #28) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:57 pm

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Manatee has been absolved in my mind.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #29) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:00 pm

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Looking at Titus, Dragons, Lukewarm.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #30) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:07 pm

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Medea is awkward but not in a rousing manner.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #31) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:12 pm

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HURT: LLD
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Post Post #513 (isolation #32) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:15 pm

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Lukewarm continues to be very scummy.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #33) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:23 pm

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What does it take to become initiated into the hive from you all. Talk to me, ask me questions.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #34) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:30 pm

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In post 527, Annie Edison wrote:Sleez which of my reads do you disagree with snd why?
I don't see why AA9/Medea are scum together. Your lower end of reads are basically incative players and then Medea, which has been a large focus to you. I think at this point Medea has been talked enough to where it's becoming an agitation, and it can even be shown by the way Medea is responding right now. Why is Medea such an object of desire to you? Why is it to everyone. I see a lot being talked about around Medea but you're the only person who is really trying to figure her out. I give you credit to that end but nobody else.
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Post Post #533 (isolation #35) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:31 pm

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Lukewarm saw a fun little wagon then realized it might be a bad idea, and instead of owing up to the process made a convenient example for himself. He's very scummy.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #36) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:49 pm

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In post 536, Annie Edison wrote:Essentially my readslists traditionally work in a “clear from bottom up” sense and I’m typically much more confident about my townreads. I have no combined associatives for them as of this point.

Medea is a hydra of two really strong players that will make or break the game on whichever side they are on. They are both really good scum players, and as I’ve mentioned earlier I’m trying to hard carry this game. That means sorting out the heavy hitters ASAP, so I can take them out before they can take me out. Essentially, Im trying to find the scum that can carry despite their team and bring them down. I think that the game as a whole is confused about them, but the fact you see my solving versus a lot of others is I’m also kinda gunshy in general about eliminating friends. It’s something I’ve been working on, but it still rears its head at times (such as me not voting yet and wanting to be fairly confident before I do. I have a tendency to tilt if I fuck up so yeah)

Tldr- Basically I’m putting a lot of pressure on myself. Everyone in the game is focusing on Medea because both players are strong individually let alone together.

Does this make sense? I kinda just mind spewed. Might make it a bit easier to understand fmpov and most of the game can vouch for that

What did you think of my thoughts on AA9 not actually trying to sort me?
Your paragraph about Medea pretty much says you are paranoid and trying to weaponize said feelings before they can seemingly sway everyone else if they're scum due to their legacy. I don't think that's fair to them and I don't think it's productive. I also don't think you need to pressure yourself, glory is fleeting.

I have no thoughts on AA9. I looked at her ISO and she was mad about her questions not getting answered. Do you think that's fake?
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Post Post #550 (isolation #37) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:58 pm

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In post 546, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 510, Sleez wrote:HURT: LLD
Why
I want to see what she'd do with power.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #38) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:06 pm

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Talk of AA9 made me look at her bigger post a bit more.
In post 377, ArcAngel9 wrote:What about sending shards to mafia, since they are already are demons so sending shards doesn't affect them? I believe the mafia wins when convert at least 7 more town players into demons. Is my understanding of the setup is accurate? can someone validate and confirm on this?

This is probably untrue given that the mod listed the current demons as Low which is 0-2, and the scumteam is comprised of 3 last I checked the OP. I don't think this is a townslip.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #39) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:07 pm

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In post 560, Medea the Alien wrote:Have you played with LLD before? Do you think a shard is necessarily power here?
Going off my own theory yes.
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Post Post #588 (isolation #40) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:18 pm

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It's a nothing slip. I think mafia can not read the setup as we've surmised already. I also don't believe mafia automatically start off as demons.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #41) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 591, Snarky Fishes wrote:Are you sure you don't believe that Sleez?
How do you know it's not like there's direct evi-
oh wait
Someone else read the sample role PM finally.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #42) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:28 pm

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In post 598, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 550, Sleez wrote:
In post 546, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 510, Sleez wrote:HURT: LLD
Why
I want to see what she'd do with power.
[X]
So you don't want it?
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Post Post #606 (isolation #43) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:35 pm

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HEAL: LLD
HURT: Dunnstral
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Post Post #610 (isolation #44) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:41 pm

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In post 605, Medea the Alien wrote:Noted. From a game geek perspective I really want to delve into this. From a player perspective I'll stop there.
I don't think it would hurt. My theory is crafted upon the fact scum has an alternative win condition if a certain amount of people are demonic. There's no incentive for town to ever tempt themselves if there wasn't a trade-off for it, therefore it it's risk/reward. That being said, I don't know what the shards actually do. I am going to assume mafia does to some extent, so I would want to give shards to townies so they can give something to account for.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #45) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 2, borkjerfkin wrote:The number of current Demonic players
(living or dead)
of any alignment is equal to seven or more.
This is very important by the way. Be very careful about who gets shards, because killing them still adds to the count.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #46) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:45 pm

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In post 611, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 608, Snarky Fishes wrote:Can we talk about this whole turning people into demon's thing
Absolu-fucking-lutely not and you were nearly snapvoted for this.

