131 Boca Del Infierno! Brain Meats EXPLODEded!

[ZONEACE]

Only two listen out for the cries and fight against the darkness.

so i think this means both buffy and faith are in the game, no real suspicions or predictons yet, so ill just FOS YOU ALL.

[ZONEACE]

Alright, with what meager workings we have so far, I'm looking at ZONEACE and DoomCow to be the most likely ot be scum. I'll semi-randomly pick

Vote: ZONEACE

(semi-random because DoomCow has an awesome signature)

Cam

may I ask why you think DC and I are most likely to be scum?

[ZONEACE]

ZONEACE has only one post to go off of, but in that one post he posts only a tangentially useful one-liner about roles that might be in this game. This somewhat looks to me like maybe one of those roles was given to him as a safe role claim and he wanted to start ingraining in people's minds early on that these roles were here.

IF you look at the first post (i think its the first post, the one with lots of italicized flavor text), it says there are 2 people who go about at night fighting (not a direct quote) and that theirs is a thankless job, Thats a description of a slayer in my eyes, and Since in the Jossverse, there are 2 living slayers i assumed it was those 2, which are buffy and faith.

[ZONEACE]

I'm not sure what your point is here, ZONEACE. I wasn't arguing with your conclusion.

Cam

you said i was probably told that so that i would have a safe false claim, so while not dirrectly arguing my conclusion, you are ignoring information that caused me to come to that conclusion.

[ZONEACE]

With Zoneace V. Mathcam: just watching it as it develops no comment as of yet.

whats this Zoneace V. Mathcam crap? i wasn't aware we were at odds. Just because someone has voted for soemoen else doesn't mean the 2 are versusing. I personally don't have any real suspicions at Mathcam right now, beyond my general suspicion of everyone in the game.

[ZONEACE]

However, my role hints that this game doens't take place that far along, at least not in the last season.

really? cause mine does.

[ZONEACE]

7 town, 5 mafia
7 town, 1 SK, 4 mafia
7 town, 1 SK, 2 mafia, 2 mafia
8 town, 1 SK 3 mafia
8 town, 4 mafia
8 town, 2 mafia, 2 mafia



This leaves us with 2 and 5. Can anyone remember if that line was up before w_w edited it?

1 is a definite no, 2 seems lik e ano, because, like 1, the mafia could win on day 2. 3 is possible, just because it doesn't match the night scene, we could have had a bloc, a doc, or a missed choice. 4 seems like a major possibility. 5 doesn't feel right, and 6 seems like another major possibility.

[ZONEACE]

It was there, i saw it i copy pasted it. so we need to stop arguing wether it existed or not. it said "They need to take seve, and they might take yours" which is an obvious reference to the Gentlemen from the season 4 episode "Hush" in which characters from a (i think it was german) fairytale in which scary looking floating guys need 7 hearts to do something (i dont remember what) and in order to obtain the hearts, they stole the voices of everyone in sunnydale, the only way to defeat them was the scream of the princess, which was buffy.

[ZONEACE]

just so there is no confusion, we now know for sure that buffy is in the game, because the answer to the question was buffy.

[ZONEACE]

Buffy was the first person to speak after the towns voices were released. Riley broke the box containing the voices, but the silence was broken by buffy when she screamed, causing the heads of the Gentlemen to explode.

[ZONEACE]

are you trying to re-ensoul Angel vraak?

[ZONEACE]

I must ask PBuG again:

What did you mean when you said the note came from "someone ELSE"? Someone else other than whom exactly?.

Himself. way to overanalyze.

[ZONEACE]

'Doobie doobie dooooooo'


ya, I can spam my own game. I'm bored and only just woke up.
Class isn't till 930....so I'll take a shower at...815 out by 830, then dress get my books and dash by 915!

'doobie doobie doooo'

it takes you 45 minutes to dress?

[ZONEACE]

vote silgado

cause hes trying entirely to hard to make something of someone else.

[ZONEACE]

ehh, im gonna have to put this all to an end and kill DC

unvote sig; vote DoomCow

it seems to be the concensus that he is infact bad enough to kill, so why let it go on any longer.

[ZONEACE]

He isn't a He at all, but more like a girl. The one who wasn't so powerful but after all was released became as powerful as the rest.
But power is to be used wisely right? This one seems to be a bit off kilter

so, um do we think this is about one of players in the game? Im trying to think of Buffyverse characters that fit that description. Its hard to say. There are 3 things i can think of. One is Willow. She was powerful, but not always, and at one point didnt use her power for good. Another is A potential slayer, who got the slayer power when Willow did something mojoey with the Scythe, and finally, THe First, who in most instances took the form of a female, no, while not a he, is more like a girl, but not really.




