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[pman5595]

Vote: pman5595

that scumbag is in a game of mine again? Geez.

[pman5595]

unvote

I'll observe a little more before voting

[pman5595]

I'm to lazy to look up any other games of yours. What do you always do? Through random votes out with no reason whatsoever, no other text, ignore what other people have said and be the embodiment of active lurking?

This pretty much describes cruelty.

hmm. Policy lynch?

[pman5595]

You ruin all the fun

[pman5595]

nah, I've never done one before and it sounds like fun.

and that other thing was just me saying that I didn't have suspicions yet.

[pman5595]

Ah, look votes!

<3

[pman5595]

if you continue to make suggestions like that expect a vote from me.

[pman5595]

I was being half sarcastic. I don't like when people are too eager to jump in and get a vote. I didn't do anything scummy so when people voted me it kind of ticked me off.

[pman5595]

unvote

I'll observe a little more before voting

So have you observed anything that warrants a revote? You have posted several times but have not really said anything. I didn't even realize you self voted in your first post.

Unvote
Vote: pman5595

xvart.

My playstyle is to observe and be more sure than others might be when voting. However, once I have decided on my preferable lynch(es) for the day, I get mad and frustrated when the day goes on. Just an explanation of me not voting FOUR PAGES INTO THE GAME, and a warning for later on.

[pman5595]

@Pman: 'Observe a little more' is sort of a scum mindset, don'tcha think? If you are town, you shouldn't have anything to lose by voting for who you think is scum. You aren't putting people in danger unless there's a pre-existing wagon and it gives us more information on you to work with. As scum, voting = stepping on toes = higher priority for a lynch. You don't want to ruffle feathers and make yourself a target, and in addition you get to pounce on an easy wagon.

I disagree with your point. Town has the same motivation if not more than scum to be sure of their vote. Scum just wants to vote whomever, while town wants to actually get scum. If I am not sure about people, or don't have any suspicions, I am not going to vote for them. I'm sorry.

This wagon is the exact kind of thing I dislike about day 1. Town is too eager and try to just start voting and scumhunting without truly looking at the situation realistically, and scum are eager to jump on anyone they can get on without being too suspicious. Town is letting them do that by being too eager.

[pman5595]

I'm debating between talking sense in to all of you or replacing out.

[pman5595]

it's not a weapon. I'm just informing you that I might be too lazy to knock the sense you need into you.

[pman5595]

I've decided. I will replace out. I can see the conflicts are going to be too much. I am going to respond to every question and then I am done.

Pman the issue with you was that you had
1-voted yourself.

RVS

2-unvoted to observe while Cruelty was getting slack (without giving any sense of an opinion on the matter)

I didn't have an opinion at that point

3-Advocated that you were up for a policy lynch.

I was going by a post by someone about cruelty's alleged terrible meta.

4-Saying you have no opinions but unvoting yourself anyway

RVS was over, RVS vote gone.

5-Advocate you getting more votes and then threatening to vote your voters.

my wagon is a very suspicious thing, I can almost guarantee that some scum are on my wagon.

@Pman. What do you think of policy lynches? Even from theory.

If the player's meta is anti-town, they should claim, and then be lynched if not a power role.

@Pman.

My playstyle is to observe and be more sure than others might be when voting. However, once I have decided on my preferable lynch(es) for the day, I get mad and frustrated when the day goes on. Just an explanation of me not voting FOUR PAGES INTO THE GAME, and a warning for later on.

Does not explain why you unvoted yourself and suggested a policy lynch when Cruelty started getting slack for his playstyle and garnering votes. If you claim to have this coy, observant playstyle then why amnt i seeing it?

because it is way too early in the day for that.

Im unsettled by the rush to lynch Pman. No lynch yet please!!

^^

If I am not sure about people, or don't have any suspicions, I am not going to vote for them. I'm sorry.

Yet you unvoted, ready to self admittedly participate in a policy lynch or have i misunderstood that?

policy lynches are based on the assumption that the policy lynchee is town, it is an added bonus if they are scum, thus making analysis of what group they are a member of unnecessary.

Pman was being half sarcastic with his claim to self vote. Why is the other half not sarcastic?

I was being sarcastic about my "Yay, votes" posts. I disliked that they were on me, but they advance the game.

Also, can you explain your frustration about finally voting someone and the day continuing? You get frustrated for not really contributing and then when you are sure of your target no one listens to you? Or frustrated that it isn't obvious to everyone else why your target should be quicklynched? Or another reason?

I was frustrated with people being too eager and pushing a player to L-2 in 4 pages.

Finally, you say you only vote when you are sure about scum; so your vote on yourself means you are scum?

RVS

Good luck town.

/out.

[pman5595]

this is my bah post:

I could just have easily been town. You got lucky. Go scum.