Mini 1054/The Illusion - Creation (Over)

[Chronopie]

/confirm

[Chronopie]

I call BS on rule 14

Claim: Miller

srsly.

Hai to... EVERYONE on the playerlist

VOTE: Gandalf RVS + Policy = Sparkles + Rainbows

[Chronopie]

Srsly? two hours since the game officially started, and... two posts. One a one liner.

--

I was debating between self-voting, ani, and yourself, as players with a typically anti-town meta.

Also: No caps lock kthx. There is no Fate/Sociopath/Elli etc to appease.

[Chronopie]

Chances of there being no scum: ~6%

Zang & animorpher: What do you think about this?

Was this based on the "everyone has a 1/3 chance of being scum" ruling?

--

Also, slow opening is slow.

[Chronopie]

everyone has a 2/3 (or 66.67%) of being town. 7 people.

0.6667^7=0.0585

or 5.85% of

everyone

being town. That works.

[Chronopie]

WTF is a scum miller?

also, given the fact that I'm a miller, I called BS on rule 14 in my first post.

--

Wait. Scum+Miller could be a GF?? but then Why would I claim miller in the first place? I'd investigate as town, so claiming miller is counter intuitive in said case... disregard.

[Chronopie]

Well...

14) Alignments have been

assigned to roles

randomly. Everyone has been given a 1 in 3 chance of being mafia.

So that means role comes first, e.g cop. then alignment, e.g town.

Role: Miller, Alignment: (really only one option here.)

[Chronopie]

So what would Mafia + Miller have been then? Do tell.

[Chronopie]

The rules say IF scum > 2 THEN factions > 1, possibly including an SK.

so if there are 3 scum, a scum cop is still of use to them.

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: Rule 16.

and 17 states that Mafia may not have a kill...

[Chronopie]

The Victim

[Chronopie]

A day and a half since my last post...

2 posts, both by Tony, + one from the mod...

@Mod: Prod

Everyone

thx

[Chronopie]

That works.

I'm a miller. Please say that you're a multi-shot Day-Vig.

[Chronopie]

Semi-V/LA over the next week or so, until I get full internet access back.

--

Holy cow, the thread exploded. (doubled overnight o.O)

Gandalf is looking

really

bad right now. Can we lynch him?

[Chronopie]

The thread slowed down again. :sigh:

--

Gandalf clearly hadn't looked at the VC as of #91.

My post wasn't a hammer threat. I was already on the Gandalf Wagon.

--

@Tony: Wait, What? Ani hasn't even posted. Why would he be bussing? Do you know something I don't?

--

Slow game is VERY, VERY SLOW.

[Chronopie]

Update: Ani's flaked from the site. Therefore I

nth

a force replacement request.

Someone feel free to drop the hammer or form another wagon btw.

[Chronopie]

17) Any mafia consisting of at least 2 does not have a kill unless they have drawn a killing role.

maybe a no kill mafia?

[Chronopie]

Hai kitten.

Xvart had a point with Gandalf's reaction fishing / Joke backtrack. But a Scum looking for a town lynch, or a townie after scum, could have done that. inconclusive.

[Chronopie]

I'd post, but I have no leads, and any vote I made would be little better than random.

-_-

[Chronopie]

So you're scum, by your own reasoning?

good enough for me.

Vot...

wait... I see what you did thar.

[Chronopie]

After re-reading, I'm still (mostly) at a loss.

Hmm...

Gandalf - The Jaded, VT

Chrono - The Victim, Miller

xvart

UncertainKitten

(animorpherv1)

GhostWriter

Zang

TonyMontana

I'm calling GW and xvart town, based on their positions on Gandalf (even though he flipped town, their arguments looked legit. xvart more than GW though.)
TM is probably town, his speculation on mafia composition at D2 start looks legit.

That leaves Zang and UK. With GW as a possible third choice.

VOTE: Zang

[Chronopie]

There's a 2/3 chance of anyone being town, we've had one townie flip. six people remain.