OMG i JSUT THOUGHT of another possibility, and thats Glory. Who in human form was Ben, but would also be Glory, the female Goddess that was bannished from her hell dimension.

[ZONEACE]

Cam:

'
ooOOoOoO
Xanders back.

Oh, I prefer to make snide comments and

then

read the opening post. You gotta problem with that?



Cam

thats all well and good, but how bout game relevant posts?

[ZONEACE]

ok, so my guess is xander has a osting restriction that requires only lyrics fromt he musical episode "Once More With Feeling", cause well, his last 2 posts have been from that episode.

post 206 is from his duet with Anya in thier appartment and post 209 is from the first group number which took place in the Magic Box after they realized they had each experienced singing the night before.

[ZONEACE]

Vote Count from the Invisi-Mod

Mathcam (Olio)
Olio (Fuldu)

It takes 6 baby...6 of youuuuuu

can we get a difinitive statement on FD please. is he dead or alive, or undead? cause you saying hes back, but him still being in the abyss are a little confusing.

[ZONEACE]

ok so he is dead or alive, or undead. wow thatys helpful.


i guess ill try these one at a time. Is FD Alive in this game?

[ZONEACE]

Terakanala.. Terakasha.. Hrmm..

It seems to me that the revelation you describe, PBuG, is one of the potential activities that took place last night.

I know exactly what happened. It can only happen when two are together, one to control, the other to call.

ok, could you maybe try saying that again, except this time, a little less cryptic like.

[ZONEACE]

umm mathcam, just out of furiosity, why do you find me the scummiest?

[ZONEACE]

hmm, well thats reasonable and really nothing i can to dispute it, at this time. should i survive the night, ill make an attempt tomorrow to sway you, but at this time its not necessary or in my best interest.


also

unvote whoever the hell im voting

and


vote vraak x

i can get behind this, and see where it leads, information wise.

[ZONEACE]

ok, he can vote, thats good.


now what?

[ZONEACE]

I'm still voting vraak? hmm i thought i already took care of that. oh well

unvote vraak

i say we no lynch today cause we really got nothing to go on.

[ZONEACE]

but in the show, it was giles who injected buffy with the relaxant, and i thought we had come to the conclusion that vraak was giles.

[ZONEACE]

its bold to claim bluffy, so im leanign toward beleiving it, but none of it makes sense.

[ZONEACE]

vote pbug

he is definately the best candidate

[ZONEACE]

Seeing Red sucks, i hate that episode forever. Damn you Joss for taking tara away from us. Anyway. Damn for losing willow.

[ZONEACE]

can we please kill pbug now

vote pbug

[ZONEACE]

no votes?



also, no matter how hot the kiss was it doesn't make up for the horrible death of tara and the subsequent evilness of willow.

[ZONEACE]

We should take our time with this, but I

am

disappointed we didn't kill PBuG yesterday. We essentially wasted a day due to people lurking. He's

not

pro-town, is quite possibly anti-town, and even if he

is

neutral:

a) He might be recruitable to scum.
b) If it comes down to it, who knows what he'll do if he's one of the last 3? He certainly has no obligation to act protownily.

Cam

exactly, pbug must die, so vote him, now. lets not waste another damn day

[ZONEACE]

how the hell is it a bad lynch? hes not protown as you said, and hes probably scum, and possibly recruitable by scum. so why not kill him? geez. that was teh lamest FOS ever. Im disappointed in you Mathcam.

[ZONEACE]

so does that mean my vote transfers?

[ZONEACE]

Ok, so new plan. Kill KingEnigma.

[ZONEACE]

could we get some real participation in this game please? casuse we got nothing right now.

[ZONEACE]

I guess that's the Gentlemen again, then? There were probably other lesser bad guys in some of the episodes who's names either couldn't be pronounced or got more powerful if their names were pronounced, but the gentlemen seem like kind of a natural fit here.

Cam

Its definately not the gentlemen if its an unspeakable name. Their power and death has nothing to do with their name, or speaking it.

[ZONEACE]

yes, but it had nothing to do with their names, they were defeated when teh princess screamed.


the only thing in the JossVerse that i can recall that has to do with a name and its being spoken defeating someone is Jasmine from season 4 of Angel.

