Mini 949 - Rainbow Robot Unicorn Attack! - Over

[Robocopter87]

Sorry Guys I totally forgot about this game and I'm sorry.

vote:Dramonic

.
I extremly dislike his jump on Ani it wasn't right and his eagerness to lynch him really rubs me the wrong way.

Also, Many colors in beginning make big migraine.

[Robocopter87]

Vote enough?

[Robocopter87]

Vote enough?

Huh?

Why did I say vote enough? Because of this.
This Elli's by the way.
ISO#1
Random vote on Ani, alright thats fine.
ISO#5
Vote on Vas.
ISO#16
Vote on Dram
ISO#17
Vote on Robo

Thats five votes so far. In 17 posts. Then I said Vote enough and you are asking why Badger?
Heres the amount of votes placed down so far.
Ellibereth-5
Animorph-3
Dram-1
(Let me take a moment to also help explain my vote, 3 posts from Dram, 1 is a bandwagon another is an EBWOP and the last is a confirmation that Dram is A-O-Good with an Ani lynch. Just saying. Thats probably hypocrtical but he knew that the game had started and that is why I placed my vote on him.)
Badger-1
Farside-2
Llamafluff-3
Omnino-0
Tony Montana-1 Whats with the only one post?
Vasude-1
Vi-3

With that being said I think you see why I said "vote enough". I think it was called for and legit in all ways. So what have I done scummy to get Elli's and Vi's vote? Huh?

[Robocopter87]

Your first post in this game was all kinds of forced, lol.

I dont understand. What do you mean, forced? I thought Dram was scum and voted for him. I don't see this forced thing.

[Robocopter87]

Sorry Guys I totally forgot about this game and I'm sorry.

Apology, neither necessary nor endearing but apparently had to be put in

Sorry for explaining that I did not know this game was in progress and was why I had not posted.

vote:Dramonic

.
I extremly dislike his jump on Ani it wasn't right and his eagerness to lynch him really rubs me the wrong way.

Ignoring the run-on sentence, here's a jump onto a popular wagon on the basis of "his jump on ani wasn't right" (whatever that means)

This is what it means,

@ani - Current thoughts on color claim?
@VV - Why no comment on the condition claim?
@dram - Would you be ok with an ani lynch?

absolutely.

and "his eagerness to lynch him really rubs me the wrong way" (as opposed to me saying the same thing except more vehemently and more often?)

You are saying that the quote I just posted doesn't make you suspicious?

.

Also, Many colors in beginning make big migraine.

fluff, but at least it makes the post look bigger

I warn you now, I like to joke

---

And what drives it home is that that middle section is literally all of the useful content you have posted thus far.

Well if you wouldn't have ignored my apologies you would know why i haven't posted any more content.

Also, looking across the board (in a five-second search) your posting style in this game is definitely different from your other games.

How so?

Answers in red.

[Robocopter87]

The amount of votes mean nothing. I'm just completely confused about why Vi would see what I said about Dram as town. He jumped on a popular wagon without adding anything to the discussion and then decided that he was perfectly comfortable with lynching Ani. How is that town?

So because of the bandwagonning I voted Dram in my first post. Then Elli says it was forced. I said "vote enough" because Elli was constantly switching votes. I don't see it as a scumtell but Elli should try sticking to a suspicion instead of switching around.

[Robocopter87]

Oh I dunno, maybe the fact that that one post included a vla notice aCould give a clue.

Oops, sorry.

robowhat? I don't understand the point of this post at all.

Everyone seemed to want to know why I said vote enough. So I stated why I said it. And compared it to the amount of votes everyone else had. I wasn't saying I was suspicious or anything but why I said it. That is all, yet people are blowing it out of proportion.

[Robocopter87]

Newbie 884 is most defintly not a game to look at. I was very scumlike and bad. Newbie 913 or 926. 884 was my first and worst game as town. I think I have improved in the previously stated games. The games I posted right here are not over but I was already killed as Doc in 926 and townie in 913. I would prefer if you based my meta off these games please.

[Robocopter87]

@Robo: I would like to see a list of who you think is scum and why.

I really don't have a list but I do think that Dram is scum.
Working on his partner and half of me says OMGUS and say its Elli or Vi but the other half keeps me in line and knows thats probably not right.

[Robocopter87]

I thought that the vote on me from Elli was totally uncalled for. The only reason the vote was placed because it felt forced. I still have no idea what that is supposed to mean. And I already have explained the "Vote enough" for the umpteenth time.

But if you guys feel like a good kickoff to get this game going is by lynching me then do you want a claim? With colors?

