2235: Gensokyo ~ END ~

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh Reimu makes more sense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kilgamayan [3]: Gamma Emerald, SirCakez, Sanae
SirCakez [3]: Kilgamayan, Lukewarm, Yukari Yakumo

Not Voting: (3) Lady Lambdadelta*, RegRider, NorweegianboyEE

Ohh. Spicy wagons.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pick one dude

I feel like i should actually do some minor amounts of analyzis before i just pick one tho. :v

[NorwegianboyEE]

I might actually get some time for that once i've eaten dinner. We'll see.

[NorwegianboyEE]

if it turns out that the solution isn't as simple of "two of Cakez/Sanae/Norpiece".

Why am i being sussed at all?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s impossible for me to get engaged right now cus there’s so little posting.
So if anyone is wondering why i’m low energy it’s that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes, it's an excuse.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What i'm really saying though, is that i'm the type of player that responds to what other people say, so when nobody says anything i stop caring.
I can make content myself, but that precludes the following conditions are met:
A: I'm not extremely tired from working full day job.
B: I have some more free time than just a couple hours.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Unfortunately you don't help me much as i already townread your predecessor, and if you just make one post talking about my posts then it gives me nothing to work with as i already know i am town and believe you are town as well. So it gives me no more reason to care.
Doesn't help that there is no good reason for me to make that post as scum as i could just shut completely up and make no excuses whatsoever, bringing no attention to myself at all. Something i am aware would be the smart thing to do as scum in an dead gamestate assuming both these wagons are TvT.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee can you revote kilga

I do probably think Cakez is more likely town than Kilga yeah.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee can you revote kilga

I do probably think Cakez is more likely town than Kilga yeah.

okay so vote Kilga?

Are you that sure they are scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

if it turns out that the solution isn't as simple of "two of Cakez/Sanae/Norpiece".

Why am i being sussed at all?

Largely PoE, honestly. I'd bet the game on Gamma and RegRider being town, and I've felt good about LLD and Yukari being town for quite some time. That leaves Cakez, Sanae, and you, as well as The Luke Matter (haha see what I did there????), but I've felt a bit better about that slot as the day has gone on. Cakez and Sanae I've already gone over; with you, I haven't felt like your play has been as clearly town as LLD or Yukari, and your Sanae stuff at the beginning of the day just didn't really go anywhere in a way that made me wonder if you even really meant it.

I like this post from Kilga though.
Hmmm… decisions decisions…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just for clarity. I did not post a wish.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What a weird thing to lie about if it was.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee what is your PoE rn?

I still want this soon

Idk, i'm not really feeling a strong read.
I do think these slots are town -> Lukewarm, SirCakes, Gamma Emerald, Regrider, LLD, Kilgamayan

Soooo... Sanae/Yukari Yakumo i guess would be my preferred votes atm.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Sanae

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not sure about it per se but she's like number two in my suspects after kilga

If she's number two why don't you stay on Kilga?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didn't you*

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can y’all vote

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yukari hammer Kilga like you promised

If not i'll do it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok.
VOTE: Kilgamayan

[NorwegianboyEE]

Should i target anyone?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If this flips scum i’ll do Yukari i think. If it’s town then idk, maybe just holster again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Real class act to have the day last during 3 to 5 AM for my timezone.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ugh
Norwee, target RegRider tonight

As i promised. I’m targeting Yukari because Kilga flipped scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not sure why the rush to kill Regrider.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didn’t they claim 1-shot

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wow I really misread that one huh.

I'm a doctor btw. I can only protect from a single kill though.

Oh, nvm.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still think they are scum. So i’m holstering tonight so that there won’t be anything like: "Did Yukari protect or was Regrider blocked??" Confusing nonsense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still think they are scum. So i’m holstering tonight so that there won’t be anything like: "Did Yukari protect or was Regrider blocked??" Confusing nonsense.