[ZONEACE]

Glorys defeat didnt hav eto do with her name. It was jsut beating the hell out of her with the Troll God's Hammer. The first has no name.

[ZONEACE]

I was only throwing out suggestions with Glory and The First, but for all I know it could be the cheese man.

granted, but what kind of role would the cheese man play. he had no meaning, joss has said that the cheese man was just something he threw into Restless to confuse viewers and make them ask why?

[ZONEACE]

why? everything ive said has been logical and true.

fos vraakx

for his baseless accusation

[ZONEACE]

and its not possible that we are both innocent?


also, what the hell? proof of his innocence? what kind of proof?

[ZONEACE]

just a note, we really need to lynch someone today, because we didnt lynch anyone yesterday and well, we are just giving the scum free kills by doing that.

[ZONEACE]

unvote King Enigma

Im still suspicious, i think we need explore other avenues, Plus he is contibutin to the game quite a bit, while we have other people that are not.

[ZONEACE]

However, my role hints that this game doens't take place that far along, at least not in the last season.

this is something from early in the game, and i completely forgot about this post. My role om suggests we are near the end of the run of buffy, but id like to hear from PBug what about hsi role makes him think we aren't very far along, and also his investigative abilities.

[ZONEACE]

this is something from early in the game, and i completely forgot about this post. My role om suggests we are near the end of the run of buffy, but id like to hear from PBug what about hsi role makes him think we aren't very far along, and also his investigative abilities.

ok obviously im a moron. and the one i want to hear from about the investigation is Vraak X.

[ZONEACE]

hmm thats not a bad theory KE. kind of like an evil vampire cult group. its something to look into in the future, but i still think we need to lynch someone today, and i say we postpone the death of KE until atleast tomorrow as he is participating and adding good things to the game. LEts go after a subpar participator.

[ZONEACE]

There are two verses. We're all but one from the obvious. That one is scary and full of love and has a covering that cannot be seen through 'less you have the blood of the holy on your hands. Alas not many do realize evil when its afoot for the fear.

this post just jumped out at me. "There are two verses". Buffyverse and ANgelverse is my guess. "All but one are fromt he obvious." Everyone int he game is fromt he buffyverse except one person.


JASMINE IS IN THE GAME.

"That one is scary and full of love and has a covering that cannot be seen through 'less you have the blood of the holy on your hands."



that right there is perfect description of jasmine. She brought pure peace to the world by taking away free will. The only way to see her true form was to mix her blood with yours. Jasmine is the one person in this game not from the buffyverse. we need to watch out for here.





also, id like to ask Vraak about his comment that no one can be brought back from the dead with out him. I think its time you completely clean and let us know everything. cause im starting to suspect you could be some evil force with power over the dead.

[ZONEACE]

i admit my accusation of vraak is a little baseless, but im just playing a hunch, and its probably a bad one, but oh well, ill play it out.

[ZONEACE]

id like to hold off on the KE lynch until tomorrow, as i th ink we can gather more information by lynching someone else and seeing what happens tonight. But we definately need to find out who is jasmine. That should be our first priority.

[ZONEACE]

okay reading back i noticed that when Vraak first started posting he had mentioned that he is searching for someone and that willow can help him find her. He is speaking in a british accent and we all assume that he is Giles.

What if he is Spike? Just throwing that out there. Spike tries to get Willow to make a love potion for Drusilla. Way back in season 3. Fool for Love I think....

thatd be swell if he hadnt said anything about nerdy glasses or the nancy boy tribe.

[ZONEACE]

Jenny Callendar was the schools computer teacher and giles' girlfriend until she was killed by angel after he lost his sould after having sex with buffy.

[ZONEACE]

Vote: Vraak

Brings up that hes looking for Jenny Calendar after he is called out on the searching for someone. This vote may be futile since I'm the biggest target out there, but this is just to much for me. Thus the vote.

Sorry you feel that way mathcam, but I would probably do the same thing in your position. I can not be trusted. I'm a liability even though I am officially neutered.

i have to agree, Vraak is looking scumier and scimmier with every post.

Vote Vraak

[ZONEACE]

Man, that's tough. While I find Vraak by far the most suspicious, I'm very uneasy leaving KE alive. Though not really suspicious, I'm a little surprised by your willingness to abandon your start-of-the-day passion for lynching KE.

