Mini 1162- Inglourious Basterds Mafia (Game over)
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Now I have one.nintendoaddict1 wrote:
Reason plzDemonHybrid wrote:Vote: nintendoaddict11
Wagon on nintendoaddict go, please.-
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You realize that I'm responding to the fact that you asked for a reason, right?-
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Why are you so concerned about my reason for voting you as my first post in the game when the game is clearly in RVS? That alone is indicative of you being scum. No one HAS to have a reason in RVS; they vote to leave RVS, and that's exactly what happened when I voted you and you responded to me in what seems like a slight panic.nintendoaddict1 wrote:
And you've yet to tell me what it is.DemonHybrid wrote:You realize that I'm responding to the fact that you asked for a reason, right?
If you could pick people who are likely scum, who would it be, NA1?-
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RVS vote and a 2nd vote on a RVS bandwagon.DemonHybrid wrote:Vote: nintendoaddict11
Overreaction. RVS is over for me.nintendoaddict1 wrote:
Reason plzDemonHybrid wrote:Vote: nintendoaddict11
Serious statement.DemonHybrid wrote:
Now I have one.nintendoaddict1 wrote:
Reason plzDemonHybrid wrote:Vote: nintendoaddict11
Wagon on nintendoaddict go, please.-
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Not very often, though that whole "joke" point is moot if you were referring to copying pappums' sig. You're scum for overreacting to an RVS vote with no reason and you have no reads.nintendoaddict1 wrote:Okay, then if 'they all say' it's a joke, how many times does the person actually turn out to be town as opposed to scum?
3 votes is not enough, people.-
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Unvote, Vote: Toon Fighter
I just got back from class and I fully agree. I'm not comfortable with nintendo being on the wagon but TF knows better than to not vote for RVS and to switch reads like that super quickly.-
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Benmage is right on the money, too. Everyone here knows that you start with no information, so you gotta find whatever you can to get that information.
nintendo's response to my vote was bad, but TF's response to the wagon is horrible.-
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Because TF didn't post his wishy-washy statement until after I voted you, made the argument against you and left for class.nintendoaddict1 wrote:
My point is that perhaps he unvoted for the same reason as me, or what you perceive my logic to be. He may have changed his vote because the wagon on me was weakening since you left it. And speaking of no previous suspicion, I didn't see Demon mention TF anywhere at all. He didn't make any suspicioins about him either.pappums rat wrote:The only difference is, I wasn't voting him, I was voting you. Then I unvoted you and voted someone else. And then you voted that someone else without expressing any previous suspicion of him, even though you directly quoted the post that supposedly later made you suspect him, joking about it. Therefore, you look opportunistic, and your defense thusfar has been thoroughly underwhelming.-
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Toon should claim. His responses have been awful up until now.
And I don't like NA1 either and will be my next choice of lynch. tclaw hit the nail on the head, but Toon Fighter has made worse moves so far.-
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Any Shoshanna CC's? Don't claim role, just flavor.-
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...Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lol. Ok. I'm a jester. I wish to be vig'd tonight. If there are no vigs, I wish to be lynched tomorrow.-
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Toon, don't full claim.
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I usually don't rely on flavor like this, but a Shoshanna fake claim seems sort of unlikely in an IB mafia, to be perfectly honest.
I haven't a clue how to make out ABR's post. There's no town or scum motivation to saying something like that, so I'm just going to ignore the fuck out of him.
Lynch nintendo addict, please.-
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No one would have expected a Homer claim to be mafia though (though that game was beside the point; we lynched the fuck out of Mist to prevent a CC and because her ability claim was atrocious). And it wasn't.Benmage wrote:I'm baffled you guys even had TF flavor claim with 2 weakass votes.
Flavor is meaningless to me. Scott gave good scum fakeclaims in Simpsons Mafia.
moar nintendo votes.
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My heart bleeds for you.nintendoaddict1 wrote:Well lynching me will get you nowhere, and it will only give the mafia a full night phase to kill someone of value.-
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*Beloved
It's rare to encounter that sort of thing nowadays.-
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You know, after Scott put a Faith Healer into Simpsons, a Beloved Princess claim would have really fucked with my head.-
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I misread your statement as "Being on a wagon -for- a claimed jester". And I had nearly forgotten ABR's weird post.pappums rat wrote:Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lol. Ok. I'm a jester. I wish to be vig'd tonight. If there are no vigs, I wish to be lynched tomorrow.-
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Die the first night or get lynched. A separate win con.
