2235: Gensokyo ~ END ~

[Sanae]

first!

[Sanae]

VOTE: NorweegianboyEE

[Sanae]

I think you hair looks gorgeous dear!

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Sanae]

Btw if anyone is curious that long post is definitely from Norwee.

You sound like a Jester

[Sanae]

I shall pierce the veil between the worlds.

[Sanae]

Btw if anyone is curious that long post is definitely from Norwee.

This is quite the confident claim. Any insight into Norwee’s aim?

It is a direct contradiction to 46

I think Yukari wants to be eliminated.

[Sanae]

Luckily jester doesn't exist in this game!

Why can't Jester exist in this game?

[Sanae]

2) I confirm the existence of exclusively one-mafioso faction with 3 members. There may or may not be a third-party.

This is the only thing I see from the rules about 3P

[Sanae]

Meanwhile while we run up Gamma for an RVS reason, we ignore Aaron.

Sneaky beings such as I flit in and out. When I have thoughts, naturally, the game will receive them. I am currently searching for a dance partner and have yet to find one. Perhaps I'll have to make do with the kind sir with the red hair if this continues - he seems like the best dancer here.

*waves hands frantically at the cute mysterious gentleman*

[Sanae]

Oh Hello Lady Sanae! I quite like your midnight blue dress ... in fact it matches quite well with my midnight blue tie. Would you care to dance?

*blushes*

I would be delighted to dance with you Sir Aaron!

[Sanae]

We probably shouldn't talk about it

*hits Lukewarm with a stick*

[Sanae]

Sanae smiles as she feels Aaron's hands rise up and the charming young man takes the lead, his fingers feel like smooth silk in her hands.
She tries to focus on the words he's saying but they seem to fall out of the sky like cherry blossoms, so soft and beautiful to behold.
The music turns and he dips her to the floor - her hair dropping gently down across the floor like an emerald waterfall spilling into a lake.
Her eyes closed, she feels like time stops, but for just a moment, the way he holds her feels so

safe

About Yukari:

I like to make weird guesses as to why people do what they do.

It's fun for me and the more outlandish the theory the more memorable it is for me if I'm

right

If I'm wrong I just pretend I never said it in the first place.

I think it makes sense Yukari is jealous, I think any girl would be to see me enjoying the attention of such a charming and handsome young man!

[Sanae]

Sanae feels herself hang for what seems like an eternity, her entire weight supported by Aaron's arm on the small of her back,
She feels as light as a feather she sways in his arm, she could hang here forever and be happy - he pulls her back up into him, her head on his shouler,
Her hair flips through the air and lands all over him, she feels slightly dizzy, a sense of vertigo as she regains her senses - it is like surfacing from a long dive.
He supports her weight and sways to the slowing of the music, her legs feel weak under her as she holds him for the little time left in the dance.

He has a big grin on his face and many other people to meet,
She can't help but feel a tinge of jealousy that he has to go away.
He laughs as he shows her a magic trick,
The way his hands feel on her hair..
She hasn't felt so happy in a long time.

Thank you for the dance,
I will treasure it and hope we could meet again.
Know that I trust you deeply and believe it's impossible someone with evil intentions to touch my heart.
Know that not even death itself could keep me from finding myself in your arms again.


*curtsies*

[Sanae]

But, I don't know that that would really matter in this flavor? Never played these games

Flavor actually matters a lot because if you understand the flavor you can kinda guess what kind of role they have.
As for me, I have 0 reason to hide my flavor because anyone who knows Touhou will know what I picked when I joined as this alt lol.

That's true!

Good thing nobody will be able to guess who I am!

[Sanae]

VOTE: Lukewarm


Why are you so shy this game?

[Sanae]

We should stop RPing so the fun police can't complain and actually have to scum hunt :3

[Sanae]

We should stop RPing so the fun police can't complain and actually have to scum hunt :3

Do you think scum is hiding among the fun police?

It's an easy thing to complain about if you are having trouble fitting in to the flow of the conversation.

I would guess one of the people making serious faces is actually an enemy.

[Sanae]

I like Luke's norwee townread on this page the best!

It's so fleshed out and thoughtful.

VOTE: Kilgamayan

You write so many words but there isn't a lot in there.

I don't think you are sorting me.

[Sanae]

It's hard for me to express what I mean about Kilga's posting as I don't have access to a computer because I've been moving and the internet is not set up yet at the new address.