But I don't think colors are very smart to claim. But I will claim if necessary and if its wanted.

[Robocopter87]

Hey Robocopter.
*Could you link to Newbie 926? I totally don't see it in tR2R.
*Why are you underproducing in this game?
*Could you link to a game where you were Mafia?

*Newbie 926
*I think its because I have absolutely no idea where to start. In the beginning of the thread I felt really lost because it was hard to understand what I should be doing. So i went off the old "If they act like scum they usually are" and voted dram because of his bandwagoning. I really don't see anything else that says, "Im scum."
*Can't seem to find it! I'll post it in a seperate post when I find it.

[Robocopter87]

Robo:
He's displayed a nice IIoA catchup post, which is quite scummy. ISO 7 is freaking hilarious considering he wants to direct us away from some of his games.

A

Nice

cathcup post but yet it is still

scummy?

Contradiction.

ISO 7 was just a warning saying that I do not play like that anymore. I changed my playstyle once I realized the playstyle in Newbie 884 completly sucked.

[Robocopter87]

Everyone says I do IIoA. Its because I am bad at explaining my reasons and post the basis off them and don't point out how I connected the dots. It is the fatal flaw in my playstyle.

But I never understood how it is a scum tell.. Information brings out facts. and facts are solid conrcete evidence. Analysis are good, but can be flawed and biased. So why is Info so bad?

[Robocopter87]

Thats true.

I guess you need Information

And

analysis.

Fact for a basis and Analysis to find a deeper meaning.

[Robocopter87]

Yes, I expect Robo to flip scum.

Robo, I'd like you to claim please. I asked you to do it before. Consider my vote a hovering L-1 for you. I'm just not putting it down, because I don't want you hammered before you claim.

Alright,
I am a regular Robot Unicorn.

I don't think claiming colors is very smart.

[Robocopter87]

Robocopter - Is dramonic still scum?

Seacore - Why did you ask Robocopter to prematurely claim?

I do think Dramonic is still scum.

Also Seacore explained he did not want me to get hammered before I got a chance to claim. I should be at L-1 soon.

[Robocopter87]

Unvote, see:Seacore

This isn't OMGUS. I got a reason.

Seacore votes me saying that "I reacted bad and Dram meta says lurking is OK for him"

You are using Meta incorrectly. Yes he may be a regular lurker but that doesn't mean he isn't scum. I did not vote Dramonic because of his lurking. Which is why your defense for him is invalid. I voted him for bandwagonning. But you are bandwagonning to a greater extent. You just put me at L-1 with a reason that was not even backed up and just jumped on the popular lynch. If I am lynched I would like everyone too look into the people that have voted me by way of badwagonning. Day One is the time that scum interacts the most. I extremly dislike the way Seacore just voted me. And to add on he put me at

L-1

. I understand that any scum could have claimed Regular Vanilla Unicorn but I did not lie. (Like people will believe that last sentence...)

[Robocopter87]

My question to Robo is how can you post like this in one game here But you find it difficult to post an analysis in this game?

I replaced into that game. It was a Newbie game. I knew exactly what I was doing. I was commenting on the whole game so far. I willl and am not going to talk about the game itself.
I understood my position and what I was supposed to do. This is a little more difficult. Do you want me to go through this whole game with a notepad?

[Robocopter87]

It's more fun to hammer.

Not cool.

Very scummy.

[Robocopter87]

@Farside
The only problem with going through with a notepad is that I'll be called out for IIoA and it will all go to dirt. The fatal flaw with my playstyle is my inability to explain why I think A certain way. Which really isn't good for Mafia but I try. I point out the the basis of my reasons by showing where I got them and can't really explain why I think its scummy.

[Robocopter87]

@Farside
The only problem with going through with a notepad is that I'll be called out for IIoA and it will all go to dirt. The fatal flaw with my playstyle is my inability to explain why I think A certain way. Which really isn't good for Mafia but I try. I point out the the basis of my reasons by showing where I got them and can't really explain why I think its scummy.

Just do the write up and stop making excuses. Your excuses don't matter to me. I just want to see if you can write something on and put a basis on who, what and why.

Your wish is my command. I shall do it.

[Robocopter87]

Heres the promised post. I ISO'd Dramonic and this is what I got. Then Seacore. Meaning, both my votes.

ISO#0
First post of the game. He votes Ani, putting him at L-2 in his first post! This is the bandwagonning I was talking about. And, to make it look bigger he adds needless fluff.
Very scummy.