Cam

I havent abandoned it, ive just postponed it. I think we would better served by lynching someone else and then getting information from that and what happens at night, and another note from our note sender. (idont remember who that was off the top of my head), and we might have another day with a second note, like we did yesterday.

[ZONEACE]

ok, unvote vraak but FOS

We need to lynch someone but i think we should wait on KE.

Im gonna review a few things, but for now, im at a loss.

[ZONEACE]

He isn't a He at all, but more like a girl. The one who wasn't so powerful but after all was released became as powerful as the rest.
But power is to be used wisely right? This one seems to be a bit off kilter

Im still curious about this note that Pbug got on day 2. He said willows told him to post it right away and that it was info about a player. There was some discusion about it, but nothing really in depth. I think we sould go back to it. The only person i can think of throughout buffy that wasn't reall the sex tey appeared was Glory, who was living in the body of Ben, but glory and ben were really tow entities inhabiting the same body, so thats unlikely.

It could refer to a male character that was womanly, like maybe andrew or johnathan. Both males that had gender identity issues. THats a bit of a stretch too, and neither of them had any powers.

anyone got any other thoughts on who that could be a description of? cause im kind of running out of ideas, and i know buffyverse like i grew up there.

[ZONEACE]

Ok, i have a plan. It requires i be alive tomorrow, so i will not reveal it until i know im alive tomorrow. But, its not entirely foolproof, but it will help confirm either someone as an innocent, or reveal someone as guilty. I know this will be controversial, but im gonna

vote no lynch

i realize we missed a lynch yesterday, but i dont think it hurt us too much. and i can gurantee that a no lync today will not cause the town the town to loose tonight. Besides KE, we dont really have any good targets, and id like to postpone that at least one more day, as his being alive helps, because, if my plan fails then we have a definite lync target (assuming he survives te night , but i dont see the mafia killing him if he is telling hte truth, cause itd be a wasted kill). Please just trust me. I think i can have this all figured out sometime during the day tomorrow.

[ZONEACE]

The reason i think keeping KE around is a good idea is because having someone who is Possibly scum (and only possibly, there is nothing derfinate yet, no matter how you look at it) that contributes is a positive way to the, is better than getting rid of one of the about 4 people that are participating regularly.


we need to hit up these lurkers, liek Olio, who voted for mathcam and then disappeared, or warpdragon. If you really feel my no lynch is such a bad idea. Ill ammend my plan and vote, but not for KE, im gonna vote for one of our lurkers

vote olio

who hasnt posted but 4 times this month, one of wich was a vote on Mathcam for FOSing me, after olio had previously FOSed me.


ALso, apparently Jediknight is having his ass kicked by moving, which, if this is true, he should have asked for a replacement. Non participants do not help.

[ZONEACE]

woops

unvote nolynch

then

vote olio

[ZONEACE]

JUST A NOTE, i realize im voting for buffy, but scummy behavior+lurking=vote from me.

[ZONEACE]

I'm still very curious on why ZONEACE is so willing to hold off an adamant charge against PBuG (now KingEnigma). Is it an act of defiance against the bandwagon, or is he trying to sway the town from lynching the mafiosi that he knows?
.

how many freaking times do i have to say, i re-evaluated the situation, and came up with a plan, it involved everyone (well except who ever gets mafiakilled at night) being alive tomorrow, obviously, im gonna have to ammend that plan, because we are lynching KingEnigma.

[ZONEACE]

I, however, have more pressing news: I got a note last night (origin unknown) saying that "the blood of SubtleTactix would reveal a truth."

That seems like it's pretty important/scummy...anyone have any thoughts? Maybe Tactix is Jasmine?

Say what!? The note must be of non-town origin, if not totally fake. I'm a townie (should I role-claim?), and my next move seems obvious. I smell a ploy which warrants...

Vote: mathcam

.
--Tactix

um at this point, throwing votes aound is a little dangerous. it only a takes 4 to lynch and we dont know how many scum there are. ok so

fos subtle tactix

now for my plan. we all need to claim. id like Mathcam and subtle to be the first.

[ZONEACE]

actually, subtle. im gonna request you unvote mathcam, or i will instruct everyone to vote for you. we have not killed any scum yet. it is day 4 and there are still scumm lurking around. we dont have any clue how many, and with only 4 votes to lynch, we cant be having people toss their votes about willy nilly.

