Starcraft Mafia Mini 1210 (Over)

[DemonHybrid]

Hello.

And with that, I'm going to sleep. Any help with catching up will be grand, but I will have time to read through tomorrow night and I will come up with reads. 17 pages is more than enough.

[DemonHybrid]

Meetings all day. I'm trying to get time to catch up and I will, just be patient for a few hours, guys.

[DemonHybrid]

These are my reads.

Absolutely town:

Psyche
Vifam
Scott Brosius
HellooNewman
KJ

Meh:

kiwi
Iecerint
Scooby

Why the fuck aren't these people dead yet?:

Morthas
rewq
ESPEONAGE

VOTE: ESPEONAGE

Why this isn't a wagon, I have no clue. He is the definition of opportunistic and fluffy, just ISO him.

[DemonHybrid]

Psyche is paying very close attention to details and his scumhunting is right on point.

SB's intro post is golden.

Vifam is the most misrepresented player I've ever had the fortune of playing with. His early game play shows nothing but misinformed, confused and scared town play.

Helloo's claim is awesome due to the timing, details and confirmability, and his play has been pro-active as well, which unfortunately, got a bullshit and opportunistic wagon placed on him.

KJ's a gut feeling, so this may change. I know absolutely nothing about the three in the middle, but rewq is the definition of active lurking, Morthas is opportunistic, and Espeonage is a great and delicious combination of both.

Am I missing something? If so, please let me know, I did a skim because I plan on sleeping soon.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: Vifam

BANDWAGONZ

Overdone RVS post. Obviously picking the weakest player out of the bunch.

1. Nope. I'm just here for you.
2. Puppies are ok.
3. Alot
4. Sup

Not caring about his answers, too focused on other things other than providing information

Well it's almost 9pm here.

fluff

Vote:Morthas

for having three reasons for an RVS vote

Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?

luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.

attempt to look town, obvpsychetownlabeling town point scramble. attempt to put down his scumhunting ability as bad, when he's right.

Unvote, Vote: Morthas

opportunistic

woah shit. Game is now on my bookmarks.

fluff

Just got noobs in LoL so I have to wait 20 minutes at least before they forfeit after me leaving. (Seriously. They wanted Jax mid and bot to be the solo lane while WW was jungling. Idiots)

I'm not going to reread, that always ends in a bunch of IIoA. Instead I will look at current state of play. See who needs to be looked at and just comment and maybe iso.

attempt to justify lurking. fluff.

Unvote

I kept my vote on you as a test, to see how you would react.

You passed.

bullshit

Doesn't change that you're town just from that page.

attempt to look town

Vote: rewq

opportunsiticccccccccccccccccccccccc

I'll help. Let me do my own thing for a bit. I'll let you know if there is anything going on my head that needs to be shared. I'll pull an all-nighter on the weekend. I'm more talkative when I'm tired.

And tbh, this game sucks pretty bad. As far as I can tell you guys are getting caught up in stuff that doesn't matter. I see two separate arguments about wording of posts which is stupid.

avtive lurkging

Ok seriously. STFU ALL OF YOU.

Kiwi stop being a dipshit, Newman is town.

Go back, reread just a pae or two and look at your posts. Then look back at this one. Then look at Newman's most recent one. back at your posts. Look at me, and tell me you don't need to take a step back.

IF I HEAR ANYONE USE THE WORDS GRAMMAR, ROLE PM OR PROTOSS IN A CASE ABOUT ANYONE WHERE THESE WORDS AREN'T NEEDED I WILL NOT HESITATE TO VOTE THEM.

I remember why I started lurking this game -.-

trying to be the mediator and look town, nothing useful, actuvei lurkgijng

Morthas != girl.

I'd be much happier with a rewq lynch tbh. And I've only read three pages.

fluff luff lfuflfuluflufl FLUFF

Unvote, Vote: Vifam

OPPORTUSNISTICCCCCCCCCCCCCC

There was a mass nameclaim?

Matt Horner.

I KNOW IM OUTGUESSING THE MOD HERE BUT THIS IS A BAD CLAIM. I MAY NOT KNO ANYTHING ABOUT STARCRAFT BUT IF YOU PUT IN A BUNCH OF "EH COULD BE SCUM, THEYRE NEARLY VILLAINS" ROLES IN THE GAME AND THEN A HUMAN IN, AND THEN SPECIFY THAT THE CHARACTER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALIGNMENT, THIS IS A CLASSIC MOD META SWITCH AND MY GUESS IS THAT THIS SHITTY CLAIM MASKS SCUM

Lol. I was actually scummy that game I'll admit. Actually that was a bad game.

Anyways, How am I too scummy to be scum this game?

LOL

WHY ISN'T THERE A WAGON ON THIS GUY

[DemonHybrid]

Thus the game begins with two missing in confirmation. They will be given 48 hours.

Day 1 ends August 16th at 10:00 P.M. central time. My last piece of advice for this game is this:

Do NOT assume you can outsmart me.

I have a reputation of placing not so evil characters as Mafia type roles. Flavor should mean nothing!!!!!!!

hell, look at this.

just

look at it

You fucks will unvote Vifam this very moment and vote Espeonage or so help me god

[DemonHybrid]

Demonhybrid, I'd really like to lynch Vifam today. Your case on Espeonage is goodposting but not lynching Vifam because bastardmod (despite her scuminess) is idiotic.

I stated that Vifam is town, not because of his/her claim, but because of his/her early game play and general confusion. She/he isn't trying to hide anything and instead, seems generally confused in trying to figure everything out.

And Vifam, I know which game you're talking about. My Protoss = town theory was just that, a theory. If you got a town role PM and a non-Protoss name, I'd like you to name claim still. It won't necessarily mean you're anti-town, just that my theory could be wrong. Afterall, the mod did say this..

Alright, I'm down.


I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

The misspelling on his name claim = the name claim is definitely right.

Assuming DN says that anyone can be any alignment, it is assumed that scum do not have fakeclaims.

The "town watcher" part is up for debate, but I really think that this is just a discouraged and overwhelmed townie and the wagon on him is just absolutely bad.

[DemonHybrid]

Hi, why? EDIT: I am opportunistic? Tell me more.

You take very calculated shots at people who are not part of the main action. Your Stels vote, gbevil vote and kiwi votes all scream like you aren't pressuring the people that matter.

And for the record, there's a difference between mindless bandwagoning (i.e: Espe) and pressuring people that matter (i.e: Not targeting people who have no votes on them constantly)

What do you want me to explain about my reads? SB came in and voted Espeonage right off of the bat and presented a great case; he has not been opportunistic. Psyche is obviously paying close attention to detail and has been pressuring everyone and anyone for information and shows genuineness in trying to find information.

Thanks for the insult, very nice of you.
I agree about Espe, I thought his play was identical with my last game with him where he was mislynched as town but I went back and in his last game he posted much more content and even attempted scumhunting at some point. I would still prefer a Scott - Kiwi or a rewq lynch over him.

