Yes. I see where you are going with this.vezokpiraka wrote:And I found a way to break the game open.
Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N
Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.
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I was going to vote vezo for suggesting a mass claim, but then I saw this
Vote: Morthas, for basing his answer off of the example role PM, instead of his own (because he didn't get a town PM of his own.)i literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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I don't think pre-game flavor is relevant to the game at all.Stels wrote:Also, although I don't really like to go too much into closed game mechanics at such an early stage, but has anyone noticed that there were 2 kills pre-game (even though they aren't actually players). I don't know general mafia team setups for mini-themes (2 mafia, or 1 large(r) mafia), but since there were 2 kills, it already suggests something...
(Also, in case you guys didn't pick up my point with the sheep picture, it was accusing Hazard of sheeping, while cleverly posting a zoo animal)i literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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Gut, being active, and the fact that the cases on him are meh.Zyrconium wrote:
How about offering me the same courtesy you requested and explain how you ended up with a town read on TS?mb53 #63 wrote:Twistedspoon seems town to me >_>
If I was TS, I could destroy the cases on him. But I am not, so that is his job.i literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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To be more clear about why I am hesitant to defend against the case on TS:
In my first ever mafia game, I defended someone else. And I got fucked over because of it. Now just recently (different game), I destroyed someone's case. Turned out the guy actually was scum, and I again, got lynched for it. Not going to happen again, twisted can do it himself.i literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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@TS
This. There is no reason for you not t defend yourself. You are just using a lame excuse.vezo wrote:You can scum hunt and defend yourself.
Also, you said you wanted to question vezo. So... why aren't you asking questions?
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TS is getting scummier by the post >_>
WIFOM.twisted wrote:If i was scum I'd be a lot less active and be defending myself a lot more.
Good morthas post. That istownwagoning, while zyr isscumwagoning.
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It isKolafer wrote:Can you please tell everyone where he is going with this or if not then keep your mouth shut and let him go on with it if you DO know and not tease us by saying you know where, but not telling us, that's scummy at least in my view it is. I want an answer.reallyhard to explain without quoting role PMs.
The hoppster is scum trying to sound town post: mostly gut. Besides, I'm past that, and said I have a tow read on him now.
Already have. He is sheeping hoppster, without giving any reasons of his own, and then calling for an immediate lynch (90% sure he was serious).Kol wrote:OMG REALLY? Zyrc was only joking, I'm pretty sure he didn't mean it and that single statement is not enough to be lynched for a day, if your votes are serious though, can you at least say something more about why zerc is scummy.
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What the fuck are you talking about.This post tells me you're either hiding more stupidity or intelligence than you're showing, and you better show what you're hiding quick, my patience is running out.
I repeat. What the fuck are you talking about.Well did you really now?, good job on basing so much suspicion and some votes if I'm not mistaken about something that's been proven to be wrong now, great job.
P-Edit: Don't claim / nobody hammer. There is at least 1 person who has only posted once >_>
Stop ninja-ing me!
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I believe twisted's claim. Multiple reasons. One, is I doubt scum would be able to make up such a role. Two, my gut town read. Three, I re-read the thread, and found that zyr's vote on TS is even more bullshit than I thought it was.
He quoted half of twisted's post. The full post...Zyrconium wrote:
Cautious to the extent of AVOIDING scumhunting.... so not town....Twistedspoon wrote:not sure what I think of switching votes in RVS
Deflecting with fluff upon being accused.Twistedspoon wrote:anyone want to go RQS?twisted wrote:if we're going to go into the psycology of smilies then yes, you could say I usually dissaprove of vote switching in RVS . You RVS for pressure - why would you destroy reasonless pressure on one person to push reasonless pressure on another?
anyone want to go RQS?