[ZONEACE]

no, because as ST said, the note could be fradulent, or a down right lie. even with the extreme scumminess of ST my plan will still work and could actually reveal ST to be simply a misguided townie, or it could confirm hiss scumminess and reveal the target of lynch after him.

[ZONEACE]

umm, no said, i shouldnt claim, i siad that you and mathcam should claim first.


listen, ill say this. do we all remember the second note on day 2, the one no one took responsibility for, well, im responsible, and im also responsible for one thats gonna show up today. now claim, or i will vote you, im sure mathcam wont have any trouble follwing suit with that.

[ZONEACE]

ok i have to quick reply cause i cant get the quoe button to woek. would you both stop being so scummy and just claim. after everyone has claimed the significance will be revealed and we will probably know of atleast 1 scum, and possible 2.

[ZONEACE]

why didn't i want to to reveal myself as someone with an ability like that? gee i dont know, maybe because i didn't want to set myself up and big target to whatever the evil force in this game is.

now would you and mathcam please claim so the rest of us can claim and get this over with so that we can move on and i can explain to you all how the town can win?

[ZONEACE]

i know its a bit early but id like to request prods of everyone who hast posted yet today. wer are down to 7 and only 3 of us are doing anything currently.

[ZONEACE]

oh just for everyone, FD will be the one recieving the note.

[ZONEACE]

i dont know whats in it.

[ZONEACE]

I know what the note is about, but i dont have previous knowledge of its contents.

please. canwe do the mass claim now? mathcam and subtle first. then the rest of us can go in any order.

[ZONEACE]

FD, who would you like to role-claim first? Should it be...

A) ZONEACE, who lied about sending a note to PBuG, who claims to have a secret plan but won't tell us what it is, and who is trying to muscle through his plan without concensus,

B) mathcam, who has pulled a note out of the ether suggesting my guilt,

or

C) Me, who has done nothing more suspicious than doubt the validity of said plans and notes?

when did i lie?

I wont reveal the plan because it involves you and mathcam claiming before i reveal it because if you know the plan before you claim, and you are scum, it might give you some extra information to make a believable false claim


back to my lying. When the hell did i lie about sending a not to pbug? NEVER> stop making shit up. you know, screw my plan.

vote subtle tactix

if you wont claim, ill start a bandwagon on you, maybe youll die quikly, cause you certainly arent doing anything to help to town.

[ZONEACE]

regardless of who FD picks, i wont reveal anything of my role or my plan unbtil both you and mathcam claim.


umm, protecting myself at the expense of pbug is something i can live with. revealing that i was responsible for th note on day 2 would have exposed me, and made me a target for the mafia. why would i do that? if you are a townie, you are the worst one i have ever seen. for your sake i hope you are scum.

[ZONEACE]

this is bull shit why am i all of a sudden a suspect? i have done nothing but help the town with deciphering notes, and figuring out how they apply to the game. all of a sudden im suspect number one. this is bogus. the town is obviously full morons if they cant see that atleast one of mathcam and subtle are scum, possibly both. we (the town) need to take our thumbs out of our asses and put pressure on them to claim. then the rest of us need to claim.

[ZONEACE]

ugh, i really wish i could lynch both mathcam and subtletactix right now, cause both are doing nothing but holding up the progress of the game.





i would like to make another request that anyone not yet posting today be prodded and if they do not respond be replaced. there is no reason for only 4 people to be participating. its the end game people, we all need to be here,

[ZONEACE]

unvote tactix

fos jedi

willy is not a "good" guy. he only gives info when he is threatened with violence. now mathcam, time for you to claim.

[ZONEACE]

Let's not overlook the fact that mathcam might not be telling the truth in terms of what his note says. Maybe he and somebody else were targeted, and now mathcam's using his note to deceive you all into thinking I'm scum. Why couldn't that be?

Also, ZONEACE gives me major scum vibes. He said he couldn't reveal that he sent the note to PBuG, because the scum might kill him. Yet he had no qualms with announcing: "I have a plan to out scum that requires me to be alive tomorrow." (Post 399) Why weren't you worried at this point that scum would kill you? I mean, which would worry scum more?

A) A townie can send confusing notes to other townies and nobody understands them!
B) A townie has found a way to out scum tomorrow!

Yet somehow ZONEACE made it through the night, and scum decided warpdragon was the better target. It doesn't make any sense... unless ZONEACE is scum.

Mathcam and ZONEACE must be scum -- that's my read. I'll vote for either one at this point.