It wasn't an insult.

Morthas, this is why you're scummy. Why would you prefer an SB or KE lynch over the obviously scummy Espeonage after very clearly stating that you agree with how scummy he is?

[DemonHybrid]

I'm sorry, how does misspelling Overlord make it a valid claim when it's still the only non-name claim out of 12 players?

I just see it as a subconscious mistake after reading it directly from the PM.

This doesn't matter regardless. I firmly believe that scum do NOT have fakeclaims.

[DemonHybrid]

Maybe his role PM even has the word "Lookout" in it. Regardless, Vifam should NOT be lynched and those who go through with it will be prime suspects.

Espeonage, please. String him up.

[DemonHybrid]

Deadline extension please

[DemonHybrid]

I'd also like a

Deadline Extension

To anyone who still thinks my claim is fake, tell me why I decided to pick a UNIT instead of just clicking some random character in the the SC wiki?

ding ding ding ding ding

[DemonHybrid]

I'm sorry, how does misspelling Overlord make it a valid claim when it's still the only non-name claim out of 12 players?

I just see it as a subconscious mistake after reading it directly from the PM.

This doesn't matter regardless. I firmly believe that scum do NOT have fakeclaims.

Did you read my post a few pages back? My PM confirms Arcturus Mengsk is in this game. Nobody has claimed him. That would lead me to believe there are fakeclaims.

Actually, your role said that Arcturus Mengsk is scum, did it not?

My guess is that you are an auto-cop-guilty when someone claims that name. That does NOT mean that scum have fakeclaims.

[DemonHybrid]

Last: Does anyone want my name claim? I'm for it, but only if it's the consensus.

[DemonHybrid]

Last: Does anyone want my name claim? I'm for it, but only if it's the consensus.

You already claimed.

Pay attention.

I didn't ISO Stels extensively quite yet.

[DemonHybrid]

Also, if you guys want any knowledge of Starcraft flavor from me, you aren't getting it. I haven't played a single game of Starcraft in my entire life.

[DemonHybrid]

Guys, regardless of this careful sidestepping around the setup and DN's mod meta, I just don't think that the claim is scummy at all. MAYBE the role PM just happened to have an ability named "Lookout". Maybe he IS a unit, I don't know. I don't care. He misspelled his role name; it could have just been him copying that name directly from his role PM.

Vifam's play makes no sense from a scum perspective. He put himself in black sheep mode, like he said before, by claiming what he did. Even if he WAS a scum role named "Overlord", do you really think he would risk claiming a unit as opposed to a character with a name? Do you think he would claim anything but just "watcher"?

A lot of his lurking is null. He seems exhausted and as if he doesn't care about this game.

Why would ANY scum openly ask if someone is a lyncher if he has so much heat on him?

There is just TOO much grey area and too many "why would he" questions in regards to his play and claim for me to believe that he's scum. Espeonage is so obvious though. Absolutely obvious; you could say that my desire to switch the wagon onto Espe stems more from my desire to kill Espeonage, and less from my desire to defend Vifam. He is NOT for today, if at all.

[DemonHybrid]

Guys, you aren't going to sell me on a Vifam lynch.

RIGHT NOW, I will not vote for him. I don't care what you say. He looks town to me right now. Later? Who knows. I'm not a fortune teller, or else I'd kick all of your asses at this game.

What I AM sure of is that Espeonage

needs

to

die

[DemonHybrid]

Tell me, why would Raynor want to lynch an overlord?

This is a legitimate question. It does not make sense that this sort of set-up spec would occur to just-a-unit Vifam.

I acknowledge that Overlord is bizarre from multiple angles, yes.

DH, you've got Brosius's claim wrong. Brosius's PM says that Arcturus (his rolename's father of whom he is naively worshipful in flavor) is in the game. He wanted until everyone had claimed before claiming that information. The fact that no one claimed Arcturus is what makes Arcturus fakeclaim-hidden scum.

Alright. I guess this is convincing enough that there are fakeclaims.

I'm not seeing why there can't be a unit as a real claim, though.

[DemonHybrid]

On the way to my mums place. Will do something more substantial then.

Oh, trust me. I'm waiting on baited breath.

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[DemonHybrid]

#511 IS MADE OF RAINBOWS AND FANTASTIC

[DemonHybrid]

So who's close to being lynched?

[DemonHybrid]

So, he's L-3!



HOP ON EVERYONE THERES ROOM ENOUGH FOR ALL OF YOU, I SWEAR

[DemonHybrid]

uhhh did you even read #443

it was, like, all about you

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: Vifam

BANDWAGONZ

Overdone RVS post. Obviously picking the weakest player out of the bunch.

1. Nope. I'm just here for you.
2. Puppies are ok.
3. Alot
4. Sup

Not caring about his answers, too focused on other things other than providing information

Well it's almost 9pm here.

fluff

Vote:Morthas

for having three reasons for an RVS vote

Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?

luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.

attempt to look town, obvpsychetownlabeling town point scramble. attempt to put down his scumhunting ability as bad, when he's right.

Unvote, Vote: Morthas

opportunistic

woah shit. Game is now on my bookmarks.

fluff

Just got noobs in LoL so I have to wait 20 minutes at least before they forfeit after me leaving. (Seriously. They wanted Jax mid and bot to be the solo lane while WW was jungling. Idiots)

I'm not going to reread, that always ends in a bunch of IIoA. Instead I will look at current state of play. See who needs to be looked at and just comment and maybe iso.

attempt to justify lurking. fluff.

Unvote

I kept my vote on you as a test, to see how you would react.

You passed.

bullshit

Doesn't change that you're town just from that page.

attempt to look town

Vote: rewq

opportunsiticccccccccccccccccccccccc

I'll help. Let me do my own thing for a bit. I'll let you know if there is anything going on my head that needs to be shared. I'll pull an all-nighter on the weekend. I'm more talkative when I'm tired.

And tbh, this game sucks pretty bad. As far as I can tell you guys are getting caught up in stuff that doesn't matter. I see two separate arguments about wording of posts which is stupid.

avtive lurkging

Ok seriously. STFU ALL OF YOU.

Kiwi stop being a dipshit, Newman is town.

Go back, reread just a pae or two and look at your posts. Then look back at this one. Then look at Newman's most recent one. back at your posts. Look at me, and tell me you don't need to take a step back.

IF I HEAR ANYONE USE THE WORDS GRAMMAR, ROLE PM OR PROTOSS IN A CASE ABOUT ANYONE WHERE THESE WORDS AREN'T NEEDED I WILL NOT HESITATE TO VOTE THEM.

I remember why I started lurking this game -.-

trying to be the mediator and look town, nothing useful, actuvei lurkgijng

Morthas != girl.