I'll elaborate more tonight when I go to my parent's house and can use my laptop.

I think he is going out of his way to scumread me in a way that doesn't feel like a townie approach to sorting.

[Sanae]

I don't think you are sorting me.

What posts of yours exactly do you think you can be sorted with?

When I talk about sorting I am talking about interacting in a way to determine alignment.

The way he is approaching me feels like he is not very interested in figuring out what my alignment is.

[Sanae]

I like Aaron, Norwe, Titus and Lukewarm the best currently.

I would still like to vote off Kilga, this isn't some omgus thing where I'm being ridiculous because someone dares to SUSPECT me.

I usually do not scumread people who vote for me if they have some kind of reason that makes sense to me, it's just that he doesn't have any depth to his read, it's just "Sanae is roleplaying lets kill her" -> "Sanae isn't doing anything let's kill her" which doesn't even make sense as a transition.

Like if you wanted to observe me forming reads/interactions via roleplay, you could just let me roleplay, instead you call it scummy and then now you complain when I stop roleplaying?

Yes you made me stop doing that thing I thought was fun that I was doing and I stopped it for you so I'm not exactly ecstatic to log in and play normally when I clearly got dressed up to play in a fun roleplay way. Is this really a big surprise for you that when you make people stop doing the thing they want to do they get mad and stop logging in?

If noone is interested in voting for Kilga by tomorrow I'm gonna just give up and sheep.

[Sanae]

aww that sucks : (

I was really looking forward to playing with Maria.

What am I supposed to be wishing for and how do I submit a wish?

[Sanae]

Luke can you and Aaron stop fighting you are both precious to me and I'm pretty sure you're just both town <3

Stop trying so hard to find the bad and try to find the goodness ^,^

[Sanae]

btw what am I supposed to wish for when the Mod asks for wishes to be submitted?

[Sanae]

Kakeguri Addicts [7]: Gamma Emerald, Titus, RedRider, SirCakez, Lukewarm, Yukari Yakumo, NorweegianboyEE [HAMMER!]

I think wishing for it to be publicly declared how many mafia are on this wagon would be good.

Any objections to that wish?

[Sanae]

still nothing

[Sanae]

I have a one shot ability that allows me to open a PT with a dead player.

I think it would make sense to do it now with Aaron in order to find out if he has any useful information for us.

Does anyone have any objection to this?

Also I wished for a loud parity cop between LLD/Luke but Unwnd didn't include that in the list for some reason?

[Sanae]

I don't see how that would help us?

Aaron would give us a cop investigation result - isn't that much better?

[Sanae]

I would guess Titus shot Kop since I doubt the Mafia would shot Kop and I don't think Kop shot himself.

[Sanae]

FYI I’m assuming the game is 9:3:1 rn

this is public information we started at 9:3:1 so right now it is 7 town vs 2 mafia.

[Sanae]

How would we even know you weren't just faking everything?

You can think of ways to verify that I am in a PT with Aaron?

[Sanae]

are there things you know about Aaron that I would be able to ask him and get a response to prove that I am in a PT with him?

[Sanae]

I could add Titus instead if you know her better and there is a way to verify but I think Aaron is the better choice since he is an investigative role and could have useful results from last night.

[Sanae]

ok I've pmed my choice to unwnd

[Sanae]

It is permanent until I die.

[Sanae]

oh I didn't know it would have a thread announcement :<

well i'll let you know what Aaron says when he gets to the PT

[Sanae]

are you still going to stubbornly insist I'm scum :<

[Sanae]

Aaron says you are mafia! :O

[Sanae]

He says he is asking unwnd about something

[Sanae]

yayayayayayyaya

VOTE: kilgaaaa


aaron said he targeted sircakes last night but he didnt tell me his result

[Sanae]

?

i have always wanted to yeet kilga

i know what sircakes role is from aaron and I don't think he is mafia from the role description and I can share what his role is if people want me to but I don't see the point in doing so?

[Sanae]

@cakes

aaron told me to ask you what yen is

[Sanae]

he wants you to explain it in a way that only he can understand

he apologizes for not being able to return your result to you as he is dead

[Sanae]

@Sanae 1184: Has nothing from the Kakeguri train or the multiple flips we've seen since the end of Day 1 really stood out to you more than early-to-mid Day 1 verbal jousting?

