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well, this is the first weird/suspicious thing I've seen in this game.Truant wrote:Vote: PetroleumJelly
Actually;
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Clam yourself. You must see that voting for someone and then changing it without any reason looks a bit odd. So yes, why did you do that?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Wll, thats fair enough i guess. But it looked weird. Would have been more helpful if you said that in between votes.Truant wrote:
My first vote was my random vote (i.e. I wanted to recognize a certain person, say hi, whatever) while my 2nd vote is a more serious vote. What else could it be at this point in the game?mozamis wrote:Clam yourself. You must see that voting for someone and then changing it without any reason looks a bit odd. So yes, why did you do that?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I'll read through properly later and try and get some scumhunting going.
But just a question relating to theme games -do we say what animal we are, or does that give a clue as to our alignment? Do we roleplay at all, or is that not relevant?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Assuming there are only 2 scum, why would you want to vote for four people? best to keep the paranoia to a minimum.petroleumjelly wrote:Amrun wrote:...I want to vote like four players at once right now!You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Well, I'm not here to assume youpetroleumjelly wrote:
See, this is exactly the reason why I need more votes. I want to vote other people besides you, but you're just not letting me. Why are you "assuming there are only 2 scum" in a thirteen player game?mozamis, Post 58 wrote:Assuming there are only 2 scum, why would you want to vote for four people? best to keep the paranoia to a minimum.
I am also not amused with your post that boils down to asking us if we should soft-claim a part of our roles.
Unvote: Meransiel, Vote: mozamis.
Am i wrong to assume 2 scum then? Is more normal in a thirteen player game?
My main point was tho: lets not attack everyone. Particualrly this early on. It seems unlikely that there are four scum. Hence wanting four votes seems a bit hysterical of you.
No, i do not want any claims. I have never played a theme game, so was merely wondering how it works.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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becuase if we had multiple votes it would only take a couple of misguided townies, or the scum team, to lynch someone!OhGodMyLife wrote:@scotmany, what are you thoughts on moz? What do you make of moz and meransiel's interactions?
@moz, I'd always like to have multiple votes. Why wouldn't you want extra votes? Calling it "hysterical" is not really an argument.
absolute power corrupts absolutely etc Or, in american terms, the "checks and balances" of this game is one vote each -so one individual can't wield any more power than anyone else.
More practically, I was just trying to say that flinging mud at a lot of people is good for scum at this point, as it ups the paranoia and increases the chances of a mislynch. Hence "wishing i could vote for four people" isnt really helpful.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Maybe you are drawing too many conclusions from his actions.Truant wrote:What other conclusions should I draw from your actions? You're a townie that wants to help scum as much as possible?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I was merely saying that he was perhaps reading to much int o what Meransiel said.Amrun wrote:Is that mozamis defending merensial?
You are stirring up suspicions.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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This i find a bit TOO agressive, and as such, scummy. Trying to ridicule someone for wanting to be patient? Illogical. Plus a bit of "I'm experienced and you're a noob" from petrol.petroleumjelly wrote:Unvote: mozamis, Vote: Meransiel
I only regret that I only have but one vote to give. We just hit page 3. Acting like you are a fountain of virtue (by speaking of patience and equity) is really not getting you anywhere in my book. Especially since you are making generalizations about how mafia games are generally played and progress while just earlier you conceded your inexperience.
None of which looks very town to me.
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implosion suggests (rightly) that strange does not equate to scummy.
However, he then attacks Meransial on the grounds of being illogical.
I dont think being illogical equates necessarily to scumminess either.
So, implosion, why is being strange not scummy- but being illogical is?
My conclusion: Implosions case on Meransial is in itself contradictory.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Townies make mistakes and post illogically. I've been in games where people have posted one opinion (eg lynch lurkers) then later on have said "hey lets not lynch that guy just cos he's lurking" etcimplosion wrote:Even though I just explained why it is?
Maybe bad play. Maybe illogical. Maybe contradictory. Maybe "not good for town".
But not a scum tell.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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lol when i replaced scum in another game i started off by saying something like this.MrBuddyLee wrote:I read my predecessor's post history and he looks like a total douchebag and obvious scum.
Hi, I'm replacing Magnetic. I replaced in because PJ asked me to and because Shanba is totally Shibby. Let's catch us some scum.
fos BUDDYLEEYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Makes me laugh this game If you defend someone (or more accurately, take issue with what someone is being attacked about), you are "buddying up"-definite scumtell!OhGodMyLife wrote:
In brief, moz is defending/buddying up to you because you were taking a bunch of heat and looked like you'd possibly be lynched, and he wanted to be in the position to say "told you so" when you flipped town, or at least have you in his corner from this point on. Don't be hoodwinked.OhGodMyLife wrote:
No I'm pretty sure you're town. Moz is the one I'm concerned about.Meransiel wrote:And you think we are, dude .