ISO#2
LLama asks Dramonic if he is OK with an Ani lynch. Dramonic replies, "Absolutely". I extremly dislike it because Dram only voted Ani by Randomly Bandwagonning Without reason and put Ani at L-2.
Very scummy

ISO#3
By now i've voted and caused quite a bit of chaos. He unvotes. He was V/LA most of the game so far and the lurking yet modding really doesn't bug me at all. I understood that and do not hold it against him.
Null

ISO#8
Posts a big content post. Calls me out for IIoA which , I guess reluctantly, my post was.
Townie read.

The rest is just a bunch of small posts that are defenses against him saying, "Don't mind being the Hammer" I dislike it a lot but I think he had reasons, but they were vague.
Slight scum

In the beginning he did a lot of scummy stuff and since then he seems to improved. I changed my vote to Seacore once I realized Dram was improving. I think he should of replaced when he realized he wasn't going to be able to post very much. Then Seacore replaced in. I will show why my vote is on him.

First two post,
Needless fluff before PM I disliked it but ignored it.
Nulllllllllll

Third post,
He basically puts down a few reads on some people and suddenly decides he wants to vote me. he posts three reasons, 1) I did a bunch of stuff already mentioned[I thought these we his reasons?] 2) Hes not helping us [Well I reluctantly agree with that but still it isn't very solid] 3) He believes he'll get Information off my lynch?[Because...? Seriously, what Info will you gain by lynching me? You'll learn that I didn't lie about my claim or that I'm town or scum? We already sorta figured that out.]
He says he resists voting for me and wants a claim before I get hammered.
scum tell

I agreed I should claim becuase it looked pretty hopeless and I thought once I was at l-1 someone

would

hammer.

Next few posts,
Very small fluffy posts.
scum tell.

ISO#8
Says I'm gonna flip scum, asks for a claim.
Null, slight scum.

ISO#9
This is how I basically intrepreted this post,
"Day one is usually a shot in the dark, Dram is not scum because he is lurking, Robo fake claimed, Vote robo."
Day one does not have to be a shot in the dark and can very well be informed. Day One is what you make it, And you are making it a very fast and uninformed lynch. The dram thing I already explained. Says I fake claimed Vanilla, Liable but wrong. Little too opurtunistic.

Next few posts just fluff.

ISO#13
Says I'm scum because this is hard to understand. I think that this game i hard to understand, he says it right in his post that someone has a wierd win condition involving colors. The next thing he says was needless, he says that either I am scum, third party, or lying about my claim meaning Scum or third party. This is enitrely needless and irritating. If I fake claimed then no duh I'm scum or third party. You make no attempt wether to figure out wether I did fake claim or not. You immediatly assume that I Fake claimed. what are your reasons for saying I fake claimed?

ISO#14
States why everyone is complaining about him riding off other suspicions. What he says is, Other people got there first. He has mentioned his opinions, he has not. He hasn't stated

good valid

reasons why I am scum. Says we have struck scum.


So what I get out of this guy is that he thinks I'm scum because of what everyone else said. Absolute Genious reasons[/sarcasm]

I think my vote is well placed.

[Robocopter87]

I really don't know what I'm looking for. I understand there is some form of scum and how to scumhunt but what can I consider scummy other than the usualy scumtells, because this is a theme game speculation will take place and I don't know how to go about this speculation.

[Robocopter87]

^^^^Answer to badger.

[Robocopter87]

I think that EB means that I'm not acting like I act in most of my games. But I want to know if EB meant that in a good or bad way.

[Robocopter87]

@robo - What are your views on lynching VT claims?

I have thought about this before. I think that claiming really sucks.

Why?

Because when you are a powerole people usually back off and make discussion on wether or not you fake claimed. Meaning, you get a chance to survive.

If you are Mafia, then you obviously can fakeclaim, usually as I will mention below, they fake claim vanilla or a powerole which then that puts them at option number one.

If you are a regular vanilla Townie(Like Me) then when you claim then there is a chance you are Mafia. Most of the Town has already decided you are scummy which is why the VT claimed in the first place. So basically you are already gonna be lynched. So most people got no chance claiming VT. Majority of most games are just regular Vt's so I dislike the odds of surviving a VT claim. Also, most people aren't lying when they claim VT. like me..

[Robocopter87]

Glad you're glad that you want to kill a claimed VT. Which I am, a VT. So please, don't waste your or my or anyone elses time by lynching me. Lets try hammering scum instead of hammering Vt's. Can we do that? Or is that too hard?

[Robocopter87]

@robo - What are your views on lynching VT claims?

I have thought about this before. I think that claiming really sucks.