I believe you. I believe Toon. I DON'T believe nintendo.-
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Dammit, my mind keeps going back to Simpsons mafia. Sideshow Bob...-
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p much ate yannonintendoaddict1 wrote:
When I flip town your head is gonna spin.DemonHybrid wrote:Die the first night or get lynched. A separate win con.
I believe you. I believe Toon. I DON'T believe nintendo.-
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I never thought you were town. I thought Toon was worse at one time.
And I'm pretty sure the reason how my vote went from RVS to serious was explained like, 50 times.-
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Because I thought you softclaimed Beloved Princess, which is something I could have totally seen in a game of IB mafia with Scott as the mod. But then you claimed VT, so I went right back into not believing you.
Preview edit: You're just pulling at loose straws. I went from having no information to not believing that you're town.
You've gotten a straight answer. Your reaction to my vote was panicked and my vote then became serious.-
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...not really.nintendoaddict1 wrote:I've realized that no matter how I play this game or what I post your mind will be made up. Again, don't believe me, I can't force you. Fine. Lynch me if you must, you will only be making possibly the stupidest ML of all time.
See, even now, evidence posts to you being a good lynch. You aren't doing any scumhunting, any questioning or anything that elicits responses from people. You're just saying that you're town and I'll be sorry so don't lynch you and that's it.-
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The only thing resembling scumhunting was your TF wagon switch. That is -it-.
That list of reads was in response to someone else. It doesn't count.-
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Just wow.
I'm okay with ABR at the moment. I'm NOT okay with tclaw, Benmage or split.
Vote: splitfarvle
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I looked at the wagon and I can see it being a prime target for wagoning scum, even if there are some who were genuine on it as well.
tclawren's posting and his wagon jump don't sit well with me.
tclawren wrote:What obvious joke? *looks at the thread* Oh, that's right. There isn't one.
VOTE: nintendo
After some heat has been put on nintendo.
This sequence of events really make me suspect TF. It looks like he just decided to cave under the slightest bit of pressure placed on him. FOS: TF
After heat has been put on TF (a weird string of FoSes...it's weird that tclaw would add a FoS to a ton of FoSes)
Well, thanks to further replies by NA1 I am very satisfied with my vote. I really don't like the fact that when questioned about hopping onto a competing wagon he does a deflection onto DH. It reads like someone who is very uncomfortable being in the spotlight, which is a scum attribute.
Also Meransiel, the game has been going a while and I know that vote isn't a RV. Care to explain?
And just like that, the TF discussion is gone, funnily enough once the heat starts coming off of him. The rest of his statements are useless, like "We has two jesters lulz" and stating the obvious "AtE! Totally lynch that guy nao!"
Benmage:
unvote vote nintendoaddict1
Noobs/sucky players are too hard too read. If I committed things they are often guilty of I'd expect myself lynched in a heart beat. Its just too hard to recognize it as scummy actions...or them not knowing better.
This can be considered a policy lynch.
....yeah, enough said. This is too far into the game to not have a concise opinion on someone that has been talked about a lot. "He's hard to read, but he's a good lynch."
You seem to pin Elsa with more scumminess in the same post:
Wait what?!?!
Its how early? He's not going around doing anything of what you're saying (i.e.calling people town, and not naming scum). In fact he first called NA1 scum..then reversed it to noobtown.
Call him out on quickly jumping at NA1 (calling him scum so early) Or flip flopping (rapid change of opinion with little added information/total information ingeneral). Not for naming people town...and trying to not call people scum.
Ridiculous assertion.
I'm baffled you guys even had TF flavor claim with 2 weakass votes.
Flavor is meaningless to me. Scott gave good scum fakeclaims in Simpsons Mafia.
moar nintendo votes.
Say what? You have more evidence against Elsa, but are unsure and want to keep pushing your crappy NA1 reasoning?
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splitfarvle wrote:nintendoaddict1 wrote:L-5 is hardly worthy of being called 'piling up'
I agree, which makes your reaction seem like panic. BTW I said "starting to pile up" which I differentiate from "piling up" because the latter seems to imply several votes instead of just two. It's a subtle distinction, I admit, but your slight misrepresentation of what I said coupled with your opportunistic vote on Toon Fighter makes me comfortable with this vote:
VOTE: nintendoaddict1
splitfarvle is also scummy because he went 3 posts protesting NA1's overreactionwithout even voting.