People definitely seem to prefer the "attack everyone-gosh thats so town!"
I can't even remember what I didnt like about the atack on Meransiel. But someone attacked meransiel on pretty flimsy grounds. I found that attack suspicious or unconvincing.
Therefore, I am Meransiels scumbuddy
My guess is scum think the town can be hoodwinked by "the buddying up" argument. I'm hoping town are a bit smarter than that.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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This may be my fault for misusing the word "illogical". Anyway, lets not derail scumhunting by getting into some abstruse argument about logic. My point was Meransial was accused of being scum because he was being patient. That seemed ridiculous. I used the word illogical.scotmany12 wrote:I'm not buying this scumtell on buddylee. Not agreeing with it. I have seen town criticize their predecessors before.
Moz, please respond to this:scotmany12 wrote:
I want to know why being illogical is a scumtell for pj but not for meransiel.
But context is important. Along with this, PJ played an "experience" card-just seemed like he was beating up on Meransial cos he's quite new.
Dont set too much store by logic. Or by people contradicting themselves.
As I said before, town contradict themselves-or change their minds-the whole time.
I'm sure I have already. But its not a scumtell.
Its more of a feeling thing.Pj's attack on Meransial jst seemed unconvincing.
I feel my vote will probably be on BuddyLee quite soon anyway.
Gosh, am i changing my mind?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Ok, looking for most "pro-town" quotes.
Seems sensible. Doesnt want to lynch people for the hell of it. Wants to catch scum.Meransiel wrote:Because everyone has a right to defend himself. At least, day 1-wise. You don't vote on people that don't post, you ask the mod to prod them and get them replaced. Until that happens, voting for them means voting at random. And that's fairly anti-town (though unavoidable in some cases).
As such, I won't vote for someone that never posted. I suggest you don't rush with that yourself.
This seemed a fair comment. Lot of other people had picked up on Moz and Meransial, but not BlenBlen.OhGodMyLife wrote:@blenblen, you have completely ignored moz and meransiel despite the fact that there was serious attention being paid to them by pretty much every active player. Why? Tell me what you think of each of them: scummy, or towny?
Quite like this. He's suspicious, but staying focused on one scum at a time. In fact all of implosions POST 101 is prob. the most pro town thing i have readimplosion wrote: mozamis is also scummy, and they would make sense as a pair, but I'm going to stay away from pair speculation before any flips
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why? you're worried people think we are scumbuddies?Meransiel wrote:Thing is, I was referring to the vote count. So, when I said my vote was sitting on a player that I didn't think is scum, I was indeed referring to mozamis. But there's no way I can make you believe me.
moz, I see what you're trying to do, please, tone it down a little.
Think people are smarter than that.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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so you are the vig? is it normal to claim that early? and is that such a good idea for town? havent you just painted a big target on your back?petroleumjelly wrote:Okay, time to spice things up.
mozamis, explain in detail why you apparently suspect (i) MrBuddyLee and (ii) myself, and (iii) why you are defending Meransiel. Do not simply quote your posts, or shrug this off. If you do not explain, I will DayVig you.
I would not suggest asking "are you joking?" with your next post. I am starting to get an itchy trigger-finger. This is your one and only fair warning.
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again, a bt bullying for my taste. calm it down. you will get better responses.petroleumjelly wrote:And while I'm at it:
If anybody doesn't post for four days (96 hours) without giving V/LA notice, you are also subject to being DayVigged today. Lurking towns are losing towns, so let's just avoid the whole "I-just-won't-post-today"-mentality if we can avoid it, hmm?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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we need an answer PJ as to why/if you have claimed vig. Saying "i dont care" is unhelpful to town.
To answer your question: I havent seen anything scummy from Meransiel.
Some of the questions he has been asked have looked quite scummy tho.
And please dont say i am "now defnding meransiel". You asked me why i think hes town. Thats the answer.
What do people think about PJs vig claim btw? Seems a bizarre, tho not necessarily scummy thing to do.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Umm..authority? you dont have any authority lolMrBuddyLee wrote:Oatmeal chocolate chip, please.
mozamis, if you have a problem with authority, please don't take it out on us. Go shoplift a Coke and Cheetos from a 7-11, then come back and give us some answers.
I was merely saying i didnt like the bullying town of Pjs questions "Answer my questions or i'll vig kill you". Great town attitude lol He might just be an arse of courseYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Couldnt remember the questions, sorry.scotmany12 wrote:...There were two other questions for you to answer Mozamis. You totally just avoided answer why you think both pj and MBL are scum. Again.