Why?

Because when you are a powerole people usually back off and make discussion on wether or not you fake claimed. Meaning, you get a chance to survive.

If you are Mafia, then you obviously can fakeclaim, usually as I will mention below, they fake claim vanilla or a powerole which then that puts them at option number one.

If you are a regular vanilla Townie(Like Me) then when you claim then there is a chance you are Mafia. Most of the Town has already decided you are scummy which is why the VT claimed in the first place. So basically you are already gonna be lynched. So most people got no chance claiming VT. Majority of most games are just regular Vt's so I dislike the odds of surviving a VT claim. Also, most people aren't lying when they claim VT. like me..

Vt claims are the very definition of worthless Robo.

Tell me something I

Don't

know.

I'm telling you, Dram, don't do it. Just don't. Don't kill me.

WIFOM makes the world go round' [/joke]

[Robocopter87]

Sorry people I've been inactive for bout a day or two. It wasn't just this game.

I really don't understand the BIG point on me by Elli. iIt just showed my recent posts.

Robocopter: Have you ever played a mini theme or a theme game before here at MS?

Not a theme game, no. Thats why I feel its hard to understand and comprehend.

I like this, It's a good point against robo, and EB's actually doing the opposite of it as well. He's clearing up general doubt. Scum, even scum bussing, wouldn't want to remind everybody that Elli didn't do anything scummy.

Please stop stealing cases and using them for yourself as a Get-Out-Of-Jail card. You jut copied otherpeople and voted for me.

[Robocopter87]

I really wasn't able to post if I wanted too. I didn't know ahead of time so I couldn't tell the Mod or you people. I'm sorry I wasn't able to post. Going to post my case on seacore next post. Hold me to it.

[Robocopter87]

Case on Seacore, little late but I just get yelled at for saying sorry usually so I won't.

ISO#2
After his first two posts which were just fluff, he comes right out and says,

At the moment, I like Robo for the kill. I haven't seen anybody really defend him, and I find that interesting, but that won't tell me much until he flips.

It might've looked like an OMGUS from me but OMGUS is when I vote for someone who

has

a case on me not when he decides everyone is liking my lynch so might as well kill me.

ISO#3

So, in summary, I want to vote for Robo.

1) He's scummy as hell for reasons already mentioned
2) He's not helping us (so at worst we lose unhelpful town)
3) I believe significant information will come from his lynch, regardless of the flip.

1)He stole everyone elses case.
2)I agree I wasn't helping that is on okay reason.
3)In ISO number 2 he said that no one really defended me but he says A lot of Info is going to come from my flip? If I was to flip town like I will, what info would that bring?

ISO#9
Votes me after I claimed town....
AND he defends Dram. He says that it is normal for Dram to not submit posts for our cause.

ISO#10
Once everyone jumped on Seacore for the above, he said in this post that they shouldn't ignore his actions. Backpeddling, Scummy.

ISO#14
Says that everyone got there first to putting a case on me. Then says that he actually has posted content on me. Then states he has struck scum. If

he

didn't make any cases how could

he

have struck scum. And wouldn't it be

we

if he was town? Hm?

ISO#20
Though he devoted all his posts to voting me he votes EB because everyone else was.

ISO#21
Changes his mind and goes back to me. More backpeddling

ISO#22
Says his case on me which was, I was dodgy. Wait wut? Claimed VT, thats a town role if I'm not mistaken. When people realized I wasn't lying and backed off I went into lurk mode. Sorry I have a life and can't sit here all day.

ISO#23
He posts EB's case in quotes and says, "I like this". Then when I call him out on stealing peoples cases when he himself said he did (See ISO#14) he doesn't respond.... and changes the subject...

Thats my promised post on my case. I tried to do Fact

with

analysis instead of IIoA.

[Robocopter87]

Robocopter is starting to go from "too scummy to be scum" to "too scummy to be too scummy to be scum".

I thought I was getting a tad bit better but if you say so...

[Robocopter87]

@RC - If you vote TM for self-preservation I wont hold it against you

I would rather have a eacore lynch and this looks a tad scummy. But it is tempting. But I really don't think you got much on TM besides Lurking and a Meta thats very rusty.

I don't want self preservation. I don't win when I survive I win when All the scum are gone.

[Robocopter87]

No one seems to be seeing why I think Seacore is scum. Gah...

unvote

[Robocopter87]

@Seacore

Also,

RC could have just hammered. But he didn't.
The choice is clearly, at this stage between himself and EB.