--Tactix

ok you want to know why i wasnt worried about the scum killing, one of my abilities is limited Night Kill Imunity. but back to the subject at hand. Matchcam, you gonna claim anytime soon?

[ZONEACE]

ok you want to know why i wasnt worried about the scum killing, one of my abilities is limited Night Kill Imunity. but back to the subject at hand. Matchcam, you gonna claim anytime soon?

listen mathcam, if you claim, and its believeable, ill vote tactix, because he was right that the note was about him, but if you read the note, its not about cordelia. the last note i was resonsible for was confusing and didnt state the character was about. im ositive that WW would not make the note i was responsible for that easy to understand, because frankly, no other note, or poste from willow involving flavor or game info has been easy to understand. i dont bellieve STs claim, but im not comfortable ending the day not knowing who you are and to make you happy, after you claim, ill claim. so it will al be out in the open.

[ZONEACE]

ok you want to know why i wasnt worried about the scum killing, one of my abilities is limited Night Kill Imunity. but back to the subject at hand. Matchcam, you gonna claim anytime soon?

If this is true, then why didn't you tell us about the note you sent PBuG? I'm starting to think you're making this up as you go along.
--Tactix

how many god damned times do i have to tell you, i didnt want to out myself on day 2. I only have limited night kill immunity. by limited i mean, i can only be immune a few times. ok. my night choice is whetehr i wan tto be immune or not. so i didnt want to out myself and then force myself to use the immunity so early.

[ZONEACE]

ZONEACE and SubtleTactix reek scum right now, but the former more than the latter.

Finger of Suspicion (and another, less-mild variant of FOS): to ZONEACE

FOS: SubtleTactix

why am i the most suspicious. you say shit, but you dont justify.

[ZONEACE]

it was still too early. if i had told everyone then, it opens the scum up to moreo informantion than they needed at the time. you know what, im through answering your questions, because you are scum. its obvious. your claim of cordelia was lame, and obviously becasue you thought it was safe after it being int he note, about you. but you arent her. so as soon and mathcam gets back and calims, you are done. cause i make three votes and im sure someone else will be willing to get rid of you.

[ZONEACE]

you know what mathcam, you are in no way helping this game, but im gonna claim, cause you are all complete frickin retards for thinking im scum.


Im Faith. yes The Rogue Slayer, except here im not rogue, im a good guy. I have sever night kill immunities, and on even days i can target someone, and a note gets sent to someone at random with the results of my investigation. i am told who gets the note, but not what is in it.

vote mathcam

for refusing to claim. you dont want to, ill add a pressure. maybe that will light a fire under your untownly ass.

[ZONEACE]

its obvious isnt it?

[ZONEACE]

I guess you mind.

I'm this --> ><
close to vote you, Zoneace. If you can't give direct answers, you're not helping town. All this squeezing of information from you makes it look like you're really making it up all along.

omg, you sure are touchy.

its mathcam and tactix.


also, Jasmine is obviously in the game. Do we all remember the note about the 2 verses and everyone but one being from the verse epected. That note went on to desribe the person from the Angelverse, and it was obvious from the description that it was Jasmine.

[ZONEACE]

OMG you all are the dumbest people ever. lynch me, and lose the game the game, ok. fine i dont care any more. i had a plan that could win us the game and you all turned on. so you know, kill me, lose and lets move on to a new game, cause this is getting boring. im done with this game cause you all have decided to stop playing it rationally and go with the no logic approach. so ill be off in south park and sangreal and my other theme park game that is still reasonable. you all have fun losing.

[ZONEACE]

please lynch me, please so i can be done with this shit. you are all wrong, i am not scum , yet you all insist on saying that i am, despite my unending aid to a town that obviously doesnt deserve it.

[ZONEACE]

umm, no one seems the least bit suspicious of mathcams refusal to claim. that strikes me as odd. why arent you people worried about this, and voting accordingly, because, if i remember correctly, he's the only one left to have not claimed.

[ZONEACE]

would someone else please vote mathcam so he'll claim.

[ZONEACE]

For Christs's sake, ZONEACE. Could you please provide the town with one good reason, one piece of "logic" explaining this burning desire you have for me to claim? Because so far, you haven't presented any.

I'm extremely close to unvoting Tactix and voting for ZONEACE. There are a couple of unlikely ways that the note could lead us astray, but I can't see any way ZONEACE would be acting this way if he were actually working in favor of the town.

