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Many feel that using a dice method to cast your votes is not showing your own responsibility of casting a vote, and man feel, as well, that it is Anti-Town. With that being said, some view it also as policy lynch worthy. What do you think?Jaime Marcelle wrote:How does using a dice avoid responsibility other then any other random vote? It's just as random as anything else.
Also I reccomend everyone get an avatar. It's easier (for me at least, I'm not sure about everyone else) for me to tell everyone apart.-
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Well, that depends. In a situation such as so, it is very easy to get a read off of a person by gauging their answer. If you were town, would it matter if it were policy lynch worthy? After all, it isJaime Marcelle wrote:
Unless I am mistaken he asked me: a person who RVed with a dice about what I thought about policy lynches on dice rollers. Now what did you think I would answer?Leon wrote:If it's policy lynch worthy? Why wouldn't it be? I see no reason for why it wouldn't be beneficial. That is, asking the question itself.justa question. You answered in a way that makes me look at you more now.-
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Yeah, I had plans to come back and post more after taking my shower. I'll do so in a bit.Tracey Morris wrote:
So what does that say about your half commit, non binding attitude to his lynch? You couldn't be more of a fence sitter. Your not getting in the way of his lynch is duly noted; as is your contradictory suspicion of anyone that is attacking him as an easy target.Leon Dreyfus wrote:I don't oppose lynching Stuart, but from the look of it I'd say that he is the "easy" target. Meaning that scum are trying to push his lynch.
IGMEOY: Leon Dreyfus
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Guys. I've contacted Malthusius and talked to him. He knows I'm going to be away and requested I put so in my alt sig. As I did, but I thought it would be better I posted to tell you in case you didn't notice. I'm going to be AWOL, a way on life, for a few days. Things have happened and seem to pile up all at once. Sorry, I'll be back hopefully in a few days.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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I've really gotta stop posting from my phone!!!!! T-T
Anyways, what I meant was that it was too unanimous for him to be scum. To me it was pretty obvious that there was no bussing going on. Normally they stall out, until they've seen other potential targets. I didn't see that. So it was little things like that made me think he was the "easy" target.
Otto's claim is sticking by what he said, Jaime. I think you're interpreting it wrong.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Claude, you seem pretty off to me. Off enough to me that i'm strongly considering you scum after your last post. What kills me is that others are saying what scumslips Emile has done and yet you ask him if he would like to lynch me? You seem okay for either, which is what really disturbs me. Most of the time you are going to want to go with the scummier player. Which isn't the case here, you're a-okay to lynch whoever it seems. Try to argue it, but that's definitely the way your posts look.
Now to Emile, I've been okay with an Emile lynch since Day 1, but after Gerhard meta fished I switched over to him. I'm still fine with the Emile lynch. Stuart just came across and grabbed everyone's attention, so the Emile wagon came to a screeching halt.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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To be honesty, I want to lynch Igor. Everyone accredits him for the metafishing catch, when really that was me. He jumped in on it later because my first post was deleted. I'm not sure if my second, on the Leon account was before it. Anyways, I'm in agreement with Andrew right now. Igor needs to go probably, I see pretty much no way that Andrew is scum. He hasn't been on my radar all game long.
Vote: IgorSorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Hahaha, flailing scum buddy.Jaime Marcelle wrote:I'm beginning to get a little sucpicious of Claude for hammering before we even got a claim out of Emile. Anyway, if I see that Emile flips town I will definately be voting Igor while if he flips scum I'll probably vote Leon (maybe Claude. I dunno. But still, probably Leon).
Edward: Explain how you say he looks town by the timing of his vote?Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Right after saying Claude was off, further down my suspicion jumped to Igor.
Claude seems okay to me, nothing outstanding to be honest. Just more neutral.
The second carries to the third. The reason that works is, is well because you are my major suspect. Gut never liked you. Ever.