I'm not sure about PJ -hence why i unvoted him. His vig claim seems bizarre, tho i dont see a scum motivation for it. Maybe he is the vig and just wants to shout about it, god knows why.
Look at Buddy Lees style-its all flinging suspicions at everyone, flailing around, and yet it doesnt have the authentic air of scum hunting to me.
My feeling is that he's going for the "lets mess with their heads/twist all arguments" approach of scum.
Just a gut feeling i guess, but he seems the most scummy, hence my vote.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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MrBuddyLee wrote:
This is probably the best post in the game thus far. I spotted OGML's weaksauce on my third readthrough and was going to post about it when I came across kunk's good find.kunkstar7 wrote:OGML's calling calling out of moz and Meriansel reads really weak to me.
@OGML you keep trying to get everyone to look at these two players, comment on them, and even have your vote on them, but you don't express any reason to do so (even if its just gut). What gives?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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scotmany, i couldnt remember the other questions. Don't put an emotive slur on what i said("conveniently forgot").
Check out that huge post from Buddy Lee. He pretty much fingers everyone in the joint.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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gut feeling may not be enough to lynch the guy, but its enough for me to keep my vote on him so far.implosion wrote:Mozamis, could you elaborate? What particular parts of which particular posts of MBL demonstrate his "flailing around" and lack of an "authentic air of scum hunting?" Gut feeling isn't enough.
Meransiel, so are you not attacking mozamis because mozamis is defending you? How does mozamis defending you, in any way, make mozamis look like town to you?
If emeory serves he has been tunneling for Mernsiel as well. Vould be wrong about that.
I have a bad feeling about him. If its good enough for Han Solo, its good enough for me
Anyway, PJ thats all your getting from me. WHY DID YOU CLAIM VIG ?You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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oh, implosion, i'm pretty sure you're town. i would start directing more of your questions at PJ and buddy lee if i were you. Maybe scotmany as well.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Have to say, although this is a completely moronic post, it does make me think that PJ is town.petroleumjelly wrote:And while I'm at it:
If anybody doesn't post for four days (96 hours) without giving V/LA notice, you are also subject to being DayVigged today. Lurking towns are losing towns, so let's just avoid the whole "I-just-won't-post-today"-mentality if we can avoid it, hmm?
And it made me laugh as well, some mad townie standing up and shouting "I'll kill the lot of you if we dont catch scum"You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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in fact, i would string buddy and scot up now if we could.
hopefully someone else can dig up the evidence on em, cos i cant be arsed atmYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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oh, buddy lee looking scummier. dragging up an old post (for which i got warned by a mod). Thats nice of him lol
desperate behaviour from scum. No way a townie would be this manipulative. "Oh look at Mozamis nasty posts in another game, peeps! He must be scum in this one"!You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Lol! I've been pleasant throughout this game. I was out of line in that other game-but thats another game, and not relevant to this one.MrBuddyLee wrote:Actually, that's not what I was trying to accomplish with that post. I was trying to get you to quit calling people morons if you're town. Make some cases and quit avoiding questions.
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PJ, thats why people don't like it. And u may say "tough noggles"or whatver it was but its not the best way to get town on your side.petroleumjelly wrote: I am basically using my role as if I am an aggressive Moderator who demands activity from his players.
It will just get peoples backs up, and may end up being a collosal diversion from scumhunting. Lets assume for now you're the vig as a you say you are. Just use your powers to shoot who think is scumYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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more activity would be great but i just dont think shooting someone cos they havent posting is a good idea. Same idea as "lynch all lurkers" i guess. WE wanna hit scum!You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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ps i didnt mean PJ should vig on some democratic process. He can obviously kill whoever he wants. I just URGE him not to kill on the basis of lurking.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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agree with last post one hundred per cent.
check out some of Buddy's old games. He's a lot nicer when he plays town.
On its own, thats not enough evidence to lynch him. But its all beginning to add up.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I hear you. But either, way, MBl's first post still looks scummy to me. The point is if he is town, why make that "joke" abouyt predecessor looking scummy? Why worry about your predecessor if town. I'm still happy with my vote on Buddykunkstar7 wrote:
@mozamis: Now you are just reaching for anything that will correlate with your baseless accusation against MBL. Made even more evident by the fact that you didn't even check the information in that post before responding to it.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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lets say you're right (which I'm not sure u are). But lets assume you are. I still think coming into a game joking about your predecessors history being scummy is a dodgy thing to do. Again, why do that if you were town?
Plus i just felt his subsequent posts reeked of flailing.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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@ kunkstar so u don't find BuddyLees posting a bit dodgy?