I'd be much happier with a rewq lynch tbh. And I've only read three pages.

fluff luff lfuflfuluflufl FLUFF

Unvote, Vote: Vifam

OPPORTUSNISTICCCCCCCCCCCCCC

There was a mass nameclaim?

Matt Horner.

I KNOW IM OUTGUESSING THE MOD HERE BUT THIS IS A BAD CLAIM. I MAY NOT KNO ANYTHING ABOUT STARCRAFT BUT IF YOU PUT IN A BUNCH OF "EH COULD BE SCUM, THEYRE NEARLY VILLAINS" ROLES IN THE GAME AND THEN A HUMAN IN, AND THEN SPECIFY THAT THE CHARACTER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALIGNMENT, THIS IS A CLASSIC MOD META SWITCH AND MY GUESS IS THAT THIS SHITTY CLAIM MASKS SCUM

Lol. I was actually scummy that game I'll admit. Actually that was a bad game.

Anyways, How am I too scummy to be scum this game?

LOL

WHY ISN'T THERE A WAGON ON THIS GUY

quoted for your convenience

I like to grant last requests, so dont mention it

[DemonHybrid]

And you know, you haven't given a single opinion on anyone in pages soooooooooo

you know.

You haven't said a word to or about me, and I'm riding you like atreyu on falkor.

Your justification that "I had no suspicion before I was called out for lurking and now I'm L-2" is laughable

You need to hang.

[DemonHybrid]

lol
Stupid Questions deserve stupid answers. You're expecting to get something out of nothing. Important point for later.
Wooooooooooooooooosh. Which is funny considering you missed my point and delved very far into something that meant exactly what it said.
orly? why?
and?
Nope, just fluff. Which I followed up with some stuff.
Ah no. That is giving a town read. And telling him to be helpful. Hypocrisy is only a bad thing if you don't realise it is hypocrisy.
Hardly. I was second vote on the wagon. The people who started voting after me are the opportunistic ones there.
Nah just lurking. Your're trying to give me extra credit to make me look scummier.
comagain. No trying to get people to pull their hands out of their asses and try to do stuff. Something which I should have given up on earlier than I did.
No, try the phrase. Telling it like it is.
Look at the votecount at that point and what was the time before deadline. Don't be stupid.
k
wut

Way to misrep and dismiss to a mislynch.

PEDIT:
1. Haven't posted either.
2. See 1 and see this post.
3. Misrep. Go back and read what I said. That is not what I said.

Your playstyle seems uncommitted, fluffy and useless.

The deadline doesn't matter. You rarely posted and you rarely gave a solid read

all game

.

Think about this, I had no suspicion before I prod dodged. Hmm poke your head in, people realise ohey easy lynch les go. And there you go day 1 mislynch that scum can hide in because it was on a lurker. Happens to much these days.

= "I had no suspicion before I lurked, then I became an easy lynch". Which is the same thing I'm saying.

Your answers were terrible.

Basically, ISO yourself. You call a few people town reads. But who do you call scum?

It's not Morthas. You admit that it's the largest bandwagon, so you jumped on.

No, not rewq. You just said you'd be happy with his lynch. You post no reasoning.

Definitely not Vifam. Because you

JUST PLACED A CLOSE-TO-DEADLINE VOTE ON HIM AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT

So, you don't have a single scum read this game. And it's 21 pages.

[DemonHybrid]

I don't call anyone scum because

I have no scum reads.

I have no scum reads because I have not read the game. I have some town reads because they are bleedingly obvious.

Also no that is not what I am saying. I am saying that it's obviously a case of scum looking for a lynch that will stick see me poke my head in and realise they were stupid to not try and do exactly what you are doing earlier. "before I lurked" Tell me, when was I not lurking?

Right now, you are not lurking.

Every other post before the last 2 or 3 has been active lurking.

Not the answer you were looking for, was it?

21 pages. You've been in this game since the start.

July 25th.

And no scumreads. But you're perfectly happy to throw down like

4 or 5 town reads

, aren't you?

Wow, that seems almost inconsistent. Because it is.

[DemonHybrid]

Lets see.

"I haven't read the game, so I have no scum reads!"

Vote:Morthas

for having three reasons for an RVS vote

Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?

luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.

Looks like you were reading the game here.

Unvote

I kept my vote on you as a test, to see how you would react.

You passed.

bullshit

Doesn't change that you're town just from that page.

And this quote, too!

Ok seriously. STFU ALL OF YOU.

Kiwi stop being a dipshit, Newman is town.

Go back, reread just a pae or two and look at your posts. Then look back at this one. Then look at Newman's most recent one. back at your posts. Look at me, and tell me you don't need to take a step back.

IF I HEAR ANYONE USE THE WORDS GRAMMAR, ROLE PM OR PROTOSS IN A CASE ABOUT ANYONE WHERE THESE WORDS AREN'T NEEDED I WILL NOT HESITATE TO VOTE THEM.

I remember why I started lurking this game -.-

You read here, as well!

I don't call anyone scum because I have no scum reads.
I have no scum reads

because I have not read the game. I have some town reads because they are bleedingly obvious.

"Bleedingly obvious" doesn't cut it. You should have scum reads that are "bleedingly obvious".

No reasoning for your town "reads". You say they're bleedingly obvious.
No reasoning for your scum "reads". You say you have no scum reads.

Hm.

[DemonHybrid]

DH for the case on me. I've pointed out why it looks scum motivated.

[DemonHybrid]

Finally nice to see that you're out of RVS, Espeonage.

[DemonHybrid]

Funny, didn't seem that way to me.

I notice you aren't voting me, seeing as how the Vifam lynch isn't viable any longer and you have a scum read. Don't you? Or was that a lie?

[DemonHybrid]

Don't worry, he's still going to flip scum.

Lol that I had to remind him to vote me though

[DemonHybrid]

can espy die

his only case on anyone is that my case on him is bad and his vote for me was an afterthought "oh shit" moment

[DemonHybrid]

I wanna lynch Morthas tommorow.

Yep, me too.

[DemonHybrid]

I'd ask for a flip, but I pretty much already know espy is going to flip scum

protip, mafia: you should kill me tonight due to me being a threat

Morthas and rewq are still dat scummy scummy until I'm convinced otherwise

[DemonHybrid]

Success =3

Vote: Morthas

[DemonHybrid]

HEY EVERYONE THE PARTY IS OVER ON THE MORTHAS WAGON, COME JUMP ON

[DemonHybrid]

EVERYONE'S INVITED TO REWQ'S HOUSE FOR THE AFTERPARTY

[DemonHybrid]

And now I just sit and party

[DemonHybrid]

Oh, if there's a watch target on me or something, please let us know now who, if anyone, visited me. It's

very

important.

[DemonHybrid]

Iecerint, this may shed some light on things:

I have a power that keeps a person who I target from switching sides. My passive is that no one can force me to do an action or switch sides.