Did something happen that should make me think you're town?

I don't really see how the flip makes you look better?

[Sanae]

maybe the wishes got lost in unwnd's inbox

[Sanae]

do I need to move my vote so we can get an elim

[Sanae]

I'm kind of worried rn that everyone is just town and that's why we're stuck

this almost feels like d1 on repeat

[Sanae]

I think it's between Kilga - LLD - Yukari.

[Sanae]

Aaron says his solve is Kilga/Norwee but he did say he thought you were 3P so I am not sure how much attention he is actually paying to this game.

LLD hasn't done anything that makes me think she is town, the only thing in her favor for me is that it doesn't make sense for a mafia to have no vote but I don't know if her votelessness will apply for parity and I don't trust her to tell us if it doesn't.

[Sanae]

Yeah Kop already flipped 3P so you should forward that to Aaron

I have told him this already : )

[Sanae]

[Sanae]

I am town tho >:(

[Sanae]

Shoot, ah well. Sorry for vanishing, my usual window of being able to post was slammed shut last night by dealing with Covid exposure concerns. Wish I could have done y'all better.

Nothing that's happened in the last 36 or so real-time hours has made me think any less that it's two of Cakez/Sanae/Norpiece. Cakez and Sanae put exceedingly little effort into justifying voting for me, and Norpiece being the deadline hammer twice now has prevented him for having to take any really meaningful stances at any point this game.

I can vote for either Nor or Cakes if Kilga flips green here.

I won't protest very much if you decide to vote me out though it will be quite bad to be down town and going to mylo tomm.

[Sanae]

ayyayayayaa

who r we killing now

[Sanae]

VOTE: Yukari

[Sanae]

well we do have 4 people online so we can do it!

aaron says he wants to eliminate regrider because of how uncomfortable he seems around the Kilga wagon

[Sanae]

I DIDN’T REALIZE SUBMITTING IT WOULD TRIGGER IT IMMEDIATELY

at least you didn't do it while we were all asleep!

[Sanae]

we don't have the votes to eliminate Yukari if no1 else signs on I think

[Sanae]

I am going to guess Yukari is Yukari

[Sanae]

VOTE: RegRider


go go go go go

[Sanae]

i'll check back in 30m if i need to move my vote

[Sanae]

we need 5 votes to elim someone

[Sanae]

I am falling asleep but I will set an alarm to wake up and vote in 1 hour

[Sanae]

I am here!

[Sanae]

what's the plan?

[Sanae]

I don't see why NorweeBoy is alive if he can actually clear people with a role delayer. It seems to be a very bad idea for scum to do that?

[Sanae]

I'm thinking LLD is maybe Ascetic Scum and trying to set up a endgame she can win because she went very quickly from "just kill me my reads are bad" to "lets use norwegianboy as a role delayer" and mechwin this game please delay me.

[Sanae]

I don't understand why scum would not get rid of Norwee since they know he can clear one person per night? Esp with Yukari claimed to be protecting Gamma?

[Sanae]

what questions?

[Sanae]

I'm thinking LLD is maybe Ascetic Scum and trying to set up a endgame she can win because she went very quickly from "just kill me my reads are bad" to "lets use norwegianboy as a role delayer" and mechwin this game please delay me.

Oh i didn’t consider ascetic.

Again, the plan doesn't lose to Ascetic because I am agreeing to die in a certain order and also am voteless. The second I get a vote, people can kill me.

Next possible problem?

It's easy to say today that you can kill me tommorrow

I am sure you will find a new excuse tommorrow

[Sanae]

How is RegRider confirmed town?

[Sanae]

ok RegRider and SM are confirmed town

[Sanae]

uh how would I know that?

[Sanae]

yes

[Sanae]

Because you’d be concerned about who i target?

I would have just killed you last night if I was scum?

[Sanae]

I am not good with numbers Norwee hold me

[Sanae]

I have to go in ~10 minutes to take a class and then I have dinner can we hurry up please

[Sanae]

yea but now I am in suspense and it's going to bother me all night

[Sanae]

doesn't it make more sense for Luke to hide indefinitely behind Norwegian Boy while you protect Norwegian Boy?

[Sanae]

if LLD is a scum Ascetic then the Hiding wouldn't work right?

[Sanae]

I meant Strange Matter when I said Luke sorry SM!