Don't understand why I would be blocked but okay. Also don't understand why there was a wagon on me when there are better Elim targets, but whatever.

Because if you are mafia then your nightkill would not take effect on that night if i were to target you. Thus being: "blocked". Although not really "blocked" as it would still take effect on the following night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Understand that mafia might NK.

No kill? Yes. And that is precisely why i am going to target nobody.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is it better if i just target random or between a PoE of players so that my picked target won't be too predictable.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Please help me, i suck at making the correct mechanical plays.

[NorwegianboyEE]

does this role's ability work on NKs?

I don't see why not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Targeting will cause their action to be delayed as if they didn't act that night.
(Paraphrased)

[NorwegianboyEE]

I get the feeling we can easily win this game now. Plus I have some information from I believe N3 that I couldn't say yesterday for what I'll say now. Norweegian did not use any abilities during that night, specifically because I just realized what my role CAN do. I am Eternity Larva, a hider with the added ability that if my target doesn't make an action I cannot use my ability which I couldn't use N4.

I don't see why Norweegian as scum would just decide to not use an ability, but yeah looking back I now think if Norweegian claims who he targetted tonight we get around what I consider three confirms today.

You claim i didn’t use anything on night 3?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I cannot use my ability which I couldn't use N4.

There hasn’t been night 4.
I’m confused now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wait. What day is it? Thread title says D4.
LOL

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh right. Gamma’s meme day of 8 hours while i slept counts as an day. My bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so yes. I didn’t choose an action on night 3. neither did i night 2 or night 1. So Strangematters claim checks out.
On night 4 however i target Regrider and it said my action was succesfull. So he should be confirmed town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mind you, my preferred target was Yukari. But Gamma kept threatening he would steal my toast if i dared to target the doctor claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Then Strangematter either meant night 2 or he’s lying because i defo targeted Reg the previous night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m thinking he just meant night 2.
i don’t know what exactly the previous night was, but i did target Regrider there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*They

[NorwegianboyEE]

I target Regrider this previous night yes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Thanks Strange, now you make us both look bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ANYWAY,
Me target Reg last night, did nothing previous nights. Reg confirmed town today.
That’s all. *Breathes out*

[NorwegianboyEE]

StrangeMatter, Sanae, NorweegianboyEE, Yukari Yakumo, Lady Lambdadelta*, Gamma Emerald, RegRider

Ok let’s see.
Scratch regrider off the list. I’m pretty sure Gamma is good.
That leaves… Strange, Sanae, Yukari, LLD.
Yukari and LLD are kinda sus by play but their claims make them seem townie. I honestly wouldn’t hate voting one of them anyway tbh.
I don’t remember why, but i do feel like Strange is sorta townie. So that makes Sanae seem like the best bet. But i don’t wanna vote yet. This was very rudimentary solving and i feel like i should ISO the flipped scum to see if i get any smarter.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t remember why, but i do feel like Strange is sorta townie.

Maybe it's because SM is cop-cleared.

Ah that explains it. I literally forgot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So is it Sanae? That seems like the most obvious choice.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Last scum could have some crazy ability we don't know about.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like if LLD is town and we reach F3 (with 2 votes available) scum can just force no elim.
If LLD is scum no remaining town will try to force no elim.

Don't worry about Final 3. If I'm there, it won't be an issue. I can choose to give up my immortality and effectively vanilize myself for a vote.

So as long as my vote reads with a star each day, there's no reason to kill me. If you clear me as confirmed town, I'll keep myself unkillable until my vote is needed.

You can do that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

my gut says it's LLD here and I kinda wanna have a perfect game if I can

Their claim that they actually can vote kinda shattered my belief in their role not being possible for scum to have.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Kop became an serial killer then having one scum be immortal (with the caveat that they can't vote until forfeiting the ability) would be quite helpful wouldn't it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

my gut says it's LLD here and I kinda wanna have a perfect game if I can

Their claim that they actually can vote kinda shattered my belief in their role not being possible for scum to have.