If that makes any sense at all to you, let me know. For a while, I thought I was the one that was targeted with a side switching action, but since you mentioned that...

[DemonHybrid]

Iecerint, kiwi, Scott are all close to confirmed town to me.

That leaves...

ooba
Morthas
Scooby
Vifam
rewq455
ShadowDancer

Morthas and rewq should obviously go first. I doubt it's ShadowDancer based on Psyche's play, and I doubt it's Vifam. If not any of those two or we're missing one of them, Scooby and ooba.

[DemonHybrid]

There is no scum motivation to claim that role along with a breadcrumb like that. It may be an iffy town play, but it practically confirms kiwi to me.

Iece should reply to my statement before you ask him a bunch of questions.

[DemonHybrid]

I targeted you. I can't believe I forgot to mention that.

[DemonHybrid]

erryday im shufflin

PARTY IS BACK ON

[DemonHybrid]

It just says I'm Edmund Duke and I can protect someone from switching sides. I'm protected from being forced to do anything, and I'm protected from being forced to switch sides. I targeted you last night because I found you townish.

[DemonHybrid]

I was expecting the alignment switching or side switching whatever to be placed on me after I requested the mafia to kill me.

[DemonHybrid]

I know not a thing about Starcraft lore, so you could tell me that Edmund Duke liked to eat babies and I'd believe you.

[DemonHybrid]

Curiously, my passive says that I cannot be targeted by "recruiting" powers, so I'm assuming that the mafia have the power to recruit someone.

Perhaps that's what happened to Iece, and perhaps that's why his alignment didn't change.

[DemonHybrid]

So, about this Morthas lynch...

[DemonHybrid]

is it...you know...happening?

Because that'd be pretty chill.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote:Morthas for having three reasons for an RVS vote

Who said it's random? 3 reasons = genuine.

...... touche
UNVOTE: Morthas

The whole thing with Vifam saying town v town doesnt seem like it means much this early in the game

@kiwiwagle- why would you vote morthas for some stupid argument about your wiki, when you just said you are getting bad vibes from Vifam saying the argument between Stels and Morthas?

Quick hop off of someone who I find very scummy

*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.

....just went through Morthas's posts. He never voted you.... That is my contribution to that discussion. New topic?

Defense of him

*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.

....just went through Morthas's posts. He never voted you.... That is my contribution to that discussion. New topic?

WTF am I smoking lol. You never said he voted you. Am tired sorry.

But backed away from it when you were in the wrong

VOTE: Vote:Acronach for not even confirming yet.

Useless person to put your vote on. Tried to look pro-town doing it, but you were not interested in looking for scum.

Why do the accumulation of your posts all sound like "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say to me comes back to you"?

Why don't you ISO me and read my posts? I have only defended myself in one post, so that is the only one which you can describe as an "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say to me comes back to you" response. Last time I checked, 1/10 is not enough to make a generalization like that.
I decided to ISO you. Post 1 is you answering the questions. Posts 2-4 are you justifying lurking. Post 5 is you giving a relatively unjustified vote on me. Post 6 is you avoiding justifying your vote on me. Avoiding justification is in no case pro-town. Anyone else agree?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: HellloooNewman

Fired back at him when he started to put pressure on you. Not liking this.

UNVOTE: Acronach

In fact, you even forgot that you were voting for him. What does that say about your sincerity?

just realized I unvoted Acronach twice... kiwi referenced a post from further back than i expected and forgot that I had unvoted

oops

You did eventually, but not at the start when he originally commented on it. You just said wiki.... (but you have no wiki page, lol).

That was me...

*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.

....just went through Morthas's posts. He never voted you.... That is my contribution to that discussion. New topic?

WTF am I smoking lol. You never said he voted you. Am tired sorry.

Scumslip?

VOTE: Vote:Acronach for not even confirming yet.

Not confident where to place your vote, so you place it on someone who can't defend himself in any way at this point. A blank and unnecessary vote.

UNVOTE: Morthas
VOTE: rewq455

I was trying to check and see if he was lurking...

uh, oops

Someone who is unconfirmed would not typicaly be accussed of lurking. Just checking to see if he was there, was not thinking, once the futility was pointed out i unvoted. Look at my previous games. My meta is that i tend to switch votes often and never really be sure about it. Games are in my wiki.

yeah okay

From this fight, gb is the scummier of the two tbh.


But I would still prefer a Vifam lynch.

Reasons?

Let's quasi-defend the not-so-obvious but-really-is townie

Voting somebody who claims to be able to confirm protoss roles? That makes me think you are lying about yours.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: kiwieagle

Actually, I got the same vibes kiwi got on Newman. There was some hard cognitive dissonance between these two posts.

Okay, zero flavor knowledge here.

How is one player being "protoss" make them believe that another player claims the same?

"Unnecessary" quotations around the word protoss, as if he's never ever heard the term before...

I am Artanis and I am town. I am told that I trust all Protoss', and if I target them at night, I will be unable to perform my action on them (due to trusting them). I will instead learn their name.

This is actually quite helpful now that 2 Protoss' have claimed. I can tell you if they are lying or not.

Unvote - Rewq

But the word itself is mentioned in his role PM. Beyond that, while I don't know if he's fake-claiming or not, I'm just saying an investigative role such as this isn't a bad fake-claim if he were scum. That is to say, he could easily fake it by confirming the names of any town, and quite possibly outting some scum to clear his own name. The only way he's going to prove his role in my mind is if he gives the flavor-name of a town BEFORE they do, and they [the town] confirms his investigation is correct.

And Vifam, I know which game you're talking about. My Protoss = town theory was just that, a theory. If you got a town role PM and a non-Protoss name, I'd like you to name claim still. It won't necessarily mean you're anti-town, just that my theory could be wrong. Afterall, the mod did say this..

Do NOT assume you can outsmart me.

I have a reputation of placing not so evil characters as Mafia type roles. Flavor should mean nothing!!!!!!!

The problem with this plan though is that he can just choose a scum member and make-up a role then the scum member will confirm it.

Because my PM gave my name (Artanis) and the fact that I was town. It did not say Artanis, Protoss, or Artanis Templar, or anything of the sort.

Wait...Yeah. I'm throwing my vote back up. In #209 he explicitly mentioned "Protoss" was in his role ability. And now he say it isn't.

VOTE: HelloNewman

Good Catch.

UNVOTE: Kiwieagle
VOTE: HellllllloNewman

you seemed so absolutely uncommitted to this wagon all game.


oh, and by the way

So who's close to being lynched?

This pretty much sums up your ISO.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Espeonage

this is the first time you've mentioned espeonage all game

food for fucking thought

Here is my full claim:

Name: Fenix (he is in the first game and brood wars which i havent played so anything i can tell you flavor-wise is from a wiki. He is protoss so cannot be the leader of the raiders.)

