Mini 953: Star Control: Alliance Initiative (Over)

[bouncy.bouncy]

/confirm

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I didn't even know Star Control was a real game. Am I screwed?

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What the hell is a hydra?

And I don't see the big deal about asking Zito about clearing Plum. Rolefishing isn't going to help scum that much more after he's already come out with his information.

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 7

Dry-fit

- 2 - Gammagooey, Porkens - (L-5)

Gammagooey

- 1 - Riceballtail - (L-6)

Kast

- 1 - Dry-fit - (L-6)

Papa Zito

- 2 - CF Riot, cruelty - (L-5)

Plum

- 1 - Merkabah - (L-6)

Porkens

- 1 - Plum - (L-6)

Riceballtail

- 1 - animorpherv1 - (L-6)

Players not voting: bouncy.bouncy, Kast, Papa Zito

bouncy's ignored both the questions and my first vote on him (even though it was random) and needs to say why.

I wasn't extremely excited to answer the questions, and I figured you were asking them to pull us out of random voting, so I thought you'd be satisfied with the number of answers you'd gotten by the time I read your post. Do you still want me to answer those questions?

I "ignored" your vote by default. I don't see any reason to respond to it. Why do I have to respond to random votes on me but not to random votes on everybody else?

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@bouncy-The only question I still care about is why you chose not to random vote.

Alright. I never random vote because I think it's unnecessary. I was introduced to mafia on a different website and there we always began D1 by discussing town strategy for the game, and that usually led to some real votes. Coming here and seeing RVS, I just lurk until people turn out scummy based on something other than random votes.

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Coming here and seeing RVS, I just lurk until people turn out scummy based on something other than random votes.

So I take it you don't have any suspicions yet?

Right.

I don't really agree with Kast getting called out for asking Zito about his Plum connection, but I think the people who did that are just misapplying tells and not trying to frame Kast.

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People's reasons for voting RBT seem weak. This wagon happened too fast. However, I agree that his claims don't seem to be made by somebody with a smart town mind.

If RBT is town, maybe GG is a townie with a different race than him and that's why he thought GG was third party?

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People's reasons for voting RBT seem weak.

How do you feel about his claim?

As I tried to state before, the circumstances and method of his claim are somewhat alarming to me. It seemed unnecessary at the time and scattered.

But I'm not condemning him just for that, and it also seems like my role info confirms some of his claim. I'd like to see an extended claim from him before making assumptions, though.

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RBT, are you sure you're actually bulletproof? Or can you just survive in space?

vote: gammagooey

for this:

And apparently I'M THIRD-PARTY, Why would I even neeeeeed to scumhunt if you aren't pulling that out of your ass.

I would never expect a townie to talk like this, since the third-party talk hasn't been around for a a few pages.

And the hypothetical isn't really valid logically, anyways. Whether you need to scumhunt or not, we (including RBT) will always expect you to scumhunt.

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Well thanks for letting him answer me, you meanies

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Alright, so I was suspicious about Gamma's action claim at first. But I think I figured it out... let me get this straight. You had 0 energy, but you got your new power before the night started, and it was (P), so you used your track/watch (A) power during the night for 0 energy instead of its previous cost of 1 energy?

So Gamma, Porkens, Plum, and cruelty's night actions are all confirmed. Does that mean we can confirm them as town? I'm finding it a little hard to hold this all together and figure it out myself.

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@Bouncy-
-Why are you trying to guess how Gamma's investigative power works?
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-Cruelty confirmed that Gamma has an investigative power. That's good enough for me and there's almost no reason town would need to know more than that.

Uhhh I'm not trying to figure out his investigative power works........... He had 0 energy last night, yet he somehow used an investigative power. Didn't that investigative power cost energy? When I first saw that, I got more suspicious of him than I was yesterday. Then I came up with a possible explanation and would like him to confirm it so that I'm not suspicious anymore.

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What team are you on, ani?

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I'm lost with the whole Name Concept.

Hierarchy are good guys. Alliance and ??? are bad guys.

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

cruelty

- 2 - Dry-fit, Merkabah - (L-4)

Dry-fit

- 4 - Plum, Gammagooey, CF Riot, cruelty - (L-2)

Players not voting: animorpherv1, bouncy.bouncy, Kast, Papa Zito, Porkens

So Gamma, Porkens, Plum, and cruelty's night actions are all confirmed. Does that mean we can confirm them as town? I'm finding it a little hard to hold this all together and figure it out myself

What's so hard to figure out about it?

There are 4 people with different intertwined actions.

Call me lazy, if you must. Kast's post helped, though. I later went through the facts on my own and I realized how little information it actually gives about alignment. Plum is confirmed in my mind but for now I can only give the benefit of the doubt to the other three.

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Wait, so the scum DID try to kill me? And cruelty saved me?

Where did this come from? Is yours the other ship that was destroyed? And yeah, I read the responses to this but I still don't get it.

I understand that cruelty protected you, but what made you suddenly think that he blocked an attack?

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Wait, so the scum DID try to kill me? And cruelty saved me?

Where did this come from?

Is yours the other ship that was destroyed?

And yeah, I read the responses to this but I still don't get it.

I understand that cruelty protected you, but what made you suddenly think that he blocked an attack?

thus marking the second time you've requested information that you (as town) don't really need, and tried to mask it with general ignorance.

The first time I got called out for asking a question, I did need to know the answer, because it made the difference between a scum slip-up and a confirmed night action.

I don't care if I don't need to know why Porkens suddenly thought he was targeted by a killer; I

wanted

to know, and I don't see any way that scum would benefit from knowing which ship Porkens was on.

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bouncy.bouncy, scumlist plz.

Kast, Merkabah, and CF Riot.

I'm inclined to believe the 4 people involved with claimed actions are town, so if I'm wrong about that they would be next.

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I was posting as I read. So jeez, page 15 people, I wasn't gone that long.

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^^^ interesting.

Reasoning?

Kast because he seemed to be one pushing the RBT lynch without giving him a chance. And he keeps giving unnecessary information--slipping in things about not having any energy (I assume trying to imply he's not scum) while at the same time getting on my case about asking for what he calls unnecessary information.

Merkabah because I keep reading his posts as just spewing BS. Not seeing a lot of content there, and planting subtle suspicion about too many people.

CF Riot because all I've seen him do is point out reasons people could be scummy and ask questions without following them up.

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 5

Merkabah

- 2 - CF Riot, Papa Zito - (L-3)

Players not voting: bouncy.bouncy, Gammagooey, Kast, Merkabah, Plum, Porkens

vote: Merkabah

I didn't pick up Gamma. Plum, I can pick you up to keep you alive, but I was about to ask for energy myself

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And why do you want me to jettison tonight?

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I'm a little confused after reading the PMs. Why did I get the Shiva Furnace?

Did the inventor person send me it?
Was it automatic and planned for when Merk died?
Or was that spontaneous mod compensation?

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Planned for, ish. (If it got to a state where the mafia together could do nothing I had that as a backup)

Ah, okay. Well I really did need it. Too bad I got killed