I've read games of a good bit of the people here, though.(I'm not stalking, I swear
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Did you miss my #185 as well as the points everyone else had to add to the argument or are you just trying to be funny?Elscouta wrote:And what am I supposed to do?
Explain why it is a tell? I already did.
...So how does this make him scum? I don't get why you would use this as a reason for voting.Zhero wrote:You seem adverse to people being labeled as town (lowering you mislynch pool?), and overstate people giving town reads as them being declared 'confirmed town'. Considering the benefits of declaring town reads (as mentioned already in thread), your resistance looks bad.
Ok. And this is scummy how? Also, how is it filler? I was opening up an idea because it wasn't Day 1 so I wasn't sure what to do.VV Catchup wrote:Hinduragi #71: Don't like. His post is pretty obv, and is filler.
Looked like he was trying to appear as though he was contributing. I didn't see any other motive about it and he never responded to that post either.VV Catchup wrote:Hinduragi #75: Major dislike. He's pertaining to Percy's #55 wherein Percy asks a question about useless abilities and says he already sent in his preferences. What's wrong with asking a question about useless abilities even if you've already sent your preferences?
So you think more info is bad? Going by the way you think this is scummy, that would mean Elscouta would be scummier. Oh wait, he flipped town.VV Catchup wrote:Hindu #108: Man this guy is on a roll. Instantaneously agreeing to the submarine claim without prior discussion since they can lie about it anyway? Check!
Nice reasoning.VV Catchup wrote:Hindu #156: This guy cruises into probScum territory.
Enigma, or me? Also, what? Scum feign ignorance if they feel it can help them win the game, as is the motive for all their actions. Anyways, how does this make me scummy?VV Catchup wrote:Hindu #209: Okay, what the fuck at the @Enigma tidbit. But he's already scum so w/e. Seriously, what do scum have to gain with feigning ignorance? Nothing. They feign ignorance once they've been called on it, but they don't feign ignorance from page 1 onwards.
Daytalk shenanigans?VV Catchup wrote:Hindu #226-#227: Possible daytalk shenanigans.
You definitely can't be very confident.VV Catchup wrote:Vote: Hinduragi The guy who I'm most confident is scum.
Socio wrote:Then there is the fact that Hindu isn't saying shit, so there is no point in focusing on him at this point.
Win.VC wrote:Hinduragi (2) - RedCoyote, Calcifer
What? All of a sudden you're not so confident?VV wrote:In other news: Zhero, Hindu, Doombunny9 are all scumzzz. So many scum, so little time.
Vote: Zhero
What great reasoning do you have this time?VV wrote:Vote: Hindu
This guy is my top suspect since my reread(Parse my mega-wall, you'll see.). A wagon on him would be a swell idea.
Tbh, I don't think that'll work. I play mini's alot different than newbie's.AV wrote:I've just finished a scumgame with Hindu so I'll ISO him and see if there's anything that pushes me either way.
LOL. So I'm being voted...because I wasn't here?RC wrote:I really thought he had a strong first day, but he's been kind of absent from anything going on today. Well, it gives me another suspect at least.
Scum and town can have shitty reasons for voting.VV wrote:If we were scum(and have daytalk), we'd(well, He'd.) make up a damn better excuse than that.
I was trying to promote discussion since others were indirectly discouraging it. That, plus I wasn't sure what I was supposed to say.Filler = 'making a post for the sake of posting', which is scummy in it's own way. Everyone probably knew what you said, and you're just saying it to appear helpful(and failing) FMPOV
So voting someone and them never responding to what you're voting them for isn't suspicious?Which was exactly what I'm accusing you in #71. Also, you're making someone look suspicious for something that isn't inherently suspicious. Scummy.
Yeah, but that was when I thought we had a doc around. I weighed my odds of doc & sub being in scum hands and, let me tell you, those odds were very low. I'll take my chances with good odds.More info is bad if scum gets info. True, we now know that scum probably has the sub w/c is good. But if Town GOT the sub, and the sub claimed, They now know who to NK. It's good NOW since we got that info but since Town had a higher chance of getting the sub when nobody knew, it was inherently bad at that time.