Ability: After death I can cast One vote at any point later in the game, and then I can also remove it. After I looked over the wiki I saw that after he dies he is made into a Dragoon so he can continue fighting. This is the only thing I've read about him that works with this power flavor-wise

This is probably a true claim. One thing that is missing is the alignment, however.

That's pretty much the gist of it. Espy's flip really solidifies my read on you like wet cement in the sun.

[DemonHybrid]

You have your work cut out for you. Have fun. Especially that Espy part of it.

[DemonHybrid]

Morthas, do you want one, too?

[DemonHybrid]

WELL TOO BAD YOU'RE GETTING IT

HERE IS THE TRAILER TO

"MORTHAS IS FUCKING SCUMMY: THE MOVIE PART II"

I am slowly becoming a fan of Psyche, this is way stronger than anything we got on rewq

I've already responded to all points in Psyche's case, so vote me if you find it convincing. I have nothing else to say. I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway.

This post, right after Psyche's case on him is especially scummy.
I find saying ''I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway" Without saying anything beforehand scummy since as town you'd want to help town as much as possible before the mislynch (From his POV) and not act as if you don't care, the fact that his activity has dropped astoundingly after that is also interesting.
VOTE: gbevil

unvote

VOTE: Gbevil

If no one likes the Vifam case, then on to my second suspect.
Eagles eat kiwis

wtf? This post is "Oh can't lynch a, so let's go lynch b". Wagonjumping much? ISO TIIIIIIIMEEEE~~~~

FoS Kiwi

You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?

Here is my full claim:

Name: Fenix (he is in the first game and brood wars which i havent played so anything i can tell you flavor-wise is from a wiki. He is protoss so cannot be the leader of the raiders.)

Ability: After death I can cast One vote at any point later in the game, and then I can also remove it. After I looked over the wiki I saw that after he dies he is made into a Dragoon so he can continue fighting. This is the only thing I've read about him that works with this power flavor-wise

Now why as scum would you claim with a Beyond the grave ability?

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

That's crap reason to vote someone while there are 2 very strong wagons going on atm.

FoS Stels

WOW DID YOU REALLY VOTE SOMEONE AND THEN THROW SUSPICION ON TWO PEOPLE IN A ROW IN THE SAME POST

Espe...?

I mean, explain?

KIND OF A FREUDIAN SLIP THERE EH

I agree about Espe, I thought his play was identical with my last game with him where he was mislynched as town but I went back and in his last game he posted much more content and even attempted scumhunting at some point. I would still prefer a Scott - Kiwi or a rewq lynch over him.

OH REALLY

LETS TRY TO SET UP ESPEONAGE UP FOR A LYNCH IF NEED BE BUT PROTECT HIM AT THE SAME TIME

Esp's defense is shit. We ain't going to lynch anyone else so I'll just drop the hammer.
VOTE: Esp

YEAH IT'S OKAY TO BUS NO WORRIES

[DemonHybrid]

Coming September 2011 to a mafia game near you

[DemonHybrid]

Stop trying to lynch Vifam, all of you. He is bad town right now because he is new. He says bad things.

Please tell me what scum motivation there is behind blatantly calling someone a lyncher.

[DemonHybrid]

Caught scum trying to discredit the attacker?

Are you seriously that naive?

I bet you didn't even look at my rewq or Morthas cases at all, but that's okay, because you're scooby.

hint: there is no fucking scum motivation behind calling someone a lyncher and bringing nothing but negative attention your way. Vifam isn't good. He's new.

[DemonHybrid]

Iecerint, did you forget about fakeclaims? I'm not doubting the ability, however.

And scooby, please point out where I said he's town BECAUSE he is new. I said that there's no scum motivation behind his actions. I don't understand why you want him dead so badly.

[DemonHybrid]

Because she claimed overlord in a game where everyone has character names.

Why would scum do this instead of using a fakeclaim?

Because of her 34 posts, 12 posts are fluff. (go check it if you don't believe me).

That leaves 22 posts of content. That's much better than some of the stuff I pointed out. Even if he did post a lot of fluff, none of it is specifically scum motivated.

Because her stances contradict each other on critical points of the game:

- 1 is a contradiction with your previous stance on rewq: you said you didnt agree with rewq scum in iso10 but then you voted him in iso 13 and to L-1!.
- 1 is an overreaction to the race vs race theory that made you fullclaim when no one asked you to (trying to look town with a power role that fits your fakeclaim). iso 19
- 1 is a blatant lie

("everybody is asking you to claim")

, since you were the only one asking rewq to fullclaim, iso 23.
- 1 is another contradiction with your previous stance on Espe: you said you didn't see him a scum in 27. Once you got the support for DemonHybrid, you somehow forgot what you said about him.

She went lurking mode, (she had posts on other games on the site) and started posting once you came up in the game and declared her noob town.

1. rewq is legit scummy. Reads change. I'd probably feel the same had Vifam contradicted his stance on someone who was obviously more town.
2. A pre-emptive full claim is a solid null tell, especially from someone who is newer, and especially after people have been name claiming.
3. I can't speak for him. Maybe that's a lapse in memory in what he believed, but the other evidence doesn't stack.
4. I posted a huge case. At least Vifam mentioned Espy before I posted the huge case, and I find that enough. I'm glad I got to change his read.
5. He was wagoned hardcore before I came in and posted the case on Espeonage. Don't you think that might be a person giving up (something that's also a null tell)? I do it often when I'm fed up with people not believing what I have to say and wagon me when I'm doing nothing but telling the truth.

[DemonHybrid]

Dude, seriously, just lynch Morthas. Trust my read on him. His stance on Espy was WAY fishier than Vifam's, and we have confirmed scum in Espy.

[DemonHybrid]

I'll trust you and leave rewq alone for now.

Morthas still needs rope. Maybe it's just two scum who can recruit one other.

[DemonHybrid]

Vifam, who DID you target last night?

[DemonHybrid]

Vifams claim of watcher may have been why I didn't die and Iecerint had some sort of forced action attempt performed on him.

Is that enough proof?

[DemonHybrid]

I'm still out for Morthas' blood. We COULD do that and not even worry about scooby.

Good work, Vifam. You did well. Vifam is credit to team!

[DemonHybrid]

the lack of Morthas talk disturbs me GREATLY

[DemonHybrid]

I'm doing some speculation.

Mafia: 2 players who can recruit one other.

Night 1: Vifam watched me.
I protected Iecerint.
Mafia 1 killed KJ.
Mafia 2 tried to recruit Iecerint. He got a message saying that his role PM changed but not his alignment (his alignment may have changed had I not protected him)

Because of this, Mafia's ability MAY be 1-shot.

I don't think there's an SK.

SB's role + my role + Iecerint's role + Vifam = enough town power that everyone else left is probably vanilla.

I'll leave rewq alone.