I don't agree. I can't substantiate why yet, but I will fight tooth and nail to allow this day phase to run as long as possible until I can explain it properly.

You can't explain it now?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like LLD feels sooo scummy by dayplay, the mech is literally the only reason i haven't been pushing for their death all game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think i'm at Sanae/LLD for my preferred votes today.

Would like for Sanae to show up and share their thoughts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

on second thought there's a logical explanation for my concern
I still think we should wait to vote anyone out until I get a chance to actually figure that out though

What?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don't wait until 8 hours before deadline

[NorwegianboyEE]

So let's kill Sanae and test me and then you can kill Gamma and then kill me.

Why would kill Gamma?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't like it when slots are confident in an mech win.
Makes me wonder if it's some kind of trick.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is it mech win even if we eliminate you first?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What if we switched you and Sanae's slots in your plan.
Still works right? I'd just target Sanae instead of us limming them now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We're not playing normal mafia anymore. We're playing a logic puzzle.

Well you can count me out of the solving then.

- Clownpiece (An stupid fairy)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dkkoba has said that town who focuses on mech instead of dayplay usually lose.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm having trouble grokking Niamh's mechsolve as a scum Ludwig Gambit, and some things about Niamh's posting rn ping town. Meanwhile Sanae is MIA at a critical moment, which feels maybe like trying to wait out the storm.

Why wouldn't they just be offline for unrelated reasons?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway i'm not voting until Sanae shows back up and Gamma does his thing, but i'm gonna keep questioning LLD's plan because i really don't wanna lose this to some epic gambit from LLD and feel dumb for weeks afterwards.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok let's try this way then.

I'm going to lay out a statement one by one.
Tell me if you agree or disagree. If you disagree, tell me why.

Ready?

"StrangeMatter and RegRider are both confirmed town."

Who's this for?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can’t you just explain it instead of being patronizing

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm thinking LLD is maybe Ascetic Scum and trying to set up a endgame she can win because she went very quickly from "just kill me my reads are bad" to "lets use norwegianboy as a role delayer" and mechwin this game please delay me.

Oh i didn’t consider ascetic.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what's the plan?

Can’t you just explain it instead of being patronizing

Answer my question.
I'm doing this precisely to explain it.

Ok, but i will be complaining if it feels like you’re insulting my intelligence. :/

Answer is: "yes"

[NorwegianboyEE]

Big balls energy if Sanae scum and pretended like they didn’t know that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because you’d be concerned about who i target?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Woah woah woah, this is getting way too complicated.
Do we need to use MATH?!

[NorwegianboyEE]

So the answer is yes?

[NorwegianboyEE]

But i’m too dumb. And now i’m getting nervous because of the added time pressure.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Umm…

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m too tired but i don’t really get it anyway. Night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I honestly like Sanae’s plan better.
Because i don’t trust LLD and it’s not like Sanae would be able to endgame even if they survive for one day longer. So i don’t see the scummy motivation in their arguments.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also trying to insinuate that changing the order is because i’m scum is kinda laughable. I don’t even understand the plan in fullest. I just think LLD hasn’t been playing townie enough to dictate the actions that town should take.

[NorwegianboyEE]

See these moments used to be inexplicable but within the past couple weeks I’ve come to regard them as an outward sign of my dissociation (for more info, see my GTKAS probably, I’m working on a super in-depth dive into my mental health across my life as a whole but it will probably be some time before I get it in a state where I’m ready to post it)

Ok, now i just think you’re crazy. And not actually coming up with an epic solve…

[NorwegianboyEE]

I didn’t mean it in an degrading way…

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m actually interested in hearing what conclusion Gamma comes up with.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This has like nothing to do with the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think they’d see it as insulting. But if he thought it was i’ll apologize. And since you reported it, it’s already been moved on to an administrative level so i feel like talking more about it just detracts from the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sorry i’m in class and i spent like 10 minutes on and off trying to type that reply.