No. I just don't believe what he has said.tuncali wrote:mozamis, are you intentionally blurring what has been said by MrBuddyLee in order to make him appear more suspect?
I think you misunderstand me. By saying "again,why do that.." I am not asking Buddy for another explanation. I am reiterating my point that he had no town reason for saying his predecessor looked scummy. I think you are confused by my idiom "Again.." meaning "this is my point again", not "buddy, could you please explain again".tuncali wrote:But you are trying to make it appear that he has never given an explanation, when you say things like "Again, why do that if you were town?"
@Meransial why do you now think I am scum?
Oh, and btw I now think we should try and avoid talking about Pj's vig claim. Just keep it on the back burner as it were. Its not gonna get us any closer to finding scum.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I dont understand this. What do you mean "theres no way a town can say this?" I just asked Mernasial why he thinks I am scum. And then asked him to state his supicions (which he did). Why cant town say this?nopointinactingup wrote:mozamis wrote:@Meransial why do you now think I am scum?
mozamis wrote:well, tell me why you are suspicious of me
ZOMG LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH this guy. There's no way a town can say this! That increase the probability that merensial is town tho.
Unvote.Vote:Mozamis
MBL continues to ignore, PJ, please vig mozamis after his fake claim so I can talk about how mozamis is MBL's partner in law.
And what do you mean by "fake claim". I haven't made a fake claimYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Ah, gotch ya Well, I must be pretty near to L-1 now. Could we have a vote count, please Mod, God of All FrogsMeransiel wrote:He means we will get you to L-1 and pressure you to claim. And he thinks your claim will be fake. Or that's my interpretation, dunno.
ps lol tho-thats a bit of a catch 22 ,isn't it? If i claim town, its a fake claim and I'm shot, and if i claim scum then I am lynched.
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Buddy, stop scattering your posts with"M and M". Stop trying to reinforce the factually non existent hypothesis that there is a connection between me and Meransial.
Still, I suppose its your job as scum to get town to think there are links where there are none, but you can do better than that, I'm sureYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Maybe. But, be fair amrun-haven't seen too many reads from you.Amrun wrote:But what made you have that read and then change it? What a copout.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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I should give u more on what i was thinking i guess. Seem to remember Scotty popping up to back up some of MBls attacks -it kinda looked like they were working in tandem maybe. But scot has since fell silent. Frankly, I just dont have enough evidence on him to think he's scum. Guess he's still in my top 5 maybe, but lynching him now would be way too premature.Amrun wrote:But what made you have that read and then change it? What a copout.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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jeez cant people be more concise with their points? walls of texts are just a pain in the arse to read. as well as being good camaflage for scum (IWOA-is that the right buzzword?)You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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have to say all this protecting/defnding stuff seems balls. why shouldnt i defend people who i think are town? when did that become a scumtell? Cobblers, as we say here in dear ol' BlightyYou've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Apokalyptika wrote:Ok then,Vote: mozamis. Flipflopping, dodging questions, buddying/sucking up, not cool. Also saying that being illogical isn't a bad thing, and this backpedaling on scotmany. PJ is town, implosion is town. Possibly Amrun too. Meransiel is scummy, Truant/CES is silly in his MBL vote but otherwise fairly null.
1) Yes I have changed my mind,as anyone sensible on day 1 is bound to do.
2) "Buddying up" is just a buzz word that implies scumminess. I have defended people who I think are town. Nothing "scummy in that".
3) Being illogical is not a bad thing -my meaning, as I'm pretty sure I said at the time, was that being illogical is not a scumtell. People will contradict themselves, change their minds, have feelings which they find hard to articulate. None of which makes them scum. Unhelpful/annoying maybe. But not scummy.
4) "Backpeddaling" -is the same as changing my mind -see point 1.
Your vote really boils down to "don't like the way this guy is posting, it doesn't fit into my preconceived paradigm of how people shuld post in Mafia".You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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Lol so you are not changing your mind? I would have thought it was fairly clear that I didnt give my reasons for scot because:Amrun wrote:@moz: this game started at a terrible time for me, so I haven't been able to designate enough time to this game, but still, I have given more reads than you. Just because I can also do better (and plan to, starting in the next couple of days) doesn't mean you get off the hook for completely abandoning your read when pressed about it.
@PJ: okay. Sorry I didn't have time to do the research myself. I was just curious. So the replacements for those seem to be null tells.
P-edit: That's better, moz, but too little too late. Why was that so hard? And I don't remember scot doing that at all, tbh.
1) I knew I didnt have much more to go on than instinct.
2) I didnt want to get distracted from BuddyLee, who I am much more convinced is scum.
You maybe annoyed that I didnt reply sooner. But everything I have said is true.You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...-
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