1. He's considerably less scummy than Morthas
2. Espy/2nd scum (probably Morthas) would never have recruited him in fear that he'd be lynched. They didn't want to touch me due to the watch. Me being completely unaffected should clear Vifam.

Iecerint being targeted should clear him. SB's role flavor should clear him. My play should clear me.

That leaves:

Morthas
rewq?
Scooby
ooba
kiwi
Shadowdancer

Assuming it's just the one scum left, we have plenty of time to go through this list.

VIFAM SHOULD BE CONFIRMED, SHOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT I WAS NOT TOUCHED BY THE KILL ACTION OR RECRUIT ACTION. THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE TOWN POWER.

Vote Morthas, please.

[DemonHybrid]

@DemonHybrid: It si just plain embarrassing how you take every claim at face value - hint: Scum vifam would be lying about his night action and you do not have nearly enough information to justify any of your speculations.

This is likely an all-power, definitely a very power heavy game. Every speculation that is based on most of the players being vanilla is absolute bogus.
Assuming that there are only 2 scum in a game this size with power roles is likewise bullshit.
And I believe that very possibly you or any one else was targeted by a kill which was doced or roleblocked and that unless we see at lest another night with only one kill we cannot safely assume that there's only one killing faction/role in the game and definitely we cannot clear any one based on that assumption.
Even if you think there is no SK there might be a vig or something else... Iec's claim suggests that factions in this game aren't exactly straight forward.

"Speculation".

We're

not

lynching Vifam.

[DemonHybrid]

I expect you to at least read the case I posted on Morthas and heavily consider his actions toward Espeonage scummy.

[DemonHybrid]

Morthas isn't dead yet?

[DemonHybrid]

So yeah, feeling bad for neglecting this so i'm going to post tomorrow or something.

oh, are you

[DemonHybrid]

Hey, two more votes please?

[DemonHybrid]

The fact that Vifam is a prime candidate for a lynch and my case on Morthas is being largely ignored along with the fact that Morthas' reply was just feverish explanations for bad behavior and snark makes me fucking angry.

[DemonHybrid]

Wake me up when you guys grow fucking brains.

[DemonHybrid]

The fact that you don't even know Vifam is male even though he's said it about 500 times shows how much you read up on Vifam.

[DemonHybrid]

A cult recruiter doesn't make sense in a fucking mini theme. Now vote Morthas.

[DemonHybrid]

I said I couldn't be recruited or

forced to do anything

.

[DemonHybrid]

My overdue response to DH's case on me:

Response to my getting off Morthas early: It was RVS. I unvoted as a joke.

Response to my conversation with avasthearties: I confused to cases, backed off when i realized I was confused. What is scummy there? Why would I keep pushing a lynch I knew I was pushing because of confusion?

Response to my voting Acronach: I'm not sure what i was doing then. I saw some logic in voting him and felt the need to defend it.

Response to my firing back at Newman: A vote on someone without justification is scummy and I called him on it. In response, he made a joke. Is this not scummy?

Response to me asking Kiwi for justification of his vote: A vote on someone without justification is scummy. I asked him to post some.

Response to my not mentioning Espeonage: He wasn't doing anything that drew my attention. After you pointed him out, I ISOd him and saw that all he was doing was wagonning, so I voted.

Wow. How absolutely underwhelming.

However, you're lucky that Morthas needs to die today. Why don't you be a good man and vote him?

[DemonHybrid]

DemonHybrid could be a cultee defending his own cultmaster (vifam)

[DemonHybrid]

Mod: Is a cult possible in this game? Feel free to not answer if you can't.

Maybe you guys will finally fucking realize that there's a bigger chance that it's a lesser number of scum with a recruiting option rather than the completely unfathomable mafia + CULT

CULT

IN A MINI THEME GAME

possibility, which isn't a possibility at all.

[DemonHybrid]

That doesn't mean that there's specifically a cult. Like I said, there could be two mafia with a recruiting mechanic.

[DemonHybrid]

JUST playing brood war does not mean that he knows much about the SC universe, especially when people said that he sucked at it and should stop playing.

Is there a vig out there that wants to vig Vifam? Go the fuck ahead. But we are voting for and lynching Morthas today.

[DemonHybrid]

You know what, fine. You want to lynch the fucking watcher?

Unvote, Vote: Vifam

Be my fucking guest, chief.

I said to vig Vifam because I wasn't going to vote him anytime soon and vigging is a common tactic of getting rid of someone who is acting stupidly and, in some peoples' opinions, scummy. But you guys want your way? Go ahead. I want to take a bath in your failure.

I WANT EVERYONE IN THEIR NEXT POST TO PROMISE ME THAT WE WILL FUCKING LYNCH MORTHAS TOMORROW AFTER THIS STUPID SHITTY TOWN LYNCH GOES THROUGH OR ELSE I WILL TAKE MY VOTE OFF.

[DemonHybrid]

I mean, seriously. When I have idiots starting to bring up possibilities of us being CULT buddies in a game where there's already mafia in a mini theme...goddammit, this site has gone to shit.

[DemonHybrid]

I MEAN, THERE IS A GODDAMN REASON WHY I WASN'T KILLED, AND IT IS BECAUSE EITHER THEY FEARED A WATCHER OR WANTED TO RECRUIT ME. THIS IS MAFIA THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

IT

IS

NOT

ROCKET

SCIENCE.

I will check back now and then to see if you guys are doing what I say and promising the Morthas lynch. Otherwise, I'm not posting anymore today except to prod dodge so you can all suck it.

[DemonHybrid]

SCREW YOU GUYS


I'M GOIN HOME

[DemonHybrid]

I'll take that as a promise.

Vifam or Morthas. I don't care at this point, because I know Morthas is going to die.


right


Right?

RIGHT

[DemonHybrid]

prod dodge.

[DemonHybrid]

bwehhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Hi, Frank.

[DemonHybrid]

My opinion on this game has not changed much, so here's a completely unrelated picture of a dog in a hot dog costume.

[DemonHybrid]

V/LA until Tuesday

Were in a state of emergency and have no water, electricity or any food but salad until Tuesday. Sorry.

[DemonHybrid]

Okay, so the generator came on. We have the power and internet, but no water and low food, so expect me still on V/LA. I'll post if I need to answer something or make a huge accusation but it wont be every day.

[DemonHybrid]

Page 5

gbevilchaos

Scott Brosius is scum

Vote: Scott

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

[DemonHybrid]

Morthas still continues to be absolutely obvious. And I will laugh at all of you when Vifam flips town.

ooba just made me headdesk pretty hard though

[DemonHybrid]

Demon, I just say this once: If you cannot deal with not not every one following you like little puppies in any halfway mature way I'll just entirely ignore anything you might say.

Ooba's reads are absolutely unusable... I hope there's going to come something with a bit more context and stuff.... I am particularly curious about that Scott-vote.