[Sanae]

good night Norweeee!

[Sanae]

Ok so how about this:

We eliminate LLD today.

If the game isn't over->

NorwegianBoy delays Me or Gamma.
Yakuri protects NorwegianBoy
SM hides with NorwegianBoy


If we wake up tommorrow with a nightkill, let's assume it's RegRider since he is conftown.

One of me/gamma will be cleared from Norwe,
SM will be clear

Possible killers: Yakuri, One of Me/Gamma.
Conftown: SM/One of Me/Gamma

We eliminate the one of me/gamma Norwe didn't delay.

If game still isn't over,

we eliminate Yakuri the next day and this should be winning as long as Norwe isn't scum?

[Sanae]

If we treat Norwe is conftown I think this will win us the game on lock.

[Sanae]

no because if LLD is ascetic scum the delayer wouldn't work on her

[Sanae]

it actually would explain why Norwee is alive today instead of having been nightkilled last night

[Sanae]

This is actively worse than killing you first because of my immortality. That your plan works better with you dying first, means you should agree to die first, if town.

your "immortality" is just something you claimed but isn't verified and I'm not sure how it's relevant in any way.

why would town even claim immortality? wouldn't you rather soak up a nightkill?

[Sanae]

I mean why do you even care what the elim order is and why do you want to be "blocked" by norwee so bad if you are not ascetic scum?

[Sanae]

it's pretty strange just yesterday after Kilga flipped scum you were all "just elim me my reads suck"

and now you are saying "trust my plan, block me and prove that i'm town"

I'm guessing Norwee's block doesn't quite work on you and you thought of this plan to stay alive by keep norwee alive since that's pretty much the only reason norwee would be alive today.

[Sanae]

D4 Lim LLD <this should end the game>

----

N4 Norwee Delays Gamma
N4 Yukari Protects Norwee
N4 SM hides with Norwee

if all three are town we should open tommorrow with either a soft-guilty on gamma or if there is a NK outside then you can elim me -> Yukari to finish the game - no possible suspects left.

[Sanae]

Also Mokou ascetic doesn’t really make sense for me.

I'm not trying to outguess the mod, I am trying to mech-gurantee our winning this game

[Sanae]

It's really weird to me that nobody else seems concerned about Norwee being alive today

[Sanae]

Norwee as claimed can clear 1 person per night.

We already have SM as confirmed innocent.

Why did the scum choose to leave Norwee alive instead of shooting Norwee and letting him confirm? It's not like the scum can outrace Norwee clearing people.

The most obvious explanation for me is that scum are not worried about being targetted by Norwee - which means whoever is trying to get themselves "cleared" by being "roleblocked" is the mafia.

[Sanae]

If I'm wrong about LLD you have 2 elims after this to kill me/yukari and still lock-win this game.

I do not think I am wrong and I am very worried she will be able to win this game off "mech" if you allow her to continue living.

[Sanae]

Even if you protect Norwee, it is better for scum to shoot at Norwee and have a chance of killing Norwee rather than let Norwee clear people.

A blocked shot clears noone.

[Sanae]

I am happy to die the day after you but I am fairly sure there will be no day after you die LLD

[Sanae]

If you're town you don't actually have any incentive to argue with me since I am agreeing to die the day after you

[Sanae]

Look, killing Sanae today is the play and Sanae's arguments for why we should essentially follow the same plan, but with Sanae in my spot instead are... laughably scummy.

this is reductionist - she is hand-waving my arguments about why this game state makes perfect sense with her trying to set up a win by saying that I am simply repeating her plan with a changed order of elims.

This is patently not true - I am not volunteering to be "block-cleared" by norwee, I am volunteering to be eliminated tommorrow.

That's not the same thing.

If LLD flips scum today - the game is over.

If LLD flips town today - Norwee blocks Gamma and we have 2 eliminations left to kill myself/Yukari.

There is no way this ends any other way but a town win.

She has no reason to argue against this except she is scum and really doesn't have a choice here.

[Sanae]

Didn't SM say they cleared Norwe?

[Sanae]

if LLD is ascetic scum she elims you and shoots through norwee's block and we lose

in my proposed solution the game ends no matter what my role is because you vote me out tomm if LLD flips town.

[Sanae]

I have no confidence that you will be able to best LLD 1v1 in the endgame if it comes to that.