Stop playing in the moment and fucking THINK about things.

You are giving me all sots of heartburn because you share a slot with ffery.

~Not PA, who is ALSO going the fuck to sleep.
No I don't agree with you. Let them perspective slip or ruminate to their own amusement.
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Post Post #660 (isolation #47) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:47 pm

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In post 658, ManateeGal wrote:guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I don't know what this is for.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #48) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:50 pm

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In post 663, Snarky Fishes wrote:Well Manatee, are you caught scum?
Why are you asking this you nitwit. It's not like she's going to say yes. If your immediate response is that you're testing her reaction when she's shown to already be a very reactionary person I will send you to your grave.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #49) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:50 pm

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In post 664, ManateeGal wrote:posting readslist always seems to be a shot in my own foot bc i misword what im trying to get at and get scumread for it
Dig your way out with a spoon. I have faith in you.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #50) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:52 pm

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In post 670, Annie Edison wrote:Thats why the hydra is named what it is, Sleez. It's just bell being snarky.

We aren't wagoning them. They're town.
Who's we?
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Post Post #682 (isolation #51) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:56 pm

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I don't look at the game backwards. My objective is to remove scummy people. Lukewarm is still scummy. Manatee thinks he's scummy too, it's just bonus for me.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #52) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:56 pm

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In post 677, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 666, Sleez wrote:
In post 663, Snarky Fishes wrote:Well Manatee, are you caught scum?
Why are you asking this you nitwit. It's not like she's going to say yes. If your immediate response is that you're testing her reaction when she's shown to already be a very reactionary person I will send you to your grave.
Look in the mirror. What do you see?
I'm frowning.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #53) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:57 pm

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In post 685, Annie Edison wrote:Turn the mirror upside down, now what do you see?
Frowning but I'm upside down.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #54) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:49 pm

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In post 753, Lukewarm wrote:When someone either scum reads me or has concerns, does it look like genuine concerns (sleez) or do they not (manatee, medea)
Explain this a bit more for me.
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Post Post #787 (isolation #55) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:06 pm

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What do your scumgame look like Lukewarm and why is it not this game?
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Post Post #795 (isolation #56) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:32 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #797 (isolation #57) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:36 pm

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I'll need a new target. Re-calibrating for now.
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Post Post #861 (isolation #58) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:54 am

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Annie I agree that you're town but I was left remiss with our conversation earlier about the topic of We. We being where I was even slightly hinting that I might vote Snarky Fishes and you shut it down by basically saying you were acting for the collective unconscious of town because you yourself thought they were town. This is destructive for D1 and people should vote whoever they want. That's the beauty of D1 and you don't give potential scum a prerogative so early. It's destructive and leads to confirmation bias, and very few people are good enough to have their confirmation bias be completely holistic D1.
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Post Post #863 (isolation #59) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:57 am

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Lukewarm moved null to me after observing him. I'm not impressed by the way he voted Medea but it seemed believable enough to where he wasn't going to change his story just from a little pressure. This trait makes me veer towards it being genuine, or at least something that won't ever get any traction. It's a decent enough alibi to where I want to shelve it for now.
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Post Post #864 (isolation #60) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:58 am

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I have very few people who I have liked posts from. Either you're all be intentionally obtuse for D1 or I'm just not vibing. I haven't vibed with Snarky Fishes for about 7 pages now, and continue to not do so. Is vibes a consummation of a scumread here? Someone paint my thoughts for me.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #61) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:01 am

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So both of your heads believe Snarky are in a do-not-touch scenario.

I would want more people to decide, or say something. I don't understand why your other head wants to carry and lead. Being a leader isn't all it's cracked up to be, but I do think the courage is town.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #62) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 866, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 864, Sleez wrote:I have very few people who I have liked posts from. Either you're all be intentionally obtuse for D1 or I'm just not vibing. I haven't vibed with Snarky Fishes for about 7 pages now, and continue to not do so. Is vibes a consummation of a scumread here? Someone paint my thoughts for me.
Is there something you want to talk about?