If RC was town, he knows that he's town (although he's apparently confused about being a VT, so maybe not) so if the choice is between confirmed town and EB he should know where to drop the hammer. but he didn't.

Alternatively, if RC is scum, he's hoping somebody else drops that hammer, because he's clearly newbie scum and is worried about how that will look.

Summary: Town would know hammer is the best town option, scum have a guilty conscious. RC did not hammer.

Conclussion: RC is scum.

....

....

WTF!!!

I have nothing on EB, I have no case, no claim from EB and haven't given him a chance to speak. Why the heck does that mean I should hammer him? Stop trying to force scummy stuff into my actions. I have no right to hammer EB. And I won't.

I would hammer you on the other hand but everyone seems to be just ignoring your actions.

[Robocopter87]

EB is not lying. No scum could make a role up like that. It is kinda out there but it still makes sense.

If you guys lynch me, remember how untowny like seacore was and the way he acted towards me.

Seacore and Vi wanted a flavour claim?

Robot Unicorn, or Vanilla townie in regular Mafia terms. Or in Layman's terms, a good guy with pretty colors.



Also, Vas, that last post was just dumb. No offense but why the heck do you think that some random Aniwagon will form? Seriously.

@Socrates
Howdy! I'm the popular lynch. You want appetizers or you ready to go?[/joke, people need to learn some humor]

[Robocopter87]

Oh, and

I'll get around to responding to that case when I can, in the mean time

Right after I'm dead and you get a to nightkill EB? Well, whatever works for you

[Robocopter87]

I see, you are OK with killing me but dislike the members of the bandwagon? So that means you vote an enitrely random other person. Great logic.

[Robocopter87]

Whoa sudden Bandwagon. I'm in.

[Robocopter87]

vote:Ani

[Robocopter87]

Ya you are a little late seacore.

also,

Ani L-3 if Vi wasn't lying

[Robocopter87]

I'll admit Robo is looking more town...

Backpeddle much? From your first post to now you have been pushing my lynch with faulty reasoning and reasoning that isn't even considered reasoning. And now your saying that I'm starting to look more town when you get a little bit of heat? Scum bells are dinging.

[Robocopter87]

But Farside made a case on you. I consider that a

little

bit of heat. Ani hasn't done anything yet which is why we are almost lynching him.

Also, i think VV "policy lycnh" is about Lynching Ani for lurking, it is pretty policy.

[Robocopter87]

We have gone through three L-1's. Can we just decide on someone before we get a no lynch? Seriously, a no lynch will really hurt us. The scum is soon going to know who all the townie poweroles are and we are just going to be picked off one at a time. I say just kill Ani before something stupid happens.

[Robocopter87]

I say they will know all the PRs because we keep having claims.

[Robocopter87]

Seacore is still scum!!!!

If you people even dare say I got no reasons I will --- (Cut out due to intense violence and gore).

I do

not

mean that I am regretting Anis lynch. It was a good decision. But I do say that Seacore is scum.

[Robocopter87]

I think Vi revived EB.

But if not then,

[Robocopter87]

If EB was poisned. Who was the NK?

I mean, having a powerole that could depoison someone and the "Mafia" only poisoned wouldn't make much sense. If in fact there is A posioning SK then what did the Mafia do?

[Robocopter87]

see seacore

Wagon GO!

@EB Also, What do you mean the NK was obvious? Vi claims that someoned poisoned Badger most likely, If that is the case then who did they kill. Who they poisioned is completly obvious. But the NK?

Heres what I saw.

Badger loses color, Posiony type thing.

Vi Says, "POSION BEGONE!" and it is.

Badger lives.


What my point is, if the Mafia's ability is to posion people, and Vi can unposion people, the Mafia is useless.

But, if the poisoining came from an unknown source which Llama says the Mafia knows not who it is, then what did the Mafia do?

Do you people understand what I'm saying? What answer I'm looking for is actually a number of questions, what did the Mafia do? Who is the unknown Third party member? and most importantly, Who is scum?

[Robocopter87]

EB, you just asked what makes us vote seacore and then ISO'd him. I read the ISO you made and and most all of the ISO's were our scum points and then your analysis for a few were

exactly

why we are voting him.

[Robocopter87]

I thought you meant what makes the people who are voting seacore vote seacore. Misintrepretation, carry on.

[Robocopter87]

And at least one of : SOC/SEACORE is scum.

I think that it is pretty obvious who we think that is.

[Robocopter87]

Its an idea.

How bout we vote on it?