I'd like any 3 of these guys lynched. The NA1 wagon jumps just seem opportunistic, weak and hollow.-
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In fact,
Unvote, Vote: Tclawren
I didn't see drew's vote.-
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I'm okay with ABR simply because:
1. Mod meta. I can't get Scott's Sideshow Bob out of my mind, and I know that's just weak reasoning...
2. ...but the motivation for claiming jester is COMPLETELY lacking. Both town AND scum motivation. I know its weird, but I find myself completely believing him for now. And that's all he's been talking about, too, so he's not just fucking with us. He really has something to convey.-
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EBWOP: I'm going to call a conditional jester. Jester up to point A, another role for the rest of the game, because Sideshow Bob was a SK with a wincon of "Kill Bart". If Bart dies by another hand, he turns into a Survivor.
Look at his claim and tell me that that's any different and I'll laugh at you.-
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first one: It was after you put some heat on him. I saw the point you were making. I agreed with it. I voted. What's wrong with that?
It'd be fine if you didn't do almost the same exact thing with an FoS on TF.
Also, I'm not buying that "I used an FoS because I felt better with my vote on NA1". You didn't have to use an FoS at all. In fact, I RARELY see FoSes used, and having it used twice in a row in a wagon that flared up and died really quickly reads as REALLY weird to me. Was FoSes the flavor of the day that day, or what?
This is something I noticed and something you can't talk your way out of. And you aren't even assessing ABR's claim right. You completely ignore motivations and see things at face value, so either you're not really thinking things through or you're a smooth talking mafioso.-
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splitfarvle wrote:pappums rat wrote:When I read the night scene, Cat People started playing in my head.
/off topic
I second Benmage's question, why are you not ok with those people DH, and why are you ok with ABR?
Day one told us nothing AFAICT, and now we are down 4 townies. I am wondering what everyone would think about a massclaim at this point?
Vote: Albert B. Rampage
I'm against a massclaim at this time for many reasons. With the unusual roles that have flipped so far, and a claimed jester, I'm against revealing more than we have to because of a game I was in where one role (SK) had to hunt certain other roles. The SK decided to do this by suggesting a massclaim. I can't actually imagine a good reason for town to suggest a massclaim except in LYLO.
VOTE: pappums rat
Re: DemonHybrid's case on me, I didn't think nintendo's reaction was worth a vote, but his subsequent defense was.
It's finals week and I'll be checking in as much as I can.
V/LA until May 5th
Didn't once look at the town motivation behind suggesting a massclaim.
split, assume pappums is town and give me reasons why he would even fathom of suggesting a massclaim.-
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Just logging this for later. Your push against Elsa was not a "Elsa is scummy" push, but an "Elsa is wrong" push. This is something you didn't explain before and something you should have specified.
Reasoning?
Again, obvious. I STARTED the case against nintendo. Don't act like it was a wagon I jumped on like you did (and called it a policy lynch, mind you).
Now you come in today. Name 3 people you’re fine with, and obviously since following drew are fine with whomever. Buddy CENTRAL coming from DH.
I said that I was NOT okay with you, split or tclaw. I didn't say anything else about anyONE else except for ABR and pappums. And the fact that he is being wagoned for fakeclaiming to get an action out even reads MORE town.
You’re okay with ABR…. mod wine. Claim confuses you. Nothing about ABR’s actions have been protown this game.
Oh yeah, I forgot. You're fucking terrible at judging motivation regardless and can't comprehend why scum wouldn't do something like that, even if he ISN'T the jester that he claimed to be.
SCUM buddying even potentially a 3rd party here.
That is so dumb. Can you name a time when mafia buddied with a third party without coming out completely fucked? No? Can you understand why there's no motivation behind that then, and therefore clears me on that point as well?
We’re in a mini. What do you think the scum/nontown roles look like? You keep referencing Simpsons…This is gonna be different. So you think ABR is a jester survivor? Or what? Games swingy okay. Lovers looks like it hurt town more than helped.
How many scum do you think there are DH?
How many nontown roles?