Or he thought he was scum, so questioned it.zyr wrote:
Helping vezok rolefish while looking to discourage it(his question)Twistedspoon wrote:
WOAHvezokpiraka wrote:What do we do with the items we have? Can we donate them? Maybe if some one gets them all we win:D.
what do you mean by 'if someone gets them'
Is it even possible to transfer items?
what reasons do you have for thinking this? I hope this isn't role-fishing vezok from execution mafia again.
Aaaand... Thats pretty much all zyr has contributed to the case. All of which hoppster pointed out before him. And he is calling for an immediate lynch.
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Ok so Zycronium's first vote and he is already attacking Twistedspoon. Since he claims that he slept through RVS, I think its safe to assume that he's voting TP based on his two points here. Point #1 is a matter of opinion. Point #2 is based on...suggesting to ask questions? How is that scummy? Also, his last line to Vezok is teaching. Vezok can ask as many retarded things as he wants if he's scum. He doesn't attack him but suggests that Vezok doesn't do so again.Zyrconium wrote:Ghaa, slept through our RVS
But glad to know this town is planning on taking it's time, even if scum has decided to make itself known...
1) And why would you NOT?(P.S. direct answer is so that someone else is feeling said "reasonless pressure")Twistedspoon wrote:if we're going to go into the psycology of smilies then yes, you could say I usually dissaprove of vote switching in RVS . You RVS for pressure - why would you destroy reasonless pressure on one person to push reasonless pressure on another?
2) VOTE: twistedspoonTwistedspoon wrote:anyone want to go RQS?
P-Edit: FUCK, there's more than 1!(or vezok is being a retard again, I'd give it even odds)
Vezok, don't ask retarded things like that.... and if you do, do it in PMs to the mod....
So at this point, Zyrconium has continued to go after vezok. Yet, he doesn't vote for him and suggests that it can turn into a massclaim. I'm pretty sure that everyone, scum and town alike, would vote that evil people want to know your goodies.Zyrconium wrote:
This is even worse role fishing btw, and it's role fishing that if vezok is town assumes the mafia are all really really retarded..... simple logic could turn this into a massclaim.vezokpiraka wrote:And I found a way to break the game open.
Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N
Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER THIS.
@ Kalofer: There is nothing that says he is joking. Also, if it were, why didn't he respond when to people voted for him? Contributing any comment to "jokes" is always a bad idea. Just as TP has been saying "oh, i just use WIFOM a lot! ignore it," leaving Zyrconium can say "TEEHEEE I wasn't ACTUALLY trying to quick-lynch!"Zyrconium wrote:Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.
Now post 82 is too long to quote, but Zyrconium only says a grand total of 5 phrases! He simply divides up the same Twisted Spoon quote he referenced earlier, playing it off as a brand new point. The whole TP encourages rolefishing thing is BS. TP turns Vezok's rolefishingtowardshim, which is fitting given that he obviously suspects Vezok. As does Zyrconium, who has now completely abandoned the Vezok issue and is instead using Vezok's posts to hurt the now-under-pressure TP.
Then there is the Hoppster buddying issue, which I have ignored but figured it should be mentioned as part of a case on him.
Fair enough, but...Zyrconium wrote:Add, Ad hom to my loist of reasons.
Add Ad hominem to my list of reasons. And hypocrisy.Zyrconium wrote:He's refering to MB, reread the sentance, it's kinda subtle, but it's the only logical conclusion.
This is AtE... it's suprisingly effective on me, but when I notice it, it pissed me off even more, if you happen to be town TS, you're really really bad at it.....TS wrote:Whaaa, whaa, you're picking on me for talking too much!