RED CONTRADICTS BLUE

[DemonHybrid]

well, if it's going to be vifam or morthas, there's no point discussing one vs the other. Just hammer vifam and lynch the obvious town watcher. I'm excited to feel the angst radiating off of you fools.

[DemonHybrid]

With absolute fucking pleasure, ooba.

Unvote, Vote: Morthas

Kiwi still thinks there's a cult haha

[DemonHybrid]

Kiwi still thinks there's a cult haha

1. My wincon is mod-confirmed (to me) modifiable.
2. The Mod implied that more than one role might be capable of said modification.

Thus your implicit thesis that wincon-modding roles require more elaborate bastard advertisements must be incorrect.

THAT

DOESN'T

MEAN THAT THERE IS A CULT!

Did everyone forget about the part where I said there's a high chance that it's just mafia being able to select another partner on their own?!

[DemonHybrid]

VIFAM IS A MALE.

Anyone who calls him a "she" obviously hasn't read his posts. See, that's the funny part about this game.

[DemonHybrid]

The avatar confuses me but I like how you dismiss all my points with a mistake.

I didn't dismiss your points. We've actually talked about them all of Day 2 and I've said my peace about Vifam.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm still here talking to you.

I think that's evidence enough. Iece's claim that he had a switched role makes me believe that I was not targeted by EITHER a wincon changing or killing role, and because of that, I believe that they were AFRAID of a watcher.

[DemonHybrid]

Iece's claim gives me the feeling that HE was the one that was targeted by the wincon changing action and my protect prevented that.

Kerrigan being or not being in the game has nothing to do with a confirmed cult in the game. The mod said that the flavor was nonguessable and bastard.

I countered Shadow's point with mine. That's what I believe.

Like I said: Morthas or Vifam. Fucking. Pick. One. I don't care which at this point, because either way, Morthas is dying and I'll be right.

[DemonHybrid]

Unvote, Vote: Vifam

NOW, if I die during the night, I WILL BE ROLLING IN MY GRAVE IF YOU GUYS DONT LYNCH MORTHAS SO HELP ME GOD.

You can have your obvtown lynch.

[DemonHybrid]

VIFAM CLAIMED A ZERG OVERLORD?
LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LOL
THATS SO SCUMMY

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY SINCE FREAKING DAY 1.

I think (at least, I hope, or I will castrate myself in hopes of not bringing a child into this mad world) that Frank was being sarcastic.

[DemonHybrid]

Unvote: Morthas

Vote: Iecerint

Oh great mafia god, please bless us with your eternal wisdom!

[DemonHybrid]

Unvote, Vote: Morthas

, by the way. I totally agree with #844.

[DemonHybrid]

Holy shit, I never did. I can basically get immune to night actions but not in consequence. Not sure if I should say if I did last night, pros-cons anyone? Kind of busy to think.

Uh, say that again, but in English. What do you mean by not in consequence, is it an X shot?

[DemonHybrid]

VIFAM CLAIMED A ZERG
ZERG ARE THE MOST EVIL OF EVILS
WOW.
LYNCH
FUCKING
ZERG.

frank being frank.

[DemonHybrid]

I understand.

So...basically, you can become immune to any night actions on non-consecutive nights?

[DemonHybrid]

a zerg OVERLORD.

Shut up.

[DemonHybrid]

BUT

BUT GUYS

GUYS

BUT GUYS

HES


HES



A ZERG OVERLORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH NOES LYNCH HIM

[DemonHybrid]

BUT

BUT GUYS

GUYS

BUT GUYS

HES


HES



A ZERG OVERLORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH NOES LYNCH HIM

[DemonHybrid]

Wow, I have no clue why that posted twice.

[DemonHybrid]

Frank and scooby, since you obviously don't get it,

Espeonage claimed a different character and flipped a different Mafia character.

Vifam CLAIMED OVERLORD. WHY WOULD SCUM CLAIM OVERLORD WHEN SCUM HAS A FAKE CLAIM

SERIOUSLY WHY DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH VIFAM

THAT IS STUPID.

[DemonHybrid]

Lol. I'm not moving my vote from Morthas.

The fact that you're pushing a Vifam lynch solely on flavor when the game was advertised as bastard-flavor is fail. It's a red herring role and he will flip town. Do what you want.

Tell me, Mr. ooba.

WHAT IS THE FUCKING PROTOWN THING VIFAM HAS DONE THE WHOLE GAME?

Seriously, go ISO HIM.

This is not a fucking LYNCH for flavor. This is a lynch for DIESCUMDIESDUMSUCKDIESCUMDIE.

Frank and scooby, since you obviously don't get it,

Espeonage claimed a different character and flipped a different Mafia character.

Vifam CLAIMED OVERLORD. WHY WOULD SCUM CLAIM OVERLORD WHEN SCUM HAS A FAKE CLAIM

SERIOUSLY WHY DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH VIFAM

THAT IS STUPID.

It's pretty CLEAR Vifam is not scum with Espeonage, specially since Vifam hammered without a claim. We don't know for sure he has a fakeclaim but what we know is that she is SCUMMY as fuck.

Seriously, this is fucking ROAD TO ROME or what?

If you know that scum has fakeclaims, you can be sure that "cult" (I still laugh at the fact that that term is being used in this game) has a fakeclaim and wouldn't be forced to fucking claim overlord.

Frank's only case is "LOL HE CLAIMED OVERLROD LYFNFHF HUISHFIOSHFUSHI"

You pointed out some more things, but that may just be dumb play.

Does no one do nightkill analysis nowadays or what

[DemonHybrid]

DH is defending her scumbuddy imo
after we lynch vifam or morthas (id rather get zerg scum than terran, since we already hit one terran)

Shut up. We went through all of this.

[DemonHybrid]

Easily could have been a doctor save. Kerrigan is definitely in this game as scum. Is the Overmind scum with her? We shall only see. I feel like we should save morthas for later on, in case they have a "be the last scumteam alive" win condition

"overmind"

Lol, you don't even know the claim that you're voting over

[DemonHybrid]

can someone plz hammer so then I can tell DH "i told you so"

No, it'll be more like I told YOU so.

THE NUMBERS DON'T MAKE SENSE WITH A CULT

I am LITERALLY just banging my head against the desk here. You know what's funny about this whole situation? There could be a Kerrigan AND SHE COULD EVEN BE TOWN

And why is that? Because DeathNote SPECIFICALLY SAID that ANY character could be ANY alignment and I'm betting that with 1. The Overlord claim and 2. despite the fact that scum have fakeclaims.

Could Kerrigan even be aligned with Mengsk? YES. THAT IS POSSIBLE.

Could Infested Kerrigan be town? YES. THAT IS POSSIBLE.

With that in mind, WHY WOULD VIFAM CLAIM A SCUMMY NAME IF SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIMS?

NONE OF YOU ARE LISTENING. THIS IS DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMBDUBMDUBMDUBMDUBMDUB DBUM.