[NorwegianboyEE]

LLD, if your role is ascetic as Sanae is pitching. Would it still be impossible for scum!you to endgame following the plan?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gamma what is your thoughts on limming in Sanae or in LLD first?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can we stop talking about this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So does anyone think i'm scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wasn’t Gamma gonna post a thing. I’m not voting until that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also of note, Kilgamayan voted LLD in the beginning in a way that seemed a bit performative before settling on hardpushing for Sanae.
Seems like weird behaviour to have if Sanae was their scum partner.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I like how I instinctly knew that it was Maria posting even without knowing who the hydra members are.

I've checked Yukari's ISO and it doesn't seem like they are alligned with the scum slots. This post especially made me think it's something scum!Yukari wouldn't post because it's kinda awkward to act like you "know" who one of the hydra members in a scum hydra is if you were informed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lukewarm StrangeMatter
Cobra Kai Sanae
NorweegianboyEE
Yukari Yakumo
Lady Lambdadelta
Gamma Emerald
RegRider

Clear Regrider, Gamma, Yukari, Sanae, Strangematter.

Yep, it's just LLD.

No mech solve needed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also it makes sense it was easier to wagon scum if one of the mafia slots does not have a vote. That swings the game more in favor of town because one mafia can only use their voice. And unfortunately not to the level they wanted, as LLD tried to kill me on day 1 but failed to convince anyone. They've also defended both flipped scum so far.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know but she's literally just sitting there and let Kilga die basically

Few reasons.

1) Not a hard townread compared to rest of my townreads
2) I think if he flips it will give a lot of info regardless my read on him
3) Lazy and tired irl but this is not really a game factor

I think Kilga town flip just solidifies Cakez/Sanae for me.

Wow I really misread that one huh.

I'm a doctor btw. I can only protect from a single kill though.

These posts all are indicative of non-alligned with scum!Kilga.

[NorwegianboyEE]

1: Yukari just saying "sure kill them, i'm not gonna help or do anything". Literally the exact opposite of how i'd expect scum to act if their buddy is being wagoned.
2: Assuming town!Kilga pre-flip. (Sure, this one could be easy to fake. But it's just so unassuming and that makes me think it's genuine)
3: Just accepting that they were wrong and immediately claiming instead of making a big deal about it. I like their tone there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If LLD is town then i guess i'll need to bite the bullet and reconsider my townreads. But it really just feels like that ends the game here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didn't expect to end up with these reads, but hey. That's what re-reading does for you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Real nice attitude.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was going to ask if you had any reads outside of your solve just in case you were interested in sharing that, but i guess you can just sit there and complain too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But what i want to know is why you want to vote Sanae and if you have an read on them that makes you believe they are scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your independent read on Sanae.

What makes the priority #1?

[NorwegianboyEE]

So can i just vote or…?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will note that Norwee hesitated to vote as Scum in Newnie 2077.

Dude. I’ve literally said i’m waiting for Gamma.

[NorwegianboyEE]

(expired on 2021-10-03 00:25:25)

So we voting? I'm just waiting for you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't think anyone will be surprised about where i am voting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sanae clearly has a lot more WIM here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i like their avatar.

[NorwegianboyEE]

WIM? What's WIM?

Wants it more.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't have an brain. But whatever i do have, it's telling me to vote LLD.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Another day, another paranoia scumread on me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess LLD not even attempting to convince the key slots that they shouldn't be eliminated is somehow town indicative? But it could also just be the sign of defeated scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I actually think i find Sanae even more trustworthy than Yukari right now.
Because nothing's really cleared Yukari i think? Their doctor claim alone isn't really doing it for me. But i think Sanae's posts lately have shown some real thought process and attempts to solve, as opposed to the mech nonsense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kilgamayan's vote onto Sanae was just oozing bloodlust and i don't think it was bussing, because there was no real reason for scum to buss in that gamestate.
I'm not really seeing Sanae as scum anymore so my PoE is LLD -> Yukari

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kilgamayan [3]: Gamma Emerald, SirCakez, Sanae
SirCakez [3]: Kilgamayan, Lukewarm, Yukari Yakumo

Not Voting: (3) Lady Lambdadelta*, RegRider, NorweegianboyEE

Ohh. Spicy wagons.