I've been kind of standoffish with you because although I'm townreading you, I'm not vibing with you either.
Few things. I think your other head (Bell) just rubs me wrong instinctively on tone. There's a lot of meandering in their posts outside of direct jabs to people through confrontation. I also don't feel like your head has anything definitive to say right now. Are you not a D1 player?
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Post Post #881 (isolation #63) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:22 am

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In post 879, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 874, Sleez wrote:
In post 866, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 864, Sleez wrote:I have very few people who I have liked posts from. Either you're all be intentionally obtuse for D1 or I'm just not vibing. I haven't vibed with Snarky Fishes for about 7 pages now, and continue to not do so. Is vibes a consummation of a scumread here? Someone paint my thoughts for me.
Is there something you want to talk about?

I've been kind of standoffish with you because although I'm townreading you, I'm not vibing with you either.
Few things. I think your other head (Bell) just rubs me wrong instinctively on tone. There's a lot of meandering in their posts outside of direct jabs to people through confrontation. I also don't feel like your head has anything definitive to say right now. Are you not a D1 player?
That's adorabell for you. He gets a lot of data from confrontation.

I'm the head that's been posting partial reads lists. I'm very much a D1 player, but I think my playstyle can look like "not doing much" to people who aren't familiar with how I play. Maybe it's a fair observation. Doesn't feel that way from inside my head, though.
I'm getting hydra whiplash. Bell seems showy with his thoughts even if they're very surface level. You tease more often but don't come together with your partner. It's like I have to treat you like two different entities instead of just one with slightly differing goals. Maybe you two should come together and make your own readlist and I'd be able to read your perspective from there.
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Post Post #882 (isolation #64) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:29 am

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In post 880, Snarky Fishes wrote:Sleez, what are your reads now?
  • I would eliminate Titus, Dragons, and AA9. I've come around to AA9 just from the fact she is not here. It's never a bad idea to launch those people.
  • I think Manatee is being truly misunderstood but don't think her provocateurs are entirely scum.
  • I don't know what Pooky is doing.
  • Medea is still awkward and weird. Her PA side is more direct but feels like I'm speaking to someone with a story of events instead of things playing out. I didn't like Bell-side chastising her in the way he did because they're just going to flail and have a good reason for it even if they're scum. It wasn't productive and now him constantly talking about her AtE is just going to make them spitefully AtE some more. Bell pretty much moved the goalposts and nothing else.
  • I want to like LLD. I still do to some regard, but Annie's talk about people being afraid to approach LLD is interesting.
  • I don't think Spiffeh has done anything objectionable. I'd want to know more why Bell believes the mouse in his words is scum.
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Post Post #884 (isolation #65) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:33 am

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Medea is just going to be righteous regardless of alignment. You've given her reason to do so. That's what I'm saying and what I don't like about Bell, is that he has to understand this by now. He just kept going on and on about the AtE and now they're being even more closed off than before.
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Post Post #886 (isolation #66) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:39 am

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In post 885, Here There Be Dragons wrote:You've offered more reasons why you dislike players who arent on your scum list than the ones that are.
AA9 is inactive. Titus seems unfamiliar to anything going on and doesn't seem like she cares. You speak on your own terms but I don't think it reflects of anything realistic. I dislike when you come around and talk yourself out of something but don't seek out other people in the process. You three to me are the people who stand out the most by simply acting in a way where I feel you're not working with others, which in D1 is most pivotal and what town should be doing. Just feeling people out and going from there.
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Post Post #888 (isolation #67) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:41 am

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This is why I'm fine with Manatee. I see the process, and her means of trying to work through it. Her apologies about being messy didn't seem like an excuse rather she just doesn't trust herself. I like that she seemed unguarded in that moment and just let it happen instead of pretending it didn't. She owned up to her own mistakes because she really wanted to have her thoughts get out there regardless.
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Post Post #890 (isolation #68) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:44 am

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In post 889, Here There Be Dragons wrote:yours, i mean.

don't think you're ever going to like me.
Is that feeling mutual? I'm asking because I don't know where you become comfortable. My impression is that you're not and it impedes you. I think this is merely because you're not town but surely you have a right to defend yourself.
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Post Post #893 (isolation #69) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:51 am

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I don't see Medea being culled for AtEing. It's not beneficial at this rate. If you think they're scum then at least interrogate them with a different approach. You don't need to invalidate yourself if you think the AtE is coming from scum, but it cannot be your only reason.
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Post Post #898 (isolation #70) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:56 am