I can't even find said "courtesy." Nevertheless, you are dodging both mb53 and myself via placing more attention on TS. I don't like how Zyrconium has ignored the two votes on him, whether or not he finds them to be illogical.Zyrconium wrote:
How about offering me the same courtesy you requested and explain how you ended up with a town read on TS?mb53 #63 wrote:Twistedspoon seems town to me >_>
I have found significant evidence against TP at this point, but it by no means makes TP our only suspect. He's just going with the most popular lynch, he only briefly talks about VEZOK-scum before turning it against TP, and has otherwise contributed very little.i literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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(Also note that nobody special was posting other places than here last night as well)
Oh and
That is just how I roll =)I suppose. I'm still not liking (not in a personal sense) you that much though, mainly for your short posts, constant vote changing and aggressive behaviouri literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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That is valid. But personally I doubt scum would ever claim their actual role.Hoppster wrote:1) Scum might not have to make up such a role. It could genuinely be a scum role.
2. I said this almost right before his claim.
3. Fair enough, maybe I should have just had it not numbered on a separate line.I wrote:I'm hating TS. My gut is telling me that he is town, but all of the evidence points scum.
Is that the only reason you are voting me? Or is there something else that I can defend against?
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Eh, kind of, not really though. More of a Hoppster zyr link (even though I have opposite reads on them xD).TS wrote:Question to town: Has no-one else seen a hoppster-Amrun link? Answer this
Amrun has a town read from me. I dunno whether its gut or what, but I don't really seem him as scum. As twisted would put it:
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I doubt that scum would be able to make up that role. I also doubt that scum would claim their actual role.Hoppster wrote:what makes you go with your gut in believing his claim over your head?
Like I said before, I would rather lynch zyrc, where both my head and gut is saying scum, rather than TS where my gut and head are conflicting.
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*Gasp* I see amrun's point though (and hopefully you see mine and vezo's now about the "Do evil guys want you items Y/N" question)
Wait was that the hammer?
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A little more justification for my vote.
WIFOM. That has been your only defense. All game. Then you say that WIFOM is unacceptable. Then you do it again.
My role PM almost flat out states that your role is scum.
Lack ofgoodscumhunting. And I know your excuse will be "I've been too busy defending myself", which is bullshit. You should be able to multi-task.
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I will agree that there isn't much defense for you anymore, now that you have dug yourself such a huge hole.
Also, the game has been going on for just over 2 days, and we are 12 pages in/nearing a lynch. ♥
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(My) Sequence Of Events/Thoughts
Thought TS was town.
Kept getting scummier, even though I kept a gut town read.
Claimed, believed claim.
Realized that the claim had to be scum.
Trusts hazard, TS must be town.
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No, I'm going with amrun's "My PM says that that rolehazard wrote:And then he rolls with the "His claim is scum role with green text slapped on" after I believe Hoppster came up with it.isscum"
Seriously though, TS, you honestly are really terrible (this game at least), whether you are town or scum.i literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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Yes, I believe I said in my last post that I guessed correctly.@ mb & crazypianist: Did you guess Hazard's reasons correctly?
I am not sure I see why everyone is voting for TS now, especially after his role was confirmed by hazard. I think TS had a good motive to lie and protect his power role. And no way could he accurately guess what the zoo visitor role does.
(Obviously, I am against LAL, or any type of policy lynch for that matter.)
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Not to try and get myself lynched, but we still have a week, and anything can happen.@ Kalofer: I don't think a mb53 lynch is going to happen. Out of Zyrc and TS, whom would you rather see lynched?
I think that TS is town. He was confirmed by the same role. I don't think either of them would lie, I see no motive for hazard to lie (whether he was town or scum) and no way would TS as scum successfully guess what the role does.
On a side note, I think vezo is town from his early "Do evil people want your goodies" question.i literally need to start a driving blog, please remind me-
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I forgot/can't believe this wasn't explained earlier >_>Hoppster wrote:@ Toasty: Well, I'm conflicted on vezok. The fact that mb53, Amrun and yourself answered it makes me think there may be some conceivable angle vezok is coming from. I'm not sure how vezok would know to ask a question that at least three other people would answer 'yes' to if he were scum. Having said that, I'm not sure why town would assume such a question would break a game open, so I'm unsure.
Sample role PM doesn't have the part about stealing goodies.
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