If the majority of us says yes, than we do it. and the people who refuse to claim if we do decide to do it will be lynched accordingly after we give them some time to respond. I know this sounds pretty oppurtunistic for the people who already claim like me. But I think this might work but ask the town for approval.

vote massclaim

thats one out of a needed six.

Mod, this doesn't interfere with our votes, please, I know you are smart enoguh to already know that and are like, "What U think Im dumb?" but better safe than sorry.

[Robocopter87]

Idea, meaning vote count.

[Robocopter87]

EBWOP, my bad, that was dumb, Idea meaning massclaim.

[Robocopter87]

I don't think it's a bad idea, especially since only Robocopter has fullclaimed.

U gotta vote massclaim then man. We wanna keep track of the people for it and against it so we can use it as evidence in the future.

[Robocopter87]

What exactly does a Robot Princess do?

[Robocopter87]

Whats with you and wanting claimed townie role lynches? You really need to learn what the word town and the word teammate mean. But I doubt you're either for me.

[Robocopter87]

Alright, I know that Claiming town doesn't make you town, but trying to get a beloved princess kill

with no reasons

isn't cool.

I don't get why the heck a beloved princess would be pro massclaim. I'm starting to think the massclaim was a bad idea. But thats in hindsight, I think it was a good idea to see who was pro and against which is helping the Hp case. I want to vote HP though I think Seacore is still the scummiest. But First I will give Hp a chance to talk.

[Robocopter87]

Scum,
please claim.

PLEAASSSEEE
We use biodegradable rope so lynching is good for the enviroment. So step right up!

[Robocopter87]

^^^was a joke.

[Robocopter87]

^^^I bet you a dollar he says no.

[Robocopter87]

Wow.. great play Seacore...
Lurk then jump on a wagon you haven't pushed to go. Love the style.

unsee, see seacore

Alright with a Soc wagon to?
Just because he was called your partner in crime?
Wow, your on a roll.

[Robocopter87]

Sea, why should I think you are town?
I have made my case on you a long time a ago. And I could very much add on to it.
I know why I think you are scum. You just haven't contradicted it. Give me a few good reasons why you are town, and a few more on why you would like a Soc wagon better?

[Robocopter87]

Alright, Hp.
Can you

please

post all the abilities of your role. Don't quote your PM just tell us what it does. Do you have any other strings attached?

[Robocopter87]

Farside-
I know my colors, they were told to me.
I can tell you how many and what they are if that is ever needed for whatever reason. But I doubt the actual claim of colors should not be done.
But telling you how many is understandable if you want me to counterclaim the amount to a claimed VTCorn. Lol, Vtcorn

[Robocopter87]

So Farside just

forgot

about the role pm on the first page?

[Robocopter87]

I still think Seacore is scum, and I think people generally forgiving his slips and hypocrisies is another sign that we've found scum.

[Robocopter87]

Sorry I don't follow.
Can you rephrase that?

[Robocopter87]

Darn I made a decent sized post, and the internet died and it went away.
Basically, it said,
Dramonic was on Ani day one. Jumped on VV near end, but was pretty much on Ani all day one, so thats wrong.
I was not just stating facts, I siad a few negative opinions on Dram but besides that, that was all it said.

[Robocopter87]

I want Seacore lynch.

[Robocopter87]

Alright, I know what to do.
We got incoming deadline,
So we got to lynch someone or no lynch.
No lynch is just stupid.
So we have to lynch someone.
I think we lynch Seacore.
I want everyone to say who they want dead. No big fancy opinion. Just a name.
Please.

[Robocopter87]

Heres my list so far on who thinks who is scum,
Robocopter: Seacore
Llamafluff: Socrates
I NEED MORE PEOPLE!
I need facts on who thought what. Before a death before a NK before deadline. I need it.

[Robocopter87]

Robocopter's posts Today scream newbscum (fluffposts like this; rolling with every accusation anyone made but sticking to a Seacore vote; great immediate reaction to the EB heal; parroting previously made points). Maybe we have it wrong?

Hey I'm willing to give up my colorful metallic unicorn body for the purpose of letting the town to win. That is my win condition, to get rid of the evil among us. But because there would be to much WIFOM I don't think we ough do that. Deciding to kill a claimed VT for deadline purposes seems to wild, I doubt any info would come of it.

I guess Llama is right, I sorta coulda looked at the vote count. I feel like an idiot now.

[Robocopter87]

You know what! Screw it!
Lets Massclaim.
We already have had half the town claim their role.

[Robocopter87]

Or half the

scum

...

[Robocopter87]

I know.
Just doing it scientifically!
Recording the actual presence of a mass claim hpugh its basically already in effect.