Actually, LLD's angry shit response feels somewhat genuine. And i'm not sure if they'd react the way that they have as scum.

Is it just Yukari?

[NorwegianboyEE]

During the gamestate that we now know was based of competing scum/town wagons, Sanae put their vote onto Kilgamayan instead of SirCakez. While Yukari voted for town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Heck, i think Sanae/LLD could be TvT.

I wanna try this.
VOTE: Yukari

[NorwegianboyEE]

So why do I have gamma in my scum pool?
He looked like he was demotivated when the town auto-win talk was happening. Town should be thrilled to talk about auto win possibility.

What do you mean?

[NorwegianboyEE]

her mech solve was basically "confirm me by using norwee on me" which makes a lot of sense if she is ascetic

And I don't think she's ascetic.

i refuse to watch lld win another game as last scum because of your mech spec

There's history to this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

shes also very very very scummy

I agree, but it's like. Almost too scummy to be scum. I feel like their weird outburst and consequent flaking from the game would be odd if they were mafia. Because why not at least try if they are supposedly that good?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why you just calling it paranoia Yukari. They aren't really cleared from being scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually put LLD back in there.

My PoE is just LLD/Yukari now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They left me alive cus my reads so bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually put LLD back in there.

My PoE is just LLD/Yukari now.

See stuff like this is why my paranoia on you is never quenching.
You keep finding ways to increase the pool while everyone else try to decrease it.

If i was scum here i would probably just keep lolpushing LLD. No reason to change my stance at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't do anything extra as scum. Too lazy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually put LLD back in there.

My PoE is just LLD/Yukari now.

See stuff like this is why my paranoia on you is never quenching.
You keep finding ways to increase the pool while everyone else try to decrease it.

If i was scum here i would probably just keep lolpushing LLD. No reason to change my stance at all.

That is not the vibe I got in Open 767 though.

Wow i didn't think anyone would bring up my first scum game on this site from 2 years ago as an example.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But what i'm saying is, why not take the path of least resistance if scum!me here.
Me efforting as scum isn't really the point as i don't think i've been put under a lot of pressure in this day due to various reasons such as Reg literally confirming that i did nothing a night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i think i know which slot you are, but not gonna spoil in case it's a secret.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I recognize that relaxed melancholy mood as only fitting one of the slots in that game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, then i'll just say it's Sujimichi.

VOTE: LLD

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wanna block Yukari tonight if LLD isn’t scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think it’s a bit ironic that they claimed i was trying to keep my options open but they was saying Gamma felt deflated today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee can you unvote pls

K
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

Feels a bit lamist how you acting like being voted doesn’t bother you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Could still be Yukari but that attitude is still just kinda scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So if you're saying you'd kill Sanae over me, let's talk. But if you won't, I'm not interested in wasting my time, lol.

I think Sanae has made good arguments and their tone feels really town this dayphase.
Would i kill you over Sanae right now? Yes.
But how do you expect to change anyones mind if you only want to talk to me if i already want to kill Sanae?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well now the consensus is starting to look a lot less clear.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I haven’t really expressed it out loud but I’ve been so fucking tilted the last few days because y’all are literally throwing away town auto win.

It’s an auto-win from your respectivr if town, but the question is shether i can believe that you are.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I haven’t really expressed it out loud but I’ve been so fucking tilted the last few days because y’all are literally throwing away town auto win.