I know I'm town. The chances that everyone is town is about 9% (i.e 0 scum). It's unlikely, given the lack of a kill, that there's either

one

or

three

scum.

And my laptop is dying. bbl.

[Chronopie]

@Chronopie: Your logic is terrible. Fix it.

point out which bit needs fixing kthx. Everything makes sense from my PoV.

[Chronopie]

Far

more the former than the latter, but all it's I have rite naow.

[Chronopie]

No, the lazy re-read once over, figuring out what motivation I'd have had making those same posts, leads me to conclude that their actions were probably made from a town perspective.
Lazy: yes, scummy: No. geddit?

[Chronopie]

What's your role name TM?

i.e Jaded, Victim etc.

[Chronopie]

If lurking is 50-50, and there are fewer scum in a game as a whole, then disproportionate numbers of lurkers are scum?

i.e; 20 player game, 4 scum (1 in 5) i.e 20% chance of scum. 6 lurkers, 50-50 split means 3 of 6 are scum i.e 50% chance of scum. So a scumtell?

[Chronopie]

Problem is when lurkers > 50% of playerbase > # of scum.

[Chronopie]

If i understand it correctly, there's no upside to calling the game off.

I mean, do we lose if we play the game out to find there is no scum?

15) If there is no mafia in the game, the game will go on until it can no longer continue.
18) If at any point after day 1 the town feels that there is no mafia within the game, they may vote to end the experiment.

If there are any anti-town forces still alive at that point, the town loses.

So we play on. No downside to playing.

VOTE: GW in the interest of moving forward.

[Chronopie]

I'd do it. After all, I'm no better than a VT, being a miller.

[Chronopie]

The other name out there is

The Victim

(me)

Question (to either bomb): Can you self hammer? Does that mean no-one else dies?

claims

xvart, The Warrior, Bomb
GhostWriter, The Tightrope Walker, Bomb

Chronopie, The Victim, Miller
TonyMontana, The Dreamer, VT
UncertainKitten

(

animorpherv1

)

Zang

gandalf5166, The Jaded, VT

Maybe UK and Zang (especially Zang) should claim.

[Chronopie]

Unanticipated V/LA...

Be back in a few days.

[Chronopie]

This is interesting.

My Role PM doesn't mention anything about any dream at all. But being a miller, I'd show up guilty anyway.

[Chronopie]

oic.

[Chronopie]

Who did you/ani check N1?

@Mod: Is Zang within prod range yet?

claims

Chronopie, The Victim, Miller
TonyMontana, The Dreamer, VT
UncertainKitten

(

animorpherv1

)

, The Teacher, Flavour cop
Zang, The Timekeeper, Double voter

gandalf5166, The Jaded, VT

xvart, The Warrior, Bomb

GhostWriter, The Tightrope Walker, Bomb

Hmmm... Do we call it a game?

[Chronopie]

If you think it'll help...

VOTE: Chronopie Meh. Bored of this game anyway.

[Chronopie]

Actually, I'm calling

Vote: No Scum

.

[Chronopie]

Put your vote where your mouth is. -.-

[Chronopie]

Actually, that's a point. Zang, has yet to actually Double vote in any of the VCs.

Proof or rope.

[Chronopie]

I want to see if he's actually a double voter before I'd even consider hammering.

I still don't think we have any scum.

[Chronopie]

We are in agreement that there is probably either 0 scum, or 2 scum and Zang cannot be one. rite? Because if zang were scum, and not solo scum, they'd have 3 votes, compared to the town's 2, and have won already.

If we no-lynch, UK can check zang and myself. Then we can call it a game.

[Chronopie]

VOTE: No lynch

[Chronopie]

Double town bomb in an all town game, with a miller, a flavour cop, and a double voter...

Yeah...

I'd have re-rolled.

[Chronopie]

The way I see it, truly random was probably

too

much leeway.

maybe random within certain parameters i.e 2+ mafia. Roll: 3. 3 mafiates / 2+SK w/e.

and eliminate the potential for duplicated PRs i.e bombs...