Am I really the only VT is this only thing? C'mon man.

[Robocopter87]

What if you flip town?

I go into denial and self vote[/sarcasm]

I move on! I keep looking for scum like any normal person. I did the same thing you did here once. Someone thought I was scum so much he would let the town lynch him if I wasn't scum. I flipped town and everyone ignored our fight. I posted it in a Bah post. The guy ended up being scum. He was Rayfrost. Game is over. Scum won I think, I was hammered by my own brother. Jerk.

[Robocopter87]

Rayfrost isn't my brother. Kunkstar7 is. Rayfrost had his vote on me a long time before hammer. I can hunt down the link if you'd like.

[Robocopter87]

Why don't you just tell me who your scumpartner is so I can know for sure?

[Robocopter87]

On the topic of Seacore,
When something is bothering me I just Ignore it and walk away.

Allow me to demonstrate!

[Robocopter87]

Maybe Reap hasn't picked up his Pm or doesn't know he got the job!

[Robocopter87]

I think we should lynch one of DRAM or ROBO (i.e. vanilla claims that aren't me) today.

I could say the same about you.
But, I don't want to.
I won't argue over it due to WIFOM but I wil say I am just a VT, you can call me VI too but I am just VT.
I want to know why there was two posionings. Maybe a Doc typecorn was protecting night one?

[Robocopter87]

I want Seacore lynch but apparently Dram needs dying.

THIS IS L-1

vote: Dram

[Robocopter87]

unvote

[Robocopter87]

Please
a) Say why I still deserve to be lynched
b) Say why you voted for Dram despite wanting me to be lynched

a)
Well, I just really find it hard to believe that your makes sure people aren't "Jealous Princelings". I mean seriously? Jealous Princelings? Sorry for the laziness but who said that most role names started with, Robot? You could easily come up with that. I mean, if your scum, you know whos Town or part of the town faction. So it would be easy to say, Ohhh, hes not a Jealous Princeling when there is no such thing as Jealous Princeling. Making it a "Safe Claim".

b)Im not. See the Unvote. I decided I had no right to be voting him.

[Robocopter87]

"I'm voting for Seacore because I don't believe his claim"
and
"I no longer think I should vote for Dram, because I'm not sure he's scum"

Your twisting my words.
The second one not so much but the first one was trying to demote the possibility that you could have fakeclaimed. Completly ignoring what I said and saying I don't believe your claim. So what is your

real defense

to my attack? Cuz I think I made a point on the Jealous Princelings.

[Robocopter87]

I know I'm a VT and I already claimed VT so Seacore coulda just made up his Jealous Princeling Cop thing. I really don't know why no one else has questioned it. Seacore could just be investigating all the claimed townies and if hes scum he knows there townie or possible third party but mostly townie so it would be easy to fake.

He still hasn't made a valid defense. Just keeps repeating, "He isn't doing nothing" But now that I respond with a point against you you have a problem with it.

Your also making me the enemy. Trying to make people think that

Robo's response in Day 2 was pretty much "I don't talk to people who don't like me"

I do not recall that happening.

I thought I'd try and encourage him to be more helpful. His resistance to this is one of several factors on the scumdar ping.

Since when am I being resitant? And what have you been doing thats so helpful?

Particularly since it seems I'm about to leave this world.

O I pity you I pity you I pity you.[/sarcasm]
You think if I voted you it would go faster?

vote seacore

[Robocopter87]

So your scum? Because you are lurking?

[Robocopter87]

Do you peeps want me to drop the bomb?

unvote

[Robocopter87]

Here Vi.
You unvote, I vote, then you hammer. If you really want the blood on your hands, or we can just do it simply and let me kill him.

[Robocopter87]

Sorry had appendix taken out.
Will read the thread and post soon.

[Robocopter87]

Welcom Charlie.
You said thst Seacore and Eb were linked.
Now you saing that Eb is a Jealous Princeling. Don't trip overyourself here.

[Robocopter87]

How bout we focus on what we know instead of what we don't know.
Lets list some facts.
Anybody willing to oblige?

[Robocopter87]

Hey the WC posted on the first page says that they need three points of each color(Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple)
This is the amount of colors that have flipped,
Red(1) Orange(4) Yellow(2) Green(2) Blue(2) Purple(1)

They are still looking for 2 reds, 1 yellow, 1 green, 1 blue and 2 purples.
On average, people have flipped three colors. They need 7 more so about three people need to die with the right colors so possibly 4 people will die for them to win.

Sooooooooo something needs to be drawn from this info.