DUMB.

[DemonHybrid]

Seriously, if there's an Overlord, it could be any alignment. If there's a Kerrigan, Infested or not, it could be

say it with me

ANY ALIGNMENT

you guys are going off the confirmation bias that I and Iecerint have information that wincons can change DESPITE THE FACT that alignment changing in regards to -cult-

has not been confirmed or hinted to at all

.

There can be alignment changing WITHOUT cult.

iogfewjtiowejtiwaow!~

[DemonHybrid]

You know what IS possible? A recruiting NON-CULT third party (like a 1-shot recruiting survivor/SK or something). I can SEE that happening. We don't have enough NK information to confirm or deny that at the moment, but it's a possibility and FUNNILY ENOUGH

FUNNILY ENOUGH

NO ONE HAS BROUGHT THAT UP.

But WHY WOULD THAT PERSON BE VIFAM, CLAIMING AN OBVZERG NAME

CHRIST PEOPLE YOU MJADE ME DO STARCRAFT RESERARCH FOR THIS.

If MENGSK HAD A FAKECLAIM, THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE

even someone as inexperienced as vifam

TAKE THAT CHANCE AND RISK THEIR WINCON OVER A STUPID DECISION

FLSKOPGSKOP

[DemonHybrid]

BUT HERE

UNVOTE, VOTE: VIFAM

I'LL JOIN YOU FOR THE STUPID PARTY AND EAT DUMB CAKE AND DRINK DERP TEA

I don't CARE who it is

as long as Morthas DIES

And if Morthas does not die either today or tomorrow I am goinng to just jfiogwajfiwjaiofaiejgehevrguihdghihiulghdi

and you do NOT want me to oipafjpoasjfoisajfisaugdiuhiighiudgifghidfs.

Preview edit: Have you? Which posts? I probably missed them in a readthrough o_o

Alluding and stating are two different ballgames by the way, so I need to know.

[DemonHybrid]

Unvote

so that I can hear this.

[DemonHybrid]

I didn't hammer Vifam. He was L-2.

[DemonHybrid]

I heard the word "cult" being thrown around a LOT.

I agree with Kerrigan being in here but I am NOT ruling out mafia or third party 1-shot recruiter (survivor or SK).

Everyone has name claimed, which pretty much confirms Kerrigan being scum but no one claims Overlord to mask a Kerrigan claim. That's fucking laughable.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote Count:

Morthas-

Scott Brosius, Iecerint ooba (L-3)

Iecerint

scooby (L-5)

Scooby-

Vifam (L-5)

Vifam-

ShadowDancer, Morthas, Kiwieagle, Furcolow (L-2)

Not voting

- DemonHybrid

With ten alive, its six to lynch

Deadline September 18

The is going to end in a deadlock. SD, Kiwi, Furclow, scooby are being stubborn even though
- Play clearly suggests Vifam isn't scum with Espeonage (Interactions) and all of you seem to agree on that
- If Vifam is cult, you're saying
-- DN gave cult the worst fakeclaim possible just so that it would stick out amongst other claims. Also the can't vote mechanic which clearly implicates Kerrigan cult.
-- DN added a Cult+Mafia in a mini but restricted the game size to 12 players??

Please compromise and lynch Morthas. We're heading towards a no-lynch.

Vote: Morthas

[DemonHybrid]

I haven't grappled with it because it'd be useless to grapple with it. It's WIFOM to consider scooby's restriction

at all

.

[DemonHybrid]

Hm.

Unvote, Vote: Vifam

I guess that's a good point. I still don't get the Oversoul claim but we'll see.

[DemonHybrid]

I've said like 5 times so far today that I don't care about who dies; Vifam or Morthas as long as Morthas dies today or tomorrow. If lynching Vifam is necessary to get rid of this third party, then I'm go.

You made a great point and I'm actually kind of curious if Vifam mixed something up with his claim, as that's the ONLY thing temting me to prevent getting rid of the WIFOM.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm also skeptical that the wincon-modder is more anti-town than anti-scum, since I know that my town wincon, at least, cannot change.

THOUGH I forgot about DH's "wincon mod stopper" ability. So that may imply that either DH is scum (I doubt it, given the Vifam situation, even though Duke is Mengsk-aligned), or the wincon-modder IS anti-town.

Fuck, now I'm confused. If you had told me Duke was Mengsk aligned a while ago I would have disregarded the flavor even harder.

I'm positive the wincon modder is anti-town and always have been.

[DemonHybrid]

Aye.

Man, I have a headache from this game.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm getting dangerously close to being as confused as I was during LMP's Mini Normal. That's critical levels we're talking about here.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm getting dangerously close to being as confused as I was during LMP's Mini Normal. That's critical levels we're talking about here.

EBWOP: Super Smash Bros Fan's Mini Normal, my bad.

[DemonHybrid]

Can we lynch DH to save thread space?

Shut up.

[DemonHybrid]

Iecerint, just hammer Vifam.

[DemonHybrid]

2 days, an empty slot. Everyone's fixated on lynching him anyway even though he's obvious town. Whatever.

[DemonHybrid]

Soooooo

is this happening or what? I thought you guys wanted your Vifam lynch.

[DemonHybrid]

....

Well?

[DemonHybrid]

Yeah yeah yeah, well the New Yorker in me wants you to hurry the fuck up.

[DemonHybrid]

vifam is so full of fluff on an iso read, and claimed a fucking overlord when everyone has character names
what more is there to think about?

Shut up.

Everyone gets it.

[DemonHybrid]

mod, please replace me

tired of playing with DemonHybrid

lol

[DemonHybrid]

THIS IS MY BAH POST

[DemonHybrid]

DELETED FOR STEALING THUNDER!!!!!

[DemonHybrid]

Why the fuck aren't these people dead yet?:

Morthas
rewq
ESPEONAGE

[DemonHybrid]

I'm a unrecruitable alarmist.

Why the fuck would I vengekill Shadow Dancer?

[DemonHybrid]

DELETED FOR STEALING THUNDER!!!!!

DAMN, THERE WAS A LITTLE THUNDER LEFT

[DemonHybrid]

BUT HERE

UNVOTE, VOTE: VIFAM

I'LL JOIN YOU FOR THE STUPID PARTY AND EAT DUMB CAKE AND DRINK DERP TEA

I don't CARE who it is

as long as Morthas DIES

And if Morthas does not die either today or tomorrow I am goinng to just jfiogwajfiwjaiofaiejgehevrguihdghihiulghdi

and you do NOT want me to oipafjpoasjfoisajfisaugdiuhiighiudgifghidfs.

I'm serious. Why did you guys even for once think I would vengekill Shadow Dancer and not Morthas?

That kind of made me upset.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm sure it was to survive. Her recruit was a delayed vig anyway.

[DemonHybrid]

Her meaning Kerrigan.

VIFAM IS MALE