And, not to be rude, but are you serious Edward? Your post is beyond laughable. You just skidded in your own backtracks. I have been in support of an Emile lynch.
I have been scarce this game, I'll admit that. I guess I'll read more than get back.
Edward gains a nice look for his brake slamming and nailing reverse.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Edward, I was in support of an Emile lynch. There's no twisting it or turning it, as hard as you may try. My vote was on Igor because he to was acting scummy, and plus I know it was no excuse, but it was the Holidays and I was meaning to once back and post more. Never got to it. Oh well, it's not an excuse.
And as far as OMGUS goes, no, that's such a copout response.
Also, my want of lynching Emile goes back to D1. Far before yours. For all we now you could've bussed, right?Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Yeah, time constraints have been killing me. Plus I can't post on my phone in this game due to it being an alt. Which like 75% of my mafia posts are made from as of late.
Anyways, I'll be honest, and upfront about it. I haven't kept up with this game much. I have gutted this entire game, by what was going on here and now each time I checked. So if you want me to solidify my stance, it's pretty much all gut reads from what I've seen. I honestly look at Jaime in this regard:
Dumb or Scum.
He's done nothing that impresses me in a town aspect, now, if he's scum...my hat will go off to him for fooling the town.
Now, I guess it's bothersome, but I'll do it to keep the game from being lost on behalf of my laziness. I'm going to reread the entire game and post my thoughts. But not before January 1st. I have life to attend to.
Until then.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Andrew is town to me, his opinions throughout this game have lead to nothing more than catching scum. He was an active part of the discussion on each day and I have an excellent gut read on him.
Jaime is pretty much the scum partner if any, although I'd say there are three. Meaning we cannot mislynch. Anyways, he hasn't amounted to much of anything other than a constant distraction. At time throughout the game he defended Emile heavily, and then at others he attacked him. Seemed to me a failed distancing attempt in many shapes and forms. My gut read on him was terrible ever since he butted heads with me on D1, it just felt TvS. Go back and look at it for yourself. It just doesn't feel like to town forces. With that gumption, I will claim. I am a Vanilla Townie. I do not remember if that is the exact name of it or not as I do not have my role PM on this account. So I cannot refer to it. Anyways,Vote: Jaime
Claude has given me several odd vibes throughout the game, however, my gut is calling him town. I'm usually not one to rely on gut but I've been trying to improve my gut skills. He just comes off to me as town.
Edward in all honesty was excellent in my book until he all of the sudden claims I'm scum. No notion of it until that point. So it kinda made me think he was grasping. He apparently had me as the most townie, iirc, in that post on D2 I believe. Then all of the sudden with no leading changes, he comes out that I'm scum. No, that just didn't hit me well. It seemed like he majorly backpedaled. However, looking back at it now I don't see it as bad considering he made a solid stance on me on D2.
UNLIKE JAIME WHO HAS LEFT AREA TO BACKOUT THE ENIIIIIIIRRRREEEE GAME!
Spencer I honestly don't have a gut read on you. You're pretty much nuetral to me, but definitely leaning town for today.
So my vote lands and rests on Jaime.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Nope, I did not.malthusis wrote:Just a comment: You all realize that the Vanilla Townie PM is in the first post of the game, right?
And Edward, you are grasping at straws hard. I can't support two peoples lynches right? I found both of them scummy. Easy as that. You're acting as if the world ends because I stayed on Igor's.
You are tunneling hard and grasping at everything possible to make it seem logical in your mind that I am scum.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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I am almost 100% sure that Jaime is scum. Town doesn't act like he does.Claude Lefevre wrote:--not finished yet, I am doing my best but I am back at work these days--
still, I need to ask Leon a question, and I think it is pretty urgent.
post 597: you say we cannot mislynch, cuz in your opinion we are more or less on lylo (I dissent: if there were 3 scums alive they could prolly force a nl and they'd win). Then you vote. Then in post 605 you say we gotta keep scumhunting. do you realize that if you cast your vote on a townie, according to your theory, it would be potential game over? So there are just 2 possibilities:
1) u r lying and u r scum
2) u are really 100% convinced that Jaime is scum
which one?