[Robocopter87]

I know lots of facts. Any in particular you're looking for?

Well, I confess that, Im completly clueless on whats happening.

So I decided that since I knew that I couldn't figure anything out. I ought just focus on what I/We akready know. I like how Llama listed the wagons. So if you feel that you know something simple yet important and have a slight gut feeling its going to help with scumhunting.

Just occurred to me - 3 more deaths being potentially a loss assumes all three have colors.

I think I pointed that out.

Please... no way mafia has color win condition. Do you really think that the mod would let a single mafia endgame up to 5 people?

Sample PM? The only problem is that it doesn't give a possible role with the win condition...

Not to sound rude, but could you please try to be more helpful?

Its not rude, its the truth.
I admit I haven't given this game as much as I could. But I'm working on it. I'm a little clueless. Also, I find it funny how many PRs are in this game yet I end up being a VT.

[Robocopter87]

Hey Robocopter87! ElectricBadger @ L-1, are you coming to hammer 'em for scum victory?

Hm?

There's a difference between clueless and stupid. I seem to have a problem with people trying to take advantage of me because they think I'm stupid lately.

Really, I was reading the thread and I came upon that post and was like, Really? C'mon Charlie you coulda done a little better than that.

But taking it seriously, no I will not hammer EB. And if I did hammer him the scum victory wouldn't be a win for me. Quite the opposite due to being town.

[Robocopter87]

And I wouldn't be a hammer I'm pretty sure. He's not even at L-1.

[Robocopter87]

Maybe its because Elli is kinda flaking and really hasn't done much. Sometimes I forget hes in the game. But he posts before prods. Even I do more than him in this game, and that's sayin somthin.

[Robocopter87]

No I'm pretty sure its MyLo.

[Robocopter87]

Because I'm town. Duh.

[Robocopter87]

Vi

IS

solid Town right? He did use his ability in front of everyone.
I think I'm going to do a big post on something but it make take me a while to gather the Info. So give me sometime, I don't kknow if i'll be able to do it right now but I will do it if there isn't a death first.

[Robocopter87]

Lynches:

Ani

Lynch wagon:

Vas

, llama, Vi, Robo, Soc,

Seacore

, farside

Soc

Lynch: Eli, Vi,

Sea

, hp, farside, llama

dram

Lynch: Eli, llama,

sea

, farside, EB, Vi

L-# Wagons:
Badger L-1 wagon: Vi, farside, llama, Eli,

Vas

, hp
Robo L-1 wagon:

Tony/Soc

,

Seacore

, Badger,

dram

,

llama

, vi
Robo L-1 wagon: Eli, Badger, Llama, farside,

tony,

seacore

Ani L-2 wagon: Eli,

dram

, farside, llama, vi
hp L-1 wagon: Eli,

Soc, VV

, EB

VV

L-1: hp,

sea, dram

, Vi, llama

sea

L-1: farside, RC, EB,

VV

, llama


Obviously, Green is Town
Red is scum OR third party, its undecided for them.

I only colorcoded what we know FOR SURE instead of what I think. I've been trying to gather stuff the we know FOR SURE instead of all these speculation posts that hvae been going on. I felt so clueless but not so much anymore with all the info I gathered.

Anyway, i want some opinions on what this data recorded here actually means. What people feel they get from this.

Thanks to Llama for providing the wagons and lynches. It wasn't a big post as much as a post that took some time to gather everything for.

[Robocopter87]

If theres anything qrong with it please tell.

[Robocopter87]

*Wrong

[Robocopter87]

Sorry I just copied Llama's post of wagons and lynches. But I will take the blame.

What clues have I gathered?
Well, okay, I admit I'm still working on the actual clues that can be drawn from this stuff.

But, thats why I asked for peoples opinions.

[Robocopter87]

I'm about to hammer Elli.
Any objections?

I give anybody one day to speak then i'm going to lay the hammer down.

[Robocopter87]

Screw the waiting, Farside is right, scum would have hammered a long time ago.

vote Elli

So Elli What were ya?

[Robocopter87]

I was going to say about the same thing to EB,
You act like your not involved with the towns decision. With the "You Guys" thing.

[Robocopter87]

Ugh, we lost!
Well, that was a very fun game. Though most of the timei had no idea how to go about scumhunting. Well, Kudos to Badger for not dying. Most everyone was calling him scum.

Another town loss for me...

[Robocopter87]

I dunno...
Thats a good question...

[Robocopter87]

That just means that Vi makes scum nervous. Nervous scum makes scumslips and scumslips make town wins. But we missed the very last part lol