Cam

the reason, because you are the only one left to not claim, and i want to see who you are, because you remember that note on day too i was responsible for, its about you. so if you claim, we can easily clear up your innocence, if your role corresponds with the slightly confusing words of that note. ok. now do it, and help the town,.

[ZONEACE]

mathcam is innocent.

unvote mathcam

i wont reveal cams role, since he doesnt want too much about it, but i know exactly who he is now. Cam, if possible, could you possible reveal your name? if you can do this for me, ill change my vote to tactix

[ZONEACE]

i dont beleive tactix's claim, but i want to hold my vote until mathcam responds to my request. the reason i dont beleive tactix, is we essentially know that Jasmine is in this game, and tactix claimed cordelia. First, Cordelia is in a coma as son as jasmine is born and long past her death. Second, Cordelia was evil in the time leading up to Jasmines birth.

[ZONEACE]

ok,

vote tactix

[ZONEACE]

So...anyone got any notes?

I'll leave my list of suspicions until we get all of our info out in the open.

Cam

Ok, we know FD is xander, I am Fatith, and i have substaniated my claim with the revelation of tactix role. I believe mathcams claim as from teh time i saw the note that was the result of my investigation ive thought he was a potential and none of the potentials are evil. Im still a little wary of vraak but i feel fonfident enough to

vote jedi knight

[ZONEACE]

So...anyone got any notes?

I'll leave my list of suspicions until we get all of our info out in the open.

Cam

Ok, we know FD is xander, I am Fatith, and i have substaniated my claim with the revelation of tactix role. I believe mathcams claim as from teh time i saw the note that was the result of my investigation ive thought he was a potential and none of the potentials are evil. Im still a little wary of vraak but i feel fonfident enough to

vote jedi knight

[ZONEACE]

mathcam. it doesnt matter which one it is. with the pattern of deaths (one a night) im guess in we have a scum to town rate of 1:4, so even if we are wrong it will be 1:3 then tomorrow 1:2 and the 2 lynch whichever one (jedi or vraak) is still alive. even if the ratio is 2:3, the 2 would have to be vraak and jedi so we just lynch one today and one tommorow and win.

[ZONEACE]

im also curious to know what happened on a privious night that allowed us to lynch cordelia/jasmine.

[ZONEACE]

mathcam. it doesnt matter which one it is. with the pattern of deaths (one a night) im guess in we have a scum to town rate of 1:4, so even if we are wrong it will be 1:3 then tomorrow 1:2 and the 2 lynch whichever one (jedi or vraak) is still alive. even if the ratio is 2:3, the 2 would have to be vraak and jedi so we just lynch one today and one tommorow and win.

[ZONEACE]

Actually, let's avoid another Mountainous mafia.

UNVOTE: JediKnight

Hrm. Give me some time to ponder.

WE lynch jedi. If the game isnt over, tomorrow we lynch you. Tomorrow i also get another investigation. which ill use on you. i can gurantee my survival til tomorrow (barring you guys lynching me but i dont see that happening usless you have a collosal brain fart at the same time) so its a sure win for the town no matter what we do (as long as we lynch jedi today).

[ZONEACE]

[QUOTE=Willows Weep]No chance to revisit that heaven though...perhaps she's somewhere cool though. [/QUOTE]

this line from the night scene perplexed me. Im not sure what to make of it.

[ZONEACE]

No chance to revisit that heaven though...perhaps she's somewhere cool though.

this line from the night scene perplexed me. Im not sure what to make of it.










sorry for the double post, but i suck at coding.

[ZONEACE]

Are we being too quick in dismissing Xander from the possible scum list? Xander

was

evil in a couple of episodes...

Cam

i thought this, but with the way this game is going, i threw that out. If either faith or xander was gonna be evil id say faith would be evil before xander, cause, well she was evil for 2 years, while xander was evil in 1 episode (Through the looking glass was the episode i think. Anyway, its the one where Codelia wishes that Buffy had never come to sunnydale and anya granted it.) but since faith isnt evil i dont think xander is. Also, with the chronosetting of the game (apparently buffy season 7 and angel season 5 (assumed because of the inclusion of a good faith, a potential, and jasmine)) there is no way xander is evil cause his evil episode was in season 2 (mayeb 3, i forget exactly when that episode was, but it was long before the time period of this game). anyway, mathcam, i agree vraak is scummy, but is there specifically something about my plan that you dont like (besides the fact that you dont think Jedi wouls sell out his Godfather)?

