Mini 971: Princess bride - They all lived .......

[CryMeARiver]

Nah, I'm just that beast

[CryMeARiver]

Nah, I'm just that beast

Vote horrordude.

Why? I don't like listening to you usually

[CryMeARiver]

Glad to replace in! I'm so psyched (this was the oldest large theme game that I was familiar with)
So I've never tried this before, but I know I like it when replacements do it and refresh my memory, so if I like it, must be good. Here goes nothing (and by nothing I mean a page by page analysis).

Page 1

Confirmations
Wolf does what I would have done and policy votes bv. Good job wolf!
Parama bandwagon
Beginnings of Sens bandwagon

Page 2

Hey look, Sens, bv, and animorph are all from the same place! MS reunion!
KMD "serious" votes ekiM, seriously? Later reiterates how scummy he find ekiM
ML claims Miller and has a "semi-random" vote on SPS for trying to force a joke
Sens vote ML for claiming miller
Parama wins town points for reaction to miller claim

Page 3

Wolf gains town points for his open mind about miller claim
I like Parama's scumhunt joke, but KMD ruins it and takes it too seriously
Parama and KMD argue about JackScum because Jack didn't provide reason for his vote. Guess who else didn't? Kmd! +scum points
Parama's sig is awesome +awesome points
Yet another pointless meta argument that just sidetracks town
Parama points out that argument is just sidetracking town +town points
KMD finally posts reason for saying ekiM is scum.

ekiM, however, is legitimately scummy trying to stay in the background by jumping the main wagon and contributing to the popular joke.

For the same reason Parama suspected Jack, that you shot down? +scum points

Page 4

Sens selfvotes +scum points
ML says Sens' selfvote is very townie. +dumb points
DDD and Jack argument-I think Jack is just trying to be funny, but DDD has a good point +little town points
ekiM says he has never seen a miller claim, but then says that some people do like to lynch millers. Also has bullshit reasons for find Parama scummy. +scum points
SPS chimes in saying he likes his vote on Parama. No reasoning. +little scum points
CKD says that "ML is not the lynch for today" which I don't like. If you find him scummiest, you vote/lynch him, no matter what his claim. Maybe just a slip of the tongue, so I'll let it by for now.
Sens switches from voting himself to voting Jack because he is voting him for no reason

Page 5

Animorph distracts the town with meaningless banter
Jack continues to tunnel Sens
Parama drops suspicions and bandwagons Sens with no reasoning
ML makes a protown vig comment +town points
KMD drops suspicions and bandwagons Sens with no reasoning
Sens hammers himself. +Fuck you points

Page 6

Wolf says that Sens is probably a frustrated townie but leaves a caveat at the end. Trying too hard to appear town? +little scum points
Twilight banter. Hey, look Bv returns after lynch. +scum points
Probably still at least on scum on this list due to the SK flip:

SensFan (7) bv310, curiouskarmadog, animorpherv1, Jack, Parama, Kmd439, SensFan

ekiM's 143 is actually pretty sweet +town points (Question though, were you working on this during the night or did you do it after the lynch?)
SPS and Jack vote without reasoning. If you know my meta, I hate this. +little scum points
ekiM's objective standpoint on himself should not be read as protown. He SHOULD answer his own question to himself though.


More should come later. But from what I've seen

Vote: KMD FoS: Jack and Parama

[CryMeARiver]

You gave me town points throughout your post. You FoS me at the end. Paying attention?

I FoS'd you because you dropped your suspicions to bandwagon Sens

[CryMeARiver]

Deadline is tomorrow morning by the way, Cry me a River.

Oh come on farside!

Requesting two day extension due to recent replacement

[CryMeARiver]

Also ekiM, you're here, mind responding to my post?

And my question posed to you.

[CryMeARiver]

From what I've seen, I dislike KMD's play the most.

Ends RVS with a serious vote on ekiM, called scum.
Argues with Parama because Parama finds Jack suspicious for pushing a Sens lynch without doing a "damn thing". KMD doesn't see a Jack lynch.
Can't come up with any reasoning for this suspicion until a a page or two later when he says ekiM is scum for bandwagoning Parama without any reasoning (staying in the background). This is virtually the same reason Parama suspected Jack. Blatant contradiction much?
KMD drops entire suspicions and case against ekiM and bandwagons Sens putting him at L1 with:

Unvote, Vote Sens

Other scum are Shovel and ekiM.

being his only reasoning.

[CryMeARiver]

CMAR, I see no question directed at me.

Horror, I have no way to verify that, and it's meta. Regardless of whether it's true it's still a cop-out from giving real suspicions so I'm not buying it.

Notice how I still want ekiM and ML lynched over you. Your thoughts on both those players would be appreciated, by the way.

Hell, I want everyone's opinion on ML. He's been going unnoticed all game and he's also scum so that's not a good combination.

Question was directed at ekiM

I will not be able to get on before tomorrow, and in case the deadline extension isn't granted:

I am Westley's Lover, the person that Sensfan tried to marry. I am a hider, who, if I hide with Prince Humperdink or a person targeted for a kill, I will be killed. Otherwise, I am protected from night kills. I cannot claim my true name or else I will be modkilled.