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I don't want you to defend them. I'm not really defending Medea either. I don't townread their behavior and have shown I would vote them. I need a different angle from you two then just AtE AtE AtE.
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Post Post #899 (isolation #71) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:58 am

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In post 894, Here There Be Dragons wrote:
In post 890, Sleez wrote:
In post 889, Here There Be Dragons wrote:yours, i mean.

don't think you're ever going to like me.
Is that feeling mutual? I'm asking because I don't know where you become comfortable. My impression is that you're not and it impedes you. I think this is merely because you're not town but surely you have a right to defend yourself.
I do feel as though I'm going to have trouble meshing with your playstyle as well, yes, but I'm not allowing that to become a scumread at this time as it seems like a style issue. You're brusque and I have some trouble tracking your thought processes.

I don't feel uncomfortable. uncertainty is something I live with (being assured is at baseline a scumtell for me, but i know that most players in this game are aware of that, so if i were scum i would probably manufacture uncertainty anyway). I can see why it would come off as scummy to someone who isn't used to me, that's a common experience when i venture outside playing with people who know me.

At first, I thought you were an alt of someone who knows the players in this game, but it's increasingly seeming like that isn't the case, so I'm still figuring out what your deal is.
Yes I am completely detached from this group. It is odd to deal with at times so I have to go with what I know. You speak on your uncertainty so could you at least tell me what you're so uncertain about? Unless you mean it instinctively comes from yourself and that's how I should be reading it.
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Post Post #903 (isolation #72) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:01 am

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In post 900, Here There Be Dragons wrote:it's so interesting seeing someone from outside our little bubble trying to process the way y'all interact with each other.

i suppose my own wording of the above sentence reveals that this exchange does look genuine from sleez to me.
I am hoping that you don't dismiss me simply because I am not apart of it.
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Post Post #989 (isolation #73) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:41 pm

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I think I understand why the change was made. It doesn't directly out anything but it just makes my own theory much stronger.
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #74) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:25 pm

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VOTE: ArcAngel9
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #75) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:32 pm

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I think Manatee's wagon is mostly comprised of town. Maybe one scum in there.

Scum isn't really interested in touching Manatee, they're afraid it's gonna fall off. I've been looking for the people who have been playing with their votes. This thread needs more voting.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #76) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:33 pm

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If Manatee is scum however then that could mean the exact opposite. There's no apparent credit to get towards Manatee.

I still believe in Manatee being town, so not compromising.
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Post Post #1069 (isolation #77) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:35 pm

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I would float LLD, Manatee, Annie all to the next day. I would actively be against these eliminations.

The rest of you I'm figuring out. If I'm wrong about LLD then Annie's thought earlier about who refusese to interact with her is important. I won't be talking about it yet.
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #78) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:51 pm

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And I have issue with people being hush about it. Scum already know what the shards do very likely, it's mechanic plays into their win condition.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:56 pm

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I would even say that my theory is that while yes, town can use shards, scum actually wants to be the one to get them.

Look at what bork said. Look at what Medea said. Medea said they're a demon right now. That's 1. Is there 2? I would say if you're a demon go ahead and claim because it's numbers advantage.
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #80) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:03 pm

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Bork likely readjusted the numbers because there is probably 1 demon who is scum and 1 demon who is town. We can mechanically assume Medea is the town demon until proven otherwise.

The other 2 mafia are likely humans.
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #81) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:07 pm

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In post 1085, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 1084, Sleez wrote:there is probably 1 demon who is scum and 1 demon who is town
Yes... but you shouldn't have said this out loud, to hopefully bait the claim. I thought that's what your previous post was doing when you called for demon claims.
I understand I could've caught someone like that, but it's dirty. I was thinking outloud and cared less about setting a trap. We're just different people.
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #82) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 1089, Snarky Fishes wrote:Can I stop to point out how ironic it is that someone named sleez is talking about morality, fairness and an even playing field.
I embrace it in different ways.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #83) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:38 pm

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In post 1106, Spiffeh wrote:@Sleez can you explain why you changed your mind about Lukewarm?

@Bell We can call AA a dead slot when she gets prodded/replaced, it is not even 36 hours into the game

I was basically a "dead slot" when you voted for me. I don't have a problem with it because clearly you felt I'd done something to warrant a vote from you.