What is your definition of filler posts? I'd love to know. My 156 was to inform them to stop that theory discussion because it was a null tell.My accusation of your #156 is similar to #71: Filler posting. More filler posts = scummier
I told Enigma Andy was not automatically town for that. Andy could be town not reading rules or scum not reading rules/feigning ignorance.I was pertaining to your @Enigma tidbit at that post. You were accussing Andy as scum feigning ignorance
So misreading the vote count is now scummy. Yep, that makes sense. See, the great thing about your entire argument is you've called me out based on speculation, not logic.If you were scum, that little manuever was possible with daytalk. Of course, at this point I'm convinced you're scum so I can call out you're possible scum moves.
I didn't see very good reasoning in your attacks, hence why I'm calling you out on them.Real scummy, misreping my attacks on you by saying it wasn't reasoned when it was DAMN WELL REASONED.
No. We learned 0 things from this. The entire dropped post could be a frame. We can't tell. The best thing to do is leave it as null.Well. We learned 2 things from this:
1) Zhero is scum.
2) CAPS LOCK PLAYER is scum. Either SpyreX or Sociopath, probably.
3) WIFOM?
VV wrote:Note: The Stealth Bomber is a shared activated ability and cannot be detected.}
A.k.a. it can't be used on N1. Am I misunderstanding what you're trying to say here?first post wrote:DEFCON 2 – Further increase in force readiness, but less than maximum readiness – Two weeks or until lynch.
a) All non-NATO factions gain the following shared activated ability: Stealth Bomber {Kill target player}
The better answer is that they want to focus on him and prevent a currently popular lynch. Again, we can't know this for sure. We should definitely ignore that drop for the time being, though.Percy wrote:But why would the scum want to suggest that Zhero is scum?
Ok, now what's up with the AtE?Zhero wrote:Please don't buy this crap
-2 posts later-RedCoyote wrote:Vote: Calcifer
What? You backed off Calcifer because he's clarifying something? I didn't see much clarification because the entire vote is still not explained. Why mention the "like Enigma did" part?I really thought he had a strong first day, but he's been kind of absent from anything going on today. Well, it gives me another suspect at least.
Oh, wait, and I think I may be able to free up a vote. Calcifer seems a little more intent on clarification now, so I think I'll back off like Enigma did.
Unvote; vote: Hinduragi
Pray tell, what did Doombunny do that gives him the pleasure of being on your backburner?RedCoyote wrote:I'll willingly acknowledge that Doombunny is on my backburner, mostly because I think there are bigger, more pressing issues at the forefront here.
Oh, hell no. I'm done seeing this. You just said you were hopping on the Spyrex wagon BECAUSE of his established meta. And you're defending yourself/Andy with the same reasoning.VV wrote:Is it so hard to accept that Andy has an established meta of softclaiming/breadcrumbing with somewhat silly reasons?
I wasn't sure at the time who I wanted to vote for. I just wanted to see responses to my wall before my vote went out.AV wrote:All that text, but still no vote? Who is your top suspect and why aren't you voting for them?
How is that a random, forced comment? I said that for a reason and only scum should want this advice to be ignored. It's a prime example of nothing. You voted me for not posting here, not random, forced comments.RedCoyote wrote:This is a prime example of why I'm voting you. Could you be any less relevant to the game? I understand catching up, you know, and I sympathize with that. But what is this? It's like some random, forced comment on something.
What did the drop have to do with unvoting VV? Also, I don't like that. The like Enigma did part largely feels like you want to be indirectly associated with him since he's garnered town points.RC wrote:VV brought more substance to the game, I think (although I'm changing my opinion here again ). However, I unvoted him before the drop and before all these shenanigans with Spyrex. I mentioned "like Enigma did" because I felt that our reasons for dropping the vote were probably very similar.
I'm defending against a judgement call, something pretty similar to gut. What do you want as proof? An essay I wrote? Seriously.RC wrote:Prove me wrong. It's a judgment call on my part. Maybe you're busy, maybe you're letting Spyrex and Calcifer tear each other apart. Who's to say?
I'm doing the same thing. It doesn't exactly get me on your backburner, now does it? Who are your other scum reads?RC wrote:Posted. Responded to his attackers. Continued to attack. All good things.
