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First, I think his real reason for choosing which wagon to vote was that there was more rhetoric behind the one he chose. Second, Vas's response to his explanation is uncomfortably dismissive.
This is the basis of my comment that you understand I prefer Jo at this point. I suppose I may have overstated it, but I didn't see what else you could be referring to.green wrote:I'm still confused by why he thought I was lying, butdoesn't matter anymore.
This came off as quite brusque to me, so I assumed that this sort of thing was the real cause of the suspicion. The content itself is pretty unobjectionable IMO. I don't think you'd have complained about it had the tone been different.SD, regarding SB's vote, wrote:I think random stage is over. Tell me, what is your reason to vote Iec?
Joo wrote:But to be fair Vas mentioned Shadow Dancer as mildly scummy and when commented on that by Jack puts a vote there a few posts later.
Joo thought I was asking Vas about his ESL status for some reason because he didn't know why I would ever ask SD about his, but then he added that the mild scrutiny placed on him might make investigation justified. (That's how I read the quoted part.) My reply affirms that that was the basis of investigating. (I guess it's throwing you off because it doesn't fit the paragraph-for-paragraph answering style?)Iec wrote:You're correct that I am trying to learn more about SD on account of the increased scrutiny.
The second bit is either a pretty silly question, or he thought the alleged following was scummy. So I don't think he was innocently trying to get more information as you prior indicated.Joh iso 3 wrote:@ Iecerint: Explain what happened between post 34 to 36 to make you change your vote.
@ Jack: Would you say that Iecerint is following you or do you read his play between post 30 to 36 in another way?
This earlier post indicates that he was aware that I did not have my PM during the relevant time.Joh iso 2 wrote:I'm a fan of being eager, however, I expect a new post from Iecerint very soon to help us read his role and not only his mood.
Who is more likely to come up with a dubious excuse for an action that has received scrutiny: town or scum?JHH wrote:Why would scum be more likely to lie about the reason (SV's hyperbole crap), than town?
That is the definition of brusque, so I guess we don't disagree, after all.JHH wrote:I didn't agree with you on Shadow Dancer sounding brusque, I thought that his question was precise and to the point.
Intuition. (I'm not "so sure." It was an RVS vote.)ooba wrote:Post 41 - Iecerint - Isn't this akin to mind reading? How are you so sure greenindirt voted because of Reason Y?
Why would I vote GiD or SV when I was busy voting Joh? Also, what would be the hypothetical relevance of having missed the "doesn't matter anymore" part be?ooba wrote:Post 58 - Iecerint - Does not get that phased by "doesn't matter anymore" part of the previous post. Does not vote greenindirt nor SV in this post. Wouldn't be entirely surprised if there's a scum linkages amongst SV, greenindit and Iecerint
Post 61 - Iecerint - So he did notice the "doesn't matter anymore" part. Still suprised that nobody has taken SV's case here. Vas makes a mention that SV is scum in earlier post. Does not follow up with a vote. First person to vote for SV is probably town.
IIRC, you're misreading 109. The correct way to read 109 is that Joh did the same thing as SV, so, to the extent that SV deserves pressure for it, Joh does, too. Then I went into detail about Joh's posts. I find it a little odd that you would apparently get a negative gut from this post, given that you seem to have analogous reservations about Joh.ooba wrote:Post 109/110 - I don't like Iecerint's defensiveness on why he did not vote SV followed by a vote. ( If SV = Scum --> Iecerint = Scum)
Since when is high activity a scumtell?JHH wrote:Talks a lot and tries to be everywhere at once.
Where do you get the buddying vibes? My recollection of the exchange is that we yelled for a bit, and then I told him to STFU because he was just going to give me a stronger scum read on him. Not reminiscent of buddying IMO.JHH wrote:Is kind of buddying up with Jack in their rapid conversation on page 4 and 5. (but that isn’t solely of his making, Jack was part of it too)/
To clarify for everyone, the "playstyle" his post 122 mentions is the fact that I made a few posts before I officially had my role PM. He argued that doing this indicated a "playing it safe" playstyle in the event that I received a scum PM. Worth pointing out because that wouldn't have been my first guess as I read that bit. Also worth pointing out because it transparently has nothing to do with my alignment in this game.JHH wrote:I’m also a bit disturbed by his play style mentioned in post post 122.
I never "attacked" SD's tone. In fact, I did the opposite of that. My point was that English is his second language, so analysis based on his tone is not reliable.
LOLWAT. You were going to ask the apparent vote-winner whether s/he was Poseidon? XDXDVasudeVa wrote:If we know who has the token and the person is luckily Poseidon, we can win faster.
My mistake.ooba wrote:I do not have analogous reservations about Joh.
I misread this as "Trying to appear active postooba wrote:Post 147 - Johoonhno - Not much content - "Trying to appear active" post.
Shadow Dancer, in his comeback post, wrote:What caught my attention right now is the argument between Jack and Iec about my case.
I was a bit sceptical about what seemed to be a buddying attempt by Iec.
However, for the most part he seemed not to defend me but himself against Jack's accusations, that obviously emerged from Iec's assumption that English is not my mother tongue.
And he is right about that, english is my 2nd language.
So that makes him rather a good observer than a suspect.
I get a townish impression from Jack as well. Though he seemed a little bit too focussed on Iec at first (which can happen with only those 2 players generating most of the posts at that time) all his hitherto actions seem like legitimate scumhunting to me.
Never in my life, except before knowing the /diceroll was standard SD, have I posted a case against SD. Are you confusing SD with SV, or did I type the wrong thing somewhere? I ask because JJH apparently made the same error.Snow_Bunny wrote:For once, he attacked SD, but when Iec posted the lame case against him he didn't say a word about it.