[ZONEACE]

the only way a lynch today wins the game for scum is if we lynch myself, mathcam or FD.

[ZONEACE]

the only way a lynch today wins the game for scum is if we lynch myself, mathcam or FD.

and thats only if there are 2 scum left.

[ZONEACE]

2) You know that if you get a quick lynch on me today then you can night kill Zoneace and claim that you were framed by the scum cause he SAID you were his night target. In Zone's own words he can either protect himself or investigate but not both right? (This seems the most likely choice in my mind.)

the problem with this is i can gurantee my survival for tonight.

Can I ask what makes you confident enough to vote me Zoneace? Is it cause Willy is "evil" in the show? So were several of the confirmed non-scummies in this game if you look. My note to mathcam clarified your result on Tactix...perhaps the godfather had to be targetted in both ways to be lynched?[/b]

you being willy is one of the main reasons, also, there is the fact that even if you arent scum, that essentially confirms vraak as scum, and then we just kill him tomorrow. I have not doubt FD is xander and not scum. I have no dount mathcam is a potential slayer and not sum, i have no doubt i have faith and not scum. i have doubt about both you and vraak but more doubt about you. that is my reason.

[ZONEACE]

2) You know that if you get a quick lynch on me today then you can night kill Zoneace and claim that you were framed by the scum cause he SAID you were his night target. In Zone's own words he can either protect himself or investigate but not both right? (This seems the most likely choice in my mind.)

the problem with this is i can gurantee my survival for tonight.

Can I ask what makes you confident enough to vote me Zoneace? Is it cause Willy is "evil" in the show? So were several of the confirmed non-scummies in this game if you look. My note to mathcam clarified your result on Tactix...perhaps the godfather had to be targetted in both ways to be lynched?

you being willy is one of the main reasons, also, there is the fact that even if you arent scum, that essentially confirms vraak as scum, and then we just kill him tomorrow. I have not doubt FD is xander and not scum. I have no dount mathcam is a potential slayer and not sum, i have no doubt i have faith and not scum. i have doubt about both you and vraak but more doubt about you. that is my reason.









OMG i suck at manual coding.

[ZONEACE]

ok jedi you obviously dont understand. My investigation happens during the day. I make my choice and the note gets sent during the day on even days, and i can gurantee that i will survive until tomorrow, an even day. meanin gi can gurantee an investigation from me tomorrow. no matter what happens today (unless todays actions end teh game which i dont see happening unless we lynch you and you are the only remaining scum.

[ZONEACE]

god forbid we ever listen to what i say.

[ZONEACE]

you people like did the opposite of whatever i said, and that was the death of us. I said, kill pbug, you didnt, i said dont kill KE, you did, i said kill jedi knight you didnt. wtg everyone.

[ZONEACE]

umm, who the hell was mathcam?

[ZONEACE]

Kennedy.

Cam

how the hell were you scum?

[ZONEACE]

Kennedy.

Cam

i mean, she was a bitch, but she wasn't evil. trowing her in as scum with jasmine and the bar guy is completely unfair, and out of flavor with the rest of the game.

[ZONEACE]

what unfairities ont he towns side?

[ZONEACE]

I think bringing people back to life and multiple investigative roles are a pretty good start.

really, cause i thought the investigative roles were rather unhelpful. My investigations were only on even days, and renderend almost incomprehensible results. the other notes gave us basic game info (still incomprehensible, and stuff that made up for the lack of everything in the death scenes and role info given upon death). and from what was given, bringing people back to life was not an easy process.

[ZONEACE]

you had it easy. there was no way that anyone who knew anything about Buffy/Angel would ever think Kennedy would be scum, especially not with jasmie and willie. never. you practically had someone that if their claim was believed, would never be lynched, because their character could not ahve been scumw ith the other scum characters.

[ZONEACE]

yah, especially if i had been killed. cause i would have been proven, and you would have been vouched for, and defended. you give a good player, a role that is flavor wise, not scuma dn make them scum they have an advantage, especially when you have people in the game who know a lot about the theme of the game and express how not scum certain characters are.

[ZONEACE]

you didnt need to, apparently willow made my knowlege a show an advantage to you from the beggining.

[ZONEACE]

Hiding information. You would have done the same thing in my position. i felt my role was important and crucial so i withheld stuff that would paint a target on me for the scum. and the reason i got upset, is because the town made every effort to lose this game.