Mini 216 - Final Fantasy Mafia. GAME OVER!

[Bamboomancer]

Hey, I just got my clarifications. I'll post asap.

[Bamboomancer]

Okay. I haven't come up with that much on the whole "who's scum and who's not thing" but ENYH is right, my role name isn't in FFV Per Se. I'm leaning more towards a possible FFXI or even 10-2, but i'm not sure my character is in 10-2. I think that it's likely that there is a black mage that can cast different spells, frog being one of them, but I don't think that's what killed him and as such he's not scum necessarily. It's also possible that the "frogger" was a malboro that inflicts a random status effect. I think that would be interesting and malboro was certainly a prolific enemy. I agree, to an extent, that most of the players are going to be classes or jobs (or dress spheres if it comes to that) but I wouldn't imagine it's that concrete. If that IS our belief, we should immediately go after the claimed "monster", blackberry, but that doesn't sound right to me. Moogles are almost never bad guys. However, if the moogle has a class, then we're talking FFTA, and while I AM in FFTA, there is no alchemist, unless Ezel was. Hmm...

*Looks something up*

Alchemist IS a class for Nu Mou in FFTA!

I also believe it was an attack based class... and it DID have toad. So the "toader" might be gone already.

Since I'm in FFTA, I'm starting to lean towards this as the possibility. However, that would mean that Blackberry is likely one of the moogle only classes, and I think I know which one.

I'm going with FFTA on this one, for the most part. I can't remember any cactuars in it per se, and that's what confuses me, but the protown evidence i've seen makes me believe it too much.

So... I guess that doesn't help but that catches me up as far as hwat you guys have been talking about. Yay!

[Bamboomancer]

I think it did frog in FFTA, but you'll see that by the end of my post I dropped my FFTA Idea. I am firmly in the belief that the Alchemist was the one who cast frog.

[Bamboomancer]

I think it did frog in FFTA, but you'll see that by the end of my post I dropped my MALBORO Idea. I am firmly in the belief that the Alchemist was the one who cast frog.

[Bamboomancer]

((Sorry for double post and this triple post but the second one is right. I think we're talking primarily FFTA and I think that there's no malboro. I just don't understand where the cactuar came from.

It might be best if we didn't limit ourselves to games specifically, but I can't see any other alchemist and think we should assume it WAS a nu mou.))

[Bamboomancer]

Mu Mou is simply the race that contains the alchemist in Tactics Advance. The reason I'm leaning more towards tactics is because it contains a verbatim alchemist, MY role verbatim, AND allows for moogles with classes, which explains blackberry.

[Bamboomancer]

Okay, then Tactics Advance is the game in which moogles who weren't mog DID something, still I think it's our best bet even if it doesn't contain cactuars.

Anyway, we DO need a lynch target.

[Bamboomancer]

Red Mage in tactics advance was a viera class and their weapon of choice was a rapier. However, based on what was just said, i'm going to...

Vote: Blackberry

[Bamboomancer]

I think we ALL have fluff, and blackberry's response to that was too intense. I've now seen three protown roleclaims that have been classes (this is including myself)

Blackberry continues to say that he doesn't have a class, but has conveniently refused claiming repeatedly. I would like to see a blackberry claim to show us why we should keep a moogle around and not a class.

[Bamboomancer]

I missed the masonry claim, that's my bad.

But I still think it's weird that there's no "fluff" in your role, because I think the fluff actually has a game mechanic associated with it.

gogogogogo mod outguessing.

Right now, I flat out DO NOT believe you, blackberry. I know this is probably bad seeing as you're probably a mason but I just don't buy you at all.

[Bamboomancer]

I firmly belive him, in fact, this is the "mod outguessing" that I intended earlier. I want to hear, from blackberry, the fluff in his role, or I'm going to push for a full on lynch. I don't believe a word he says and I think his reactions have been ridiculous.

[Bamboomancer]

My guess is that the fluff in our roles described something that could be stolen by the thief. My fluff includes an object, the red mage had a rapier, etc.

[Bamboomancer]

Seems to me that as long as he doesn't get something that indicates "Monster" it's probably protown. I'll drop blackberry for now but let it be known that I am HIGHLY suspicious of him. I have to wonder who the other person is that he thinks is protown.

As far as today's lynch, I'm liking Lucresia, especially with the impending deadline.

Though I think we should lynch blackberry and protect his mason buddy,.

Okay, NOW i'm dropping that.

Anyway,

UNVOTE

Let's hear from lucresia before we lynch.

[Bamboomancer]

well that was five hours ago... and I'll be damned if i'm letting a no lynch through

Vote: Lucresia

I do what I do today to stop a no lynch. Nothing more.

[Bamboomancer]

He did say "friendly" and that implies "having made friends"

So it's possible that he was a mason. I'm waiting for SO's result before I do anything.

[Bamboomancer]

yes, BUT, do we have any better leads? Deaths have oft been by stabbing. I'm not ready to give him that benefit of the doubt, SO.

