Apparently I now need to read the rules with an actuarial table.
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Um... so far I haven't read anything besides page 19, but Ghostlin and LLD are town. Totally.
(that's actually serious)
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You scum, Grey-kun? ;-;
Ethos wrote:GI, do you have any knowledge of MS bidding on Ninja and succeeding or failing? I currently hold Governor and I have no intention of chucking a Benmage with it however if everyone believes it's best to burn it now I'll do so.
We're not lynching Ghostlin today, it's a big no-no, he has one more cop inspection. We let him use that tonight and then proceed to work forward from there depending on the answer to the question Seacore asks.
Ghostlin wrote:What inconsistency?
Either Midnight posted his bidmuchtoo late for it to matter, he's mistaken about the amount he bid, or he's lying about bidding (or what he bid for) Cop.
I don't see how me winning a bid when I bid $99+$1 on an auction means much of anything to alter the any of the three above since the mod just said the closing bid was correct.
Magua wrote:Ghostlin wrote:Mod: Was there an error? If you could fix my balance to show the correct amount, then maybe we can get this cleared up?
The ending bid of $95 for 1. Cop x 2 from D1 is correct.
Ghostlin wrote:I placed only one bid that day and that was to clean out everything for Cop: $99+ $1 fee. I don't know honestlywhythe bid only ended up at $95 if you bid $97 before deadline. I can't explain that.
Magua wrote:Breaking News
Midnight's Sorrow, Ghostlin have been prodded
Ghostlin wrote:I placed only one bid that day and that was to clean out everything for Cop: $99+ $1 fee. I don't know honestlywhythe bid only ended up at $95 if you bid $97 before deadline. I can't explain that.
Either Midnight posted his bid much too late for it to matter, he's mistaken about the amount he bid, or he's lying about bidding (or what he bid for) Cop.
I don't see how me winning a bid when I bid $99+$1 on an auction means much of anything to alter the any of the three above since the mod just said the closing bid was correct.
IceGuy wrote:GreyICE wrote:And Ethos, why the fuck are you asking me what powers the scum have?
I bid $97. Period. If it was won for $95, I should have gotten it.
This has the potential to be incredibly funny when the game is over, so...
Are you absolutely sure you/MS bid $97 BEFORE the deadline?
malpascp wrote:I said that heshouldbe the lynch for today. As you may have noticed, I said the same about HN.
Basically we just kill the person that 7 people think is scummy enough to have their vote. Sometimes it's just a timing issue. We have to analize all possible explanations for Ghostlin's bids, and all the possible outcomes and results of his (mis)lynch. Before that, I won't vote him, unless deadline gets really an issue.
I think it would be too much to scum to have that kind of manipulative abilities. More inicial money, more money each day, daytalk, ability to steal bids, and almost guaranteed NK on the first two days (due to the amount of money they have being much more that any townie; after D3, there might be some town players that can compete with scum for the NK)?
All-mighty scum doesn't fit here. 3 scum togheter would destroy town. Two scum teams would mean that the game is between them, and we are just background. It just doesn't fit the whole setup.
Ghostlin wrote:Bullshit. I know where Cop is. (WITH ME) I know it's been bid for. I know damn fucking well your replacements lying, and now you're back peddling to save your own ass. Lynch the scumbag, guys. Both of the replacements have been lurker scum that have been peddling hard to remove me. MS only asked to replace when caught in an obv lie, and bob had been lurking all day with no good input at all.
Really...did any of you read LLD's post...'I'll vote for Ghost tomorrow if we prove there's more than one scum team...' was the synopsis. Not a bloody likely bet unless she already knows the answer is going to be yes, and frankly that's her only justification to lynch the Cop anyway.
You know what I've been trying to do today, Grey? Trying to lynch the other obv liar in this town---but now that you've replaced in to liar MS's slot, you've accused me of doing the same and have the gall to say he told the truth all along. Guys--MS lied to you. HN lied to you. You lynch liars with fire. You don't make deals with them. You don't listen to what they have to say. You lynch them.
Bluntly, the only two reasons (besides not reading the thread) one would bid on NK at that point would be:
1) They believed hiphop was scum and outbid him to ensure he didn't have it.
2) They were scum either counterbidding or reestablishing their bid.
Newman said he didn't believe Hiphop was scum--yet is forcing him to spend more money to acquire NK?
Vote: HelloNewman
However, Icey's opportunism, particularly since there are plenty of good reasons to vote HN, reeks of scum--I would support an IG lynch.
PeregrineV wrote:Instead of the doctor declaring, there is the possibility that WLC bought NK and then was lynched and so it was unused.
Seacore wrote:I think we wait until tomorrow for the doctor to claim his/her targets. That way that doctor is all used up.
Actually, you're right. hiphop has the NK tonight, plus there's a watcher around.
I was the N1 Doctor. I targeted Red Coyote. I didn't think I'd win both that and the setup. I have little money now.
IceGuy wrote:
Unclaimed Love Potion and Vote Nullifier are worthless in LyLo, since they confirm the protected player as scum pretty much immediately. I agree with you on Extra Vote, since that can fuck town completely.
tl;dr: Ghostlin lynch, Newman NK.
Ethos wrote:Looking through the abilities and items auctioned for tommorow I believe we need to make sure conf town gets Night kill, Roleblocker and ability to be the only one who knows what the current bid is for all the auctions.
Ghostlin wrote:Really, guys. The bid manipulationtheoryis lame.Odds are GI's lying to us.
Ghostlin wrote:2) I won Cop with a $99 bid that I only used $95 of.I'm REALLY confused why.
hiphop wrote:If ghost flips town, do you still want me to nk you?
hiphop wrote:Ok, then. I understood the part afterwards, it just that I thought the cop auction was the reason you were pushing him. If that is the case, why would one of you or ghost be scum? Cop auction, or part after?GreyICE wrote:PEdit: It's not the fact the cop auction was fucked with. It's his flip-floppy wishy-washy behavior.
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ethos, your watcher power is going to be important tonight.
We have two threats. A potential scum DOCTOR and a potential scum RB.
PeregrineV wrote:GreyICE wrote:
I currently have $97, and a "paycheck" balance of $65 I can take a "payday loan" from.
In case you're not here tomorrow, it looks like you are a non-standard role. If you did not win, it also looks like you did not receive a wage. If that is the case, what is the source of your payday loan if you don't get a wage? Also, was that ability available day1?
Ethos wrote:No, we get a scum read to bid on it. Makes more sense. If anything, they will be out some money.
Ethos wrote:HHey Grey, was the name of your role still entrpenuer?
Seacore wrote:Guess I should have been in that game and town to help them do it right?
Seacore wrote:Okay, so I'm still waiting on Grey, Newman and Chaos for their transaction claims.
Hiphop, Pere and Mal all check out fine.
LLD, I'll wait until you get a response from Magua, but I have a couple of questions for when that happens.
Seacore wrote:I don't really, you talk about paychecks but that's about it, unless I'm missing it.
Seacore wrote:Do you get the same efficiency and start of day bonuses that we get?
Seacore wrote:You get that I'm not voting Voided, right? I don't have my vote anywhere right now.
Seacore wrote:GI, I hate your attitude. I play this game for fun and I'll play it however I please. I have won games doing stuff like this in the past. Analysing games and PR results. I scum hunt far better this way than by reading motivations. I also enjoy it. So you're not going to stop me from doing it.
I dislike the way you call people morons, I dislike the way you use Caps for no good reason. And I'm asking to stop.