Very interesting flavor coming from farside
Will have to wiki the movie because I don't exactly remember the names and all. By the way, I forgot to ask, is there any claims that have occurred up to this point and is there any reason I should claim now (I have found it useful in games that I replace into to claim upon replacing to clear myself).

[CryMeARiver]

By the way, I forgot to ask, is there any claims that have occurred up to this point and is there any reason I should claim now (I have found it useful in games that I replace into to claim upon replacing to clear myself).

ML claimed miller right at the start.
Sensfan was SK and lynched.
Ani was Doc.
Parama claimed the role name "Westley" for no reason at all.
SPS claimed Cop, "Grandfather" with an innocent on CKD N1.
Horror just claimed hider.

Thank you sir

[CryMeARiver]

I don't want to lynch ekiM today. Don't want to lynch mac either.

If we're going to leave the claimed/semi-claimed trifecta alone (sps, par, horror) then we have:

ckd
kmd
ddd
cmar

And I suppose we can cross ckd off because of the investigation.

But I doubt that kmd, ddd, and cmar are our scum team. I'll do a recheck on them before deadline though. They are kind of the lurkiest.

Someone conveniently left themselves off the list LOL

[CryMeARiver]

Would you be willing to lynch yourself, CMAR? <____<

Well, the point of the game is to lynch scum, so I would prefer not to lynch myself since it took me FOREVER just to get in this game, but if it's for the good of the town, I would contemplate it. I'd much prefer a KMD lynch at this point. In what I have analyzed DDD hasn't come up that much, so I don't really have a read on him. And I don't like Jack's style of play, which might play into my FoS on him.

[CryMeARiver]

CMAR, why no response to my defense?

Sorry, I must have missed it in the Parama-ekiM argument...

[CryMeARiver]

That's L-1 then?

Vote horror

There you do it again,
but rather than take your word for horror's scumminess, I'd rather read the thread and form my own opinion before dropping the hammer

[CryMeARiver]

I targetted ekiM but I got blocked.

Vote: ekiM

What makes you vote ekiM just because you were blocked?

FoS SPS

[CryMeARiver]

I'm disliking Parama's reaction under Jack's constant pressure, especially his WIFOM statement:

If I was scum with DDD, why wouldn't I have voted him when I posted right around deadline? Scum would love the bussing points, I'd think.

This could easily be answered as part of your meta. It would be super obvious if you joined on the bandwagon late (bussing points only come usually towards those at the beg. of the wagon) because you are Parama

[CryMeARiver]

Meta is fail.
Also if you really care I love hammering so I tend to be late on lots of wagons.

Parama: "Meta is fail, Wifom is not fail"
Really? Wifom > Meta?

[CryMeARiver]

CMAR
Kmd

horrordude

MacavityLock
ekiM

I guess this is where the 4 votes need to come from.

Seriously Parama, now you are buddying? I have NEVER seen this play out of you, and you are disappointing me.
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to be voted.

Vote: Parama

Though in your buddying, you referenced how townie Jack was, so, hey I trust him.

[CryMeARiver]

Quick thought: what do people think about massclaim today?

Don't think it will help, but I have no problem claiming.
I still like Jack's pressure on Parama

[CryMeARiver]

Quick thought: what do people think about massclaim today?

Don't think it will help, but I have no problem claiming.

If you don't think it'll help, why don't you have a problem with claiming?

Don't think it will help

me

personally, don't think it will hurt the town either

[CryMeARiver]

Quick thought: what do people think about massclaim today?

Don't think it will help, but I have no problem claiming.
I still like Jack's pressure on Parama

So you're voting me for pressure purposes and not because you find me scummy?

As I said before, and you clearly chose to ignore, I dislike your reaction under Jack's pressure (buddying and terrible use of WIFOM)

[CryMeARiver]

What buddying?
And your only comment on the WIFOM was a crappy meta argument.

You were buddying up to Jack, at least it was pretty clear to be that way from my point of view.
And no, what happened was I threw in a tiny bit of meta on top of my original statement, and you countered it with WIFOM. You were trying to pretty much use WIFOM > meta argument which doesn't fly with me.

[CryMeARiver]

People, the following post does not come from scum buddied with DDD.

WHOOPS DEADLINE PASSED AND I'M NOT CHANGING MY VOTE ANYWAYS. NOT THAT I NEED TO. I BET WE JUST LYNCHED THE MOST POWERFUL TOWN ROLE ON ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING. OR WE LYNCHED SCUM AND MY ML/EKIM THEORY IS WRONG. IF DDD FLIPS SCUM EKIM IS STILL SCUM THOUGH.

Okay, done with the caps for now.

The following is the

only

mention of DDD in WNH and CMAR combined play.

Page 4

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DDD and Jack argument-I think Jack is just trying to be funny, but DDD has a good point +little town points

We lynch CMAR today.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet, now show me one game where I ever buddied my scumbuddy Good luck with that since I try to either stay away from them or bus them

Parama, more setup WIFOM and AtE is awesome