It's not just inconsistency. It's for what seems to be a placeholder vote, misrepping me, and keeping your vote on me under false pretenses, such as the issue where you voted me for the Spyrex/Calc thing and then egged it on from the sidelines in the same post. Also, I just noticed you/Socio were both voting me. In one of your last posts, you defended Socio, the more interesting part being against the guy you put on your backburner.RC wrote:Hindu's trying to pin me for being inconsistent, but the bigger point is that he's made a playstyle shift from leading to being passive.
Enigma wrote:SOMEONE NUKE PERCY QUICK WHAT ARE YOU ALL WAITING FOR??!??
So, it might've been launched right after that post or it was just the mod posting when it was launched. If it as launched right after that post, I would definitely go for Percy being town and this incriminating him purposefully. Now, Im not sure when since it was deleted, but when Percy posted, he had three messages at the same time from the mod. This could've been scum spamming but I'd lean towards it just being the mod's timing, a.k.a. the nuke was heading toward Enigma before 3:50 AM.Mod wrote:[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to Engima.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate on Monday, 4 October at 03:50am EST.
Percy wrote:Just got home. Reading now.
Enigma wrote:DONT FUCKN HAMMER RED UNTIL SOMEONE NUKES PERCY WTF.
...I rest my case.Percy wrote:Vote: RedCoyote.
^This @ Socio.Spyrex wrote:I'm talking the other end. If someone says "I've got nukes yo" the answer is "prove it" because if they were lying then they are the dead as per rules.
I tried it on Percy's Vigenere site and gotCalcifer wrote:Also, could "may" be the key to the cipher? I'm not a coding expert, but yeah.
That failed.Result wrote:[quote="oe ddoadd rk fuj ppnce/xacwdgq. oy wnulhpn nule foe gk ltptrw cllizsltvazaoy wnj huyytasttkn gk pzosotlp axiwpe shkf dpyijanr hemabthizq oq phk eedoamw sz phgl tzsn nss yk lksdd ef zzid es rwavad
I was preparing to see if I should test the failsafe claim because I had a solid scum read on RC. The other info would just be added discussion to look at possible pairs with RC. Enigma getting a fighter result does check out as a valid reason for your hammer but why not mention it then?. I also wanted to see what reactions I could get from you or anyone else before N3 started.Percy wrote:What info would that be, exactly?
He thought you had the sub. Obviously, that wasn't the case.Percy wrote:Can you guys run by me again why Enigma targeting me was a potential scumtell?
No, if he had launched when he was getting lynched/nuked, it'd be another townie dead. But, there's also the chance Zhero would've been lynched. The deciding factor is whether or not they couldve predicted whether we'd go for Zhero or Socio. The Zhero block makes it obviously a Socio choice once the nuke was tested.Percy wrote:They couldn't use it today, because if Sociopath launched it we would have lynched him or nuked him back - and we killed him anyway. If we mislynched we'd be dead anyway. The nuke ended up being useless in terms of helping the scum win. Blocking Sociopath gets Zhero towncred, as Faraday postulated.
I don't think we should plan a lynch for the next day before the flip for this one is over.Percy wrote:If Zhero isn't scum, I'd say it's almost certainly Calcifer.
Oh hey there.Dead QT AV wrote:Imo, if Hindu is scum, he's pulled an entire sheep over everyone's eyes. They're arguing over who's scum assuming Hindu is town, so I can just see him biting them in the ass and being the scum all along
...It's things like this that are the reasons why you will die if I'm scum. =|Dead QT AV wrote:Called Hinduscum if he survived to LYLO, and I'm sticking by that judgement
>_>Dead QT AGM wrote:God, this lylo is soooooooooo sloowwwwww. If I have to replace people, I'm going to choke a bitch.
You have no idea. I pre-planned three possible situations since you died that could give us a win. The Percy NK was pre-planned and I wasn't sure if I wanted to do it since I planned on lynching Socio instead of nuking him but I went with it anyways. I am so pissed but I had bills to pay and I knew someone else would be able to do a better job than me since my effort would be half-assed due to the time restriction. (I would've had... research paper, Halloween and preparations, bills...It just wasn't going to be done the way I wanted it to if I stayed in)Dead QT RC wrote:I can't believe Hindu replaced out. I figured he had this game down. It looked like he really had a strategy going into the final day.