It’s an auto-win from your perspective if town, but the question is whether i can believe that you are.

P-edit

[NorwegianboyEE]

So what is your lim priority?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well then we are at an impaase here.
Because i’m not really convinced that Sanae or Gamma is an good elimination.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can you elaborate a bit more on your Gamma scumread? I was hoping there would be a bit more meat to it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I s2g if you IDIOTS vote me out here after I have gone to great pains to try and help solve this game you deserve to lose, not like that’ll happen anyway but still. I pushed out BOTH the flipped scum, and tried to mobilize as hard as I fucking could in the 8-hour D3. Anyone still SRing me outside of no other options is out of their mind.

Agreed, i don’t think Gamma flips scum here.
Can we just follow the plan and kill Sanae instead.

Mind you, i don’t scumread their play. But i don’t really care for this idea of limming Gamma.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Sanae flips town, big FOS on LLD tommorow.
VOTE: Sanae

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let’s compromise.
I agree to voting Sanae and following the outline of LLD’s plan, on the condition that we don’t vote out Gamma today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We have more than just one lim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m also fine with LLD if people put their votes back there, but not Gamma. That’s just stupid.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok fine.
VOTE: LLD

Can people VOTE


(My impatience is acting up)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk why but this day is so boring.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m losing focus.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think it’s the fact that there’s been so much focus on mech rather than dayplay.
It’s killing me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If LLD isn’t affected by my ability then it makes total sense why i’ve been kept alive up to this point though right?
And if you (Yukari) really is an doctor then why the hell didn’t they shoot you last night? If scum actually saw me as a threat they would probably kill Yukari to ensure that they wouldn’t be able to protect me tommorow.
So LLD does make sense as scum here now that i think about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

When did you claim Yukari?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I claimed last night that I’m gonna rand between Gamma and Norwee.

Then what was this about?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like the feeling you get when you can't sleep until like 1 AM every night trying to think of the ways to convince this bunch of clowns and think of the alternative when things go wrong (and it did go wrong) when you have to get up at 3 AM to go to work.
I really meant it when I said lim me over LLD because that would've at least made my life less miserable.

That’s what you get for playing with Clownpiece and expecting them to listen to some complex mech plan.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Here’s the scum!Yukari route to victory atp
Kill Norwee tonight, with the EXCUSE of protecting conftown Reg as why she didn’t target there.
Lim whichever of me/Sanae Norwee doesn’t target
Kill SM’s target the next night, and wins because only one townie remains alive.
I’m burning this bridge out from under you. You WILL lose.

Why’d you suddenly get so confident with scum!Yukari.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, 100% mech wins suck balls anyway.
There’s like no tension.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ll just target Gamma tonight.
If i die kill Yukari.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still don’t think Norwegian is scum, since I specifically know that Norwegian has at least not taken one action, which I really can’t see how scum Norwee just decides to not use their ability with no multitasking and Kilga just NKs.

Hmm you're right actually. There is 0 chance Kilga made a nightkill N1.

Looking back I just realized that D1 Norwee used their ability during the day which is to get the host to say anything they wanted the host to say, so Norwee didn't have any other actions.

?
I can use either an day or night ability. And they don’t have anything to do with each other.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hmm.
Mod told me that if my action was delayed I would have known that my action has failed.
So Norwee did not target me.

Didn’t say i would.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So i’m guessing scum target reg for the kill and Strange hid behind them and died?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gamma was delayed, so barring any shenanigans it’s either Yukari or Sanae?

[NorwegianboyEE]

One of my abilities is called USA USA USA and has to do with free speech, which is how i am able to make the moderator post what i want them too. And the second is called stare into the fire. And has to do with lunacy and the target staring into it going insane and becoming delayed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

12 hours later..

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee can you ask the mod if you would be notified that your block failed if it targetted a strongman?