I want to keep going though and discussing this though so that I can be sure.
Also, Edward, u mad.
Also, essentially Jaime only keeps parroting the one person who thinks he's town. Edward. It's like a love story, Jaime's his Bella! <3Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Any other time I wouldn't care about that plan and would hammer myself, other than, if we lynch wrong....we lose.
You keep talking up Jaime's vote switch, but one pro-town thing the entire game does not justify the rest of it. I'm calling it a cleverly timed vote jump.
He is either VI, or the more than likely blatant obvious scum.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Scum is typically 1/4 of a game. So1/4 of 12= 3. Only one scum is dead, and one indy. Indies do not typically count towards the scum. So, I'm saying there's probably two scum left. If we lynched town today, and town gets killed tonight. We're done for. If we lynch scum today, we'd be set to win it. If we no lynch today, we're back at the same point we are today with relatively no extra information other than PoE.
Also, Spencer, are you familiar with the phrase dumb or scum? If he knows Igor's wagon wasn't going to go, he would switch and bus his partner. To where a tunnel would be formed on his towniness. Not that hard of a concept, and if it is so, you are falling for it as planned.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Uhm, if you're going to kill me tomorrow, just do it today. Scum will not kill me tonight, so the same suspicion will exist tomorrow. It's that easy to undermine the No Lynch. If you lynch me today, you at least, hopefull, have a chance of winning tomorrow.
Also, I'm not playing with your emotions. It seems like your trying so hard to falsely incriminate me. I am just saying if you're going to lynch me regardless, do it today so town still has a chance.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Your bolded part is funny as well, Edward, as you are essentially just trying to annoy me.
And just so we're clear, one town thing in an ENTIRE game of other town actions does not make up for a game of scum. I have NO idea where you are getting this from.
This is honestly the "want to play it safe as possible" town that I have ever seen. Playing it safe DOES NOT always work.
All I can say is, be lucky I'm not a vig. My vote is not moving, and I'm pretty much done with the discussion.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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No one else claim for the moment, we have enough to work with right here.
You have four consecutive Vanilla Townie claims pretty much. That's definitely some kinda bullshit.
(Just got back from an unexpected V/LA, catch up more soon)
Spencer, elaborate if at all possible cause the beginning states the Vanilla PM...a variation of that is weird in a sense that you are still a VT...Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Honestly facepalmed when I read this. Here's your mistake, it's one thing to fess to it, but lying to cover your tracks makes it WORSE.Jaime Marcelle wrote:
I thought that he was claiming that his name was "Merely avarage aquanaut" instead of "able seaman" and I was pushing him for that because I remembered mine as saying Able seaman. However, since I haven't looked at my role PM in a while I forgot about that whole part in parenthisis. I know... I'm an idiot -facepalm-Leon wrote:I call bullshit. When Leon claimed, you said that 'perfectly average aquanaut' did not sound like it came from a real role pm. If you really were a VT, that would be in your role PM as well. Care to explain?
And lurking=/=scummy, there's nothing really to reply to except tunneling and speculation. No one has even as much as mentioned you really, besides Edward.
Spencer is cleared. Claude or you, money NORMALLY would be on Claude, but I just cannot get over the mountain of slips.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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Uh, no it's not. In your opinion it is. When I have nothing to respond to really and other discussion is going on, I'm not going to interrupt it at the time being.Edward Smilie wrote:I'm almost tempted to policy-lynch anyone who ever says this. It's the single scummiest thing a player can do.
Let's see, he claims vanilla, and doesn't even know the main half of his role PM, even after I had done that and had to look back AND Malth told everyone it was in the OP. Yeah, he's a golden egg right there.Sorry, but [b]V/LA[/b] for a bit...-
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