I feel AA has done enough to warrant a vote from me. What's the difference?
You'll get to it. Keep reading.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #84) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:12 pm

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Undecided about Lukewarm after reading. Not even close to a townread but there's something missing in his posts. I looked back and everything he says is only towards people. There is no independent thought or solving. What gives.
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #85) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:14 pm

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In post 364, Lukewarm wrote:@ffery, what is cabd's "stated" read on you?
In post 360, Lukewarm wrote:I was asking to dig into a very specific thing that looked a bit inconsistent. You choosing not to answer and instead insult is strange
In post 354, Lukewarm wrote:Cabd, what is your read on ffery?
In post 339, Lukewarm wrote:UNVOTE:

I am not ready for a cobra kai
Lukewarm admitted that he feels a bit pressured about the people here. I wonder if that's affecting him.

I would tell Lukewarm if he's reading this that I would want him to post and not feel pressured. Just constantly seems like he's holding back.
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #86) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:22 pm

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In post 1149, Medea the Alien wrote:{ManateeLass}
This one is wrong and I will fight you on it.
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #87) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:25 pm

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I've worded it before in this very thread but if I speak on my reasoning it completely reveals who I am.

I get the impression you know already. If you do, then I'll stop fronting.
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Post Post #1186 (isolation #88) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:28 pm

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It's been obvious for a long time now, yeah.

What can I say, I like doing favors.
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #89) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:30 pm

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I'm not going to spell it out though. All I'm going to say is that I'm willing to speak more openly. I think Manatee isn't scum because I believe lesser scum are more inclined to give out reads at the drop of a hat. You know, look like they're doing something and being organic. Nothing about Manatee seems rushed, which bodes well for her behavior earlier about her own confidence. I don't believe this is a front and I expect scum who either 1) don't like being scum 2) are not very good at it to not be able to tap into their own stream of consciousness. So they pretend they know. I don't really see that from her.
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #90) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:31 pm

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If that last post didn't spell it out then I'm just going to play none the wiser.
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #91) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:34 pm

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I don't trust you yet Medea. I think you not seeing what I see in Manatee is a big problem.
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #92) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:40 pm

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You are such a bastard.
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #93) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:41 pm

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I still want to play on this account. I like the avatar.

I'm unwnd. Jokes over
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Post Post #1210 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:42 pm

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Now you should
absolutely see
what I do given we just got out of a game co-dunking on Manatee.
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #95) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:45 pm

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How can you look at Manatee and think she would do the same exact shit she got clapped for last time. Even the most foolish of people know when a mistake happens, and the only thing that could be said is her openly being like 'i wanted to be scum to prove myself' and 'i want to work on my emotions when i get scumread' is the perspective slip you're looking for where she's spewing guilty conscience
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:45 pm

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In post 1219, Annie Edison wrote:Unwnd why aren’t you townreading bell
Ffery side leaves me null
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:49 pm

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In post 1224, Annie Edison wrote:Unpack that for me?
For some reason me and ffery never vibe despite believing in her competence and the way she goes about the game. The logic itself is presentable, but there a ton of blemishes. I think the seated paranoia of Medea felt congested and her talking herself into it and then back out of it was not great to look at. I'm basically only
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #98) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:50 pm

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In post 1229, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1208, Sleez wrote:I still want to play on this account. I like the avatar.

I'm unwnd. Jokes over


[?]
Just playing a character. I told Borkie I was gonna social experiment to see what'd happened if I were an anime girl.

Sort of like Pooky, but none of the flirting.
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:51 pm

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Pooks is gonna freak.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:52 pm

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@LLD

I changed it. I'm still slightly in character but the jig is up.
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #101) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:54 pm

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In post 1232, Snarky Fishes wrote:Uh, you played Flavorleaf's fairy game right?

I almost totally ignored Ircher's approach and we only really talked about our reads. It was to the point players were pretty much "bell's town, but Ircher's not"
Yeah and I townread your slot I think. FFery is null because I don't know if I'm ready to believe you wouldn't help her. I know it sounds like I'm talking about you as the problem but. It's more like I don't understand why ffery wouldn't ask you. And then you two would come back with something.
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #102) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:55 pm

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In post 1207, Snarky Fishes wrote:Can I please have like half the confidence Sleez seems to have in their reads.
Just stop giving a shit and accept it's D1 and let it ride.
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:55 pm