Ok

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the smart play here is to lim either of Sanae/Yukari and delay the other. And if a kill happens anyway then i say GG for scum having an OP role.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Gamma is both a strongman, played town, and led an elim on their scum partner. Then i don’t think i’d feel terribly bad about losing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also mod told me they would notify me if my action was unsuccesfull. So unless we go big brain paranoia territory and say they might havr multi-tasked commuter+factional night kill. I’ll say Gamma is cleared.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is everyone remainings flavour claims again? I wanna see if i can solve from my Touhou knowledge.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i wanna lim Yukari and if that flips town, delay Sanae.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t see why Keine Kamashirasawa makes sense for an strongman.
She certainly has an second form, but it is stated that she creates history instead of consuming it when in that form. And that hasn’t a whole lot to do with strongman.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i find it really disappointing that Yukari didn’t actually have an doctor protect but they played it up as if they had this whole time. And that is literally the only reason they didn’t get elimmed earlier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i just realized i asked two slots that are literally whose avis are based on and usernames are called Yukari Yakumo and Sanae to flavour claim.

I’m really tired ok…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why you all so agreeable, it’s creeping me out.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ll refrain from voting immediately. But as things stand now i’m probably voting Yukari.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think either of them makes sense as an strongman.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yukari is the manipulator of gaps and their role beeing commuter would make sense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Having a train teleport behind you and run you over is an trademark Yikari move.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like sure, Yukari is the oldest and quote: "strongest Youkai in Gensokyo" but their ability and known skills aren’t based on raw strenght or something like that, so y’know. I didn’t make the character chards. But having Yukari be a "strongman" sounds pretty unfitting. I would probably use Yuugi for that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Having Yukari be the sinister and plotting villain behind the scenes makes sense flavourwise though, so it’s perfectly fine to throw an healthy share of paranoia there. And i don’t feel guilty about it because it’s literally the role they picked so they knew it would happen.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If my character makes more sense as strongman im fine being elimmed first. I just want out atp >.>

Do you even know Touhou? o_o

[NorwegianboyEE]

WHY would Sanae make sense as an strongman? It boggles the mind, it literally DOESN’T make sense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re making me nerd out with your outrageous statements.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah that fits.
Touhou 12.3 is Sanae just manipulating the wind all day long.

[NorwegianboyEE]

All i know is that i target Gamma and a kill happened. So elimming in Yukari and if that doesn't end the game; delaying Sanae, is the only thing left to do.

If there's anything else that needs to be said then go ahead and say it, but i'm ready to just end the day.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kay.
Just confirming that i'm not scum cus if i was i'd probably just quickhammer right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anything else to say Yukari?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, this should still THEORETICALLY be auto-win assuming my role actually does stop an mafia nightkill, but if it doesn't and it's Sanae or Gamma then we're screwed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It should but i don't know if mafia actually has an ability that can subvert it. That's what i'm getting at.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway that felt like an town indicative response from both of you.
VOTE: Yukari Yakumo

[NorwegianboyEE]

It should but i don't know if mafia actually has an ability that can subvert it. That's what i'm getting at.

what besides a strongman would be able to do that?

Idk, i'm not some mech genius.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Please Unwnd. Give us the flip.
I can't take this tension. I feel like i'm going to puke.

[NorwegianboyEE]

THE FLIP

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would you end the game if this was an scumflip mod

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is this is an maximum troll waiting period for the "twilight" to end before flipping scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Gamma is strongman then the game should technically be over because there's no way the kill can be blocked. If i am mafia then the game should also technically be over because there is no way anyone can block my kill.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Gamma is strongman then the game should technically be over because there's no way the kill can be blocked. If i am mafia then the game should also technically be over because there is no way anyone can block my kill.

If Gamma strongman killed you would've gotten a notice that your action failed, right?

Mod said they would notify me if my action was not succesfull. And my action on Gamma was succesfull last night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm just gonna target Sanae then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

wtf norwee

Wtf what? Do you expect me to target Gamma... again?