Even if you believe I am scum and LLD is town, this plan wins the game regardless.

[Sanae]

I'm not going to outguess the mod about whether Ascetic makes sense or not because it's just flavor spec and we have had an amazing start and I'm not going to lose the game on flavor spec when imo there is a locked down mechwin right in front of us.

We simply need Norwee to clear one more person to get to auto-win.

We elim LLD today - I am very certain the game ends.

If not, Norwee "clears" Gamma.
Yukari doctors Norwee.

At 5 alive we have 2 elims for Me/Yukari.

You can kill me first and Yukari last - there is no way scum can win in this scenario as every uncleared person is eliminated.

This is a very simple win that doesn't require any bells and whistles - we don't have to guess whether LLD is Scum Ascetic etc.

[Sanae]

There is just no way Norwegian Boy is scum.

This game is basically over.

VOTE: LLD

[Sanae]

NorwegianBoy is town by dayplay and nightplay and has a MD result on him doing nothing on N1 that basically hard-clears him given what Kilgamayan flipped.

It also makes no sense for NorwegianBoy to "clear" RegRider if he's scum.

You are just grasping for straws at this point.

[Sanae]

I'm not going to outguess the mod about whether Ascetic makes sense or not because it's just flavor spec and we have had an amazing start and I'm not going to lose the game on flavor spec when imo there is a locked down mechwin right in front of us.

We simply need Norwee to clear one more person to get to auto-win.

We elim LLD today - I am very certain the game ends.

If not, Norwee "clears" Gamma.
Yukari doctors Norwee.

At 5 alive we have 2 elims for Me/Yukari.

You can kill me first and Yukari last - there is no way scum can win in this scenario as every uncleared person is eliminated.

This is a very simple win that doesn't require any bells and whistles - we don't have to guess whether LLD is Scum Ascetic etc.

Scum won't make a kill N5 ever.
That brings D6 with Gamma/You/Me uncleared.
Who dies first then?

if LLD flips town you can kill me first

I'll bet the game on Gamma town

[Sanae]

N1 was on Reg because I really wanted him to grant the wish and my protect being able to protect only one kill most likely meant no scum strongman.

[Sanae]

if I was scum I would've already conceded and not waste my time on this

[Sanae]

Not entirely, I’m still wondering why Sanae would bring up Ascentic though.

Norwee as claimed can clear 1 person per night.

We already have SM as confirmed innocent.

If NorwegianBoy lives through the night, he creates another innocent and it's impossible for the scum to win.

If Scum had shot NorwegianBoy, we would be probably trying to eliminate RegRider today and would not be basically at mech-win.

So why would the scum kill SirCakes instead of NorwegianBoy?

It only makes sense if the last scum remaining does not actually care about NorwegianBoy's "clearing" and is trying to use said clearing to get "conftowned" and then win the game off that.

An Ascetic scum fits into the night-play decisions the scumteam has made - hence I look at the game and who is trying to get "cleared" by NorwegianBoy.

And look it's LLD trying to get herself "blocked" and "conftowned" right as the day starts.

Hence why I believe LLD is some sort of scum ascetic.

Her mech play has not really made a lot of sense to me in general - it doesn't make sense for someone whose claimed sole utility is "immortality" and immunity to NKs to claim bulletproof since isn't your only utility to the town that you can soak up a nightkill and not die? It makes a lot more sense for her to be ascetic and actually be vulnerable to nightkills.

[Sanae]

Yukari claimed she would protect Gamma so NorwegianBoy was open to being NKed last night

[Sanae]

It doesn't make sense but that's what Yukari claimed she would do.

Also assuming Yukari!town; I think scum still takes a shot at Norwee because no-kill is better than killing SC and letting town have a clear.

Blocked kills look the same as no-kills and don't advance game state to mech-win and there's always a chance the kill does go through if Yukari protects else-where as claimed

[Sanae]

thanks!

I spent a long time picking it! : )

[Sanae]

WIM? What's WIM?

Sanae, has Aaron said anything?

Also looking through Kilga's iSO I noted they had been reading Sanae as scum for quite a bit of this? Take this as you will but considering he flipped red it kind of seems possible as intentional.

Aaron said he thinks the solve is between LLD / Norwee and possibly Gamma if both are town.

I told him Norwee is confirmed town.