I haven't a clue what ABR is now, and that point is moot. In a 13 man mini, but factoring in the lovers, I'd say 2 mafia and a third party of some weird variety. Since ABR isn't it (or MAY be it), do you really think that me, as scum in your eyes, would willingly put my ass on the line by helping out the third party and not going with the wagon that'scurrently being built?
3 non-town roles. If there is a third party, I'm willing to bet that it coincides with town's though, so that yet remains to be seen.
-You push ninendo for shitty reasons, but are trying to paint me poorly…nonono
So, me creating the "nintendo caved under vote pressure off the get-go" case is worse than your "Policy lynch. Vote: NA." case?
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^ All this to benmage. I thought I mentioned him at the beginning of the post.-
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ABR couldn't be more fucking town at the moment.
Votes off, people. How about we lynch tclaw?-
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tclawren wrote:VOTE: Pappumsrat
1) That hammer was bad. NA1's reaction to the gambit(?) was totally a town reaction.
Explain.-
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pappums rat wrote:As ill-planned as it was, I don't think ABR is likely scum,though a one-shot SK is not completely out of the question.
....pappums, have you finished a game as scum? If so, can you link it please? I want to see if you make crazy suggestions like this if there is meta at all.-
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See, I'm not sure if it's wise to hook into the fact that it does seem like you're trying to keep a link towards ABR as being scum. ABR is the most town player in this game. The flavor makes sense, his kill (though was a bad decision) made sense, his claim makes sense and his play makes sense. I DON'T like the fact that you created that link, but if you have both town and scum meta of making crazy decisions, I won't look too hard into it.
I'm still okay with my tclaw vote. Can we please lynch him?-
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BULLSHIT. You did not start the "CASE" against nintendo.
Ever since my 2nd post of the game. Come on, now.
I meant fine with, as in fine to lynch. Any of the 3 will do. Illustrating your lackadaisical attitude. Your non-genuine scumhunting. You'll lynch any 3...whose ever popular opinion will do. Horrible.
Or because any of you three are really really scummy and I'd be okay with your lynches.
Ben, someone posts a scumlist and lists 3 people as scum. Why is that more acceptable to you?
(Hint: It's because I'm against you, isn't it?)
You bet your ass it is.
Did not read past this sentence. Talk about a "lackadaisical" attitude; you'd go with a policy lynch over evidence.
Also, ask me specifically what you want me to explain as far as my case goes on tclaw. I thought I made it very clear. Also, I've noticed you and tclaw have rarely mentioned each other all game.-
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Elsa wrote:Continuing on that line of thought, in 61 pappums grills NA1 for voting without expressing prior suspicion to someone… on page 2. It’s a reaching argument that I do not like. And to me, scum have to make things to look for, therefore reaching logic = scum.
I'm going back and forth with pappums. He has limited interaction with the people who I'm currently suspecting and he only argued with townies (and ABR, but he's pretty much a stone's throw from being confirmed town at the moment). He also reached to keep his suspicion on ABR alive. Do not like.
The only things that keep me from voting him are:
1. He was the one that started the Toon Fighter suspicion. It reads off as genuine to me.
2. There's really less scum motivation behind suggesting the 1-shot SK than we might think, even if it looks scummy on the surface.
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DemonHybrid wrote:See, I'm not sure if it's wise to hook into the fact that it does seem like you're trying to keep a link towards ABR as being scum. ABR is the most town player in this game. The flavor makes sense, his kill (though was a bad decision) made sense, his claim makes sense and his play makes sense. I DON'T like the fact that you created that link, but if you have both town and scum meta of making crazy decisions, I won't look too hard into it.
I'm still okay with my tclaw vote. Can we please lynch him?
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pappums rat wrote:Oh yeah, and FFS SK's claim that they are vigs all the fucking time.
Never mind. I want you to claim. I can't believe you're STILL hanging onto that reasoning.-
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How are you qualifying "starting off suspicion"? While, yes, Pappums was the first to vote for TF, tclaw quoted posted a "FoS" of TF (for basically the same reason) one post before pappums's jumped in to vote.
Did he? I may have missed it, let me go and check.-
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pappums rat wrote:^ So you call NA1 scum and yet you have an RVS vote out? After the event that caused him to be scum has occured?FoS: Toon Fighter
I was talking about this post.-
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pappums rat wrote:Thats L-1 folks, please express intent to hammer so I can claim first if you are tempted to hammer.