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In post 1237, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 1228, Sleez wrote:
In post 1224, Annie Edison wrote:Unpack that for me?
For some reason me and ffery never vibe despite believing in her competence and the way she goes about the game. The logic itself is presentable, but there a ton of blemishes. I think the seated paranoia of Medea felt congested and her talking herself into it and then back out of it was not great to look at. I'm basically only
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What makes you think I've not leaned hard on Bell to avoid all the ways I go wrong when playing with scum-Cabd?
What are the ways you go wrong? I don't think I comprehend.
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:57 pm

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Medea not agreeing with me will be an extremely huge problem. So much that I was willing to reveal myself.
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #105) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:58 pm

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It's not just not agreeing with me in general, no

It is literally just that one read.
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #106) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:01 pm

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Paranoia almost consumed Notty earlier. When I wanted to reel him back in it wasn't because I was saying 'this is wrong', rather I believed it could be done differently. Unfortunately this is yet another game where Medea (Cabd) makes themselves a target that dies before people can start questioning why they're not. They've basically become self-resolved to where if they're still alive by D3 and beyond you should kill them with no discretion.
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #107) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:02 pm

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In post 1247, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1241, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1235, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1230, Sleez wrote:
In post 1229, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1208, Sleez wrote:I still want to play on this account. I like the avatar.

I'm unwnd. Jokes over


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Just playing a character. I told Borkie I was gonna social experiment to see what'd happened if I were an anime girl.

Sort of like Pooky, but none of the flirting.
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I didn't mean to offend you. I like to roleplay and I considered this account to be as such. If you are uncomfortable with me on this account I will simply not post on it.
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #108) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:05 pm

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In post 1248, Sleez wrote:Paranoia almost consumed Notty earlier. When I wanted to reel him back in it wasn't because I was saying 'this is wrong', rather I believed it could be done differently. Unfortunately this is yet another game where Medea (Cabd) makes themselves a target that dies before people can start questioning why they're not. They've basically become self-resolved to where if they're still alive by D3 and beyond you should kill them with no discretion.
This is basically where I stand with Medea forever because I know people will treat their slot as too much of an asset to risk launching on D1. That's just factual regardless of how paranoid you can be. The AtE was egregious but I do that shit too. Both alignments.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #109) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:10 pm

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It was a lot of blowing smoke. I think it's very possible they are the demon who is scum as well. It won't happen however, and as far as Pooky's involvement with the whole CABD IS USING HIS WIFE TO NOT GET READS earlier on was just lolpooky things

It's null, but that flashwagon on Medea if town probably is very telling, so if Medea dies anytime soon then scum fucked up.
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #110) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:12 pm

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That's where I didn't really like Lukewarm. Lukewarm saw how dangerous it'd be to even vote Medea and he backed off. It was the worst vote and it seems that Medea agrees.

I just don't know if I'm entirely sold on it being a scum vote. He had a good point about how he sets himself up for failure doing what he did.

This game has left me a bit cold with some of you, so I eventually defaulted to just kill the inactive. It worked before, it will probably work again. People have to learn and then I'll stop doing it.
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #111) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:13 pm

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In post 1255, ManateeGal wrote:
Spoiler: pile of shlock
i feel like theres a huge gap in the way i approach the game in comparison to the other players and it just makes me feel super lost oftentimes. i dont know if the gap stems from the fact im a lot younger then most everyone or its just experience but i feel like everyone else is on an analytic level im really just not capable of performing, and its getting me in shit in ways i wouldnt where i used to play. its just demoralizing feeling like im kind of a little specimen everyone studies, and it doesnt feel like theres a solution beyond improving which is not happenening the way i want it to. its not even the votes that. im gonna reread and try to do some analysis and just ask to be taken seriously when i return
Literally just post whatever you want to and then people will sort it themselves. I have no expectation and don't treat people as more valuable than others.
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #112) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:15 pm

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In post 1263, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 1259, Sleez wrote:This game has left me a bit cold with some of you, so I eventually defaulted to just kill the inactive. It worked before, it will probably work again. People have to learn and then I'll stop doing it.
Who fits that criteria here? The game starting on a weekend kind of warps the data imo.
AA9/Titus just looking at postcount.

I wouldn't even say AA9/Titus/Dragons being my PoE is a crowning achievement, it's just what I would deem to be realistic. I was a bit annoyed (no offense, notty) when I was trying to poke at Fishes and then he started talking about We.
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #113) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:16 pm

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I feel good about the people I don't want to kill.

I feel less about the people I'm sorting.

I think the people who we kill could reap scum or get them to do something either way.
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #114) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:17 pm

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Yeah I would say I'm sorting you right now.
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #115) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:27 pm

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Asked bork to rep in unwnd when he wakes up.

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