He is cheering me on and wants me to kick Lady Niamh's butt : )

[Sanae]

I don't understand why people still think there's a 1-2% chance of Norwee being scum

[Sanae]

He has hammered scum on D1/D2

His use of his town crier ability is very trolly.

He's using his other ability to clear players from POE.

He basically has a semi-clear from our Hider given he did nothing and it makes 0 sense for him to do nothing while Kilga makes the kill.

Where are you getting the 1% from? Do you think he's secretly some kind of psychic god of mafia?

[Sanae]

meanwhile LLD has pushed for town deaths on D1 and D2.

Defended Kilga-scum hard d1 AND d2

Like sometimes the simple solution is just the right one.

There's no need to figure out a way to break into a building if the front door is open with a welcome mat laid out in front of it.

[Sanae]

Um no it's not just that he didn't perform the nightkill.

He didn't perform

any action

Why would scum decide to not use their Watcher and idle a player?

Because they psychically knew the MD-Hider was going to target them?

It's ludicrious

[Sanae]

I can see scum-Sanae literally going gung ho and take LLD out before conceding just for flex.

this is ridiculous.

why would I waste my time doing this.

you're literally saying that I have decided to spend 5x as much effort on a day that the game is literally unwinnable for scum!me as the other 2 days when I have a chance to win?

How does that even make sense?

[Sanae]

Um no it's not just that he didn't perform the nightkill.

He didn't perform

any action

Why would scum decide to not use their Watcher and idle a player?

Because they psychically knew the MD-Hider was going to target them?

It's ludicrious

That’s why it’s only 2%.
Scum could have a factional multitasking for all we know.
Like I’m treating this mechanically for the most part. And just paranoia of deepscum.
But like, it’s 2%. That means I’m calling him 98% town.

7) Nobody can multitask unless specified otherwise.

[Sanae]

I can see scum-Sanae literally going gung ho and take LLD out before conceding just for flex.

this is ridiculous.

why would I waste my time doing this.

you're literally saying that I have decided to spend 5x as much effort on a day that the game is literally unwinnable for scum!me as the other 2 days when I have a chance to win?

How does that even make sense?

Spite is a great motivator.

? What spite are you even talking about?

[Sanae]

But that's enough talk about others.
Let's talk about me.

Last day phase I spoke of wifoming between Gamma and Norwee. SirCakez died. If I was scum, why would I throw the game by not killing Norwee? Like it was pretty obvious that letting town-Norwee alive will trigger a chain or role interaction that can just mech-find the last scum and I think my posts today proves that I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to planning things. Why would I go after someone outside of my two-players-list when I could've just killed Norwee when I know he wouldn't delay me due to thread consensus leading to delaying Reg and claim that "well shit I was on Gamma?"

why would any scum not kill norwee unless they are ascetic and trying to use him to get cleared?

[Sanae]

if the last scum is not ascetic, they should have killed norwee last night. better to have a chance of winning then be locked into a mech loss regardless of how likely the doc protect is

[Sanae]

I still don't get why do you believe that LLD is town, and Gamma is possible as scum.

LLD scum would try harder than “if I’m scum you eat crow”
Also her mech solve plan was sound with a plan to have a chance to confirm her town and get lim if failed to do so.
Like y’all think she would try to go back on her word on that as scum, but if she try to do so will y’all let her? Hell no.

I’ll write the rest up later because I need to do something rq

her mech solve was basically "confirm me by using norwee on me" which makes a lot of sense if she is ascetic

[Sanae]

why would any scum not kill norwee unless they are ascetic and trying to use him to get cleared?

That's not about me though.

i dont think you r scum i think lld is scum

[Sanae]

Also my reads are heavily based on mechanics atm.

Big part of my LLD read is that it is a really inconvenient role for scum to not have a vote and has to wait a phase to vanillize herself just to vote. Mokou as an ascetic makes 0 sense and fakeclaiming immortality will only cause (normally) for town PRs to be on her to check her ridiculous claim out. Also I think if she was scum ascetic I think she would’ve claimed that D1 for neg utility towncred.
Scum having invincibility is weird even with SK (who could’ve been a survivor so not 100%) when scum already flipped a protective.

why would a town player who is immune to nightkills claim to be immune to nightkills?

doesnt it make more sense to try to draw scum nightkills to gain tempo?