This game is an example of why minimum experience requirements are a good idea if I've ever seen one. :erk:
So now I'm someone you would vote for, even though you have stated that you were ok with me, eh DH? And over such absurd reasoning as well. After re-reading, DH really looks the worse of the DH/Benmage conflict, and his sudden jump on me once I'm at L-1 is scummy as hell.
Vote: DemonHybrid
What's really bad about this is that he references the argument between Benmage and I but not once even quotes a single post from our argument to support his reasoning.
Looking at this post, I'm probably wrong about Benmage or split.
Preview edit: You know who also enjoyed watching films in the movie?
Hitler.-
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Elsa von Spielburg wrote:DemonHybrid wrote:How are you qualifying "starting off suspicion"? While, yes, Pappums was the first to vote for TF, tclaw quoted posted a "FoS" of TF (for basically the same reason) one post before pappums's jumped in to vote.
Did he? I may have missed it, let me go and check.
Posts 45 and 46.
Yeah, I know those are the posts you were referencing, but that doesn't mean tclaw started the suspicion. pappums FoSed a few posts before tclaw's.-
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Fuck it. I think that's a shitty breadcrumb, I think his "OH LOOK DH IS THE LOSER OF THE BENMAGE ARGUMENT" is bullshit, and I think he's trying to look wiser of the fact that he tried to make such a bad connection between obvtown ABR and a "1 shot SK".
Unvote, Vote: pappums rat
You were no longer "okay" since my own post I quoted and you lost your right to live after I stated that I was unsure about my read on you. If you end up being town, I take fault for it, but if you say that you come up with crazy theories as both scum and town and you try to dig dirt on me while trying to take a free ride at the same time without presenting evidence, then please go die.-
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pappums rat wrote:Well, at least my involvement in this debacle is over.
PEAC EOUT
p.s. I was town.
Well, maybe next time someone is undecided on you with you at L-1, you could actually take the time and convince them that their course of action is best used elsewhere instead of saying "YOU LOST AN ARGUMENT I WANST EVEN INVOLVED IN AND 1 SHOT SKs EXIST, SO I HATE YOU".
Might increase your chances of survival a bit.-
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pappums rat wrote:Sooooo opportunistic. Goddamn. And it's not like I was saying ABR is definately SK, I was saying lets not forget that this is a possibility and just write him off as confirmed town.
He claims bear jew, a 1-shot vig, and the kill flavor was.beaten to death with a bat
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And I like how you say opportunistic, even though I summarized what I've been saying for PAGES now into one post WITHOUT a request to claim. I thought it would have been obvious that I was waiting for either more evidence towards your lynch (since I wasn't that convinced that you were scum) or for you to actually defend yourself without resorting to "LOL SK, U LOST ARGUMENT, HEREZ A BREADCRUMB THAT COULD WORK FOR SHOSHANNA, MARCIEL, HITLER, HICOX, ZOLLER OR A MILLION OTHER CHARACTERS SINCE THE LAST HALF OF THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN A MOVIE THEATER", but you took the alternate route and you paid the price. I clearly stated that I was not sure about you and that I was waiting for more information and you fuck things up by referencing an argument in which you did not post ONCE about in the past.-
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You say I haven't said much to tclawren??? I haven't said much to many. I had things I personally wanted to ask split. I wanted to rail into drews vote which screams nooooooob...and oh yeah hazard has 2 posts!!! But for some reason you hammered.
You are SCUM.
If I die tonight lynch tclawren.
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Even if you wanted to lynch tclaw, that's a wagon that I presented evidence for and started, and you've been doing nothing but pushing a case against me. So...why lynch tclaw and not me?-
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Oh, never mind, I get it. Lynch me and then him. So you're lining up a lynch.-
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Vote: No Lynch
I didn't like pappums using an argument that he wasn't involved in at all to push a counter-lynch. It was the scummiest thing I've seen all thread, especially with the fact that I didn't state any new information from before. His reaction and logic after I posted that I wasn't sure and needed a case from both sides sealed the deal for me.
Hint: If you're going to use information from the thread, especially a claim like "you lost this argument", you better damn well have evidence to back it, especially when you're in a situation like that (L-1, lots of pressure, making up wild claims, etc)
Benmage, you have to answer for your last few posts. Why are you lining up lynches? Especially tclaw, who you've had almost no prior interactions with?-
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