This is as good as evidence as we can hope for.

Vote: Thesp

[Bamboomancer]

I've discussed the forgshape at length repeatedly, and I believe that it was the alchemist that did it. The alchemist in FFTA gets the spell toad which does frogshape, he learns it from the mandragora if I remember correctly.

Given that list and my beliefs I am almost certain that Thesp is scum.

You wouldn't get a dagger from a mason and you wouldn't get a dagger from a DOCTOR

So where does the dagger fit in to your little scheme? If you guys are truly believeing what you've posted than you can't NOT lynch Thesp.

I realize my enthusiasm comes up as scummy, but I can't see any other alternative.

As for this list:

1 confirmed cop (SO)
1 vig (Fry Guy)
1 ability-less Blue Mage (ChocoCid)
1 Roleblocker (?????)
1 mason (?????)
1 doc (?????)

1 SK (?????)
1 mafia (?????)

You T'aint got me on it, so it isn't going help ya that much to try to fit me in.

Bamboomancer: Why not go after Overlord first for having a dagger?
Seriously, that was retarded.

Oh, I don't know, because he claimed ROLE COP?

You don't GO AFTER cops. You can be suspicious of them, which I always am, but he seems to have pretty much confirmed himself.

[Bamboomancer]

I never said that the frogshape was a form of roleblock. It could be a vote removal or a day post restriction. You guys aren't thinking any way but the one that you started out as.

This is the box

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Think outside it >.<

[Bamboomancer]

aw, it screwd up my box

[Bamboomancer]

Also:

Sorry for triple post, but I found a doctor that would have a dagger.

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=050723

"Gods work in mysterious ways... Like a healing shiv!"

[Bamboomancer]

Like... The monster mafia and the... stabber mafia? That's possible.

[Bamboomancer]

The point is that we don't know. We can speculate till we're blue in the face but certain people here aren't even open to outside possibilities.

[Bamboomancer]

Two scum/SK would be very balanced if the SK had town masonry... just a thought.

I don't know if you're asking me to claim but I don't think you are. I will if I have to, to shine the light on others, but with the wave of stabbings I just don't see how we can't kill thesp for having a dagger. Of course, we should also point out that this could be a way to make the scum look like town, though that might be over powered.

[Bamboomancer]

I don't see any reason why you should thunder me, but since you're planning on it, I guess I'll claim. The role I took over is the paladin and my ability is cover. There's an ability like it in FFV, but the paladin class and the ability is only in FFTA, which is what my former self was referring to in the early pages. My fluff is a shield.

Basically, i'm a bodyguard. I take on the choices that target someone. Night one, My alter ego targeted thesp and last night I targeted SO the theif.

If you intend to thunder me at least let me defend myself.

[Bamboomancer]

Welcome back to the game, thesp.

Why not? Clearly I need to get SOMETHING to target me or else I'm vanilla, and it would be helpful sooner rather than later.. Have SO investigate me tonight and we'll have two cops or a confirmed scum. Would either be a bad thing?
Lynching me today has to be a mistake, when you can lynch someone who claimed vanilla.

Also, who the hell is responsible for the frogging?

OH MY GOD

NOBODY LISTENS TO ME.

Juggler CONFIRMS this is FFTA. IN FFTA THE ALCHEMIST HAS THE FROGSHAPE ABILITY.

I HAVE SAID THIS SO MANY TIMES

[Bamboomancer]

You have to realize, warpy, that you're a powerless townie.

Thesp. Your ability has a name. What is it. I want to know the next time you come to this thread.

I mean that.

It's possible that without my shield, I won't be able to cover, because what would I cover with. So mabye warpdragon got a new sword simply because it didn't matter.

[Bamboomancer]

Also:

"moogle" was a masonry thing, but there are a lot of classes in this game that have been revealed that are race only.

Alchemist is "Nu Mou" only
Red Mage is "Viera" only
Paladin is "Human" only, as is Fighter

And Theif, however, could be Human or Moogle, so we COULD have additional moogles =P.

My job is to prove everyone can be wrong. Yay Bambooman!

[Bamboomancer]

We are teh roxxor

[Bamboomancer]

Was I right when I said it was FFTA? And about the frogshape being alchemist?


I guess I was wrong about blackberry, but I was trying ot metagame at the time. As soon as I saw the sheild in my role PM, I knew that there was a theif that could steal it, and that was our rolecop.

Did any mafia have any special abilities? I kinda expected at least one more mafia member.

[Bamboomancer]

Oh, I do. But yet you usually expect to see three in a mafia in a 12 player game. I was just curious.

[Bamboomancer]

If the blue mage had been targeted by me, could have have used cover on someone else or just himself. the role pm seems to indicate all his abilities are self targeting.

[Bamboomancer]

so technically, fryguy cast life on me. Yay! i'm doubly alive!

[Bamboomancer]

Hey, it got me suspicious of them, that's for sure =P