[Sanae]

her mech solve was basically "confirm me by using norwee on me" which makes a lot of sense if she is ascetic

And I don't think she's ascetic.

i refuse to watch lld win another game as last scum because of your mech spec

[Sanae]

shes also very very very scummy

[Sanae]

lld is famous for winning 1v11s 1v9s etc

she once claimed masons with someone, janitored them and cruised to a win

if there is a mech angle she can use to conftown herself she will take it.

[Sanae]

shes also very very very scummy

I agree, but it's like. Almost too scummy to be scum. I feel like their weird outburst and consequent flaking from the game would be odd if they were mafia. Because why not at least try if they are supposedly that good?

she tries the perfect amount to get townread and survive.

she understands when to exert pressure and when to lie low.

[Sanae]

Honestly that LLD-ascetic theory came out of nowhere and that made me think you could be scum pulling everything you got to take LLD with you.
Massive paranoia also makes sense I guess.

why would i try 10x more on a day where my scumteam has already lost than the other days when we can have a chance to win?

like honestly I don't need this in my life.

[Sanae]

i dont see why anyone leaves norweegian boy alive to clear people and lock the game in mechwin

so the only explanation for me is that scum have something to gain from leaving him alive

such as being falsecleared off a block

hence ascetic scum

hence LLD jumping up and down asking to be blocked.

[Sanae]

a kill being blocked doesnt even advance the game state because we wont know if its cuz reg got delayed or a doc protect saved norwee

its fine for scum to get their kill blocked.

it is much much much worse for them to be locked into a mech loss

the risk/reward is completely out of whack.

[Sanae]

in all likelihood we just elim regrider for being blocked by norwee if we open with a no kill night which is not really harmful to scum side ev

the downside is very low

[Sanae]

Oh yeah, Sanae, please post a flavor explanation of your speak-with-dead role in your next post.

the flavor is that the thunder and noise disturbs the dead and I'll be able to channel them and speak to one dead player of my choice in a PT.

[Sanae]

You are lying about the name of your actual flavor lol.

I am Sanae Kochiya

My flavor role is Weather Conjurer.

The ability is called Lightning.

The Flavor says that the storm causes thunder to disturb the dead and I get to choose one person who is dead to join me in a PT

[Sanae]

I mean it's already proven Aaron is in a PT with me unless you think I'm some kind of rolecop?

[Sanae]

that made me laugh <3

[Sanae]

If Sanae flips town, big FOS on LLD tommorow.

fos doesn't mean anything if you are unwilling to kill her

she just wins.

[Sanae]

if you follow my plan and we vote out LLD, we will win the game.

If she somehow is town.

we go into night with 3 clears(Norwee/Reg/SM)

Norwee can't be killed because Yukari protects

SM can hide with Norwee perpetually since Norwe is acting every night.

Norwee targets Gamma.

If there is a nightkill.

We wake up with 5 alive -> Gamma is clear, you elim me/Yukari game is over.

If there isn't a nightkill, you have 2 elims and can still block.


I don't understand what you think my purpose is here

If I am scum I have no reason to spend effort trying to push LLD just to get elimmed the next day.

That's just like what?

[Sanae]

We have more than just one lim.

Right now you can't kill LLD even WITH my vote.

Do you think it will get easier to kill LLD after I'm dead?

Let's say she's ascetic scum.

You elim me today I flip town

She shoots Regrider who was willing to vote her tonight

You block her and it does nothing.

Now she's "conftowned", me/regrider, 2 people who voted her are dead.

Yukari is sitting there still going nah LLD is locktown.

Do you think at that point you will be able to vote her out ?

[Sanae]

I am a moron

I am a moron

I am a moron

Please just keep Norwee alive so we can mech win this

[Sanae]

as long as Norwee survives tonight we cannot lose this game.

[Sanae]

Reg is conftown but Norwee has actual utility that can beat Mafia.

Just keep him alive.

There is no chance Norwee is mafia bigbraining this please

[Sanae]

Yukari protects Norwee
Norwee blocks Gamma

If there is a NK, gamma is clear and just elim me -> yukari game is over.

there's no need to get fancy with some norwee paranoia.

[Sanae]

I'm so confused

[Sanae]

Gamma is cleared by Norwee.

Elim Me/Yukari -> Block Me/Yukari -> Elim the other one tommorrow game over?

[Sanae]

I don't understand how this game is still going on

[Sanae]

Can't Norwee just block the one of us that doesn't get elimmed today and elim her tommorrow?

[Sanae]

wait what?

[Sanae]

Mine is Lightning

[Sanae]

I don't really understand what Yukari is doing because this game should 100% be over so I think just elim -> block -> elim?

Norwee/Gamma are both 100% cleared no?

[Sanae]

wait why dont you just use your votes to leave the game

[Sanae]

then norwee/gamma can vote me out after you are flipped no?

[Sanae]

well norwee wouldnt even need to block me if you vote and leave the game no?

[Sanae]

you would leave and then norwee/gamma vote me out and its game over as long as they r both town

[Sanae]

i will ask the mod about the strongman thing now I guess

[Sanae]

ok so mod told me norwee wouldn't be able to block a strongman

[Sanae]

ugh

[Sanae]

either Yukari is telling the truth, Gamma is a strongman and killed through Norwee/Yukari

or

Yukari is scum and making up stuff.

:<

[Sanae]

norwee make a decision and ill sheep you im not thinking anymore this game

[Sanae]

i'm not throwing more than i already have :<

[Sanae]

If you actually think there's a strongman in the game then I'm 100% not it since I never tried to get NorwegiaBoi to "clear" me by blocking me.

[Sanae]

elim me block yukari elim yukari wins unless gamma is a strongman and is probably the easiest way to end it.

[Sanae]

norwee can you ask the mod if you would be notified that your block failed if it targetted a strongman?

[Sanae]

i think honestly at this point im ok losing to gamma strongman rather than to Yukari-scum because the number of lies and half-truths is just dizzying and insane >.>

[Sanae]

lol Norwee you are adoorbs <3

[Sanae]

I mean this game is just over now that Norwee has hard cleared Gamma right?

[Sanae]

I mean you said Norwee is 100% cleared so that can't actually happen right?

[Sanae]

I kind of just want this to end because the suspense is killing me.

[Sanae]

VOTE: yukari

let's just end it

i dont think it makes sense to go paranoid over a strongman that probably doesn't exist.

[Sanae]

I don't get it

if scum no kill don't we just end up back here again?

except now with the possibility of a delayed kill hanging over our heads?

[Sanae]

right now we can elim both me and yukari?

thats like certain victory no?

[Sanae]

If my character makes more sense as strongman im fine being elimmed first. I just want out atp >.>

[Sanae]

i asked unwnd to pick a cute girl for me

i dont know anything about touhou

[Sanae]

How are miracles and lightning connected?

i dunno it says i conjure weather in my role pm

[Sanae]

it says i like pray and the weather changes?

[Sanae]

my ability has already been used and mod confirmed in thread to be lightning

nobody knows what your abilities are, just that you change your story all the time

I don't think there is a strongman, its probably something you made up to paranoia us out of the auto-win

[Sanae]

wtf

[Sanae]

u didnt ask the mod if ur ability stops the nightkill?

[Sanae]

yay gg i was town <3

[Sanae]

i mean the game should be over either way ?

i dont see how it continues

[Sanae]

if we actually go into twilight im going to lose 10 years off my life

[Sanae]

norwee you wouldnt troll me would you

[Sanae]

no norwee is a good person and would never do that to you stop being stupid

[Sanae]

im talking to myself after the game is already over. i must be going crazy

[Sanae]

so this is like over no?

[Sanae]

wtf

[Sanae]

is this some troll nonsense

[Sanae]

norwee r u mafia or something

[Sanae]

wtf

[Sanae]

you said gamma cant be strongman and i know im not scum so um wtf?

[Sanae]

well this is over either way

either norwee is mafia or gamma is strongman

gg whoever it is

[Sanae]

unless yukari is scum who can get out of being voted but i refuse to believe thats possible cuz wtf

[Sanae]

ok i guess we lost whatwver

[Sanae]

i just want to know who it was

[Sanae]

norwee u said gamma couldnt be strongman

[Sanae]

wttf wtf wtf did u troll us norwee

[Sanae]

so gamma cant be strongman?

did u ask mod what would happen if you tried to block a strongman or not????

[Sanae]

wtf norwee

[Sanae]

norwee you need to tell me whether mod told you what would happen if you tried to delay a strongman

[Sanae]

no this is really important

you need to tell me if you cleared gamma or not i dont give a fuck what you do with your action